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chilnbloc
10-08-2012, 17:10
I am torn between the gen 4 and gen 3. I have read a lot of both positive and negative. As a first time gun buyer its hard for me to make this decision on my own. Any of you have an input? is the RSA and back straps worth the extra money? I am forced to buy because I am getting a job as a correctional deputy and need a duty weapon.

Any input would be helpful thanks!!

dakota359
10-08-2012, 17:15
Go with the Gen 4 the grip texture alone is worth it.

jbglock
10-08-2012, 17:23
1. They won't provide you a duty weapon?
2. The following is my opinion of the two. Others will vary. Either would suite me for duty use but I do have a preference.

I hate RTF of gen4. In an open duty holster being occasionally banged against a wall, door frame, ect. those little dots do get easily damaged. The same kind of use I never saw the kind of finish damage to the gen3. Also I don't understand who exactly had a hard time holding on to their gen3 guns in the past. I've held and shot mine with cold and soaking wet hands and no problem. RTF is one of those solutions to a problem that doesn't exist type things.

Concerning the new RSA, I can't tell a difference in recoil over the previous gen3.

Concerning interchangeable backstraps, I didn't have a problem with the grip circumference of gen3 so that is not an issue either. If you are small handed then the grips might be worth it on the gen4 for you.

chilnbloc
10-08-2012, 17:24
Do you happen to know the price difference? I cant find a definite answer I have been seeing about $50-100

chilnbloc
10-08-2012, 17:27
No unfortunately they wont provide that due to budgeting. Its one of those subjects that is a sore one through out the agency. Thanks for your input. I have heard that the recoil is almost the same as it was in the gen 3 and at most it is a 10% decrease.

mad220860
10-08-2012, 17:31
Go with the gen 3! Its proven,i am actually picking up my glock 22 gen 3 tomorrow with the flat dark earth frame and picked it up for 480.00 out the door new in the box with 4 mags! Not to mention all the after market products available. In my opinion the gen 3 have been he most reliable glock ever made

jbglock
10-08-2012, 17:37
Do you happen to know the price difference? I cant find a definite answer I have been seeing about $50-100

Around here a gen3 is generally $50 to 75 cheaper. I'm not sure if this is your first duty and if you have a credential yet or not. Most places where I am give a very nice discount to an active leo, especially if they are local to them.

chilnbloc
10-08-2012, 18:12
This is my first duty weapon and I have not gotten my credentials yet. Im hoping to get them by the end of the week though. I like to plan in advance lol.

jph02
10-08-2012, 18:56
I've not handled the gen 3, so can't really compare. I own the gen 4 and have been very happy with it. It has been a solid performer for me. My LGS offers an LEO discount and I paid the same price for gen 4 as I would have for gen 3.

MrVvrroomm
10-08-2012, 19:08
Gen4 22

Bigpoppie50
10-08-2012, 19:11
Either one is probably gonna be good to go as long as the fit is good. I purchased a Gen4 Glock22 two years ago and it has been good to go even before upgrading to the latest Recoil Spring Assembly which was free from Glock Inc.

bac1023
10-08-2012, 19:19
For 40S&W, I don't think it matters much. Most of the Gen 4 problems were 9mm.

weare138
10-08-2012, 19:41
we transitioned over to the gen4s this spring from gen2 G22s. I like the grip. and the mag release. Plus I shoot alot better with the gen4.

Check with your agency and see what you are allowed to carry before you buy.

chilnbloc
10-08-2012, 20:06
Thanks for the input. I think I am going to like the gen 4 better because of the MBS and the larger mag release. But I wont be able to tell until I actually hold them both. I have looked at the guns I am able to carry and most of the other CO's carry G22s.

chilnbloc
10-08-2012, 20:07
Gen4 22

Can you elaborate why you would choose the gen 4? I see that you are a armorer and would assume you know what your talking about.

TheExplorer
10-08-2012, 20:11
I still prefer the G3 grip.

chilnbloc
10-08-2012, 20:24
I just got off the phone with the shop I am probably going to buy my gun from and they said that the Glock company has actually closed for 9 months due to issues with the gen 4.. anyway this can be true? or should I look for a different shop? Would you suggest night sites? what do those usually run for?

Yankee2718
10-08-2012, 22:42
Just buy a Gen 3 or Gen 2 and have some steel sights installed. Night sights are nice, but if you're in low light you will use your flash light and it will drown out the tritium. If you can, buy a police trade in. The round count is normally low, and police trade ins are normally solid function wise. Before people freak about buying a used gun for duty use, I was issued a used gun when I became an LEO. I haven't had any issues with my G22 Gen 3 other than some X200 induced malfunctions (another worthless tacticool mandated accessory)

As a corrections deputy your duty gun will spend more time in a locker than in your holster. No guns in the jail.

