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Trew2Life
10-15-2012, 19:40
Romney Is Attacked by His Father's Longtime Aide. (http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/10/15/romney-is-attacked-by-his-fathers-longtime-aide/)

A longtime aide to George W. Romney issued a harshly worded critique of Mitt Romney, accusing him of shifting political positions in “erratic and startling ways” and failing to live up to the distinguished record of his father, the former governor of Michigan.

WOW! Not exactly what you want to hear about the GOP candidate on the eve of a critical 2nd presidential debate and less than 3 weeks to the election.

DMaddox
10-15-2012, 19:41
I don't care....I am still voting for Romney.

Cambo
10-15-2012, 19:47
I don't care....I am still voting for Romney.

I am not only voting for Romney, I will be sending him more money due to the liberal's post.

countrygun
10-15-2012, 19:51
I suppose the liberals would like to compare the folks who have known Romney and Obama the longest and see what kind of standards they are dealing with. Bii ayers and Reverend Wright come to mind. Fine charecter references to be sure.

rgregoryb
10-15-2012, 19:52
Romney Is Attacked by His Father's Longtime Aide. (http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/10/15/romney-is-attacked-by-his-fathers-longtime-aide/)

A longtime aide to George W. Romney issued a harshly worded critique of Mitt Romney, accusing him of shifting political positions in “erratic and startling ways” and failing to live up to the distinguished record of his father, the former governor of Michigan.

WOW! Not exactly what you want to hear about the GOP candidate on the eve of a critical 2nd presidential debate and less than 3 weeks to the election.

but your guy is a worthless Marxist POS

GAFinch
10-15-2012, 19:56
NYT?

:rofl::rofl::rofl:

countrygun
10-15-2012, 20:01
strange. Calling this little article a sign of "Romney's house of cards collapsing" doesn't even seem like the words of someone with much experience in American politics.

aircarver
10-15-2012, 20:20
... More like desperate grabbing at straws ... :upeyes:

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pipedreams
10-15-2012, 20:25
I am not only voting for Romney, I will be sending him more money due to the liberal's post.


+100 :agree:

NDCent
10-15-2012, 20:30
The aide sounds like some grumpy old coot wanting to make a few bucks off a book deal. :fred:

Paul7
10-15-2012, 20:40
:yawn:, another RINO.

"Mr. De Vries, who said he wished to the see the Republican Party return to its moderate roots, said he intended to vote for Mr. Obama on Election Day."

With aides like Mr. De Vries, its a good thing Romney Sr. failed in his political quest.

Trew2Life
10-15-2012, 20:42
I love reading how you guys are selling yourselfs out in favor of the Non-Obama candidate with little to no support among Jews, women, latinos, veterans, elderly, blacks, gays, union workers, ... the 'illegals', the deceased, the entitlement class and all the others who will be committing voter fraud come this November.

It's going to be a hard pill for you to swallow come election night results.

I'm going to love Mitt Romney's concession speech.

JBnTX
10-15-2012, 20:49
I love reading how you guys are selling yourselfs out in favor of the Non-Obama candidate with little to no support among Jews, women, latinos, veterans, elderly, blacks, gays, union workers, ... the 'illegals', the deceased, the entitlement class and all the others who will be committing voter fraud come this November.

It's going to be a hard pill for you to swallow come election night results.

I'm going to love Mitt Romney's concession speech.


Are you really that scared that Romney will win the election?

I suggest you have the shoulder of a friend and a big box of Kleenex ready for election night.

A wailing and gnashing of teeth will be heard coast to coast as liberals everywhere lament the fall of their marxist half-Arab hero.

GAFinch
10-15-2012, 20:50
He's doing pretty well with women now and very well with the elderly.

DMaddox
10-15-2012, 20:53
Selling myself out? There are 2 options for president this election cycle. One is Romney, one is Obama. I am selling myself out? I want to stop the destruction of this country!

This is a no-brainer. Why would I vote for that %$#^$^&%* in office now? Who are you voting for "TREW2LIFE"? Obama? (obama) Third party? (obama) Not at all? (obama)

Obviously it's not for Romney with postings like this.

Are you trying to convince us not to vote for him, or are you just doing what the DU told you to do?

nursetim
10-15-2012, 20:53
Well my cousins friend has a girlfriend who used to date the fiancé of the official nose picker of the Republican Party, and he said "blah blah blah blah blah" :upeyes:

rgregoryb
10-15-2012, 21:09
I love reading how you guys are selling yourselfs out in favor of the Non-Obama candidate with little to no support among Jews, women, latinos, veterans, elderly, blacks, gays, union workers, ... the 'illegals', the deceased, the entitlement class and all the others who will be committing voter fraud come this November.

It's going to be a hard pill for you to swallow come election night results.

I'm going to love Mitt Romney's concession speech.

you and the rest of the leeches got big hopes

Paul7
10-15-2012, 21:14
I love reading how you guys are selling yourselfs out in favor of the Non-Obama candidate with little to no support among Jews, women, latinos, veterans, elderly, blacks, gays, union workers, ... the 'illegals', the deceased, the entitlement class and all the others who will be committing voter fraud come this November.

It's going to be a hard pill for you to swallow come election night results.

I'm going to love Mitt Romney's concession speech.

A latino here for Romney. You seem to be very into identity politics.

QNman
10-15-2012, 21:15
:yawn:, another RINO.

"Mr. De Vries, who said he wished to the see the Republican Party return to its moderate roots, said he intended to vote for Mr. Obama on Election Day."

With aides like Mr. De Vries, its a good thing Romney Sr. failed in his political quest.

^ This.

I love reading how you guys are selling yourselfs out in favor of the Non-Obama candidate with little to no support among Jews, women, latinos, veterans, elderly, blacks, gays, union workers, ... the 'illegals', the deceased, the entitlement class and all the others who will be committing voter fraud come this November.

It's going to be a hard pill for you to swallow come election night results.

I'm going to love Mitt Romney's concession speech.

Nice. What was your previous screen name(s)? Two months in and already just another leftist blatherer. Come back when you have an actual point.

QNman
10-15-2012, 21:16
Well my cousins friend has a girlfriend who used to date the fiancé of the official nose picker of the Republican Party, and he said "blah blah blah blah blah" :upeyes:

:rofl:

I wonder what Romney's neighbors cat thinks?

Snowman92D
10-15-2012, 23:13
Are you really that scared that Romney will win the election?

I suggest you have the shoulder of a friend and a big box of Kleenex ready for election night.

You might also suggest that he try some Midol in the interim.

happyguy
10-16-2012, 02:03
I love reading how you guys are selling yourselfs out in favor of the Non-Obama candidate with little to no support among Jews, women, latinos, veterans, elderly, blacks, gays, union workers, ... the 'illegals', the deceased, the entitlement class and all the others who will be committing voter fraud come this November.

It's going to be a hard pill for you to swallow come election night results.

I'm going to love Mitt Romney's concession speech.

Do you have to buy an Airtime Card for your Obama phone or are your monthly minutes loaded automatically?

Regards,
Happyguy :)

JFrame
10-16-2012, 04:48
Artur Davis would beg to differ with the OP. :cool:


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Bren
10-16-2012, 05:03
I am not only voting for Romney, I will be sending him more money due to the liberal's post.

If that's the best Trew2Life and Flintlocker can come up with, Romney is looking better every day.:rofl:

Bren
10-16-2012, 05:10
I love reading how you guys are selling yourselfs out in favor of the Non-Obama candidate with little to no support among Jews, women, latinos, veterans, elderly, blacks, gays, union workers, ... the 'illegals', the deceased, the entitlement class and all the others who will be committing voter fraud come this November.

I can tell you, as a person active in several veterans organizations, the "no support among veterans" looks a lot more like about 80% in favor of Romney (and most of the other 20% are black and voting on race).

You seem proud to side with the candidate who will be chosen by "the 'illegals', the deceased, the entitlement class and all the others who will be committing voter fraud" - good to be honest with yourself, anyhow. At least you can admit to being among them and supporting a candidate who appeals to them.

series1811
10-16-2012, 06:16
I love reading how you guys are selling yourselfs out in favor of the Non-Obama candidate with little to no support among Jews, women, latinos, veterans, elderly, blacks, gays, union workers, ... the 'illegals', the deceased, the entitlement class and all the others who will be committing voter fraud come this November.

It's going to be a hard pill for you to swallow come election night results.

I'm going to love Mitt Romney's concession speech.

Hey, if Obama wins, how much worse could four more years of unemployment, a dead economy, and more bankruptcies, foreclosures, and taxes be? It isn't like we aren't used to it.

But, thanks for reminding me why it is so important to vote for Romney.

Vic777
10-16-2012, 09:21
WOW! Not exactly what you want to hear about the GOP candidate on the eve of a critical 2nd presidential debate and less than 3 weeks to the election.I can think of something even more damning. The present occupant of the WH is an incompetent fool! A more "flexible" Obama? I'd rather have David Letterman!

Zombie Surgeon
10-16-2012, 09:23
Romney Is Attacked by His Father's Longtime Aide. (http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/10/15/romney-is-attacked-by-his-fathers-longtime-aide/)

A longtime aide to George W. Romney issued a harshly worded critique of Mitt Romney, accusing him of shifting political positions in “erratic and startling ways” and failing to live up to the distinguished record of his father, the former governor of Michigan.

WOW! Not exactly what you want to hear about the GOP candidate on the eve of a critical 2nd presidential debate and less than 3 weeks to the election.

http://cdn.motinetwork.net/demotivationalposters.net/image/demotivational-poster/0805/desperation-hillary-desperation-cartoon-demotivational-poster-1210015205.jpg

panzer1
10-16-2012, 09:56
Do you have to buy an Airtime Card for your Obama phone or are your monthly minutes loaded automatically?

Regards,
Happyguy :):rofl::rofl::rofl:

Cavalry Doc
10-16-2012, 10:12
He's doing pretty well with women now and very well with the elderly.

Hmmmm. Looks like Barry is losing the Veterans too.

Veterans retreating from President Obama (http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0912/81616.html)


I'm thinking the troll is misinformed. :rofl:

aircarver
10-16-2012, 10:27
I'm thinking the troll is misinformed. :rofl:

....or just lyin' ......:supergrin:

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Bobb G
10-16-2012, 10:42
NYT?

:rofl::rofl::rofl:

This:thumbsup:

G29Reload
10-16-2012, 11:56
Well, he liberal troll has his post in for the day.

I will send Romney money now. Hadnt previously.

And this just in, polls continue to show romney surge, including women, BGstates and particularly OH where Romney is now ahead.

Cmon Mitt, give us a kill shot tonight! Finish him off!

stevelyn
10-16-2012, 12:17
I love reading how you guys are selling yourselfs out in favor of the Non-Obama candidate with little to no support among Jews, women, latinos, veterans, elderly, blacks, gays, union workers, ... the 'illegals', the deceased, the entitlement class and all the others who will be committing voter fraud come this November.
It's going to be a hard pill for you to swallow come election night results.

I'm going to love Mitt Romney's concession speech.


You have to give him credit for being honest about the democrap voting practices.

Bren
10-16-2012, 12:51
This just in:

The latest polls show Romney catching or slightly passing President Barack Obama in both the overall race and in some of the battleground states still considered up for grabs and therefore vital to both candidates' chances.

http://www.cnn.com/2012/10/15/politics/romney-polls/index.html?hpt=hp_t1

Angry Fist
10-16-2012, 12:55
I love reading how you guys are selling yourselfs out in favor of the Non-Obama candidate with little to no support among Jews, women, latinos, veterans, elderly, blacks, gays, union workers, ... the 'illegals', the deceased, the entitlement class and all the others who will be committing voter fraud come this November.

