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jrs93accord
10-03-2012, 16:47
Well guys, I have made a decision to thin out my collection and that includes the bulk of my 1911s. I know some of you are probably dropping your lower jaw about now. Sometimes we have to do what we need to do. I will still keep some things for posterity reasons. If there is anyone who is looking for something in particular, drop me an e-mail. Just so everyone knows, I am NOT giving anything away. Everything will be sold at a fair market value. Shipping cost will fall on the buyer. I would prefer not to have any tire kickers. If anyone is serious and needs pics of certain things, I will be more than happy to provide them. I look forward to hearing from a few of you soon.

James

Ruggles
10-03-2012, 17:06
I have thinned the heard a number of times, and damn if that heard does not end up growing again :) I hope it works out for you, nothing wrong with it IMO.

dakrat
10-03-2012, 17:36
sorry to hear that. I am a big 1911 fan but my guns that dont get shot get sold.

glock2740
10-03-2012, 18:49
Lots of people selling these days. I just re-bought my DW CCO back from Dave at DRC Firearms today that I had traded him awhile back. :cool: Been "trying" to sell my hardchromed Guncrafter Model 1 .50GI, but it is to help fund another gun and it's just a gun that doesn't ever get shot and see's life as a safe queen. I see ALOT of nice guns being sold these days. Are people struggling from the economy? Did people "over buy" during the 1911 bicentennial? What gives with all the selling lately? :dunno:

R0CKETMAN
10-03-2012, 18:56
Holy crap..we're about to see some nice ones for sale.

bac1023
10-03-2012, 19:20
Very sorry to hear, my friend

You know which one I want, James. ;)

bac1023
10-03-2012, 20:30
Lots of people selling these days. I just re-bought my DW CCO back from Dave at DRC Firearms today that I had traded him awhile back. :cool: Been "trying" to sell my hardchromed Guncrafter Model 1 .50GI, but it is to help fund another gun and it's just a gun that doesn't ever get shot and see's life as a safe queen. I see ALOT of nice guns being sold these days. Are people struggling from the economy? Did people "over buy" during the 1911 bicentennial? What gives with all the selling lately? :dunno:

Not sure Joe :dunno:

I haven't been buying 1911s, but I haven't sold any.

kirgi08
10-04-2012, 00:30
:faint:

prez1967
10-04-2012, 05:41
sorry to hear that man... everything happens for a reason.

So whats for sale?

Rinspeed
10-04-2012, 05:55
Sad to hear this James, better post a group picture before you start letting them go.

38 Super Fan
10-04-2012, 09:24
Sorry to hear you're gonna be parting with some James. Good luck, hope they find good homes.

38 Super Fan
10-04-2012, 09:44
Lots of people selling these days. I just re-bought my DW CCO back from Dave at DRC Firearms today that I had traded him awhile back. :cool: Been "trying" to sell my hardchromed Guncrafter Model 1 .50GI, but it is to help fund another gun and it's just a gun that doesn't ever get shot and see's life as a safe queen. I see ALOT of nice guns being sold these days. Are people struggling from the economy? Did people "over buy" during the 1911 bicentennial? What gives with all the selling lately? :dunno:
Probably tough economy in most cases, I know for me this is the first time in quite a while that I've been completely out of the market for any new guns. :sigh:I don't think I'll be selling anything, but this is the first time I've ever really considered it.

jrs93accord
10-04-2012, 17:56
Very sorry to hear, my friend

You know which one I want, James. ;)

Which one is that Brian?

bac1023
10-04-2012, 18:06
Which one is that Brian?

The one you probably won't sell.

The Shadow :supergrin:

jrs93accord
10-04-2012, 19:02
The one you probably won't sell.

