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ERASER
10-07-2012, 10:11
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2213849/Matthew-Jakubowski-Hacker-cracks-4-million-hotel-locks-James-Bond-Dry-Erase-Marker.html

tarpleyg
10-07-2012, 10:28
My first inclination is to say, "Who cares." I always lock the bolt and the safety bar so no one is getting in while I'm in there anyway. The only concern I would have is with someone coming in while I was away and stealing stuff or staying in the room until I return.

Detectorist
10-07-2012, 11:07
That's amazing. On the other hand, I can open about 90% of private residence fron doors in about 5 seconds without anyone realizing it's been done.

BEER
10-07-2012, 12:15
locks are much like gun laws, they're only gonna work on honest people.

LSUAdman
10-08-2012, 11:08
locks are much like gun laws, they're only gonna work on honest people.


Quoted for truth.

I dont think most people understand how easy it is to get into a home/hotel/locked area, and when they find out it scares them.

I remember when I was in college, my wife had locked the door, accidentally, on our apartment when we went to water the flowers. I was ready to smash a window when she walks up to two guys in the parking lot and asks them if we can use their phone. She explains what happened, and one of the guys says "Oh, I can fix that."

He walks up to the door, pulls out a jim, pops the door open, smiles and walks away.

My mouth was just agape - not to how quick or easily that he did it, but that my wife just happened to find someone in our parking area what had a jim, and the knowledge of how to pop a door lock... :faint:

GWSHARK
10-08-2012, 13:20
My first inclination is to say, "Who cares." I always lock the bolt and the safety bar so no one is getting in while I'm in there anyway. The only concern I would have is with someone coming in while I was away and stealing stuff or staying in the room until I return.


Thats a HUGE concern though...

M&P15T
10-08-2012, 14:34
That's amazing. On the other hand, I can open about 90% of private residence fron doors in about 5 seconds without anyone realizing it's been done.

Excuse me...but, :rofl::rofl::rofl:

series1811
10-08-2012, 14:41
That's amazing. On the other hand, I can open about 90% of private residence fron doors in about 5 seconds without anyone realizing it's been done.

I used to pick locks for fun and even did it a few times on the job instead of busting doors down wihen we knew nobody was home.

It is easier than most people ever realize.

kiole
10-08-2012, 15:14
Excuse me...but, :rofl::rofl::rofl:

Search google for bump keys it's very easy to open most door locks without leaving any evidence.

Detectorist
10-08-2012, 15:48
Search google for bump keys it's very easy to open most door locks without leaving any evidence.

Shhhh..... my secret is out.

AK_Stick
10-08-2012, 15:52
Excuse me...but, :rofl::rofl::rofl:



If you don't have a bump-proof lock, he's likely to have a good shot at it.


Even if you do have good locks, there are still other ways in.

AK_Stick
10-08-2012, 15:53
I used to pick locks for fun and even did it a few times on the job instead of busting doors down wihen we knew nobody was home.

It is easier than most people ever realize.



I have the exact opposite issue.


My door locks are not pickable, so if i ever forget my key, or lose it, or lock it inside the house, I'm in for an expensive day.

Snaps
10-08-2012, 16:13
this kind of thing fascinates me.

janice6
10-08-2012, 16:45
I think it's funny how my neighbors work to lock and secure a patio door that is full glass.

If someone wants in they will get in.

frizz
10-08-2012, 16:50
I have the exact opposite issue.


My door locks are not pickable, so if i ever forget my key, or lose it, or lock it inside the house, I'm in for an expensive day.
No such thing as a 100% secure lock.

Gallium
10-08-2012, 16:58
No such thing as a 100% secure lock.


But he didn't say that.

Every single thing that is created to provide selective access can be breached by someone who is not authorized to be there.

The only things that cannot be breached are those things where there is absolutely NO ACCESS to all parties.

davew83
10-08-2012, 16:58
I have the exact opposite issue.


My door locks are not pickable, so if i ever forget my key, or lose it, or lock it inside the house, I'm in for an expensive day.

No such thing as a 100% secure lock.

http://www.catskillhouse.us/blog/wp-content/uploads/2006/11/paulthurst41_dewalt_DW304_reciprocating_saw.jpg

http://www.talisman.co.za/uploads/img/hilti_te60_combihammer_copy.jpg

Bet I can get in.


:supergrin:

4Rules
10-08-2012, 19:22
Deviant Ollam (https://www.youtube.com/user/DeviantOllam?feature=CCwQwRs%3D) will help open your eyes (if you are willing to see reality).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZK0MfE7o4HU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iMXj84x5Ovg

AK_Stick
10-08-2012, 20:16
No such thing as a 100% secure lock.



Its not 100% secure.


