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RustyL
10-13-2012, 11:54
Is the money given to the NRA worth it? I know they fight mightily for our 2nd amendment rights. Is their influence that great with our politicians? I'm thinking of joining.
I own many guns, mainly for hunting. I quit hunting and started fishing...and the fishing industry has their whacked out folks too, wanting to ban this or that.
The reason I joined this GT is I want to learn about handguns. I bought a G 26 and have applied for my CC permit. The more I read about handguns, the more I feel the gun industry is under attack. Anyway, enough of my ranting, Why did you join the NRA?

G36's Rule
10-13-2012, 12:07
Anyone who owns and enjoys their firearms and understands our rights should be a member of the NRA. They do have influence and do use it.

Another organization you should consider is the Second Amendment Foundation. They are the ones who brought the Heller case up and eventually dragged the NRA on board with them.

RenoF250
10-13-2012, 12:08
I think they must spend 90% of the money sending out junk mail.

Providence
10-13-2012, 12:15
I am a member and will continue to be one... but... this week the NRA sent me a Personal Defense Network DVD in the mail, unsolicited. They want me to pay for it or send it back. Not cool in my book. Don't send me stuff unsolicited.


Please vote! It's that important!

FCastle88
10-13-2012, 12:21
I am a member and will continue to be one... but... this week the NRA sent me a Personal Defense Network DVD in the mail, unsolicited. They want me to pay for it or send it back. Not cool in my book. Don't send me stuff unsolicited.


Please vote! It's that important!
Just keep the DVD, legally you're not required to pay for or return unsolicited items that are sent to you.

okie
10-13-2012, 12:32
I am proud to be an NRA member, every member makes up the NRA and we are very powerful:patriot:

mac66
10-13-2012, 12:35
The NRA is the big dog on the block when it comes to gun rights. Whatever else they may do good, bad or indifferent, they are the reason why we still have our guns. Numbers speak loudly, and the NRA has the numbers. They get the attention of law makers (and everyone else).

Don't think that just because no new gun control laws have been passed under Obama that the left has given up. Politicians know that "gun control laws" are the poison apple (thanks to the NRA). New gun control laws won't look like gun control laws and they won't be called gun control. They will look like health care and environmental regulations.

So yeah, the NRA is the big stick. Every gun owner should belong.

rick458
10-13-2012, 12:40
NRA does keep our guns safe, see if Arkansas has a State gun rights group.
I'm in the NRA and the TSRA (Texas State Rifle Assoc)
that will keep you abreast on State and Local legislation.

tous
10-13-2012, 12:41
I think they must spend 90% of the money sending out junk mail.

If that's your best conclusion, then let your membership expire. We have little room for whiners.

Before you do, ask the folk in England, Australia and Canada what is more annoying, losing their right to own and enjoy firearms or some mail that they had to toss in the trash every so often.

The NRA costs money, so they solicit from their members and the public just like any other business and the means they use mailings and emails and such. If it didn't work, they wouldn't do it.

Shinytop
10-13-2012, 12:48
In some cases a member can save the NRA money by not renewing. If a member cannot or will not contribute more money based on the constant mailings then not renewing will be a help to the cause. Maybe they could let members opt out of mail solicitations.

voyager4520
10-13-2012, 12:49
They helped fight a bunch of additions to the Assault Weapons Ban. They helped the people of Chicago and DC fight for their right to own handguns and in those decisions affirmed that the Second Amendment is indeed a right to self-defense, not just having guns for military service and sporting purposes. They helped fight the UN Arms Trade Treaty which is still a threat, and they brought more exposure to the Obama/Holder Fast and Furious gun smuggling. They're also working to get National Carry Reciprocity similar to driver's licenses. That's just off the top of my head.

ronin.45
10-13-2012, 12:52
Join! They are the #1 voice for our rights. Don't let a little junk mail keep you from supporting those who support us.

RenoF250
10-13-2012, 12:55
If that's your best conclusion, then let your membership expire. We have little room for whiners.

Before you do, ask the folk in England, Australia and Canada what is more annoying, losing their right to own and enjoy firearms or some mail that they had to toss in the trash every so often.

The NRA costs money, so they solicit from their members and the public just like any other business and the means they use mailings and emails and such. If it didn't work, they wouldn't do it.

Little sensitive eh? Must be on the NRA junk mail committee.
My membership cannot expire, I am a life member. If you don't think sending offers for life insurance etc. 2X a week if stupid then I guess we will just agree to disagree.

TK-421
10-13-2012, 12:55
I'm planning on joining when I can afford to do so, they really seem to have a fair bit of weight to throw around in Congress, and they're doing a fairly decent job from what I can tell. They also fund some lawsuits, which is nice, because generally the every day man can't afford lengthy lawsuits to protect our rights when they're infringed upon.

So, the NRA, the Texas Rifle Association, the Second Amendment Foundation, any other groups I should join? Preferably ones who actually do something, like the NRA and the Second Amendment Foundation. Can't comment on the Texas Rifle Association, since I haven't done any research on them, but I am in Texas, so I figure I might as well join, if it will help them out.

tous
10-13-2012, 12:56
In some cases a member can save the NRA money by not renewing. If a member cannot or will not contribute more money based on the constant mailings then not renewing will be a help to the cause. Maybe they could let members opt out of mail solicitations.

Uh, they already offer that feature.

If you are not so danged important that you will lower yourself to dial a telephne, Call this number: 1-800-672-3888

Tell the nice person that aswers that you do not wish to recieve unsolicited mail.

Thank them, find something else to whine about get on with your life.

tous
10-13-2012, 12:57
Little sensitive eh? Must be on the NRA junk mail committee.
My membership cannot expire, I am a life member. If you don't think sending offers for life insurance etc. 2X a week if stupid then I guess we will just agree to disagree.

We disagree.
:wavey:

tous
10-13-2012, 12:58
I'm planning on joining when I can afford to do so, they really seem to have a fair bit of weight to throw around in Congress, and they're doing a fairly decent job from what I can tell. They also fund some lawsuits, which is nice, because generally the every day man can't afford lengthy lawsuits to protect our rights when they're infringed upon.

So, the NRA, the Texas Rifle Association, the Second Amendment Foundation, any other groups I should join? Preferably ones who actually do something, like the NRA and the Second Amendment Foundation. Can't comment on the Texas Rifle Association, since I haven't done any research on them, but I am in Texas, so I figure I might as well join, if it will help them out.

The Texas State Rifle Association is an excellent organization.
They are very effective thwarting the hippie socialists at the state level.
Join us and become a snorting bull.

TK-421
10-13-2012, 13:27
Trust me, after living in Illinois for most of my life, through no fault of my own, I'm glad to be out of there. :supergrin: As soon as I could afford to get the hell out, I did. And I'm damn proud to support any organization who fights for my rights. All it takes is a job and some money.

HerrGlock
10-13-2012, 13:42
Strange, I've never gotten one piece of junk mail from the NRA since I called them and asked to be taken off the junk mail list. Only the magazine and voting guides ever since.

I guess that's only if you can figure out what this means:
Q: How can I reduce the amount of mail I receive from the NRA?
A: Simply email us at membership@nrahq.org or dial 800-NRA-3888 and request to be placed on the "Do Not Promote" list. This will significantly reduce the amount of mail you receive without affecting important mailings, magazine service, or your membership renewal.

Note, even if you don't particularly like the NRA join. They're the only ones that is spoken of in "the gun lobby" tones by all the media and the Brady Campaign so they're the only ones the anti groups are actually afraid of. In addition to the NRA, consider SAF, Second Amendment Sisters, JPFO, etc.

frizz
10-13-2012, 14:07
NRA: Not perfect, but worth it.

Shinytop
10-13-2012, 14:30
Uh, they already offer that feature.