The Shadow :supergrin:

I told someone earlier in a PM that I would have some reluctancy letting that one go. I have never seen another one. It is one of the most beautiful 1911A1s I have ever seen. The stainless finish is flawless. I could not even bring myself to shoot it for fear I may get a scratch on it. I told this other person that I would probably not let it go for less than $2K. I figure if I sell it at that price, great. If it does not sell, then I am meant to have ownership. If you are interested, drop me an e-mail. It is good to hear from you. It has been too long.

bac1023
10-04-2012, 19:23
I told someone earlier in a PM that I would have some reluctancy letting that one go. I have never seen another one. It is one of the most beautiful 1911A1s I have ever seen. The stainless finish is flawless. I could not even bring myself to shoot it for fear I may get a scratch on it. I told this other person that I would probably not let it go for less than $2K. I figure if I sell it at that price, great. If it does not sell, then I am meant to have ownership. If you are interested, drop me an e-mail. It is good to hear from you. It has been too long.

I'll give you a call at some point, James. :cool:

jrs93accord
10-04-2012, 19:33
I'll give you a call at some point, James. :cool:

Look forward to hearing from you. It will be nice to talk to you again after all this time.

bac1023
10-04-2012, 19:35
Look forward to hearing from you. It will be nice to talk to you again after all this time.

No doubt :wavey:

glock2740
10-04-2012, 19:43
Post a pic of the Shadow. I don't know what they are. :dunno: Sounds like a nice gun though.

bac1023
10-04-2012, 20:41
Post a pic of the Shadow. I don't know what they are. :dunno: Sounds like a nice gun though.

They were made in CA a while back for a short time.

You never see them for sale anywhere.

R0CKETMAN
10-05-2012, 03:56
Post a pic of the Shadow. I don't know what they are. :dunno: Sounds like a nice gun though.

http://forums.1911forum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=62261&d=1298861397

bac1023
10-05-2012, 05:04
I'm not seeing the pic :dunno:

Paul7
10-05-2012, 11:04
Not sure Joe :dunno:

I haven't been buying 1911s, but I haven't sold any.

Don't you already have them all?

:)

bac1023
10-05-2012, 15:22
Don't you already have them all?

:)

:rofl:

I wish! :supergrin:

Rinspeed
10-05-2012, 20:23
Don't you already have them all?

:)



Good point Paul.

glock2740
10-05-2012, 20:33
http://forums.1911forum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=62261&d=1298861397
No offense to anyone who owns/likes/wants one of these, but what the hell makes that thing a $2000 gun? :dunno:I would change almost every part out on that thing. Looks like a cheap base gun at best. What gives? Enlighten me.

bac1023
10-05-2012, 20:46
No offense to anyone who owns/likes/wants one of these, but what the hell makes that thing a $2000 gun? :dunno:I would change almost every part out on that thing. Looks like a cheap base gun at best. What gives? Enlighten me.

Joe, it's not a $2000 gun. They sell for much less, as in under a $1000. They are very rare, but not in demand.

That was just James saying he doesn't want to sell it to me. ;)

I don't blame him. I like rare guns myself and wouldn't want to sell it either.

I've never handled one, so I can't comment on build quality. They didn't sell for too much when they were new.

38 Super Fan
10-06-2012, 09:25
No offense to anyone who owns/likes/wants one of these, but what the hell makes that thing a $2000 gun? :dunno:I would change almost every part out on that thing. Looks like a cheap base gun at best. What gives? Enlighten me.
If it were hard chrome, you know you'd be all over it. :tongueout:

bac1023
10-06-2012, 10:15
If it were hard chrome, you know you'd be all over it. :tongueout:

:rofl:

jrs93accord
10-06-2012, 12:18
Post a pic of the Shadow. I don't know what they are. :dunno: Sounds like a nice gun though.

http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m8/jamesrea_2006/jamesrea2011A/002-13.jpg

http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m8/jamesrea_2006/jamesrea2011A/001-12.jpg

http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m8/jamesrea_2006/jamesrea2011A/004-10.jpg

http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m8/jamesrea_2006/jamesrea2011A/003-11.jpg

bac1023
10-06-2012, 12:43
That is a very nice looking 1911, James. :cool:

I've never seen one, as far as I remember.