It's going to be a hard pill for you to swallow come election night results.

I'm going to love Mitt Romney's concession speech.
That's OK. You can keep the queers and illegals. We don't really represent them anyways.

Jay9928
10-16-2012, 16:06
Obama believed he won the first debate LOL
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2215173/Obama-believed-beaten-Romney-Denver-debate-ignoring-advice-aides.html

Go back to the DU now.

sugarcreek
10-16-2012, 16:18
There are a lot of good folks out there that are not radical, that gave Obama a shot in 2008, and gave him a BIG win. They believed in the malarchy of hope and change. They don't like what they've seen since, and will NOT give him their vote again.

Romney gets 330 plus electoral votes I think...

madbaumer
10-16-2012, 17:38
This Jewish family is voting Romney.

Member

NRA
GOA
JFOPL

Gundude
10-16-2012, 17:46
Well, he liberal troll has his post in for the day.

I will send Romney money now. Hadnt previously.http://i48.tinypic.com/345bqqp.gif

And this just in, polls continue to show romney surge, including women, BGstates and particularly OH where Romney is now ahead.What a coincidence that that happened at exactly the same time that polls became worth something. :whistling:

countrygun
10-16-2012, 17:59
What a coincidence that that happened at exactly the same time that polls became worth something. :whistling:

Not really. I, for one think the polls are still skewed in Obama's favor but there is only so much they can skew them without looking completely foolish when Romney wins.

pspez
10-16-2012, 18:03
I don't care....I am still voting for Romney.

Me too. And how you can even bring up a thread with non consequential bull**** with a President with a record as abysmal as Obamas. Wake up!

countrygun
10-16-2012, 18:06
Me too. And how you can even bring up a thread with non consequential bull**** with a President with a record as abysmal as Obamas. Wake up!

Relax just a drive-by desperation troll thread.

Trew2Life
10-16-2012, 18:08
There are a lot of good folks out there that are not radical, that gave Obama a shot in 2008, and gave him a BIG win. They believed in the malarchy of hope and change. They don't like what they've seen since, and will NOT give him their vote again.

Romney gets 330 plus electoral votes I think...

No way America elects Romney/Ryan. If America rejected a sitting U.S. Senator/POW and the national poster-face for America's soccer mom (a.k.a., McCain/Palin) no way in hell will they elect the draft-dodging/Medicaid killer ticket the GOP is presenting.

JFrame
10-16-2012, 18:31
This Jewish family is voting Romney.

Member

NRA
GOA
JFOPL


Our half-Jewish household is voting for Romney... http://www.kolobok.us/smiles/standart/good2.gif


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aircarver
10-16-2012, 18:32
No way America elects Romney/Ryan. If America rejected a sitting U.S. Senator/POW and the national poster-face for America's soccer mom (a.k.a., McCain/Palin) no way in hell will they elect the draft-dodging/Medicaid killer ticket the GOP is presenting.

Watch us.

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countrygun
10-16-2012, 18:33
No way America elects Romney/Ryan. If America rejected a sitting U.S. Senator/POW and the national poster-face for America's soccer mom (a.k.a., McCain/Palin) no way in hell will they elect the draft-dodging/Medicaid killer ticket the GOP is presenting.

Whatevah, :chatter:

rgregoryb
10-16-2012, 18:41
No way America elects Romney/Ryan. If America rejected a sitting U.S. Senator/POW and the national poster-face for America's soccer mom (a.k.a., McCain/Palin) no way in hell will they elect the draft-dodging/Medicaid killer ticket the GOP is presenting.

but last time a never had a job, community organizing, marxist, worthless know nothing got elected with help from the leech class..you can't take people's money from them and give it away without pissing off the producers eventually, so just sit back and watch

LASTRESORT20
10-16-2012, 19:00
Liberals/Socialists in Panic mode....rats are scared and jumping ship....

Debate is On! Here we go...

SIGlock
10-16-2012, 20:56
Trew2Life = Lie2Life

countrygun
10-16-2012, 21:02
Our half-Jewish household is voting for Romney... http://www.kolobok.us/smiles/standart/good2.gif


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There is a joke there.....

Nah

QNman
10-16-2012, 21:05
No way America elects Romney/Ryan. If America rejected a sitting U.S. Senator/POW and the national poster-face for America's soccer mom (a.k.a., McCain/Palin) no way in hell will they elect the draft-dodging/Medicaid killer ticket the GOP is presenting.

"Draft dodging"? Surely, you can back that up with something... perhaps on NBC...

QNman
10-16-2012, 21:07
Trew2Life = Lie2Life

Trew2Life = OWS / previously banned (or soon to be banned) screen name. No one jumpts headfirst into the cesspool of GTPI as quickly or as deeply.

QNman
10-16-2012, 21:08
No way America elects Romney/Ryan. If America rejected a sitting U.S. Senator/POW and the national poster-face for America's soccer mom (a.k.a., McCain/Palin) no way in hell will they elect the draft-dodging/Medicaid killer ticket the GOP is presenting.

Oh, and by the way... MediCaid is dying a slow, expensive death anyway. Even IF what you say is true.

Trew2Life
10-17-2012, 04:25
Did all you gun enthusiast and aficionados out there hear Mr Romney loud and clear? He said he signed the weapons ban as Governor of MA because it's what the gun owners wanted, a ban on assault weapons in exchange for more hunting and sporting privileges.

But Mr Romney's personal view of assault weapons, or "weapons of unusual lethality" (as he once described them) is quite clear.

That may very well be the FLIP that FLOPPED him right out of favor with the (rational and intelligent) 2A lovers.

JFrame
10-17-2012, 06:27
Did all you gun enthusiast and aficionados out there hear

Yes -- we all heard Obama openly declare that he wants to institute an assault weapons ban.


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aircarver
10-17-2012, 06:30
Yes -- we all heard Obama openly declare that he wants to institute an assault weapons ban.


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Yep. I can confirm that I heard that ! ...

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JFrame
10-17-2012, 06:32
Yep. I can confirm that I heard that ! ...

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Thank you for confirming that I didn't just imagine that...





:whistling:


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Goaltender66
10-17-2012, 06:37
From the Massachusetts Gun Owner's Action League (GOAL):

http://goal.org/newspages/romney.html

The Romney Record

A Look at Governor Mitt Romney's Record as Governor of Massachusetts as it Relates to the Gun Owners and Sportsmen of Our State

Prepared by: Gun Owners’ Action League (GOAL) - February 2007

Mitt Romney was Governor of Massachusetts from January 2, 2003 – January 4, 2007


General Comments

In the first months of the Romney administration the Governor isolated himself to all but a handful of close advisors most of whom came from the business community. This caused the Governor to make some rather serious political missteps that could have been avoided through better communications. However, relations dramatically improved and in the end, GOAL had more access to this administration than any other since the days of Governor Ed King in 1979.

The two major events that eventually led to this improved relationship were the raid on the Inland Fisheries & Game Fund in 2003 and a botched press conference/bill signing in 2004. Both situations are outlined in this report.

While at the time these events greatly angered GOAL members, the result was much improved access to the Governor’s office and his staff. During the following years, senior level Romney staffers met on a monthly basis with GOAL’s Executive Director to discuss and work on any issues relevant to GOAL’s members. This should not be taken as an indication that GOAL “controlled” the corner office, but rather that a very good working relationship was developed that benefited both parties.



More at the link, but I'll copy the relevant bit about "assault weapons." My emphasis added:

Chapter 150 of the Acts of 2004: An Act Further Regulating Certain Weapons

This is a perfect example of don’t believe in titles. The bill was the greatest victory for gun owners since the passage of the gun control laws in 1998 (Chapter 180 of the Acts of 1998). It was a reform bill totally supported by GOAL. Press and media stories around the country got it completely wrong when claimed the bill was an extension of the “assault weapon” ban that had sunset at the federal level. They could not have been more wrong. Unfortunately for the Governor, someone had also wrongly briefed him about the bill. As a result the Lt. Governor and the Governor made statements at the bill signing ceremony that angered GOAL members. The following is what the bill actually did:

1. Established the Firearm License Review Board (FLRB). The 1998 law created new criteria for disqualifying citizens for firearms licenses that included any misdemeanor punishable by more than two years even if no jail time was ever served.

For instance, a first conviction of operating a motor vehicle under the influence would result in the loss of your ability to own a handgun for life and long guns for a minimum of five years. This Board is now able to review cases under limited circumstances to restore licenses to individuals who meet certain criteria.

2. Mandated that a minimum of $50,000 of the licensing fees be used for the operation of the FLRB so that the Board would not cease operating under budget cuts.

3. Extended the term of the state’s firearm licenses from 4 years to 6 years.

4. Permanently attached the federal language concerning assault weapon exemptions in 18 USC 922 Appendix A to the Massachusetts assault weapons laws. This is the part that the media misrepresented.

In 1998 the Massachusetts legislature passed its own assault weapons ban (MGL Chapter 140, Section 131M). This ban did not rely on the federal language and contained no sunset clause. Knowing that we did not have the votes in 2004 to get rid of the state law, we did not want to loose all of the federal exemptions that were not in the state law so this new bill was amended to include them.

5. Re-instated a 90 day grace period for citizens who were trying to renew their firearm license. Over the past years, the government agencies in charge had fallen months behind in renewing licenses. At one point it was taking upwards of a year to renew a license. Under Massachusetts law, a citizen cannot have a firearm or ammunition in their home with an expired license.

6. Mandated that law enforcement must issue a receipt for firearms that are confiscated due to an expired license. Prior to this law, no receipts were given for property confiscated which led to accusations of stolen or lost firearms after they were confiscated by police.

7. Gave free license renewal for law enforcement officers who applied through their employing agency.

8. Changed the size and style of a firearm license to that of a driver’s license so that it would fit in a normal wallet. The original license was 3” x 4”.

9. Created stiffer penalties for armed home invaders.


Seems to me there's a lot of misinformation floating around. Given the political climate of MA, coupled with this contemporaneous report from GOAL, I'm not really seeing Romney as the out-and-out anti that Obama is.

aircarver
10-17-2012, 06:38
Thank you for confirming that I didn't just imagine that...





:whistling:


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Thank you for confirming what I thought I was confirming !

(I get bombarded with so much 'stuff' from the lefty trolls, that I need a life raft of sanity) .....:whistling:

:supergrin:

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DonGlock26
10-17-2012, 06:40
Yes -- we all heard Obama openly declare that he wants to institute an assault weapons ban.


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Actually, the voters are going to enact an assault president ban and vote Obama out of office. The middle class have been assaulted enough.

JFrame
10-17-2012, 06:41
Thank you for confirming what I thought I was confirming !

(I get bombarded with so much 'stuff' from the lefty trolls, that I need a life raft of sanity) .....:whistling:

:supergrin:


Looks like we have a "Chip n' Dale" routine going on... http://www.kolobok.us/smiles/big_standart/biggrin.gif


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aircarver
10-17-2012, 06:41
Seems to me there's a lot of misinformation floating around. Given the political climate of MA, coupled with this contemporaneous report from GOAL, I'm not really seeing Romney as the out-and-out anti that Obama is.