Summit has some Glock 22 trade ins for $350. HERE (http://summitgunbroker.com/New_Listings_8.html) If you are allowed to, buy a Glock 17. 9mm is half the cost of .40 to train with and a good +P 124 JHP will ruin some SOB perps day.

chilnbloc
10-08-2012, 22:52
Thanks for the advice Yankee. I am leaning more towards the gen 3 just because I dont want a lot of problems with this gun since it is going to be my first one. Glock is probably going to come out with something else in a couple years anyways.

Yankee2718
10-08-2012, 23:10
Thanks for the advice Yankee. I am leaning more towards the gen 3 just because I dont want a lot of problems with this gun since it is going to be my first one. Glock is probably going to come out with something else in a couple years anyways.

You're welcome. If you can buy new from a dealer that will give you LEO pricing (399.99) just buy new. If they won't and they want to charge you $499-549 walk out and order from Summit. Even with the extra $60 for shipping and paperwork you're $100 under a new one. The end result is the same. A damn fine fighting pistol. Use the other $100 for your holster if they don't provide one. http://www.safariland.com/DutyGear/product.aspx?pid=6360 The ALS is really a level II design even though it is marketed as a level III. It's a solid holster and can be had for less than $100 in STX finish.

avenues165
10-09-2012, 00:06
I struggled with the same decision when I bought my G23. I chose the Gen 4 because the slightly smaller grip is a better fit for me. I also really like the grip texture of the Gen 4, but in all fairness I can see why some may not like it. It is rough.

My Gen 4 G23 has been flawless. However, the round count on it is very low, less than 1,000 rounds. It flings brass into the next zip code if using properly loaded ammo. Mild ammo still ejects well, it just doesn't fly as far. My RSA is the 0-3, which is pre-replacement.

I say go with the Gen 4 if your hands are smaller like mine or so large that the Gen 3 grip is too small. If not, either will work well.

chilnbloc
10-09-2012, 22:16
I have fairly large hands. I think I am just going to go to a gun shop here in town that has both and try them out. I still have a little time to decide but its hard because 1 day Im getting the gen 3 then the next its the gen 4.

TxGlock9
10-09-2012, 22:24
You really can't go wrong either way. I wouldn't let a measly $50 determine which pistol you get. I owned a Gen4 22 and was a superb shooter.

Edit: BTW. I even shot it with the 31 barrel and wow felt great. Ejections are strong with either caliber and you won't or at least shouldn't find problems with BTF like some of the 9mm's do. Even then that doesn't bother me. my Gen4 19 sometimes spits brass at my forehead with strong loads, but I never had a failure of any kind. Good luck with your purchase.

chilnbloc
10-09-2012, 22:29
Thanks for the input. If it is a measly $50 dollar difference or so i think i will end up with the gen 4 and deal with any issues IF they arise. Although I havent been able to find any with the 22.

wingspar
10-09-2012, 22:34
I just went thru this Gen 3 vs Gen 4 thing, and after holding both, I decided the texture of the grip in the Gen 4 was too rough for my hands. If it bothered me in the store, itís sure going to be uncomfortable shooting it, so I went with another Gen 3. If you can handle both, do so. The texture of the grip is a very personal thing. Some love it, some hate it. No one but you can know what works for you. As far as reliability, either will work.

Here at the LGS, the difference in price between the Gen 3 and Gen 4 was $40.

dakrat
10-09-2012, 23:12
I used to hate the .40 S&W until I fired my Gen 4 G35. the new RSA tamed this high pressure sharp recoiling round

Agent6-3/8
10-09-2012, 23:27
I will admit that I have no experience with the Gen 3 .40's, however I carry a department issued a Gen 4 G22 everyday. I've had it 4 months now and have around 1000 rounds trough it. Really fine pistol! Recoil, while not a mouse fart, is quite controllable and I shoot it very well.

While I'm sure you'd be satisfied with a Gen 3 I can definitely say you won't be unhappy with a Gen 4.



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ZMBKLR
10-10-2012, 08:18
Gen3 ! All of my Glock have been gen3 and I just bought a Leo trade in g22 3rd gen. Great gun and as far as Glocks go its just
Classic Glock goodness.
No guns are perfect but the older gen 3 's have a better reputation than the gen4's do right now

TxGlock9
10-10-2012, 10:51
No guns are perfect but the older gen 3 's have a better reputation than the gen4's do right now

Not when it comes to the .40 models.

History of gen3 40's kaboom phenomenon < great rep? No.

Gen 4 rep so far? A lot better than gen3.

mad220860
10-10-2012, 15:12
Gen 3 no brainer!! Goes bang everytime!