R0CKETMAN
10-06-2012, 18:16
bbl came like that...cool

bac1023
10-06-2012, 20:12
bbl came like that...cool

That is cool, especially when you consider it was built before that sort of thing was popular.

glock2740
10-06-2012, 21:12
http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m8/jamesrea_2006/jamesrea2011A/002-13.jpg

http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m8/jamesrea_2006/jamesrea2011A/001-12.jpg

http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m8/jamesrea_2006/jamesrea2011A/004-10.jpg

http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m8/jamesrea_2006/jamesrea2011A/003-11.jpg

No offense meant at all, but what makes that a gun that's more than $400-500? :dunno: I'm usually up on my 1911's, but I have never heard of that one. Looking at the posts above, what makes that a "$2000 1911"? Looks like a $400-500 1911 at best to me. :dunno:Like I said, no offense meant, just don't see what the big deal is.

PlasticGuy
10-06-2012, 21:41
I'm sorry to year you're going through some hard times. Sometimes it's hard to put a positive spin on a situation, but try.

I am selling off about 60% of my collection also. I'm using it as starting inventory in a gunshop that I will open the doors on next week. I don't need to, but it will turn a nice store into an extraordinary store. It has been liberating. Having a core group of quality firearms, without the white noise to distract from them, actually feels pretty good.

bac1023
10-07-2012, 00:57
I am selling off about 60% of my collection also. I'm using it as starting inventory in a gunshop that I will open the doors on next week. I don't need to, but it will turn a nice store into an extraordinary store. It has been liberating. Having a core group of quality firearms, without the white noise to distract from them, actually feels pretty good.
That sounds cool, my friend.

Good luck with your store. :cool:

PlasticGuy
10-07-2012, 01:38
That sounds cool, my friend.

Good luck with your store. :cool:
Thank you! The adventure begins. :supergrin:

Again though, my point was that eliminating some earthly posessions can give a bit of inner peace. My home is a slightly more stress free environment with less stuff in it. I hope that's the case with the OP.

jrs93accord
10-07-2012, 01:47
No offense meant at all, but what makes that a gun that's more than $400-500? :dunno: I'm usually up on my 1911's, but I have never heard of that one. Looking at the posts above, what makes that a "$2000 1911"? Looks like a $400-500 1911 at best to me. :dunno:Like I said, no offense meant, just don't see what the big deal is.

Offense taken. Do not insult what you do not know and do not own.

ilgunguygt
10-07-2012, 02:09
Offense taken. Do not insult what you do not know and do not own.
It does not surprise me, usually when a guy has in sig line that he owns 10 glocks he isnt going to appreciate something like a 1911. Usually the statement is made "I could buy three glocks for the price of that!" :rofl:

bac1023
10-07-2012, 02:43
Thank you! The adventure begins. :supergrin:

Again though, my point was that eliminating some earthly posessions can give a bit of inner peace. My home is a slightly more stress free environment with less stuff in it. I hope that's the case with the OP.
That makes sense. I used to own several cars and motorcycles. Getting rid of them was difficult at first, but made me happy in the long run.

bac1023
10-07-2012, 02:52
Offense taken. Do not insult what you do not know and do not own.

James, I honestly would not sell the Shadow. Regardless what it's worth, its worth more than monetary value to you. Even if you decide to sell most or all of your others, keep that one. :)

I'm pretty much done buying 1911s for now. While its my favorite handgun platform, I realized that I was neglecting some of the most iconic handguns ever built. That's what I've been focused on of late. I have more than enough 1911s.

bac1023
10-07-2012, 03:00
It does not surprise me, usually when a guy has in sig line that he owns 10 glocks he isnt going to appreciate something like a 1911. Usually the statement is made "I could buy three glocks for the price of that!" :rofl:

All else aside, that statement is pretty funny considering Joe has one of the finest collections of 1911s I've ever seen. He probably has well over $50,000 wrapped up in some of the best high end 1911s ever built.