If you are not so danged important that you will lower yourself to dial a telephne, Call this number: 1-800-672-3888

Tell the nice person that aswers that you do not wish to recieve unsolicited mail.

Thank them, find something else to whine about get on with your life.

I think I am not the whiny one, Tous. Why are you are on a discussion board if you do not like discussion?

tous
10-13-2012, 14:46
I think I am not the whiny one, Tous. Why are you are on a discussion board if you do not like discussion?

Those to whom I responded were not discussing, they were whining.

Asking why one should join the National Rifle Association is somewhat like asking why one should step out of the way of a speeding car.

The answer is obvious.

Okay, I wil admit to some bias. I have been an NRA member for more than 50 years, have actively participated for a lot of those years, and have been a Patron member for the last 10 years and an NRA istructor for longer than most of y'all have been alive.

I don't spend that kind of money on dubious efforts.

I've likely seen more vicious attempts to disarm the American citizen thwarted by the NRA than most and I remember how it used to be before the hippie socialists decided guns are bad for children and other living things,

:wavey:

Mushinto
10-13-2012, 14:53
The NRA is one of the largest lobbying organizations in the nation. Their marketing people are smarter than you or I am.

If sending out mail, DVDs etc. did not raise tons of money for gun rights, then they wouldn't be doing it.

For the OP, join or be a scab.

rednoved
10-13-2012, 14:56
I'm a member of the NRA and I'm about the join the TSRA.

tous
10-13-2012, 14:57
I'm a member of the NRA and I'm about the join the TSRA.

About to? :shocked:

What's keeping you, amigo?
:supergrin:

We'll be honored to have you, sir.


:cowboy:

:wavey:

zoyter2
10-13-2012, 15:08
Is the money given to the NRA worth it? I know they fight mightily for our 2nd amendment rights..................

There you go! They do this for the yearly price of a nice steak dinner.

Skeet732
10-13-2012, 15:21
Life member here, became one after Hiillary Clinton shot her mouth off about gin control when Slick Willie was POTUS. I'll always be a member, especially after they pin back the ears of the NOPD after Katrina. Remember; "turn in your guns because we say so!!!"

Gallium
10-13-2012, 16:00
I am a Life Member of the NRA, and an instructor for many of their disciplines, across different categories. I teach/hold workshops at least 10x a year (on average, over the past 10 years), sometimes for less than break even. I am passionate about our 2nd Amendment rights, the sport of shooting, and gun ownership (they are not always mutually inclusive, or the same).

From a legislative/lobbying/fund-raising perspective, the NRA has the best engine for applying pressure where it is needed.

From a perspective of court cases in the judicial arena, they cannot hold a candle to the sunlight of the SAF.

If you want to chip away at gun restrictions in the courtroom SUPPORT THE SAF.

If you want to make your voice heard in Washington DC at both congressional levels, SUPPORT THE NRA-ILA and the NRA.

If you want to help bring about changes to gun laws in your state JOIN A LOCAL GUN-RIGHTS organization, and more important, TEACH YOUR KIDS AND YOUR NEPHEWS/NEICES/GRAND-OFFSPRING to shoot, and foster a love of shooting in them.

Every thing else is just fluff.



If Amazon.com was running the NRA (or Congress, or IBM, etc), just imagine how efficient they would be. MOST naturally occuring organisms have a finite life - there is a reason for that. Human cells cannibalize older, bruised cells, and at some point all human cells simply quit. It is in OUR best interest to have a new, leaner organization rise from the ashes of what exists today, to defend and support our gun rights.

Unfortunately, so many people (many here) are afraid of real non-Obama change, it most likely won't ever happen.

purrrfect 10
10-13-2012, 16:22
LOVE FOR GUNS is there anything else better ? this post is over ................

Diesel_Bomber
10-13-2012, 16:43
Join.

When the left wing talks about "the powerful gun lobby" blocking "an important piece of gun legislation", they are talking about the NRA and NRA/ILA.

Shoot your .22's a little more and your 9mm/.45/etc a little less and pony up the cash and join.