And I suppose its not 100% unpickable. If you had a bump key with the right initial grinds, on enough of the flats, you could trigger my locks.


However, that said, it would take so long, and be so impracticable to carry enough "bump key" blanks to find the right combination to turn my cylinders.


You'd have to be a pro, and not some street hood who's watched youtube, but a actual certified locksmith to pick my locks.


They're ridiculously expensive for a reason.



That said, there are still lots of ways in, bumping my locks, just isn't one of them.

RenoF250
10-08-2012, 22:10
I think it's funny how my neighbors work to lock and secure a patio door that is full glass.

If someone wants in they will get in.

Have you ever tried to break one of those? They are tough. I took a bunch out of my house and tried to break them. It is not that easy.

Kingarthurhk
10-08-2012, 22:15
Have you ever tried to break one of those? They are tough. I took a bunch out of my house and tried to break them. It is not that easy.

Especially if you cover them with burglar resistant film. Either way, I am not a patio door fan.

AK_Stick
10-08-2012, 22:50
http://www.catskillhouse.us/blog/wp-content/uploads/2006/11/paulthurst41_dewalt_DW304_reciprocating_saw.jpg

http://www.talisman.co.za/uploads/img/hilti_te60_combihammer_copy.jpg

Bet I can get in.


:supergrin:



Oh, you could get in, hell it would be markedly easier to just throw something through the livingroom window 2 feet to the left of the door, or just cut through the wall.

However, those both attract attention, my intention was simply to make the most common ways in, not so easy.

Deanster
10-08-2012, 23:24
I think this is a big deal. Hotel rooms weren't very secure before, but the notion that anyone with a little bit of easily concealed equipment can open a door without attracting attention in 1 second is... Disturbing.

The huge bummer is that the vulnerability isn't fixable without a total hardware swap...

southernshooter
10-09-2012, 05:37
Have you ever tried to break one of those? They are tough. I took a bunch out of my house and tried to break them. It is not that easy.

Tempered glass is pretty tough. Same as a door glass on a car. Will take a pretty good hit with wood, but with something that has no give, like a hammer it will "explode" Breaks into many small pieces. That is the safety factor of it. (42 yrs in the glass & plastics business)

rednoved
10-09-2012, 09:12
I have the exact opposite issue.


My door locks are not pickable, so if i ever forget my key, or lose it, or lock it inside the house, I'm in for an expensive day.


You could take a spare key. Put it in a sealed container. Then bury it. If that day ever comes you just have to unbury the key. It's a lot safer than leaving a "hide-a-key" somewhere. I doubt any theives are going to dig in random areas for a key. You might want a marker of some kind so you can remember where to dig. :cool:

fwm
10-09-2012, 10:31
I think it's funny how my neighbors work to lock and secure a patio door that is full glass.

If someone wants in they will get in.

My wife consistently does the same type of thing.
She'll locked the outer glass storm door, and leave the heavy wooden door unlocked.

She says if she hears glass breaking she'll run to the bedroom and get her shotgun, but I keep telling her she'll be to startled to react fast enough. Then she just says, "but you've got your two on you don't you?"

Deanster
10-09-2012, 12:38
Again, nobody thinks that locks are 100% secure in general, and anyone who thinks that hotel rooms are particularly secure is fooling themselves.

However, I'm not especially fond of the notion that ALL 2 million hotel rooms using this lock are WIDE OPEN to anyone with a little bit of hardware at any time.

I assume that right this minute a variety of criminal enterprises are building hotel-door-room-openers in dry erase markers and a wide variety of other everyday objects, and using/selling them. If not, I think I just found a new business model. ;)

Angry Fist
10-09-2012, 12:52
http://www.buybumpkey.com/20-Key-Residential-Bump-Key-Set_p_11.html

Clutch Cargo
10-10-2012, 08:32
Ever stop to think why hotels not in casino towns have safes in the room?

droidfire
10-11-2012, 08:42
Ever stop to think why hotels not in casino towns have safes in the room?

If you use the hotel room safe, you are a much more accomplished fool then one who would confuse a private room in a public space - to which they have one of an unknown number of keys for - with a secure location.

Anyone who is surprised by how easily door locks are bypassed should maybe look into the same for the hotel room safe.

Clutch Cargo
10-11-2012, 12:36
If you use the hotel room safe, you are a much more accomplished fool then one who would confuse a private room in a public space - to which they have one of an unknown number of keys for - with a secure location.

Anyone who is surprised by how easily door locks are bypassed should maybe look into the same for the hotel room safe.

I've never used one with a key. They have electronic programmable locks. You set your own code. That's not to say they don't have a "master" code. When in doubt, have valuables locked in the safe at the front desk. Then again, a buddy that traveled to Peru had his passport stolen when terrorists stole the hotel safe.:wow: