Garage/Shop Projected started Here are some Pic's

[BLACK Z]

Well I got the Foundation in, I have water and Conduit for elec run from house underground to Shop, Radiant Heat is in 4 200 FT Loops. Hopefully framing will start this week, Shop will be 28 X 28 with 10 Ft ceilings on the first floor and 8 ft ceilings on the second floor. Back of shop is about 4 Foot under ground with sides sloping down to 2 Foot toward the front.

SOme pic's show snow fence $200.00 worth to try and keep chickens out so there not eatting seed and some show where I had to dump all the dirt that cam out, I used it to raise a spot in the back where I plan to put a pole barn.

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[BLACK Z]

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[BLACK Z]

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[Hef]

Cool. What are you going to waterproof the foundation walls with? Are you going to use fiberglass batt insulation or spray foam?

[BLACK Z]

I am unsure yet, I am going to tar the outside and Prob use fiberglass for insulation. I love spray foam and used it in parts of my house But not sure if I want to spend that kinda money.

[Hef]

I am unsure yet, I am going to tar the outside and Prob use fiberglass for insulation. I love spray foam and used it in parts of my house But not sure if I want to spend that kinda money.

If you're going fiberglass, use spray foam around windows and doors, and at any wall penetrations. You should also use it between the concrete and framing as that is a common heat leakage point.

[BLACK Z]

I am going to use OSB on the inside walls, and ceiling, I got all of the lumber from the local saw mill for framing and siding, and I am putting on a Metal roof Grambel style, its going to have a barn feel to it. I am not doing regular garage doors, I am going to do 2 8 ft Sliders.

[Eurodriver]

Why are your trees orange?

Omg, I'd get that checked out before I worried about a garage!! Do you have a well for drinking water? I'd stop using it immediately.

[BLACK Z]

Eurodriver what are you talking about, The leaves are changing it is fall here.

[Eurodriver]

Eurodriver what are you talking about, The leaves are changing it is fall here.

What's falling?

[BLACK Z]

Spring summer fall winter, Never mind.

[davew83]

Why are your trees orange?

Omg, I'd get that checked out before I worried about a garage!! Do you have a well for drinking water? I'd stop using it immediately.

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[BLACK Z]

Dave Thanks because I am confused also, or maybe it has something to do with my water and orange trees.

[Wyoming]

Tagged. I like DIY projects and want to follow your progress.

Keep the pictures coming.

[BLACK Z]

It may be a week or so between picture posting, I should have the trusses this week, I hope to start framing by mid week, I know most of my framing lumber is cut already just have to get it from the saw mill.

[davew83]

No floor drains?

[BLACK Z]

Yes there is I only put on in the center, I have some also though the walls for sinks and what not.

[Jumper]

Looks real nice so far! Did you insulate under your slab? I couldnt tell from the pics. I installed radiant heat in my basement floor and I really like it. What are you going to use for the heat source?

[davew83]

Ahh ok I didn't see it.

[BLACK Z]

Yes I used the 2 Inch board insulation and the insultarp. I am unsure what I plan to use as far as the heat source, I am thinking just a LP 50 Water heater, I am not going to hook heat up til next fall, to much else going on.

[KalashniKEV]

Looks awesome... I'd like to do the same someday when I move out into the country.

One guy I know had a nice epoxy floor and a lofted man cave in his. It was pretty sweet!

[Gallium]

I would like to go on record as being completely jealous, and available for adoption. :)

[BLACK Z]

Epoxy Floor is something i would like to do.

[davew83]

I would go with a small LP tankless water heater. Also I would run 3 gauge wire for 100 amp service.

[Hef]

Yes I used the 2 Inch board insulation and the insultarp. I am unsure what I plan to use as far as the heat source, I am thinking just a LP 50 Water heater, I am not going to hook heat up til next fall, to much else going on.

A gas-fired instant hot water heater would probably save you money in the long run.

[Hef]

I would go with a small LP tankless water heater. Also I would run 3 gauge wire for 100 amp service.

Stop reading my mind. You're freaking me out.

[davew83]

Stop reading my mind. You're freaking me out.

run black pipe around the walls for an air compressor also

[selogic]

3 gauge wire ?

[davew83]

3 gauge wire ?

Yes 3 gauge THHN/THW-2 that will support 100 amp service.

[NeverMore1701]

Why are your trees orange?

Omg, I'd get that checked out before I worried about a garage!! Do you have a well for drinking water? I'd stop using it immediately.

Only water I'd be worried about drinking is what you've been having.

[Diesel McBadass]

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hes actually both

[Gallium]

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He is seriously stupid.

[BLACK Z]

I do plan to run air pipe around, Ill get what ever wire is code. I have a tankless water heater 199,000 BTU in my house and love it, I heard that there not teh best for radiant though.

[Jumper]

I use a 199,000 BTU tankless to run my 1600ft^2 basement floor and my domestic hot water. Its been in use for about 5 years and works very well. Originally I used a 50gal power vented water heater to heat just my floor and it barely worked at all. If you think about it, the tubes in my floor hold about 5 gallons of water. With the tankless, it gets up to temp fairly quickly. With the power vent water heater, I had to heat 10times as much water when I needed heat. It was bad.

[BLACK Z]

Jumper it makes sense and that is what I was going to use, Prob not a 199,000 for the radiant but a tankless unit, but a lot of the research i have done say's not to use them. I guess thee is a prob with a closed system because the tankless is looking for cold water and the water that comes back is still warm or hot.

[M&P15T]

Well I got the Foundation in, I have water and Conduit for elec run from house underground to Shop, Radiant Heat is in 4 200 FT Loops. Hopefully framing will start this week, Shop will be 28 X 28 with 10 Ft ceilings on the first floor and 8 ft ceilings on the second floor. Back of shop is about 4 Foot under ground with sides sloping down to 2 Foot toward the front.

SOme pic's show snow fence $200.00 worth to try and keep chickens out so there not eatting seed and some show where I had to dump all the dirt that cam out, I used it to raise a spot in the back where I plan to put a pole barn.

That is clearly going to be an awesome "man cave" and work space, good for you, I'm totally jealous. You clearly have a well thought out plan for garage nirvana.

However......

You seriously need to get some help on your spelling/punctuation/grammar, that hurt like hell to read.:supergrin:

[BLACK Z]

I know that is what happens when you have kids running around and GF saying hurry up dinner is ready and the computer is acting up.

[davew83]

I do plan to run air pipe around, Ill get what ever wire is code. I have a tankless water heater 199,000 BTU in my house and love it, I heard that there not teh best for radiant though.

3 gauge is code for 100 amp service.

Also don't used PVC for air lines.

[BLACK Z]

Ill run Black Pipe ( Steel ) for the air lines, Not sure what size, any ideas for that? I know I need to run 4 Wire from house to shop, and I guess it'll be 3 Ga if that is what is code for NY.

[scccdoc]

Beautiful country!

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Dude, build enough window and you'll have a climate controlled gun range!!!!!!!!! DOC

[davew83]

Ill run Black Pipe ( Steel ) for the air lines, Not sure what size, any ideas for that? I know I need to run 4 Wire from house to shop, and I guess it'll be 3 Ga if that is what is code for NY.

1/2 or 3/4. Only difference will be how much air the system will hold. If you will be doing a lot of work with an impact gun or a paint sprayer get the 3/4, work is th same just material costs difference

Code is 4 wires, 2 hot, 1 neutral, and 1 insulated ground. If you are wring it yourself make sure you main box has a ground bar in it sometimes they don't and you have to buy me separately and out one in. Also if you used GFCI outlets one GFCI outlet can handle 5 more outlets/circuits down the line for 6 total per breaker.

[BLACK Z]

I am not much into elec, I know there is no real code here for a garage, You have to have one outlet and a light outside the door. and of course the proper wire.

[davew83]

15 amp for 14 romex, 2amp for 12, 30amp for 10.

[selogic]

Loking at the ampacity charts , 3ga. wire is iffy for a 100 amp service . Why not use #2 ? It's more than adequate and a lot more common . Hell , in this part of the country , 3 ga. would be a special order item . Nobody stocks it .

[AK_Stick]

Nice looking shop.


My house came with a 30x32 shop, with 30 ft ceiling.

For the most part, pretty nice, But I'd suggest sitting down, and figuring out EXACTLY what you want, before you make any permanant decisions (doors, bays etc)


And plum in plenty of extra power outlets. Best thing about my shop is I have a 2 110 outlets, and 1 240 outlet, every 6-10 feet. So I can power anything, from just about anywhere.

[davew83]

Loking at the ampacity charts , 3ga. wire is iffy for a 100 amp service . Why not use #2 ? It's more than adequate and a lot more common . Hell , in this part of the country , 3 ga. would be a special order item . Nobody stocks it .

Per my charts and master electrician sub contractor not even close to iffy. 3 gauge CU is code for 90 degree THHN. Now if it is a special order item then I can see using 2 but other than that no need to.

[BLACK Z]

I am trying for a barn look, that is why I am going with a barn door in the front, The opening is going to be 16 Ft when done, I am unsure if I should go with 2 10 tall by 8 wide swing out or if I should with two 8 Ft sliders.

I am going to run plenty of outlets, and lighting.

[Rabid Rabbit]

Here are a couple things I will change on my next garage. 2 story 24x24 garage
Recessed lighting lumber still gets close to the lights even with a 11.5 ft. ceiling
another 1 or two 240 volt outlets
outside hook up for a generator for power outages, I use have to run a cable through a window to the 240 outlet to power my house.
surface mount for electrical
run the electrical high on the walls for the horizontal runs
lights everywhere
network and phone wiring


I used engineered lumber for the beam and floor joists, so I don't have any support posts in the middle of the floor.

[BLACK Z]

With the trusses I am getting I don't believe Ill Have to have any post down the middle also, I ordered them a little stronger then I needed.

[Angry Fist]

Looks good, Z. :thumbsup:

[ROGER4314]

I can see it now....

A nice reloading bench, drill press, mill, lathe, sandblaster, nice compressor setup all with good lighting, A/C and heat and a sign: "No women allowed!"

Flash

[Obi Wan]

Beautiful location! Congrats!

I am unsure yet, I am going to tar the outside and Prob use fiberglass for insulation. I love spray foam and used it in parts of my house But not sure if I want to spend that kinda money.
If I many make a couple of suggestions, in case you haven't already got them covered...

On the exterior, underground walls, I'd go with asphalt and two layers of roofing tar paper, asphalted before, in between, and then a final layer... with 2" fiberglass board for insulation and drainage. Backfill with 3/4" or larger crushed stone.

I'd also recommend two 'French drain tiles' -

http://www.basementsystems.com/basement-waterproofing/french-drain/exterior-french-drain.html

- so that if one gets crushed you don't have to dig anything up.

If it's not in your plans, I'd add a true 50 amp welding circuit. My electrician failed to calculate the power loss and my 30 amp circuit turned into a 16 amp one.

Good luck and have fun!

[BLACK Z]

I have a perimeter drain around the foundation, I tarred and put 2 inch insulation around the foundation. I do plan to have one or two outlets for A welder.

[selogic]

Per my charts and master electrician sub contractor not even close to iffy. 3 gauge CU is code for 90 degree THHN. Now if it is a special order item then I can see using 2 but other than that no need to. I beg to differ , sir . The best I can find is 110 amps , and thats 3 conductors in conduit . 4 conductors in conduit underground ? How far from the transformer ? Not arguing. Just a few things to think about . :cool:

[davew83]

I beg to differ , sir . The best I can find is 110 amps , and thats 3 conductors in conduit . 4 conductors in conduit underground ? How far from the transformer ? Not arguing. Just a few things to think about . :cool:

110 amps is more than 100 amps. Like I said 3 gauge is code for 100 amp service. No need to use 2 gauge for 100 amp service unless you just like to waste money. Codes are codes for a reason. Also unless You will be running a welder or a massive compressor or some other sustained high amp load 100 amp service is more than enough.