Edit: I am also a member of the Oregon Firearms Federation. No compromise!

Sporaticus
10-13-2012, 16:50
I have to as a requirement for my club.

But they send some nifty free gifts from time to time. I recently got a Personal Defense Network DVD, and I didn't even ask or pay for it.

Shinytop
10-13-2012, 17:36
I am 64 years old and joined the NRA for three years about ten years ago. I did not even own a gun at the time. If available I was not aware of the ability to turn off the flow of offers. I will rejoin and I thank those who let me know of that option. I am being printed and photographed Monday for my FL ccw.

sheriff733
10-13-2012, 17:40
Life member, here.


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tous
10-13-2012, 18:12
I am 64 years old and joined the NRA for three years about ten years ago. I did not even own a gun at the time. If available I was not aware of the ability to turn off the flow of offers. I will rejoin and I thank those who let me know of that option. I am being printed and photographed Monday for my FL ccw.

:thumbsup:

:elephant: <--- celebratory heffalump

Join you state rifle club as well.

badge315
10-13-2012, 18:13
The NRA is probably the most powerful and effective lobbying group of all time. There are other groups that also do good work (e.g., the SAF), but the NRA is the big dog. Every gun owner should join. :wavey:

porschedog
10-13-2012, 18:20
The short answer to your question is Hells Yes!!

coqui33
10-13-2012, 18:37
Just keep the DVD, legally you're not required to pay for or return unsolicited items that are sent to you.

That is correct. Nevertheless, I recommend that the person complaining watch the DVD first. It is Rob Pincus teaching his combat focus method. Interesting and informative. Then, just trash the DVD or send it back in the prepaid mailer.

gwalchmai
10-13-2012, 18:47
In some cases a member can save the NRA money by not renewing. If a member cannot or will not contribute more money based on the constant mailings then not renewing will be a help to the cause. Maybe they could let members opt out of mail solicitations.
I called their helpdesk number and asked to be removed. I haven't received a single piece of junk mail from them since. Give it a try.

gwalchmai
10-13-2012, 18:53
One thing I love about the NRA - today I received the latest issue of American Rifleman. The cover said "Defend Freedom. DEFEAT OBAMA". No wishy-washy BS about it. I like that. I hope it signifies a trend.

The best thing about the NRA, and I'm a member of several gun-rights organizations, is that the NRA strikes fear in the hearts of anti-gunners more than any other. That alone makes them worth joining.

TheJ
10-13-2012, 18:59
Anyone who owns and enjoys their firearms and understands our rights should be a member of the NRA. They do have influence and do use it.

Another organization you should consider is the Second Amendment Foundation. They are the ones who brought the Heller case up and eventually dragged the NRA on board with them.

This.

The more members the NRA has the greater their influence and the more selective they can be with who they put their support behind. Also the SAF is an excellent group. I support them as well in additional to several local group.

There is something like 80 million gun owners in the US but the NRA only has something on the order of 4.3 million members.. If only half the gun owners in the US were a members of the NRA, we would have very very little to worry about from politicians infringing on our right of self defense.

Just imagine if every gun owner in the US was an NRA and SAF member..

There are two types of gun owners, those who are riding in the wagon and those who are pulling it. If you are not a member of at least one of the great groups that support our rights then you are just free loading on the work of others.

schild
10-13-2012, 19:09
Life member NRA.
My wife and I have a family membership in the ISRA.
GOA member.
I think my membership in JPFO just expired.

NEOH212
10-13-2012, 19:27
I think they must spend 90% of the money sending out junk mail.

This.

I never did like their attitude toward their members. I dumped them long ago.

NRA

No Real Action.

When other people do all the hard work and get results, the NRA is there just in time to take all the credit.

No thank you.

mortpes
10-13-2012, 21:35
Yes you should support them. Give as much as you can. Your rights are being attacked every day.

Drain You
10-13-2012, 23:04
I just joined tonight, $25 instead of $35 and BassPro is throwing me a $25 gift card for my trouble.