Political survival in the Sea of Taxachussetts ..... :whistling:

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aircarver
10-17-2012, 06:42
Looks like we have a "Chip n' Dale" routine going on... http://www.kolobok.us/smiles/big_standart/biggrin.gif


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[Snort]

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Mr Spock
10-17-2012, 06:52
:rofl:

I wonder what romney's neighbors cat thinks?

meow!

nursetim
10-17-2012, 08:14
Did all you gun enthusiast and aficionados out there hear Mr Romney loud and clear? He said he signed the weapons ban as Governor of MA because it's what the gun owners wanted, a ban on assault weapons in exchange for more hunting and sporting privileges.

But Mr Romney's personal view of assault weapons, or "weapons of unusual lethality" (as he once described them) is quite clear.

That may very well be the FLIP that FLOPPED him right out of favor with the (rational and intelligent) 2A lovers.

Do you really think mitt is politically suicidal? Or that his priority is another AWB? He will be busy with more vital problems we face, like obumo was his first term. Now if he gets a second, all bets are off, just like the prophet obumo, praise be to allah ackbar.

I hope mitt exceeds my expectations, but just the fact that he is not the prophet obumo, is all I really care about.

wjv
10-17-2012, 09:56
Trew2Life = ignore list. . .

JMag
10-17-2012, 10:10
The house of cards is owned by Obama. The crashing cards are the economy and Libya. Film at 11...

G29Reload
10-17-2012, 11:13
Local troll comments to the contrary notwithstanding, its apparent now the momentum is with Romney.

Outside of sound bites, Obama lost #2 last night.

Romney is ahead in swing states and Rasmussen has him up by 4 nationally.

The focus group Luntz had last night was devastating for teleprompter boy. He still can't defend his record.

Rush: He still can't re-create the 2008 media image. Completely on defense and won't speak on what his plans are for a second administration.

After the Biden Tourettes episode and the knockout first debate, Romney will not coast,,,but he probably could.

I'm voting in VA tomorrow and it will be for Romney. The momentum spells doom for the failed president's cult of personality...

countrygun
10-17-2012, 11:22
Thank you for confirming that I didn't just imagine that...





:whistling:


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No, you did hear that, you haven't fallen through the liberal rabbit hole. You are still rational.

sugarcreek
10-17-2012, 11:23
No way America elects Romney/Ryan. If America rejected a sitting U.S. Senator/POW and the national poster-face for America's soccer mom (a.k.a., McCain/Palin) no way in hell will they elect the draft-dodging/Medicaid killer ticket the GOP is presenting.

...your confidence. Your clarity... All will await your excuses, and spin. NOT.

Romney by a BUNCH of Electoral Votes.

Trew2Life
10-17-2012, 18:29
So, in other words, in any effort to get wanna-be President Romney's plans through the democratic run congress, wanna-be President Romney will bargain away gun rights, if both sides agree.

Yeah. Our 2A rights will be a whole lot securer with Mitt 'Let's make a deal' Romney in office.

AWB Debate Transcripts: (http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/OTUS/2012-presidential-debate-full-transcript-oct-16/story?id=17493848So)

QUESTION: President Obama, during the Democratic National Convention in 2008, you stated you wanted to keep AK-47s out of the hands of criminals. What has your administration done or planned to do to limit the availability of assault weapons?

OBAMA: We're a nation that believes in the Second Amendment, and I believe in the Second Amendment. We've got a long tradition of hunting and sportsmen and people who want to make sure they can protect themselves.

So my belief is that, (A), we have to enforce the laws we've already got, make sure that we're keeping guns out of the hands of criminals, those who are mentally ill. We've done a much better job in terms of background checks, but we've got more to do when it comes to enforcement.

But I also share your belief that weapons that were designed for soldiers in war theaters don't belong on our streets. And so what I'm trying to do is to get a broader conversation about how do we reduce the violence generally. Part of it is seeing if we can get an assault weapons ban reintroduced. But part of it is also looking at other sources of the violence. Because frankly, in my home town of Chicago, there's an awful lot of violence and they're not using AK-47s. They're using cheap hand guns.
And so what I want is a -- is a comprehensive strategy. Part of it is seeing if we can get automatic weapons that kill folks in amazing numbers out of the hands of criminals and the mentally ill. But part of it is also going deeper and seeing if we can get into these communities and making sure we catch violent impulses before they occur.

CROWLEY: Governor Romney, the question is about assault weapons, AK-47s.

ROMNEY: Yeah, I'm not in favor of new pieces of legislation on guns and taking guns away or making certain guns illegal. We, of course, don't want to have automatic weapons, and that's already illegal in this country to have automatic weapons. What I believe is we have to do, as the president mentioned towards the end of his remarks there, which is to make enormous efforts to enforce the gun laws that we have, and to change the culture of violence that we have.

CROWLEY: Governor, Governor, if I could, the question was about these assault weapons that once were once banned and are no longer banned.
I know that you signed an assault weapons ban when you were in Massachusetts, obviously, with this question, you no longer do support that. Why is that, given the kind of violence that we see sometimes with these mass killings? Why is it that you have changed your mind?

ROMNEY: Well, Candy, actually, in my state, the pro-gun folks and the anti-gun folks came together and put together a piece of legislation. And it's referred to as an assault weapon ban, but it had, at the signing of the bill, both the pro-gun and the anti-gun people came together, because it provided opportunities for both that both wanted.

There were hunting opportunities, for instance, that haven't previously been available and so forth, so it was a mutually agreed- upon piece of legislation. That's what we need more of, Candy. What we have right now in Washington is a place that's gridlocked.

CROWLEY: So I could -- if you could get people to agree to it, you would be for it?

countrygun
10-17-2012, 18:37
So, in other words, in any effort to get wanna-be President Romney's plans through the democratic run congress, wanna-be President Romney will bargain away gun rights, if both sides agree.

Yeah. Our 2A rights will be a whole lot securer with Mitt 'Let's make a deal' Romney in office.



Yup, they will



http://www.infowars.com/obamas-gun-control-record-sparking-sales-worry/
* 1994 to 2001 – Obama was on the board of the anti-gun Joyce Foundation. This foundation is the largest funding source for radical anti-gun groups in the country.
* 1996 – Obama supported a ban on the manufacture, sale and possession of handguns.
* 1999 – Obama proposed a 500 percent increase in the excise taxes on firearms and ammunition. This tax would effectively punish gun owners for buying guns and ammunition.
* 2003 – Obama voted in support of legislation that would have banned privately owned hunting shotguns, target rifles and black powder rifles in Illinois.
* 2004 – Obama voted against legislation intended to protect homeowners from prosecution in cases where they used a firearm to halt a home invasion.


And further,



"OBAMA: Let’s be honest. Mr. Keyes does not believe in common gun control measures like the assault weapons bill. Mr. Keyes does not believe in any limits from what I can tell with respect to the possession of guns, including assault weapons that have only one purpose, to kill people. I think it is a scandal that this president did not authorize a renewal of the assault weapons ban."
Source: Illinois Senate Debate #3: Barack Obama vs. Alan Keyes Oct 21, 2004


Then ther is his admitting he wants to ban "Military type weapons' and "cheap handguns" (shades of "saturday night specials")

He certainly isn't better than Romney so that leaves you with only the motive of wanting to help him continue on the path to socialism.

That is all that's left for a motive for you.

Acujeff
10-17-2012, 19:10
Trew2Life completely left out President Obama's actual record:
Fast and Furious and the subsequent cover-up (the biggest criminal political scandal in American history) which lead to the deaths of two US Agents (Border Patrol Agent Brian Terry and I.C.E. Agent Jaime Zapata) and 300 Mexican citizens. As most of the guns are still out there, it is expected there will be more deaths as they become known. It has also directly lead to Obama issuing orders to register gun purchases in the four southern border states, promote the UN Gun Ban Treaty, and use the ATF to harass legitimate gun dealers. He also appointed two anti-RKBA Supreme Court Justices and 125 anti-RKBA liberals to federal judgeships, including 25 to appellate courts.

Obama is running on an anti-2A record and platform. Obama is already campaigning on what he will do if he gets a second term. It will be a "mandate" for more regulations, executive orders and legislation governing every aspect of gun and ammo ownership and commerce. In addition, lots more anti-gun judges and up to four more anti-2A Supreme Court justices (which will make an anti-2A majority). Obama and the Democrats are already campaigning on re-instating the AWB, banning private gun transfers and sales, and regulating ammo purchases.

If you actually examine his record it is clear Romney signed no anti-2A bills while he was Gov of MA. He only reduced gun control, removed gun control language from bills, or signed pro-2A bills into law. So Romney has already been politically tested on the RKBA against a congress that was 85% anti-2A and it's all pro-2A which very encouraging for gun owners.

The NRA magazines published a link to Romney‘s actual entire record:

http://www.goal.org/newspages/romney.html

http://www.ammoland.com/2012/10/02/gun-owners-do-you-owe-mitt-romney-an-apology-for-your-doubts-must-read-report/#ixzz28AyBR021

Obama is the only candidate campaigning on re-instating the AWB and making more gun control. Only Obama supporters are claiming Romney is the threat to our RKBA.

In 2008 Romney was rated "B" by the NRA and Obama was rated "F". Since then, Romney has only become more pro-2A and Obama more anti-2A. Romney/Ryan are endorsed by the NRA for this election. Romney would be a much better President for gun owners than Obama.

It's up to individual gun-owners to to get the facts and make sure we're not scammed into giving Obama another term.

JimBianchi
10-17-2012, 21:51
Less than three weeks out and Gallup has Romney up by 6. (in a skewed poll that is +3 DEMS)

According to pundits smarter than ALL of us, no candidate that was up by 6 points this late in the game as ever lost his bid for the Presidency.

Let all say it together.....

President Romney!

Cavalry Doc
10-18-2012, 06:21
No way America elects Romney/Ryan. If America rejected a sitting U.S. Senator/POW and the national poster-face for America's soccer mom (a.k.a., McCain/Palin) no way in hell will they elect the draft-dodging/Medicaid killer ticket the GOP is presenting.

I think you are forgetting how poorly Barry has been doing over the last few years. The messiah that was going to heal the planet and stop the rise of the oceans. No one could live up to that hype unless he really was a messiah. Turns out he was just the empty suit we all thought he was.

The enthusiasm for Barry has died. The "white guilt" vote cannot be counted on this time around. A ham sandwich would have a good chance running against Barry.

It'll be close, with all those welfare obama phone weilders hoping for another 4 years, but the thrill is gone for Barry.

Will you be here after the election to be comedic relief for us?

series1811
10-18-2012, 07:15
Trew2Life = ignore list. . .

Not necessary. He will be gone an hour after the election is over.

aircarver
10-18-2012, 07:24
Not necessary. He will be gone an hour after the election is over.

Ain't that the truth ! ....

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nursetim
10-18-2012, 11:20
I think you are forgetting how poorly Barry has been doing over the last few years. The messiah that was going to heal the planet and stop the rise of the oceans. No one could live up to that hype unless he really was a messiah. Turns out he was just the empty suit we all thought he was.

The enthusiasm for Barry has died. The "white guilt" vote cannot be counted on this time around. A ham sandwich would have a good chance running against Barry.

It'll be close, with all those welfare obama phone weilders hoping for another 4 years, but the thrill is gone for Barry.

Will you be here after the election to be comedic relief for us?