[BLACK Z]

It'll be about a 110 Foot run maybe 120 Ft.

[BLACK Z]

Here is where I am at so far, There are some pictures Of the grass being fixed from the traffic, some pic's of the white windows being painted brown, Since it was about a $100.00 each extra to order them in brown, and where the framing is at.

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[Hef]

Looks great.

[BLACK Z]

I have decided on a Garage door which was ordered today, instead of going with the barn style sliding doors,

All of the framing and the bracing is out of 2x6 Lumber all from my buddies saw mill ( it is stamped and graded lumber )

Both sides of the trusses will have storage, Ill have four doors to enter one in each corner.

Still unsure what to do for heat up stairs, any ideas? I was thinking elec base board or some type of hanging heater.

Also not sure what to do on the outside after the wood has dried, Paint or stain or leave it natural?


Would teh radiant from down stairs hat second floor?

Could I hook up hot water baseboard to the second floor?

Would the hot water heater that Ill prob use for the radiant be ot enough for the base board on the second floor?

[BLACK Z]

For some reason some of the Pic's are no longer in the post so Ill re post some, At the end there will be new pic's.

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[BLACK Z]

I got the 3/4 Tongue and Groove floor on the upstairs done today, Still need to do the sofits and the wood trim on the outside and get the gable trim and the ridge cap on to finish the roof off. It's coming together.

[BLACK Z]

Here are some Updated pic's, It's coming along, and also some shots of the view.

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[Rinspeed]

Great job my friend.

[.264 magnum]

Awesomeness.

ETA - your Rottweilers are doubtlessly thinking, "our owner is the bomb building this giant dog house for us".

[RedTop]

Very Nice!

[BLACK Z]

Yeah I let them out they go straight over there, pee on the rock wall and then lay on the wood pile. I hope to have it done soon.

[Unlocked]

:thumbsup:

[ryanm]

I would love to have that. Great job so far.

[BLACK Z]

Got the windows in, door upstairs framed out and saddle in, I also added a Brace at the peak to reinforce it for the Antique Block and Tackle BARN PULLEY system that I got that still is in working shape.

Sofits are also in on the front and I started to put the outlet boxes in.


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[geofri]

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[BLACK Z]

Geofri I don't get it.

[geofri]

Geofri I don't get it.
http://youtu.be/0mfSfekiZeE


One of my favorite movie lines.

The garage/shop looks awesome. I'd seriously consider building a bedroom loft and living in a place like that.

[BLACK Z]

Gotcha, I have watched that movie a few times, Just didn't put it together. Thanks for the words, I am trying I am making it a hang out up stairs, bar, tv and what nut.

[di11igaf]

Per my charts and master electrician sub contractor not even close to iffy. 3 gauge CU is code for 90 degree THHN. Now if it is a special order item then I can see using 2 but other than that no need to.

Can't go by 90 degree column, have to size by term. lugs, which almost all are 75 degree. You can only use 90 degree column before derating, since this is a single phase feeder with not more than 3 current carrying conductors, derating is not necessary.
I'm pretty sure #2 is 115a @ 75 degree and #3 copper is 100, but I don't have the book in front of me.
Also OP, this will be a sub panel, so all grounds and neutrals have to be seperate, and do not install the bonding screw that may come with the panel. So you'll need a ground bar and a neutral bar.

[BLACK Z]

Elec part confuses me, The ground bar and neutral bar should be inside the 100 amp sub panel?

[di11igaf]

Elec part confuses me, The ground bar and neutral bar should be inside the 100 amp sub panel?