I've been meaning to re-join for awhile.

stevelyn
10-14-2012, 01:55
When the Brady pukes and other of the enemy camp speak, they speak about the NRA.

So what do you think?

I think we (the NRA) have their undivided attention.

okie
10-14-2012, 02:32
I just joined tonight, $25 instead of $35 and BassPro is throwing me a $25 gift card for my trouble.


I've been meaning to re-join for awhile.

Thank you and many congrats my friend:patriot:

HerrGlock
10-14-2012, 03:12
This.

I never did like their attitude toward their members. I dumped them long ago.

NRA

No Real Action.

When other people do all the hard work and get results, the NRA is there just in time to take all the credit.

No thank you.

Do you happen to know why you no longer get bright orange tags on the outside of your luggage when you fly with a firearm? Did you ever wonder who lobbied for there to be a sunset in the Assault Weapon Ban instead of it being permanent from the get-go? Have you considered why there is no permanent 5 day waiting period on all firearm purchases and the instant check became the standard instead?

Yeah, other places (SAF) tend to initiate a lot of the lawsuits but for the lobbying, it's the NRA above and beyond anyone.

Oh yeah, a lot of people got and get down on the NRA for being a Johnny come lately to the McDonald case and some even think the NRA horned in and came close to blowing the case entirely after the SAF started it. One day really read the McDonald findings, all of them, and look at who brought up what arguments (2d amendment, 14th amendment, etc) and what the finding for the defendant actually hinged on. Just to put it out there for consideration, it was the NRA's argument that the majority ruled on, NOT any one else's.

So, yeah, they do stuff. The SAF is excellent for lawsuits and I'll give them money every day of the week but the NRA is the one actually lobbying in the congress as well as the state houses, where the SAF is not. Two organizations that do different things.

frizz
10-14-2012, 03:56
This.

I never did like their attitude toward their members. I dumped them long ago.

NRA

No Real Action.

When other people do all the hard work and get results, the NRA is there just in time to take all the credit.

No thank you.

I do not deny that the NRA can do some glory-grabbing, but they are not worthless. The lobbying force of the NRA is solid.

mike g35
10-14-2012, 04:15
The NRA is great and does good work for gun owners and yes I'm a member. But the phone calls, those damn phone calls....it's extremely annoying.


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HerrGlock
10-14-2012, 04:27
The NRA is great and does good work for gun owners and yes I'm a member. But the phone calls, those damn phone calls....it's extremely annoying.

Never gotten a phone call from them. Weird. But then again I did call them and ask to get taken off the fund raising lists.

Gallium
10-14-2012, 04:33
Do you happen to know why you no longer get bright orange tags on the outside of your luggage when you fly with a firearm? Did you ever wonder who lobbied for there to be a sunset in the Assault Weapon Ban instead of it being permanent from the get-go? Have you considered why there is no permanent 5 day waiting period on all firearm purchases and the instant check became the standard instead?

Yeah, other places (SAF) tend to initiate a lot of the lawsuits but for the lobbying, it's the NRA above and beyond anyone.

Oh yeah, a lot of people got and get down on the NRA for being a Johnny come lately to the McDonald case and some even think the NRA horned in and came close to blowing the case entirely after the SAF started it. One day really read the McDonald findings, all of them, and look at who brought up what arguments (2d amendment, 14th amendment, etc) and what the finding for the defendant actually hinged on. Just to put it out there for consideration, it was the NRA's argument that the majority ruled on, NOT any one else's.

So, yeah, they do stuff. The SAF is excellent for lawsuits and I'll give them money every day of the week but the NRA is the one actually lobbying in the congress as well as the state houses, where the SAF is not. Two organizations that do different things.