Is that halal?

wjv
10-18-2012, 13:49
OMG Trew2Life was right!

There is a house of cards imploding. . He just picked the wrong house. .

R 52% - O 45%
R 206 electoral vote - O 201 electoral vote

I'd image that 'O' is REALLY unhappy today. . Considering he "won" the last debate :rofl: :rofl:

G29Reload
10-18-2012, 13:56
OMG Trew2Life was right!

There is a house of cards imploding. . He just picked the wrong house. .

R 52% - O 45%
R 206 electoral vote - O 201 electoral vote

I'd image that 'O' is REALLY unhappy today. . Considering he "won" the last debate :rofl: :rofl:

Its the new "win by losing" strategy.:rofl:

This whole thread and its bagdhad bob title show that trew2life, low post count and all, just showed up here as an operative of the campaign, DU or the daily kos.

The dead giveaway was some of his talking points were right out of the White House playbook. Almost verbatim Chris matthews, the daily press briefing, the same damn words and phrases.

I predict if Romney loses, he will disappear shortly thereafter and never be seen again. If O squeaks out a victory, he' come by to gloat, THEN disappear.

Mark my words...

G29Reload
10-18-2012, 13:56
Not necessary. He will be gone an hour after the election is over.

This.

chicago guy
10-18-2012, 14:10
I hate feeding the troll, but... Even if MR has a D- from the NRA he'd beat BO. I'm from BO's Hometown. He, as with many Chicago politicos, is extremely anti-gun rights. Don't tell me that BO hasn't done anything yet; that's true, but if he wins relection he'll go for any gun control law he can get. (Hey, here in Cook County the County president wants a five cents a bullet tax because guns cause so many gang bangers to end up in the county hospital for free medical care. AND the public is buying this crap.) BO is just a chip off the old anti-block.

Further -- are we really better off than 4 years ago? I think not.

MR gets my vote, right here in the middle of BO country

Trew2Life
10-18-2012, 15:53
Here's the kicker ... If Romney wins, I'll be here for the next 4 years making fun of his ongoing flip-flops and mis-haps. When Obama wins, well, you don't want to think about that. Win/Win, I win.

My co-workers and I had the opportunity to volunteer our time toward the United Way. A group of us, 16, helped to clean up and landscape the home of a elderly couple. A modest home, on a wooded lot. The wife suffers from a health issue has limited mobility. The husband spent most of his time keeping up the interior of the home. The yard work and exterior work had fallen behind.

It was a gorgeous day, so the raking and weeding of last seasons foilage wasn't as bad as it seemed. We helped wash his windows, finish some exterioring painting, and prepared the home for the coming winter season. One of the team even helped the woman activate her goverment phone. Which was very important for her to keep track with her church events.

This couple was so thankful for our help that day. I'll never forget the tears of appreciation.

I wonder how they'll make it under a Romney administration. Me ... I'll be alright. I have options and alternatives. People like that I worry about. They're part of the 47% that Romney doesn't care about but for all they know they're just an elderly couple living out their twilight years together. They may even support Romney. I don't know.

aircarver
10-18-2012, 15:57
You want a violin to go with that ? ... :upeyes:

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Goaltender66
10-18-2012, 16:02
So you're saying you won't help people in need if Romney is elected President?

Wow you're bitter.

Acujeff
10-18-2012, 16:07
Here's the kicker ... If Romney wins, I'll be here for the next 4 years making fun of his ongoing flip-flops and mis-haps. When Obama wins, well, you don't want to think about that. Win/Win, I win.

My co-workers and I had the opportunity to volunteer our time toward the United Way.

That was Crews court ordered community service. Did he say he "kicked her"? No wonder she had tears in her eyes!

Just ribbing you Trew. We really appreciate your ability to be consistently outraged at Romney pro-2A record and OK with Obama's anti-2A record while pretending to be a pro-2A gun owner in MD. Attaboy!

Snowman92D
10-18-2012, 16:14
They may even support Romney. I don't know.

Suuuure... :whistling:

If they were Romney supporters you'd have vandalized their home, instead of helping to fix it up. Who you trying to kid?

countrygun
10-18-2012, 16:23
That was Crews court ordered community service. Did he say he "kicked her"? No wonder she had tears in her eyes!

Just ribbing you Trew. We really appreciate your ability to be consistently outraged at Romney pro-2A record and OK with Obama's anti-2A record while pretending to be a pro-2A gun owner in MD. Attaboy!

Kinda like Madonna lecturing on chasitity, isn't he?

still amusing to watch

Trew2Life
10-18-2012, 16:25
We really appreciate your ability to be consistently outraged at Romney pro-2A record and OK with Obama's anti-2A record while pretending to be a pro-2A gun owner in MD. Attaboy!

Mitt being 'Pro 2A' is a matter of subjective opinion. I'm NOT 'ok' with many of the democrats position on guns. Not just Obama. But, I'm not going to vote with my gun. I love my guns and in the worst case scenario, they'd have to come take them from me ... physically. Yeah. Good luck with that.

I simply don't believe Mitt Romney is good for the middle class. Nope, I'm not gonna fall for the 'banana in the tail pipe' trick. Obama obviously isn't any better in your opinion, but I happen to know for a fact, the economy does better under democratic administrations.

countrygun
10-18-2012, 16:28
Mitt being 'Pro 2A' is a matter of subjective opinion. I'm NOT 'ok' with many of the democrats position on guns. Not just Obama. But, I'm not going to vote with my gun. I love my guns and in the worst case scenario, they'd have to come take them from me ... physically. Yeah. Good luck with that.

I simply don't believe Mitt Romney is good for the middle class. Nope, I'm not gonna fall for the 'banana in the tail pipe' trick. Obama obviously isn't any better in your opinion, but I happen to know for a fact, the economy does better under democratic administrations.


Yup Jimmy Carter had a good thing going before Reagan got elected and ruined it.

Truly a tool you are

Acujeff
10-18-2012, 16:58
Mitt being 'Pro 2A' is a matter of subjective opinion. I'm NOT 'ok' with many of the democrats position on guns. Not just Obama. But, I'm not going to vote with my gun. I love my guns and in the worst case scenario, they'd have to come take them from me ... physically. Yeah. Good luck with that.

I simply don't believe Mitt Romney is good for the middle class. Nope, I'm not gonna fall for the 'banana in the tail pipe' trick. Obama obviously isn't any better in your opinion, but I happen to know for a fact, the economy does better under democratic administrations.

That would be believable if you ever factually and critically analyzed Obama's record. You've high jacked dozens of threads and have done nothing but make false claims about Romney. No one believes you are actually a gun owner in MD. Hiding behind subjective opinion does not make you right. It makes you incredibly uncredible.

Romney's record is a documented fact. Only Democrats believe facts are subjective and whatever you make up is true. Only liberal democrats believe Romney is a threat to the RKBA, economy and middle class and Obama gets a pass and a 2nd term - and that number is diminishing as we get closer to election day.

Trew2Life
10-18-2012, 18:06
That would be believable if you ever factually and critically analyzed Obama's record. You've high jacked dozens of threads and have done nothing but make false claims about Romney. No one believes you are actually a gun owner in MD. Hiding behind subjective opinion does not make you right. It makes you incredibly uncredible.

Romney's record is a documented fact. Only Democrats believe facts are subjective and whatever you make up is true. Only liberal democrats believe Romney is a threat to the RKBA, economy and middle class and Obama gets a pass and a 2nd term - and that number is diminishing as we get closer to election day.

Not quite sure what 'high jacked' dozen of threads mean ?? If you found my opinions strong enough to reply, well .. I guess that's a good thing for a FORUM.

I have not stated any opinions or criticisms that aren't any less creditable than the claims made by others, yourself included.

It's a matter of perspective and experience.
My perspective is different than yours. Perhaps you should look more closely at your local/state officials.

I'm not voting with my gun. I'm voting with my wallet and it does better when democrats are in office. I'm voting with my daughters and they deserve better than Mitt Romney legislating their reproductive and health care issues.

AS A TAX PAYING CITIZEN AND HONORABLLY DISCHARGED MEMBER OF THE ARMY OF THESE UNITED STATES I AM NOT VOTING FOR A DRAFT-DODGER IN THIS ELECTION.

If the alternative means I must vote for Obama ... so be it. You do what you gotta do.

countrygun
10-18-2012, 18:51
http://i1231.photobucket.com/albums/ee518/CountryG/whatme.png

Ruble Noon
10-18-2012, 19:22
Mitt being 'Pro 2A' is a matter of subjective opinion. I'm NOT 'ok' with many of the democrats position on guns. Not just Obama. But, I'm not going to vote with my gun. I love my guns and in the worst case scenario, they'd have to come take them from me ... physically. Yeah. Good luck with that.

I simply don't believe Mitt Romney is good for the middle class. Nope, I'm not gonna fall for the 'banana in the tail pipe' trick. Obama obviously isn't any better in your opinion, but I happen to know for a fact, the economy does better under democratic administrations.

Ever heard of Jimmy Carter?

Trew2Life
10-18-2012, 19:55
Ever heard of data?

http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQzl5718gytR6kL-I_ssgpwZc3o4wDMskxCjIaUNKCwCu9C5g7hIJIGzr76Bg

Trew2Life
10-18-2012, 19:56
http://dpc.senate.gov/docs/fs-111-1-159_files/image002.gif

countrygun
10-18-2012, 20:00
I love reading how you guys are selling yourselfs out in favor of the Non-Obama candidate with little to no support among Jews, women, latinos, veterans, elderly, blacks, gays, union workers, ... the 'illegals', the deceased, the entitlement class and all the others who will be committing voter fraud come this November.

It's going to be a hard pill for you to swallow come election night results.

I'm going to love Mitt Romney's concession speech.

I think we are duty bound to bump this thread once in a while. Until Nov7 then we can appeal to have that post made a sticky

:rofl::rofl:

happyguy
10-18-2012, 20:06
Nope, I'm not gonna fall for the 'banana in the tail pipe' trick.

Get banana's in your tailpipe often, do you?

Regards,
Happyguy :)

domin8ss
10-18-2012, 20:09
Lol, house of cards falling. New Gallup poll just released showed Romney is still surging. He's up by 7% over Obama. That's well over the margin of error of +/-2%.

aircarver
10-18-2012, 21:25
Get banana's in your tailpipe often, do you?


I'd go with a potato, myself ..... :wavey:

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Gunnut 45/454
10-18-2012, 22:53
I see Flintlicker brought another troll over from the DU! I guess he couldn't stand all the heat in the kitchen! Welcome troll prepare for an arse whoopin and please let your ' mommy know your playing on an adult site ! We dont want to here that she didn't give you permission to be here. Can we call her and make sure your allowed to access adult sites? I sure hope the Mods are verifing age! As no one under 18 shouldn't be allowed in the PI section since they can't vote!:supergrin:

Armchair Commando
10-18-2012, 23:24
Romney Is Attacked by His Father's Longtime Aide. (http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/10/15/romney-is-attacked-by-his-fathers-longtime-aide/)

A longtime aide to George W. Romney issued a harshly worded critique of Mitt Romney, accusing him of shifting political positions in “erratic and startling ways” and failing to live up to the distinguished record of his father, the former governor of Michigan.

WOW! Not exactly what you want to hear about the GOP candidate on the eve of a critical 2nd presidential debate and less than 3 weeks to the election.

I just sent romnney another 250 bucks.