Yes, you'll have your feeds which I'm guessing you'll pull off your main service panel from your house. I believe you said you already ran a conduit, so depending on what size you ran you may have limited yourself as to what size sub panel your going to install. If you ran at least an 1-1/4, you can do a 100amp sub-panel. Basically you'll need 3- #3 copper thwn conductors and 1 #8 green ground. Put a 100a 2-pole breaker in the house service panel(this protects the wires going to sub-panel) and feed the main breaker in the 100a sub. You could do a main lug panel without a main, but you'll be screwing yourself as there's many more restrictions, so just get a panel with a main breaker. #3 is an oddball size, so you may have to upsize the wire to #2, but you may find 3 stocked.
You'll also need a ground rod since its detached, so drive a ground rod and run a bare #6 from the rod to the ground bar in the sub panel. Your #8 ground from the house panel will land on the sub panel ground bar, one of the #3s will be neutral, landed on the neutral bar, other 2 are hots.
Keep all grounds from the garage wiring on the ground bar, all neutrals on the neutral bar(even though they're together in the main service, they can only be bonded once, which is why you must keep them separate at the sub panel)
This is NEC minimum all local jurisdictions have their own electrical requirements, so your area could possibly need something different.
BTW - really nice garage.

[Monte4283]

That is looking awesome. As other I'am totally jealous.

[jame]

Very, very nice. I'm envious of your abilities.

[gruntmedik]

Man, that is looking great!

[riddler]

From someone who built his own shed,...... Impressive!

[G23Gen4TX]

Love it. Did you fix the orange trees?

[BLACK Z]

The orange trees? I had to take down some Plum trees, and I was able to save a Apple I think well see in the spring.

So I will need a ground rod. That sucks unless I buy a bunch of wire it'll be in the front and may stand out unless I can hide it some how.

1 or 2 rods? I know at my house I have 2. How far from the building?

[BLACK Z]

Got the Garage door in just need to finish the trim and weather stripping on the out side, Got some more Battens up and started to get the door for the up stairs built, figured I d also show a little detail of the Support for the pulley system that is going off the front.

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[BLACK Z]

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[BLACK Z]

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[dango]

Wow , that is beautiful ! The mistake I made is the roofing . I wish I didn't use shingles , I like your roof much better.
Ground rod , no biggie it got a patina and I don't even see it.

Heating , I got radiant floor , three speed pump , wood with propane back-up. It's 78' x 38' and it takes about two days to heat the floor but when it does , what can I say , Beautiful job.

My hats off to you and what can I say that you don't already know......? :wavey:

[BLACK Z]

I picked up 2 5/8 by 8 ft Ground Rods, and Plenty of #6 Wire I am going to try and run it out the back or on the side toward the back, I ll be able to hide it pretty well. Elec code is not my strong point. Thanks for the nice words.

[BLACK Z]

Here is the front pretty much done except for the Top door, The Picture of the two small 2x4 is the support for the dowel that goes into the building that holds the rope. The weather stripping for the garage door is behind the door trim used a Dado blade to cut the grooves.

The Pictures from the field show the 300 Plus foot Ditch that I put in last year you keep the water from coming off the hill to fast or to much, it keeps it off the main yard for the house, the itch is 6 foot deep at it's deepest and is filled with ditch stone, it empties to a stream on both ends, the dirt that came out of the ditch went ont eh downhill side to act as a back stop.


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[BLACK Z]

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[BLACK Z]

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[BLACK Z]

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[BLACK Z]

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[GRD67]

Great shop Blackz, I'm just curious, how old is the block and tackle?

[BLACK Z]

Honestly I don't know, if I had to guess it is over 50 years old. it is in nice shape and still works.

[BLACK Z]

Not much to update on, Been a little slow with Holidays and the weather. I am hoping to get the wiring started soon. This is whee I am at now, Got the perlins in on the back and the Tyvek up and some of the boards.