Did I already not say this??? :whistling::tongueout:

HerrGlock
10-14-2012, 04:47
Did I already not say this??? :whistling::tongueout:

Yeah but I was giving specifics :tongueout:

RustyL
10-14-2012, 05:05
Well I took the plunge and got the Lifetime Membership. The country will be a better place if ours guns rights are kept. Hell I have spent well over a grand on golf balls and jigs in the last 4 years, may as well give them some money....:patriot:

PhotoFeller
10-14-2012, 05:38
NRA is aggressive in raising funds, and sometimes it seems they ask too often. I honestly believe, however, that NRA is the only effective barrier to losing many/most of our gun rights. NRA is our voice in Washington and state houses. If we weren't too lazy to do the heavy lifting as individuals, the need for NRA might not be so great; but we are lazy and have no organization to apply concentrated leverage. Thus, support NRA or accept the consequences.

I wish you younger guys would consider becoming Lifetime members. I've been renewing on an annual or two-year basis for decades, and now at 72 I'm preparing to become a lifer. It will save NRA member renewal costs, it will be cheaper for you over time, and it makes the organization visibly stronger. Think about it.

deputy tom
10-14-2012, 06:01
Well I took the plunge and got the Lifetime Membership. The country will be a better place if ours guns rights are kept. Hell I have spent well over a grand on golf balls and jigs in the last 4 years, may as well give them some money....:patriot:

Welcome to the club RustyL. tom.:welcome:

Mushinto
10-14-2012, 12:59
I am a cheap bastard.

The real reason.

Providence
10-14-2012, 21:02
228369I'll admit that things like this issue cover make me smile with hope!


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MrGlock21
10-14-2012, 21:23
...., Why did you join the NRA?

Because the NRA is the only heavy weight gun lobby capable of pushing back when the anti gun advocates act up in order to take down the 2A.

The NRA is big enough to develope the political, financial and litigatious force to succeed. All three elements are essential in that regard.

I urge every gun owner to join the NRA to make sure that it remains big.:patriot:

CBennett
10-14-2012, 21:30
nra: Not perfect, but worth it.

^ 100%

Fox
10-14-2012, 22:40
Little sensitive eh? Must be on the NRA junk mail committee.
My membership cannot expire, I am a life member. If you don't think sending offers for life insurance etc. 2X a week if stupid then I guess we will just agree to disagree.

There is a telephone number on the back of your card that you can call to end the unsolicited mail.

That said, you are still a whiner that annoys everyone.

Paul53
10-14-2012, 23:32
NRA: Not perfect, but worth it.

+1! Would like to become a life member when finances permit, till then it's yearly. I don't agree with all the NRA says and does, but who else is trying to protect my second amendment rights?

SevenSixtyTwo
10-15-2012, 17:37
The NRA is one of those necessary pests that tirelessly defends our right to own and bear arms. They can send me all the junk mail they want. The USPS desperately needs the business.

TK-421
10-15-2012, 18:07
I don't know what it's like by you guys, or by where I live, but when I lived with my grandparents, the mail carriers got paid for each piece of mail they carried. They said they loved the holidays, when everybody got lots of catalogs. So I'd be more than happy to get all the junkmail the NRA will give me, if I was still living with my grandparents. They had nice mail carriers, I liked them, and would be more than happy to help them out by getting tons of junk mail.

Danl Boone
10-15-2012, 18:14
Little sensitive eh? Must be on the NRA junk mail committee.
My membership cannot expire, I am a life member. If you don't think sending offers for life insurance etc. 2X a week if stupid then I guess we will just agree to disagree.

That's weird. I am also a life member and I never hear anything from them. Wonder if they lost my address?

Trew2Life
10-15-2012, 18:16
I just joined the NRA. I know ... (there goes the neighborhood!) Apparently they have a very laxed background check if they're letting liberal left-wingers like me join, but it was a free one year membership offer with a new handgun I just purchased.

I don't agree with some of there politics, but I do recognize their importance in preserving and defending the second amendment. What the hell ... I get a free magazine subscription, if nothing else.

Mushinto
10-15-2012, 21:55
I just joined the NRA. I know ... (there goes the neighborhood!) Apparently they have a very laxed background check if they're letting liberal left-wingers like me join, ...