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Trew2Life
10-19-2012, 19:51
Oouch! That's got to hurt! Why would red state Utah's largest cirulation (The Salt Lake Tribune (http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/opinion/55019844-82/endorsement-romney-obama-president.html.csp)) endorse Obama?

Editorial:
From his embrace of the party’s radical right wing, to subsequent portrayals of himself as a moderate champion of the middle class, Romney has raised the most frequently asked question of the campaign: "Who is this guy, really, and what in the world does he truly believe?"

The evidence suggests no clear answer, or at least one that would survive Romney’s next speech or sound bite. Politicians routinely tailor their words to suit an audience. Romney, though, is shameless, lavishing vastly diverse audiences with words, any words, they would trade their votes to hear.

countrygun
10-19-2012, 20:00
Oouch! That's got to hurt! Why would red state Utah's largest cirulation (The Salt Lake Tribune (http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/opinion/55019844-82/endorsement-romney-obama-president.html.csp)) endorse Obama?

Editorial:
From his embrace of the party’s radical right wing, to subsequent portrayals of himself as a moderate champion of the middle class, Romney has raised the most frequently asked question of the campaign: "Who is this guy, really, and what in the world does he truly believe?"

The evidence suggests no clear answer, or at least one that would survive Romney’s next speech or sound bite. Politicians routinely tailor their words to suit an audience. Romney, though, is shameless, lavishing vastly diverse audiences with words, any words, they would trade their votes to hear.

A paper owned by a liberal???

I am shocked, I tell you Shocked!:wow:

Foxtrotx1
10-19-2012, 20:00
Are we talking about the same Romney? The one up 7 points in the Gallup polls?

countrygun
10-19-2012, 20:01
Are we talking about the same Romney? The one up 7 points in the Gallup polls?

Yah the one not liked by a liberal newspaper owner in Utah:yawn:

Trew2Life
10-19-2012, 20:17
Listen to yourselves try to rationalize. A 'liberal newspaper'. In a red state. The largest circulation in the state. How do they expect to stay in business supporting a democrat in the red zone? How have they been doing it all this time? (They supported Obama in 08 too)

countrygun
10-19-2012, 20:27
Listen to yourselves try to rationalize. A 'liberal newspaper'. In a red state. The largest circulation in the state. How do they expect to stay in business supporting a democrat in the red zone? How have they been doing it all this time? (They supported Obama in 08 too)


Those straws are getting tougher to find when you need one to grasp, aren't they?

A liberal paper that sendorsed a liberal candidate last time is endorsing him again. To you this is news?

Whats a matter, they don't live up to your stereotype of Utah?

Trew2Life
10-19-2012, 20:57
What's facinating is that Utah is the most reddest of red states. 68% claim affiliation with the LDS. In Salt Lake City, LDS affiliation is 40%. GOP and Independent representation account for 75%, statewide. In SLC its 55%. This is the place you call 'liberal'. SLC is a microcosm of America at large.
Your views are so way out on the fringe I don't know how you keep holding on.

One by One the cards do fall in Romney glass house.

countrygun
10-19-2012, 21:11
What's facinating is that Utah is the most reddest of red states. 68% claim affiliation with the LDS. In Salt Lake City, LDS affiliation is 40%. GOP and Independent representation account for 75%, statewide. In SLC its 55%. This is the place you call 'liberal'. SLC is a microcosm of America at large.
Your views are so way out on the fringe I don't know how you keep holding on.

One by One the cards do fall in Romney glass house.

Hey Einstein, according to your citation that paper endorsed Obama in the last election YET THE STATE VOTED REPUBLICAN.

You are so full of FAIL it is pathetic.

Acujeff
10-19-2012, 21:12
Oouch! That's got to hurt! Why would red state Utah's largest cirulation (The Salt Lake Tribune (http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/opinion/55019844-82/endorsement-romney-obama-president.html.csp)) endorse Obama?


So what. Did Utah's vote go for Obama in 2008? Does anyone claim Obama will win Utah in Nov?

Progressive paper endorsing Obama is not news. Progressive papers endorsing Romney is news.

Progressive Newspapers Orlando Sentinel and Nashville Tennessean Endorses Romney

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/opinion/os-ed-endorsement-president-mitt-romney-101912-20121018,0,6927962.story

http://www.tennessean.com/article/20121018/OPINION01/310180040/Time-another-change?odyssey=mod%27newswell%27text%27Opinion%27p&gcheck=1&nclick_check=1


Do you hear that Trew? It's the sound of Obama's house of cards that's collapsing.

kirgi08
10-20-2012, 07:28
:whip:

jakebrake
10-20-2012, 07:29
Romney Is Attacked by His Father's Longtime Aide. (http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/10/15/romney-is-attacked-by-his-fathers-longtime-aide/)

A longtime aide to George W. Romney issued a harshly worded critique of Mitt Romney, accusing him of shifting political positions in “erratic and startling ways” and failing to live up to the distinguished record of his father, the former governor of Michigan.

WOW! Not exactly what you want to hear about the GOP candidate on the eve of a critical 2nd presidential debate and less than 3 weeks to the election.

which re-tread is this?

series1811
10-20-2012, 07:40
Oouch! That's got to hurt! Why would red state Utah's largest cirulation (The Salt Lake Tribune (http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/opinion/55019844-82/endorsement-romney-obama-president.html.csp)) endorse Obama?

Editorial:
From his embrace of the party’s radical right wing, to subsequent portrayals of himself as a moderate champion of the middle class, Romney has raised the most frequently asked question of the campaign: "Who is this guy, really, and what in the world does he truly believe?"

The evidence suggests no clear answer, or at least one that would survive Romney’s next speech or sound bite. Politicians routinely tailor their words to suit an audience. Romney, though, is shameless, lavishing vastly diverse audiences with words, any words, they would trade their votes to hear.

Trew2Life
Join Date: Sep 2012

Providence
10-20-2012, 07:47
Next we will hear that the Atlanta Journal endorsed O. In a red state! It's over now! No chance Georgia will go for Romney now! And how about the Miami Herald? Florida is going for O. No chance!

You can't do any better than that? So you are excited about another 4 years of O.? He'll do a lot better next time, won't he? He won't destroy the economy next time, will he? Can't say anything good about O., so you have to invent stuff about the evil Mormon. Boy, you Dem.s are really open minded!

aircarver
10-20-2012, 08:03
Trew2Life
Join Date: Sep 2012

Disappearance date: Nov 7,2012 .....:upeyes:

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QNman
10-20-2012, 08:42
which re-tread is this?

Still assessing... nasty, biting, no sense of humor... HUGE leftist fanboy... barely narrows the field, unfortunately.

But there's little doubt this isn't his first screen name here.

JFrame
10-20-2012, 09:05
Still assessing... nasty, biting, no sense of humor... HUGE leftist fanboy... barely narrows the field, unfortunately.

But there's little doubt this isn't his first screen name here.


Boy -- ain't that the truth...


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kirgi08
10-20-2012, 09:33
I see youse finally got outta the rack.'08. :poke:

JFrame
10-20-2012, 09:39
I see youse finally got outta the rack.'08. :poke:

:rofl:

Hey, man -- work hard, sleep hard... :supergrin:


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kirgi08
10-20-2012, 10:01
I thought youse was retarded like me/military term folks.D go hunting,I've been covering for your civilian slacking.'08. :whistling:

JFrame
10-20-2012, 10:03
I thought youse was retarded like me/military term folks.D go hunting,I've been covering for your civilian slacking.'08. :whistling:


Hey, R -- I know you're leading the fat life that we're all dreaming about... :cool:


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kirgi08
10-20-2012, 10:23
Not really D,it's all paid for though.I've lost 80% income since 08,Kats lost 90% since.'08.

douggmc
10-20-2012, 10:46
I've lost 80% income since 08,Kats lost 90% since.'08.

Why .. ?

JFrame
10-20-2012, 10:55
Not really D,it's all paid for though.I've lost 80% income since 08,Kats lost 90% since.'08.

Sorry, man... :frown:

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kirgi08
10-20-2012, 11:46
Why .. ?

The economy,life happens.'08.

Angry Fist
10-20-2012, 18:13
The economy,life happens.'08.
Yup. It's a big ****ty deal here, too.

series1811
10-21-2012, 08:36
Not really D,it's all paid for though.I've lost 80% income since 08,Kats lost 90% since.'08.

My brother is a CPA in the largest accounting firm in our state. He says almost every business they do the accounting for has had steadily declining profits since Obama took office and many have gone out of business.

They are all hoarding capital, in case they have to survive another four years of Obama, instead of investing it and trying to expand their business. Many still are unsure of what their expenses under Obama care will really be and aren't doing anything until they are sure.

Providence
10-21-2012, 08:41
My brother is a CPA in the largest accounting firm in our state. He says almost every business they do the accounting for has had steadily declining profits since Obama took office and many have gone out of business.

They are all hoarding capital, in case they have to survive another four years of Obama, instead of investing it and trying to expand their business. Many still are unsure of what their expenses under Obama care will really be and aren't doing anything until they are sure.

This really is a BFD!

aircarver
10-21-2012, 08:47
This really is a BFD!

Once the commies are out on their asses, the economy will take off on it's own.... like it has been suppressed for four years ....

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series1811
10-21-2012, 08:50
Once the commies are out on their asses, the economy will take off on it's own.... like it has been suppressed for four years ....

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And, that's the thing. People act like Romney has to work miracles to get our economy going again. He doesn't. He just has to get out of the way, and get the government out of the way.

kirgi08
10-21-2012, 10:35
My brother is a CPA in the largest accounting firm in our state. He says almost every business they do the accounting for has had steadily declining profits since Obama took office and many have gone out of business.

They are all hoarding capital, in case they have to survive another four years of Obama, instead of investing it and trying to expand their business. Many still are unsure of what their expenses under Obama care will really be and aren't doing anything until they are sure.

Down ladder.'08. :sad:

Trew2Life
10-22-2012, 21:24
"You mention the Navy, for example, and the fact that we have fewer ships than we did in 1916. "Well Governor, we also have fewer horses and bayonets," said the president. "We have these things called aircraft carriers and planes land on them. We have ships that go underwater, nuclear submarines." Obama drove the point home, "It's not a game of Battleship where we're counting ships, it's 'What are our priorities?'"

Does Romney even understand what military capabilities and advancing technologies are? He basically agrees with the essential elements of the Obama foreign policy. He hasn't a clue and his performance in the third and final debate clearly shows this.

certifiedfunds
10-22-2012, 21:32
"You mention the Navy, for example, and the fact that we have fewer ships than we did in 1916. "Well Governor, we also have fewer horses and bayonets," said the president. "We have these things called aircraft carriers and planes land on them. We have ships that go underwater, nuclear submarines." Obama drove the point home, "It's not a game of Battleship where we're counting ships, it's 'What are our priorities?'"

Does Romney even understand what military capabilities and advancing technologies are? He basically agrees with the essential elements of the Obama foreign policy. He hasn't a clue and his performance in the third and final debate clearly shows this.

Does Obama even understand that to pay off the national debt he first has to stop increasing it?

Snowman92D
10-22-2012, 21:34
Does Obama even understand that to pay off the national debt he first has to stop increasing it?

:okie:

certifiedfunds
10-22-2012, 21:35
My brother is a CPA in the largest accounting firm in our state. He says almost every business they do the accounting for has had steadily declining profits since Obama took office and many have gone out of business.