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[RedTop]

You really know how to make a me jealous, don't you?:supergrin:

Thanks for sharing!

[BLACK Z]

No Problem, I just want it done.

[BLACK Z]

OK, so work has begun again, Not much has been done over the last month, The service is hooked up and some of the wiring down stairs has been run. The windows are in also, Hope to get the doors done tom.

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[BLACK Z]

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[Road Dog]

Very nice!

[RedTop]

Looking good! Thanks for the updates.

[geofri]

Keep the pics coming!

[BLACK Z]

I will, I was hoping to have more pic's to post but with the hoildays and everything not much has been going on.
Still have sides and rear soffits and vents, , fascia boards sides and rear, Gable trim on rear and battons on sides and rear to do, inside have railing for stairs door for top of stairs and flooring to put down in storage areas on each side upstairs. Plus more wiring and then after all of that is done, time for insulation and osb for the walls.

[BLACK Z]

Here is a Update, Hopefully the build will get back on track, Had a few other projects to tend to.


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[BLACK Z]

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[briarpatch]

Fantastic. Great job.
Is the ground level behind the shop below the seal plate? Would a gully washer force water in at that level?
Again, just a super good job.

[gruntmedik]

That is all kinds of awesome.

[BLACK Z]

The sill is above the ground , but only by about 4 Inches, I may trench it out if I end up having a problem.

[BLACK Z]

I know it has been a while but other Projects have come up, This is where I was at as of this morning, I did get some more of the upstairs done after these were taken. Building passed inspection and so did the Elec.


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[bobby_w]

I really like the lighting fixtures over the garage door. Nice detail. :thumbsup:

2 fixtures give it a good visual balance with the windows above them and should throw some good light.

[BLACK Z]

Thank you, I plan to finish the upstairs off, My Buddy who owns the Saw mill where I got all of my wood from, Makes finished Tongue and Groove and other types of wood for finishing, or I may go rough for the cabin feel.

I used SER into the House and URD from Shop to a J Box under porch where it meets the SER. I Have a 100 Amp service, all of the circuits are 20 Amp except for the 220 for the Welders and Compressor. I'll Take a Pic of inside the box next time I open it, It came out real nice.

DOwnstairs I have 2 dual 4 Ft lights above the Bench on there own switch, I then have 8, 8 Ft quad Lights spaced evenly though out the shop downstairs, I have them on 4 switches so there are two per switch and I have them in squares so I can light up certain areas. This shop lights up very well. Upstairs I have two lights in the storage areas, 1 in the hallway and I also have three ceiling fans with lights down the center.
Outside I have a motion flood light and two Barn style lights above garage door and one above main door.

[M&P15T]

Beyond beautiful.

Now you need a huge, concrete driveway, and a really fast/beautiful car.

[BLACK Z]

I have a Old Fast restored Z 28 Camaro in my other barn, Plus Quads Snowmobiles Motorcycles and all of that other stuff. No need for a Concrete D Way, I live on a farm adn want to keep it old fashion, The Dway is Crusher run smooth and pretty dust free.

[Adjuster]

That hay/dutch door is scary. I know I would fall out of that dang thing. Shop/garage/barn looks great!



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[BLACK Z]

I have a Padlock on the bottom part to keep kids from opening, When the adult beverages start to flows I'll keep it all locked.

[M&P15T]

That hay/dutch door is scary. I know I would fall out of that dang thing. Shop/garage/barn looks great!/

Beer starts flowing, friends are over, someone goes up stairs....foot steps heard going towards the door.

Then, through the vista of the open lower carriage door we see the friend hit the ground HARD.

Yeah, I'd add a little porch or something. Probably be a nice view too.

[Cubdriver]

I like the 'barn lights' over the doors. Where did you find those? I've been looking for something like that.

-Pat

[BLACK Z]

I have thought about adding a Little second story porch, that maybe be in near future.

I think they came from Barn Lighting or Barn Lights.com. Not the cheapest things but well made.