As long as we both can still bear arms, we won't be able to force the other one into changing their world view.

Something the rest of the left should think about.

Hillbilly Dan
10-16-2012, 00:54
I am a life member and proud to be one. For the money you spend you sure get a value. First and formost is the fact that they watch the law makers in each state and our wonderful Fed Gov. They help us keep our rights. You get a great magazine each month, insurance on your guns and life insurance. Heck of a deal if you ask me. If you tell them to stop sending the junk mail they will. Just call the toll free number and ask. They also support a seperate organization called Friends of NRA which is a fund raising group where all the funds raised go to young folks and help them in their shooting sports. It also helps 4H and Boy Scouts.
We are lucky to have them fighting for us and helping the shooting sports in general.
Hillbilly Dan
Life Member NRA
Friends of NRA

TheJ
10-16-2012, 02:56
I just joined the NRA. I know ... (there goes the neighborhood!) Apparently they have a very laxed background check if they're letting liberal left-wingers like me join, but it was a free one year membership offer with a new handgun I just purchased.

I don't agree with some of there politics, but I do recognize their importance in preserving and defending the second amendment. What the hell ... I get a free magazine subscription, if nothing else.
Congratulations on joining.
Curious what specifically you find disagreeable about the NRA politics?

Gallium
10-16-2012, 04:34
Congratulations on joining.
Curious what specifically you find disagreeable about the NRA politics?

Excluding the systematic histrionics, distortion of truth and infrequent hyperbole, nothing really.

Wait, that was not political, that's just my perception of their operandus modi

Identity withheld.

Psychman
10-16-2012, 05:25
I could be a life member, but I prefer to send more money over time. I kind of like getting those occasional mailings from the NRA. I have never received a phone call.

PS Please do not send me your mail from the NRA. I have my own.

ithaca_deerslayer
10-16-2012, 06:11
If someone like me from NYS can join and pay dues, so can you.

SC Tiger
10-16-2012, 06:57
Just keep the DVD, legally you're not required to pay for or return unsolicited items that are sent to you.

I did that with a book from The History Channel that was sent unsolicited. I still have the book and never paid them.

I never become a "life member" of anything. I always want to be able to stop sending money to an organization if they #### me off bad enough.

That said I believe my membership has lapsed. I need to get on that.

Timotheous46
10-16-2012, 09:37
I'm a member for two reasons:
One, for all the good reasons given so far.
Two, it really bugs my very liberal brother.

Providence
10-16-2012, 15:02
As a point of information, many groups offer discounts for NRA membership.

Here is one from Human Events: https://membership.nrahq.org/forms/signup.asp?CampaignID=XR020829


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dango
10-16-2012, 15:40
I am proud to be an NRA member, every member makes up the NRA and we are very powerful:patriot:

Ditto that....! While we do NOTHING , they are our voice , so
the answer is quite obvious.........! NRA all the way......!

Trew2Life
10-16-2012, 16:03
Congratulations on joining.
Curious what specifically you find disagreeable about the NRA politics?

Thank you.

They endorse Mitt Romney. As a former volunteer of our fine military, I find it distasteful to endorse a draft-dodger for president; no matter the detriment of voting for the other candidate.

dango
10-16-2012, 16:45
I wish I could have dodged the draft. That whole Nam thing was
nothing more than lies and PROFIT.........! Know your history.!

And so the LIES and PROFIT continue......!

PS: What happens if we do war with Iran........? Open your eyes...!

Russia and China are very clear on this.....! Sheeeeeez....!!

Trew2Life
10-16-2012, 17:48
I wish I could have dodged the draft. That whole Nam thing was
nothing more than lies and PROFIT.........! Know your history.!

And so the LIES and PROFIT continue......!

PS: What happens if we do war with Iran........? Open your eyes...!

Russia and China are very clear on this.....! Sheeeeeez....!!