They are all hoarding capital, in case they have to survive another four years of Obama, instead of investing it and trying to expand their business. Many still are unsure of what their expenses under Obama care will really be and aren't doing anything until they are sure.

Taxes have steadily increased. To decrease them small businesses need depreciation. Problem is, we aren't buying crap because we don't know what tomorrow brings.

QNman
10-22-2012, 21:41
Taxes have steadily increased. To decrease them small businesses need depreciation. Problem is, we aren't buying crap because we don't know what tomorrow brings.

Amen, brother.

Trew2Life
10-22-2012, 22:06
Does Obama even understand that to pay off the national debt he first has to stop increasing it?

Does the Romney/Ryan campaign understand that losing 3/4 debates is not a good thing.

countrygun
10-22-2012, 22:11
Does the Romney/Ryan campaign understand that losing 3/4 debates is not a good thing.

SPYDER, I knew it was you, The only person that dumb. It has to be your other screen name.

Acujeff
10-22-2012, 22:12
"You mention the Navy, for example, and the fact that we have fewer ships than we did in 1916. "Well Governor, we also have fewer horses and bayonets," said the president. "We have these things called aircraft carriers and planes land on them. We have ships that go underwater, nuclear submarines." Obama drove the point home, "It's not a game of Battleship where we're counting ships, it's 'What are our priorities?'"

Does Romney even understand what military capabilities and advancing technologies are? He basically agrees with the essential elements of the Obama foreign policy. He hasn't a clue and his performance in the third and final debate clearly shows this.

Aren't Aircraft carriers and nuclear submarines in the navy? They cost a lot more than horses and bayonets. How is Obama going to pay for them if he cuts the military budget and bankrupts the US? Obama wants a neutered pre-WWI military. Romney wants US out of debt and a military equipped and prepared to handle the threats that come up.

Trew2Life
10-22-2012, 22:28
Aren't Aircraft carriers and nuclear submarines in the navy? They cost a lot more than horses and bayonets. How is Obama going to pay for them if he cuts the military budget and bankrupts the US?

Get the transcripts. Obama want to 'maintain' our military superiority and budget, (not cut) which - as noted - is more than the top 10 nations, combined. I'll adhere to the recommendations of the Joint Chiefs and the Pentagon over you arm chair Admirals any day.

Obama wants a neutered pre-WWI military. Romney wants US out of debt and a military equipped and prepared to handle the threats that come up.

But the problem is, as noted, that he can't tell you how he's going to pay for it. Go to the website. Go to the website and read biased blogs and editorials praising the non-existent math and extreme practicality of the Romney budget.

countrygun
10-22-2012, 22:30
Get the transcripts. Obama want to 'maintain' our military superiority and budget, (not cut) which - as noted - is more than the top 10 nations, combined. I'll adhere to the recommendations of the Joint Chiefs and the Pentagon over you arm chair Admirals any day.



But the problem is, as noted, that he can't tell you how he's going to pay for it. Go to the website. Go to the website and read biased blogs and editorials praising the non-existent math and extreme practicality of the Romney budget.

So far obama's math adds up to seventeen-trillion

Acujeff
10-22-2012, 23:37
Get the transcripts. Obama want to 'maintain' our military superiority and budget, (not cut) which - as noted - is more than the top 10 nations, combined. I'll adhere to the recommendations of the Joint Chiefs and the Pentagon over you arm chair Admirals any day.

But the problem is, as noted, that he can't tell you how he's going to pay for it. Go to the website. Go to the website and read biased blogs and editorials praising the non-existent math and extreme practicality of the Romney budget.

The only thing Obama knows about the military is that he spends like a drunken sailor.

427
10-23-2012, 00:00
Get the transcripts. Obama want to 'maintain' our military superiority and budget, (not cut) which - as noted - is more than the top 10 nations, combined. I'll adhere to the recommendations of the Joint Chiefs and the Pentagon over you arm chair Admirals any day.You're the same guy who judges Mittens over not going to vietnam, yet won't say anything about Bill Clinton's lack of service when challenged, so don't get all self-righteous.



But the problem is, as noted, that he can't tell you how he's going to pay for it. Go to the website. Go to the website and read biased blogs and editorials praising the non-existent math and extreme practicality of the Romney budget.
Obama can't/won't say how he's paying for any of it, either. He's been operating w/out a budget since 2010. In fact, his budget got voted down 99-0 in the democratic controlled senate and 414-0 in the house earlier this year.

pspez
10-23-2012, 00:18
I am not only voting for Romney, I will be sending him more money due to the liberal's post.


Me too!

happyguy
10-23-2012, 03:40
"You mention the Navy, for example, and the fact that we have fewer ships than we did in 1916. "Well Governor, we also have fewer horses and bayonets," said the president. "We have these things called aircraft carriers and planes land on them. We have ships that go underwater, nuclear submarines." Obama drove the point home, "It's not a game of Battleship where we're counting ships, it's 'What are our priorities?'"

Does Romney even understand what military capabilities and advancing technologies are? He basically agrees with the essential elements of the Obama foreign policy. He hasn't a clue and his performance in the third and final debate clearly shows this.

1. The Marines still use bayonets.

2. With the increased efficiency inherent in modern weapons come the greater devastation of the loss of one of them. I will try to make this as simple as possible.

http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2012/05/25/this_week_at_war_does_the_us_need_more_aircraft_carriers

If I'm not mistaken the U.S. had 33 aircraft carriers at the end of WW II. The loss of one would have reduced our capability by approximately 1/33. I say approximately because there were three classes afloat and each class varied in capability.

Today we have 11 aircraft carriers. Yes they have many times the capability of the WW II vintage flat tops, but because we have so few, the loss of one or two would have much more impact.

In 1987 the U.S. Navy consisted of 584 ships.

In 2012 that has fallen to 285.

Why? Well, with the dissolution of the Soviet Union, we don't really need a 600 ship Navy. Obviously the Russians and the Chinese are our friends. Now that the world is such a safe place we can spend all the money we have saved by reducing our fleet to give free stuff to all the poor downtrodden "folks" in the neighborhoods.


Speaking to aircraft carriers specifically, you only need a few of the modern iteration...until you lose one.

Who cares about defending our freedom when we can get free stuff?

Regards,
Happyguy :)

Angry Fist
10-23-2012, 07:58
More carriers, please.

kirgi08
10-23-2012, 08:05
:whip:

kirgi08
10-23-2012, 08:26
More Subs.'08.

Providence
10-23-2012, 14:04
"You mention the Navy, for example, and the fact that we have fewer ships than we did in 1916. "Well Governor, we also have fewer horses and bayonets," said the president. "We have these things called aircraft carriers and planes land on them. We have ships that go underwater, nuclear submarines." Obama drove the point home, "It's not a game of Battleship where we're counting ships, it's 'What are our priorities?'"[/B]
I've been seeing this quote all day, but strangely the commentators have been arguing you point. In fact, just the opposite. This quote shows how out of touch Obama is. How he doesn't have command of the facts. And it shows just how desperate he is. Rude too, now that I think about it.

series1811
10-23-2012, 14:39
You're the same guy who judges Mittens over not going to vietnam, yet won't say anything about Bill Clinton's lack of service when challenged, so don't get all self-righteous.

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Not to mention Obama's lack of service, and inconsistent statements about his selective service registration (I registered in Hawaii, I registered in Connecticut, one or the other).

certifiedfunds
10-23-2012, 14:49
I looked back at the thread title. Romney's House of Cards?

Seriously?

Obama's never even had a real job. :rofl:

countrygun
10-23-2012, 15:08
I looked back at the thread title. Romney's House of Cards?

Seriously?

Obama's never even had a real job. :rofl:

If it "collapsed" any further I would predict he was going to win by a landslide instead of an 'average" win.


:rofl::rofl:

certifiedfunds
10-23-2012, 15:12
If it "collapsed" any further I would predict he was going to win by a landslide instead of an 'average" win.


:rofl::rofl:

I'm no Romney fan but I sure would like to see Obama leave the office with a humiliating defeat. He and his ilk need to be pushed back into the shadows of society.

Trew2Life
10-25-2012, 17:51
It's not so much the endorsement as it is the critique of the misguided and misinformed Romney foreign policy.

The Romney house of cards is wobbling ...... stay tuned!

Colin Powell Endorses President Obama - YouTube

countrygun
10-25-2012, 17:55
It's not so much the endorsement as it is the critique of the misguided and misinformed Romney foreign policy.

The Romney house of cards is wobbling ...... stay tuned!

Colin Powell Endorses President Obama - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A4xkGTPfGVk)

Clint Eastwood's commercial trumps that.

:tongueout:PHHHHHHT

certifiedfunds
10-25-2012, 18:05
It's not so much the endorsement as it is the critique of the misguided and misinformed Romney foreign policy.

The Romney house of cards is wobbling ...... stay tuned!

Colin Powell Endorses President Obama - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A4xkGTPfGVk)

His endorsement is straight up racism. That's all ya got?


Besides does anyone care what Colin Powell thinks anymore?

Providence
10-25-2012, 18:11
It's not so much the endorsement as it is the critique of the misguided and misinformed Romney foreign policy.

The Romney house of cards is wobbling ...... stay tuned!

Colin Powell Endorses President Obama - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A4xkGTPfGVk)

I just got it! You are being funny! Colin Powell? Now that's funny!

Trew2Life
10-25-2012, 18:24
His endorsement is straight up racism. That's all ya got?
Besides does anyone care what Colin Powell thinks anymore?

I saw that one coming from a mile away.

Trew2Life
10-25-2012, 18:26
I just got it! You are being funny! Colin Powell? Now that's funny!

Yeah. LMAO. LOL. ROFL ... and to the undecided/independent voters who are going to decide this election, I hope they find it funny too.

countrygun
10-25-2012, 18:30
Yeah. LMAO. LOL. ROFL ... and to the undecided/independent voters who are going to decide this election, I hope they find it funny too.

Remind me again...who did Powell support the last time?

Not news this time. why would this be of importance when it isn't a change for him????

You are desperate, aren't you?

certifiedfunds
10-25-2012, 19:00
I saw that one coming from a mile away.

Well, he admitted it. Endorsed him because he's a black dude.

countrygun
10-25-2012, 19:05
Yeah. LMAO. LOL. ROFL ... and to the undecided/independent voters who are going to decide this election, I hope they find it funny too.

I have a hunch they knew Powell supported him last time and it didn't put them in Obama's camp this time or they wouldn't be "undecided" now would they?

whatta genius.:upeyes:

Providence
10-25-2012, 19:20
It's not so much the endorsement as it is the critique of the misguided and misinformed Romney foreign policy.

The Romney house of cards is wobbling ...... stay tuned!

Colin Powell Endorses President Obama - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A4xkGTPfGVk)Let me get this straight, Romney's campaign is collapsing because Colin Power endorsed Romney? Really? Obama has improved the economy? Obama's foreign policy is working?

countrygun
10-25-2012, 19:24
Let me get this straight, Romney's campaign is collapsing because Colin Power endorsed Romney? Really? Obama has improved the economy? Obama's foreign policy is working?

I think he is counting on the huge surprise that Powell is endorsing Obama----again. It's going to pull in the "amnesiac vote"


:rofl:

Trew2Life
10-28-2012, 06:38
His endorsement is straight up racism.

Republican Party is 'full of racists,' claims ex-Colin Powell staffer.