I hear what you're saying though. I see that attitude quite a bit over in General Glocking.

R0CKETMAN
10-07-2012, 04:41
what makes that a gun that's more than $400-500? :dunno: I'm usually up on my 1911's, but I have never heard of that one.

You answered your own question.



I am selling off about 60% of my collection also. I'm using it as starting inventory in a gunshop that I will open the doors on next week.

Proud of you...where?

glock2740
10-07-2012, 08:05
It does not surprise me, usually when a guy has in sig line that he owns 10 glocks he isnt going to appreciate something like a 1911. Usually the statement is made "I could buy three glocks for the price of that!" :rofl:
If you only knew... Obviously you haven't paid much attention in this sub forum have you? :upeyes:

bac1023
10-07-2012, 08:12
If you only knew... Obviously you haven't paid much attention in this sub forum have you? :upeyes:

Yeah, I guess he hasn't spent much time in here. :dunno:

glock2740
10-07-2012, 08:27
Offense taken. Do not insult what you do not know and do not own.
Sorry if you were offended James. I wasn't insulting anything.

MD357
10-07-2012, 08:31
It has been liberating. Having a core group of quality firearms, without the white noise to distract from them, actually feels pretty good.

Did this 3-4 years ago and I will have to agree, concentrated more on rifles and kept the handguns and especially 1911s I actually shoot.

ilgunguygt
10-07-2012, 10:33
All else aside, that statement is pretty funny considering Joe has one of the finest collections of 1911s I've ever seen. He probably has well over $50,000 wrapped up in some of the best high end 1911s ever built.

I hear what you're saying though. I see that attitude quite a bit over in General Glocking.
Its nothing towards him, its a generalization that we see on the board frequently.

I can see what he is saying that it appears to not be much special, but sometimes being uncommon is enough.

ilgunguygt
10-07-2012, 10:34
If you only knew... Obviously you haven't paid much attention in this sub forum have you? :upeyes:
I have spent plenty of time here, read above post.

glock2740
10-07-2012, 10:42
It does not surprise me, usually when a guy has in sig line that he owns 10 glocks he isnt going to appreciate something like a 1911. Usually the statement is made "I could buy three glocks for the price of that!" :rofl:
You were referring to me. Maybe you have spent plenty of time on here, but I guess you just haven't paid much attention. Saying that I don't "appreciate something like a 1911", makes you look pretty silly. As for my Glock sig line, it's a Glock forum. I also have 1911Addicts.com in my sig line too. Maybe you didn't catch that. I have my SA guns listed in my sig line on XD Talk. I guess that makes me a Glock hater. :upeyes:
I have spent plenty of time here, read above post.
You read above post.

bac1023
10-07-2012, 10:59
I can see what he is saying that it appears to not be much special, but sometimes being uncommon is enough.

If there is demand, yes. Rare means nothing from a value standpoint without demand.

I have some extremely rare handguns that aren't worth any more today than when they were built.

R0CKETMAN
10-07-2012, 11:33
It does not surprise me, usually when a guy has in sig line that he owns 10 glocks he isnt going to appreciate something like a 1911. Usually the statement is made "I could buy three glocks for the price of that!" :rofl:

Agreed....right on....bet he's never even held a 1911:supergrin:

faawrenchbndr
10-07-2012, 12:23
Enough of the bull**** smack talk,......go **** somewhere else!

machinegun74
10-07-2012, 12:23
Im thinking of selling my Pro Operator, just because I dont shoot it much.

Im at the point in my life where Im not a collector anymore. I think, dang thats a lot of reloading components sitting there I could be running through the stuff I do shoot.