ChicagoZman
10-10-2012, 18:12
Don't own any Gen 4s as I haven't bought any new Glock 40s in awhile but I do sell a lot of them. If it were me I would go with the Gen 4 as the price differential includes a third magazine (which you're going to need anyway) and has a better magazine release (IMO). It also gives you the option to increase the grip size if you prefer.

hsprincipal
10-10-2012, 18:55
I sure do like my gen4s. Worth the $50 extra dollars.

mad220860
10-13-2012, 13:18
Well just got back from the range!! With my glock 22 gen 3!! Perfection indeed!! And ejected like it should! Go gen 3 buddy!

chilnbloc
10-13-2012, 18:29
I already have ordered my gen 4. It fit way better in my hands. (They are quite large) the grip felt good and that I could actually keep ahold of it without having to readjust my grip like on the gen 3.

MK34_Techrep
10-13-2012, 18:58
I've got a Gen4 G22 I purchased about 6 months ago, have put 1000 rds thru with no malfunctions. It shoots great and handles like a dream. I am really pleased with it...

xrmattaz
10-14-2012, 06:52
I truly enjoy the Gen 4 grip texture, the dual RSA, and that big 'ol mag release.

I can't BELIEVE how good the trigger is on 'em, either!

All my new Glocks will be Gen 4 (or 5?).

RUT
10-14-2012, 10:30
Go with the Gen 4 the grip texture alone is worth it.

Word....

avenues165
10-14-2012, 15:35
Congrats on the Gen 4! Look at it this way if you feel weird at all about the slight increase in cost:

1. Extra mag!
2. The mag release rules!
3. I love the grip texture.
4. Large backstrap for someone like you with large hands.

ColoradoGlock5280
07-09-2013, 20:25
Glock 22, Gen 3 ALL THE WAY! Of course, this is MY opinion. The Gen 3 naturally fits better in the hand (I am able to achieve a GREAT purchase on the Gen 3 as opposed to the Gen 4), the Gen 3 FEELS like a better made weapon, and also has a proven track record considering it has been available for the last 12 or so years. The Gen 3 is also capable of accepting Gen 2, 3, and 4 mags where the Gen 4 can only accept Gen 4. Again, MY opinion is that ANY 3rd Generation Glock is a winner compared to the newer Gen 4's. Not to say the Gen 4's are terrible after all, they are GLOCKS but given an option, I'm Gen 3, all day!

Nestor
07-09-2013, 22:13
I'm only familiar with Gen 3 and it works for me. Only complain that I have is that when my hands are sweating (and they sweating a lot) I need to re-adjust my grip more often than I really want. I bought Brooks Tactical wrap around grip and it's much better now. Yet, I'm planning (possibly) a small experiment with the newer generation soon, but it's not going to be Gen 4 actually. Gen 3.5 with RTF2 frame and fish gills :)

GlockWheeler
07-09-2013, 22:26
Glock 22, Gen 3 ALL THE WAY! Of course, this is MY opinion. The Gen 3 naturally fits better in the hand (I am able to achieve a GREAT purchase on the Gen 3 as opposed to the Gen 4), the Gen 3 FEELS like a better made weapon, and also has a proven track record considering it has been available for the last 12 or so years. The Gen 3 is also capable of accepting Gen 2, 3, and 4 mags where the Gen 4 can only accept Gen 4. Again, MY opinion is that ANY 3rd Generation Glock is a winner compared to the newer Gen 4's. Not to say the Gen 4's are terrible after all, they are GLOCKS but given an option, I'm Gen 3, all day!

Strange. I was under the impression that Gen 2 and Gen 3 magazines could not be used in Gen 4 pistols only if the magazine release was moved to the opposite side of the frame for left handed shooters. Mine have functioned fine.

McdG22
07-09-2013, 23:00
Strange. I was under the impression that Gen 2 and Gen 3 magazines could not be used in Gen 4 pistols only if the magazine release was moved to the opposite side of the frame for left handed shooters. Mine have functioned fine.

Have a Gen 4 22 with 8 mags. 2 of them are gen 3. I'm right handed & they work fine without any changes.

336bl
07-10-2013, 01:03
1. They won't provide you a duty weapon?
2. The following is my opinion of the two. Others will vary. Either would suite me for duty use but I do have a preference.

I hate RTF of gen4. In an open duty holster being occasionally banged against a wall, door frame, ect. those little dots do get easily damaged. The same kind of use I never saw the kind of finish damage to the gen3. Also I don't understand who exactly had a hard time holding on to their gen3 guns in the past. I've held and shot mine with cold and soaking wet hands and no problem. RTF is one of those solutions to a problem that doesn't exist type things.

Concerning the new RSA, I can't tell a difference in recoil over the previous gen3.

Concerning interchangeable backstraps, I didn't have a problem with the grip circumference of gen3 so that is not an issue either. If you are small handed then the grips might be worth it on the gen4 for you.
i think the SWAT and SRT guys started it by using skate-board tape so they would have a better grip while wearing "tactical" gloves...could be wrong... :)