"My party is full of racists," said Colin Powell's former chief of staff on MSNBC last night. Lawrence Wilkerson was responding to a claim that Powell only endorsed the president because both men are black, made by Romney campaign surrogate John Sununu (and GT'er Certifiedfunds).

Wilkerson said that the anger directed at Obama from "a considerable portion" of the GOP has "nothing to do with his competence as commander-in-chief and president, and everything to do with the color of his skin." He then branded that attitude "despicable."

Lawrence Wilkerson: 'My Party Is Full Of Racists' - YouTube

Snowman92D
10-28-2012, 07:31
Let me know when it's November 6th. :yawn:

Providence
10-28-2012, 07:37
Republican Party is 'full of racists,' claims ex-Colin Powell staffer.

"My party is full of racists," said Colin Powell's former chief of staff on MSNBC last night. Lawrence Wilkerson was responding to a claim that Powell only endorsed the president because both men are black, made by Romney campaign surrogate John Sununu (and GT'er Certifiedfunds).

Wilkerson said that the anger directed at Obama from "a considerable portion" of the GOP has "nothing to do with his competence as commander-in-chief and president, and everything to do with the color of his skin." He then branded that attitude "despicable."

Lawrence Wilkerson: 'My Party Is Full Of Racists' - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jaW92c2hqNs&feature=player_embedded)This changes everything! I have now forgotten the economy, loss of liberty, fast and furious, Bebghazi, and too many more scandals to list. Since I am in fear of being called a racist by someone I don't even know, I will now vote for O. All I ask is that you don't call a racist! Please!

(Do I need a sarcasm symbol)

happyguy
10-28-2012, 08:10
It's not so much the endorsement as it is the critique of the misguided and misinformed Romney foreign policy.

The Romney house of cards is wobbling ...... stay tuned!

Colin Powell Endorses President Obama - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A4xkGTPfGVk)

Colin Powell out McCains McCain, AGAIN!:rofl::rofl:

Regards,
Happyguy :)

Providence
10-28-2012, 09:31
I forgot to mention foreign policy! Sorry. This election is a referendum on Obama's foreign policy, not Romney's. o. Is the incumbent. So, how has Obama's foreign policy worked out? Arab spring? Afghanistan? All failures. Of course we can always look at fast and furious and the murders in Benghazi in relation to foreign policy. More failure, butt this time it has criminal implications.

railfancwb
10-28-2012, 10:04
Oouch! That's got to hurt! Why would red state Utah's largest cirulation (The Salt Lake Tribune (http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/opinion/55019844-82/endorsement-romney-obama-president.html.csp)) endorse Obama?

Editorial:
From his embrace of the party’s radical right wing, to subsequent portrayals of himself as a moderate champion of the middle class, Romney has raised the most frequently asked question of the campaign: "Who is this guy, really, and what in the world does he truly believe?"

The evidence suggests no clear answer, or at least one that would survive Romney’s next speech or sound bite. Politicians routinely tailor their words to suit an audience. Romney, though, is shameless, lavishing vastly diverse audiences with words, any words, they would trade their votes to hear.

Could it be - just possibly - that Mitt stepped on their toes while making the Olympics a financial success rather than the disaster it was becoming? Like maybe cutting back on advertising in that august paper? Just sayin...


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Cavalry Doc
10-28-2012, 10:40
Republican Party is 'full of racists,' claims ex-Colin Powell staffer.

"My party is full of racists," said Colin Powell's former chief of staff on MSNBC last night. Lawrence Wilkerson was responding to a claim that Powell only endorsed the president because both men are black, made by Romney campaign surrogate John Sununu (and GT'er Certifiedfunds).

Wilkerson said that the anger directed at Obama from "a considerable portion" of the GOP has "nothing to do with his competence as commander-in-chief and president, and everything to do with the color of his skin." He then branded that attitude "despicable."

Lawrence Wilkerson: 'My Party Is Full Of Racists' - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jaW92c2hqNs&feature=player_embedded)

I hate to say it, but at this point, I really don't care why someone votes against Barry. He is an abject failure. If you read a list of the things he has done, and it was possible to remove race from the situation, you'd see that what he has done is bad.

Obama Supporters Actually Hate Obama's Policies - YouTube


Now, if you want to throw out a race card, Let's get it on.

Blacks For Obama Simply Because He's Black - YouTube

Why do 91% of African Americans Still Support Obama? (Part 1) - 1080P HD - YouTube



So, when blacks vote for him only because he is black, that's "diversity". When whites do it, it's racism.

Let's get one thing perfectly clear, Barry could not have won the presidency without the support of whites. It's impossible. I don't like the guy because his ideas are just wrong. But at this point, I welcome anyone and everyone that will vote against Barry at this point. We'll try to reform them after the election, but get them to the polls, and lets get some change.

Trew2Life
10-28-2012, 11:53
This changes everything! I have now forgotten the economy, loss of liberty, fast and furious, Bebghazi, and too many more scandals to list. Since I am in fear of being called a racist by someone I don't even know, I will now vote for O. All I ask is that you don't call a racist! Please!

(Do I need a sarcasm symbol)

Just as well. The economy is recovering. Wall Street has seen 4 years of record breaking profits. The NASDAQ and Dow Jones Industrial Average rose to their highest level since May 2008, before Lehman Brothers went bankrupt and big business has literally trillions of dollars in off-shore banks.

Liberty must be a perceptual thing?! While you feel you have lost yours, I, on the other hand, have not experienced any noticeable loss of liberty. I guess that's one of the benefits of being an honest, law abiding citizen.

Trying to find a Presidential scandal in F&F and/or Benghazi is just wishful thinking on behalf of the GOP. Those incidents were tragedies, turned into election year grand-standing.

Don't fear if a stranger calls you a racist. Take the profound advice of one of our own GT'ers:

"I find it interesting that those who call others racists without even knowing them, are usually the racists themselves because they are so focused on race." Concretefuzzynuts

Trew2Life
10-28-2012, 11:54
Could it be - just possibly - that Mitt stepped on their toes while making the Olympics a financial success rather than the disaster it was becoming? Like maybe cutting back on advertising in that august paper? Just sayin...

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It's possible, I suppose, but it's probablly more likely that the SLC Tribune editorial got it dead right. That would seem apparent to anyone whose heard any two of Romney's speeches.

While Romney says he's against entitlements and corporate welfare and touts his success as the Olympic savior, he fails to mention the $600 million in government subsidies he lobbied for to help make said olympics successful.

Trew2Life
10-28-2012, 11:57
I hate to say it, but at this point, I really don't care why someone votes against Barry. He is an abject failure. If you read a list of the things he has done, and it was possible to remove race from the situation, you'd see that what he has done is bad.

Hmmm ... interesting prospect. Why don't you try it.
List some of BHO accomplishments and without regard to race demonstrate how/why he has failed. Not marginalized, deflect or divert, but demonstrate "abject failure".

I'll list a few, just to get you started, but you may choose others:

1) Signed the Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay Act
2) Saved the American Auto Industry from financial collapse.
3) Authorized the raid on Osama Bin Laden in Pakistan.
4) Ended the War in Iraq

Now, if you want to throw out a race card, Let's get it on.

No thank you. I don't vote with my complexion. I vote on issues that matter to my personal economics and well being. I vote on issues of character and substanance. You may do whatever you feel is neccessary.

happyguy
10-28-2012, 11:59
Liberty must be a perceptual thing?! While you feel you have lost yours, I, on the other hand, have not experienced any noticeable loss of liberty. I guess that's one of the benefits of being an honest, law abiding citizen.


Someone does not understand the difference between liberty and freedom. Oh those government schools.

Regards,
Happyguy :)

G29Reload
10-28-2012, 12:03
Just as well. The economy is recovering.

No, its not. 1.3% net of government spending is a stall that doesn't keep up with real inflation or our population growth. Flat out lie. It needs to be over 4%, or even better, 6% like under Reagan.

Wall Street has seen 4 years of record breaking profits.

Main st, not so much. :upeyes:

big business has literally trillions of dollars in off-shore banks.

They're sitting on their investment cash that could give people jobs out of sheer terror at what Obamacare could bring.


Trying to find a Presidential scandal in F&F and/or Benghazi is just wishful thinking on behalf of the GOP. Those incidents were tragedies, turned into election year grand-standing.

Glad you think murdered Americans due to the Adminstrations malfeasance is wishful thinking. Brian Terry's fmily will just wish he was there at their thanksgiving this year, and so will a dead ambassadors family and that of some brave Navy Seals. By grandstanding, you mean, "not sweeping things under the rug". A bigger hypocrite there never was. When the Seals got your Boy Zero a win he couldnt wait to politcize it, including all those dramatic situation room photos and a midnight address to the nation, even at the expense of shuttin his pie hole so the CIA could have better exploited the intel sweep.

rgregoryb
10-28-2012, 12:04
Hmmm ... interesting prospect. Why don't you try it.
List some of BHO accomplishments and without regard to race demonstrate how/why he has failed. Not marginalized, deflect or divert, but demonstrate "abject failure".

I'll list a few, just to get you started, but you may choose others:

1) Signed the Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay Act
2) Saved the American Auto Industry from financial collapse.
3) Authorized the raid on Osama Bin Laden in Pakistan.
4) Ended the War in Iraq



No thank you. I don't vote with my complexion. I vote on issues that matter to my personal economics and well being. I vote on issues of character and substanance. You may do whatever you feel is neccessary.

1. the Lily act only allows trial lawyers to "get" the $$ in a law suit easier. His admin shows that he pays the females a lot less than their male counterparts

2. The auto industry is about to tank again, The tax payers lost and will lose a bunch of $$$, Know about Delphi?

3. Who the hell would not have?

4.that was already on schedule...how about Gitmo?

happyguy
10-28-2012, 12:11
Hmmm ... interesting prospect. Why don't you try it.
List some of BHO accomplishments and without regard to race demonstrate how/why he has failed. Not marginalized, deflect or divert, but demonstrate "abject failure".

I'll list a few, just to get you started, but you may choose others:

1) Signed the Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay Act

Signed it? At least he didn't vote present!


2) Saved the American Auto Industry from financial collapse.

Pure opinion. Ford was/is doing fine. What he really did was sew up future votes from the members of the UAW and GM and Chrysler. Currently GM would be in better shape if they could have rewritten their labor contracts. It's just a matter of time before they go belly up with the current management philisophy.


3) Authorized the raid on Osama Bin Laden in Pakistan.

I think you are confusing Obama with Valerie Jarrett.


4) Ended the War in Iraq

The war in Iraq was won by Amercan fighting men. Obama didn't end anything.





Regards,
Happyguy :)

Providence
10-28-2012, 12:26
I'll play. Here are a few of Obama's accomplishments:

1. Obamacare and its outright attack on the Catholic Church
2. Disastrous Middle East foreign policy
3. Prevented the Keystone Pipeline
4. Porkulus (stimulus) - payoffs to political friends with billions unaccounted for
5. Overt and covert support for Wisconsin's unions
6. Solyndra - among many green failures
7. The Chevy Volt
8. Cheated GM bond holders
9. Delphi retirees
10. Fast and Furious
11. Benghazi

I'm sure we can think of others.

Ruble Noon
10-28-2012, 13:13
Hmmm ... interesting prospect. Why don't you try it.
List some of BHO accomplishments and without regard to race demonstrate how/why he has failed. Not marginalized, deflect or divert, but demonstrate "abject failure".