Id hate to have to make those choices on a large collection of "not your run of the mill" factory stuff.

glock2740
10-07-2012, 12:23
You're right on Rocketman. :rofl:

brianfede
10-07-2012, 13:04
Offense taken. Do not insult what you do not know and do not own.


I don't think he was trying to insult you at all. I was actually interested in your answer on the worth of the firearm and why you thought it could fetch a certain price if you sold it. I have no idea if the gun is worth $500 or $5000. I am, probably like others on this forum, just trying to educate myself about different 1911's etc. and the only way to do that is to ask questions.

bac1023
10-07-2012, 13:38
I don't think he was trying to insult you at all. I was actually interested in your answer on the worth of the firearm and why you thought it could fetch a certain price if you sold it. I have no idea if the gun is worth $500 or $5000. I am, probably like others on this forum, just trying to educate myself about different 1911's etc. and the only way to do that is to ask questions.

I think what James is saying is that he doesn't want to sell it by mentioning that price.

I can't comment, because I never held one. Stainless autos of any kind built in the 1980's were notorious for galling and poor fitting. Stainless steel itself back then was not up to today's standards. By looking at the pics, I'd say its much better fitted than an AMT Hardballer and probably closer to a Randall, which were two stainless 1911s from the same time period.

There really is no good way to value that model, because they're so rare and don't come up for sale. Its basically worth what someone is willing to pay. Personally, I'd be willing to go up to $800 or maybe even $900 for it because I love stuff you don't see every day.

Do I think a 1980's stainless steel 1911 could be built as well as today's $900 1911s? Hell no, but I'd pay that just to have something off the beaten path since I'm a collector. If James ever decides to sell it, I'd make a nice home for it on the shelf with my other rare 1911s.

If someone is willing to go more than $900, more power to James. I hope he gets it.

jrs93accord
10-07-2012, 14:22
I don't think he was trying to insult you at all. I was actually interested in your answer on the worth of the firearm and why you thought it could fetch a certain price if you sold it. I have no idea if the gun is worth $500 or $5000. I am, probably like others on this forum, just trying to educate myself about different 1911's etc. and the only way to do that is to ask questions.

Brian is partly correct in assuming I do not want to sell the firearm in question. It is the most beautiful 1911 I have and have ever seen. It would be a shame to let it go. The price I mentioned was purely off the top of my head. There is nothing that sets the precedence for pricing a 1911 like this one. From my understanding from the person I bought it from, it was custom made back in the 80's for the gentleman he bought it from and the serial was specificly assigned to that gentleman. Another part of the story I was told by another person is that these guns were made to order by a man who did the work out of his workshop. That could explain why the market did not see many of these 1911s. Back then, milling a stainless steel 1911 was something very new. It would have also been a very expensive venture. The gunsmith would have had to be a Master Machinist, especially when it comes to machining a pistol this nice. I have not been able to sunstantiate anything on this pistol via the internet. I have thought about calling Dan Coonan to see if he remembers, saw, or heard anything about these back in the mid-80's.

bac1023
10-07-2012, 14:43
Brian is partly correct in assuming I do not want to sell the firearm in question. It is the most beautiful 1911 I have and have ever seen. It would be a shame to let it go. The price I mentioned was purely off the top of my head. There is nothing that sets the precedence for pricing a 1911 like this one. From my understanding from the person I bought it from, it was custom made back in the 80's for the gentleman he bought it from and the serial was specificly assigned to that gentleman. Another part of the story I was told by another person is that these guns were made to order by a man who did the work out of his workshop. That could explain why the market did not see many of these 1911s. Back then, milling a stainless steel 1911 was something very new. It would have also been a very expensive venture. The gunsmith would have had to be a Master Machinist, especially when it comes to machining a pistol this nice. I have not been able to sunstantiate anything on this pistol via the internet. I have thought about calling Dan Coonan to see if he remembers, saw, or heard anything about these back in the mid-80's.
It would be interesting to see if you could get more info on it, James.