No matter what you thought of the ulterior motives of going to war (in Viet Nam and most recently, Iraq) it doesn't disparge the fine service of the men and woman who gave their lives for our flag. Know your patriotism!

It's one thing to be against a war and refusing to fight as a conscientious objector. It's another thing to do as Mitt Romney did, and protest IN FAVOR OF THE VIETNAM WAR DRAFT and then apply for a deferment from the draft so he may serve his missionary service in Europe. That's cowardice. Know your patriotism!

With all of his education, wealth and influence, he could have easily served as an officer, even in the Pentagon perhaps (if he were afraid of charlie in the bush). He choose to serve a different allegiance.

Yes. He's ready to wage war for American interest, but will any of his children or grandchildren serve? He didn't. Open your eye's.

So ... to tie this together with the original OP, Mitt Romney is a poor candidate for the NRA to endorse.

WarCry
10-16-2012, 18:25
For the OP, join or be a scab.

This kind of comment is one of the (many) reasons I don't want to be associated with them. "If you don't believe what I do, then you're worthless". Calling someone a scab because they don't want to join the same group as you? Really? Gotta love that warm, cordial feeling of open arms....


While we do NOTHING,

And this is one of the other reasons. YOU may be doing nothing. I have my senators' and representatives' phone numbers locally and in Washington, and they know my position and my name. I do the same at the state level, and they know me, too.

It's a sad state to say that my voice doesn't carry the same weight, but I'm not "doing nothing." I don't need to pay someone else to make phone calls for me.

I appreciate the work they do, I really do. But to imply - or flat out say - I'm not as 'good' of a gun owner because I want to speak for myself is, quite frankly, insulting.

moeman
10-16-2012, 20:21
I am a member and will continue to be one... but... this week the NRA sent me a Personal Defense Network DVD in the mail, unsolicited. They want me to pay for it or send it back. Not cool in my book. Don't send me stuff unsolicited.


Please vote! It's that important!

Another sleezy NRA marketing campaign. Beeen doing the same crap for years.


They lost me over this kind of stuff.

plainsman
10-16-2012, 20:58
But, you have to understand why it has been up to the few million NRA, GOA, Citizens for the Right to Bear Arms, etc. with a memberships combined centainly less then 10 million, have to fight the battle for 90 million useless gunowners, who many times don't even know who to vote for.
Unfortunately, the only ones that contribute, are the ones who stepped up in the first place to provide their money and their voices in opposing gun controls.

The ones you really need to vent on are the useless do-nuttings who do nothing to support gunowners, either you support gun rights, or you may as well be voting for obama. AsK some of these worthless do nuttings just what do they do to fight gun control.

Mushinto
10-17-2012, 12:37
This kind of comment is one of the (many) reasons I don't want to be associated with them. "If you don't believe what I do, then you're worthless". Calling someone a scab because they don't want to join the same group as you? Really? Gotta love that warm, cordial feeling of open arms...

A scab is an individual who reaps the benefits that an organization provides or wins, without joining or contributing to that organization.

If the shoe fits ...

RustyL
10-17-2012, 13:37
Why hell, I'm not concerned what people think about me. I pay state, local, federal taxes, and plenty of it. I was born in this country, I will die in this country, and would serve this country again if need be. I will die for this country if its sovereignty challenged. Marines toughened me up enough to take name calling...:upeyes:




This kind of comment is one of the (many) reasons I don't want to be associated with them. "If you don't believe what I do, then you're worthless". Calling someone a scab because they don't want to join the same group as you? Really? Gotta love that warm, cordial feeling of open arms....




And this is one of the other reasons. YOU may be doing nothing. I have my senators' and representatives' phone numbers locally and in Washington, and they know my position and my name. I do the same at the state level, and they know me, too.

It's a sad state to say that my voice doesn't carry the same weight, but I'm not "doing nothing." I don't need to pay someone else to make phone calls for me.

I appreciate the work they do, I really do. But to imply - or flat out say - I'm not as 'good' of a gun owner because I want to speak for myself is, quite frankly, insulting.