I'll list a few, just to get you started, but you may choose others:

1) Signed the Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay Act
2) Saved the American Auto Industry from financial collapse.
3) Authorized the raid on Osama Bin Laden in Pakistan.
4) Ended the War in Iraq



No thank you. I don't vote with my complexion. I vote on issues that matter to my personal economics and well being. I vote on issues of character and substanance. You may do whatever you feel is neccessary.

Bush bailed out the auto industry and osama, I mean obama authorized the hit after declining to take action 3-4 times and we still have thousands of troops in Iraq, an Iraq that is being taken over by Al-qaeda.

President Obama’s Misleading Account of Lilly Ledbetter Equal Pay Case




http://blog.heritage.org/2012/10/19/president-obamas-misleading-account-of-lilly-ledbetter-equal-pay-case/

Trew2Life
10-28-2012, 13:19
Failed

Failed

Failed

Failed

Failed. Really ?? A blog from The Heritage Foundation.

FAILED! The point was to demonstrate 'abject failure' without marginalization, deflection, or diversion. It should be easy since you each claim BHO is such a enormous failure. All you have submitted is policies or positions that you don't agree with or are not moving with the momentum you'd expect. Which is well within your right, but it is a far cry from demonstrating 'abject failure'.

rgregoryb
10-28-2012, 13:24
it's the ECONOMY.............stupid (to borrow a phrase)

look better to you? FAILURE, FAILURE
All his green energy buds got rich, we got stuck with the bill...everything economic he has touched has turned into a turd

ABJECT FAILURE.....middle east policy

Java Junky
10-28-2012, 13:31
Lies, lies and more lies. Everybody *****-foots around callin' him out for the bald-faced liar he is and, apparently . . that challenges his considerable lying-abilities.
'Didn't flinch professing to his adorin' brain-dead about how "it's all about trust" and how . . I've godda buck myself just to repeat this part . . . "when I say I'm gonna do somethin' . . you know that I'm gonna do it".

Nixon got impeached because (basically) of a b'n e.
This piece'a horse-dung gets good Americans killed because of his, and his suck-ups incompetence, defers cover-up after cover-up . . and the brain-dead still chant his name like the zombies in the first Mummy.
Humungo confusionalistic says I.

(Wow! "*****foots" got the hook! 'Magine'at!)

Providence
10-28-2012, 13:43
FAILED! The point was to demonstrate 'abject failure' without marginalization, deflection, or diversion. It should be easy since you each claim BHO is such such a enormous failure. All you have submitted is policies or positions that you don't agree with or are not moving with the momentum you'd expect. Which is well within your right, but it is a far cry from demonstrating 'abject failure'.Ha! Diversion is all you have! You are faced with facts that you can't accept and still win your argument. So you dismiss facts and call them something else.

You have no hope of winning around here. We actually know the facts. Wait, maybe if you bring up binders or big bird you can make more headway.

In all seriousness, none of us know who will win the election. To elect Romney we must get out the vote. Your side has illegals and dead people. All we have is real Americans who have jobs and responsibilities. But we need to go to the trouble of going to vote. Will we vote? I hope so. I don't think we can last 4 more years of O.

Trew2Life
10-28-2012, 14:46
Ha! Diversion is all you have! You are faced with facts that you can't accept and still win your argument. So you dismiss facts and call them something else.

You have no hope of winning around here. We actually know the facts. Wait, maybe if you bring up binders or big bird you can make more headway.

In all seriousness, none of us know who will win the election. To elect Romney we must get out the vote. Your side has illegals and dead people. All we have is real Americans who have jobs and responsibilities. But we need to go to the trouble of going to vote. Will we vote? I hope so. I don't think we can last 4 more years of O.

I'll play. Here are a few of Obama's accomplishments:

1. Obamacare and its outright attack on the Catholic Church
2. Disastrous Middle East foreign policy
3. Prevented the Keystone Pipeline
4. Porkulus (stimulus) - payoffs to political friends with billions unaccounted for
5. Overt and covert support for Wisconsin's unions
6. Solyndra - among many green failures
7. The Chevy Volt
8. Cheated GM bond holders
9. Delphi retirees
10. Fast and Furious
11. Benghazi

I'm sure we can think of others.

1. The AHCA is controversial to the Catholic Church, but a 'abject failure' as a whole ... not hardly. There are tremendous benefits for women, children and those with pre-existing conditions. I find it ironic that 500-600 U.S. Bishops of the Church oppose birth control while 98% of catholic women are using some form of birth. Abject failure ... I think not.

2. This would require citing specific policies, BUT ... tread carefully ... remember the third debate in which Gov Romney basically co-signed most of the presidents foreign policy positions.

3. There is currently enough existing pipeline to accommodate an additional 1 million more barrels of oil per day. The pipeline sponsors expect the WH to approve the northen leg of the pipeline after a new route around Nebraska's environmentally sensitive Sandhills region can be secured. Abject failure ... I think not.

4. No idea what you're talking about.

5. OMG. BHO supports unions! Start the impeachment hearings!

6. The Energy Department’s loan-guarantee program has backed nearly $38 billion in loans for 40 projects around the country. Solyndra represents just 1.3 percent of that portfolio — and, as yet, it’s the only loan that has failed to benefit. Other solar beneficiaries, such as SunPower and First Solar, are still going strong. Abject failure ... I think not.

7. Really. The Chevy Volt?! That's BO's fault, too? I'm sure they laughed at the Prius after R&D, too.

8. No idea what you're talking about.

9. This seems to be in contradiction to #5. Either you want BO to support unions or you don't ?? You're arguing for salaried retirees who may not see full protection of their pensions under the auto loan. However, if a retiree was an hourly employee their pensions were protected. Abject failure ... I think not.

10. & 11. National tragedies and BO has already stated full responsibility as the POTUS. Abject failure ... I think not.

rgregoryb
10-28-2012, 14:59
History will show that BO had the most corrupt administration ever. Jimmy Carter is happy that BO was president because JC is off the pole position for being the worst pres ever. This Marxist thug has obliterated the economy.

"I will balance the budget" This will be the most transparent administration" There will be no room for lobbyists" " If the economy does not rebound I should be a one term pres" "The unemployment no. will never go over 6%" "Benghazi?, we were not informed of Benghazi...too bad for the bumps in the road, I need to be on my way to Vegas to raise $$ with Beyonce"

TheJ
10-28-2012, 15:06
<sticks fingers in ears> LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA

fixed

Providence
10-28-2012, 15:22
Here are 12 green energy companies who were given taxpayer money and then went bankrupt. I think you could call these more of Obama's success!

1. Abound Solar (Loveland, Colorado), manufacturer of thin film photovoltaic modules.
2. Beacon Power (Tyngsborough, Massachusetts), designed and developed advanced products and services to support stable, reliable and efficient electricity grid operation.
3. Ener1 (Indianapolis, Indiana), built compact lithium-ion-powered battery solutions for hybrid and electric cars.
4. Energy Conversion Devices (Rochester Hills, Michigan/Auburn Hills, Michigan), manufacturer of flexible thin film photovoltaic (PV) technology and a producer of batteries and other renewable energy-related products.
5. Evergreen Solar, Inc. (Marlborough, Massachusetts), manufactured and installed solar panels.
6. Mountain Plaza, Inc. (Dandridge, Tennessee), designed and implemented &ldquo;truck-stop electrification&rdquo; technology.
7. Olsen&rsquo;s Crop Service and Olsens Mills Acquisition Co. (Berlin, Wisconsin), a private company producing ethanol.
8. Range Fuels (Soperton, Georgia), tried to develop a technology that converted biomass into ethanol without the use of enzymes.
9. Raser Technologies (Provo, Utah), geothermal power plants and technology licensing.
10. Solyndra (Fremont, California), manufacturer of cylindrical panels of thin-film solar cells.
11.Spectra watt (Hopewell, New York), solar cell manufacturer.
12. Thompson River Power LLC (Wayzata, Minnesota), designed and developed advanced products and services to support stable, reliable and efficient electricity grid operation.

happyguy
10-28-2012, 16:14
My step-daughter's father was just notified that his health insurance premium as a retiree of Ameritech will be increasing from $25 a month to $232 a month. He is a flaming lib but he just announced he is changing his vote from Obamao to Romney.

This is a great example of an Obamao success, eh?

Regards,
Happyguy :)

oldman11
10-28-2012, 16:21
strange. Calling this little article a sign of "Romney's house of cards collapsing" doesn't even seem like the words of someone with much experience in American politics.
You're right, it's just a liberal who doesn't like the fact that Romney is winning, so he'll throw out a bunch of bull in hopes of swaying people over.

Trew2Life
10-28-2012, 18:05
Here are 12 green energy companies who were given taxpayer money and then went bankrupt. I think you could call these more of Obama's success!

I cannot say that I recognize any of these companies other than the now infamous Solyndra and Abound Solar. I would point out that Abound Solar bowed out due to increasing market pressures from the industry leader China. Abound Solar simply could not compete.

Did you know that the U.S. governments subsidies of oil companies dates back to the early 1900s? Oil explorers are able to deduct costs based upon overall gross receipts and not just the actual value of the oil. It is estimated that when gas prices increase $.01, oil companies earn $200 million more in subsidies every month, on top of profits. How many of our tax payer dollars have been lost on that decision?

Win, lose, or draw (IMHO) clean energy subsidies, renewables and alternatives must be explored and gambled upon. We cannot continue to allow our foreign competitors to continue their dominance in this market.

Oil is not going to last forever and I'd rather see 30 U.S. green energy start-ups try and fail than to continue funding OPEC and terrorists.

Abject failure ... I think NOT! You obviously have a different priority, to which you are entitled.

rgregoryb
10-28-2012, 18:09
Did you know that the U.S. governments subsidies of oil companies dates back to the early 1900s? Oil explorers are able to deduct costs based upon overall gross receipts and not just the actual value of the oil. It is estimated that when gas prices increase $.01, oil companies earn $200 million more in subsidies every month, on top of profits. How many of our tax payer dollars have been lost on that decision?



and if these subsidies are taken away do you not think the oil cos will not pass that along to the consumer? genius, Quick run back to DU and bring us their answer,

countrygun
10-28-2012, 18:09
Did you know that the U.S. governments subsidies of oil companies dates back to the early 1900s? Oil explorers are able to deduct costs based upon overall gross receipts and not just the actual value of the oil. It is estimated that when gas prices increase $.01, oil companies earn $200 million more in subsidies every month, on top of profits. How many of our tax payer dollars have been lost on that decision?



So you are saying that Government subsidizing of oil has a record of success and thus far Obama's investments have failed.

I get it.

rgregoryb
10-28-2012, 18:13
trew2bama
you remind me of the guy who complained of "expired" tags on police cars and why the PD did not have to renew the tags...............I said " who do you think would pay for that, if they had to renewed and taxes paid on them every year" He didn't know.

happyguy
10-28-2012, 18:13
Win, lose, or draw (IMHO) clean energy subsidies, renewables and alternatives must be explored and gambled upon. We cannot continue to allow our foreign competitors to continue their dominance in this market.

Oil is not going to last forever and I'd rather see 30 U.S. green engery start-ups try and fail than to continue funding OPEC and terrorists.

OK, so when are we going to run out of oil? Obviously it isn't going to last forever but if we are going to panic we should at least have some idea of how much time we have left.

Last I heard we had a 20 year supply left. That was in 1973 so what's that...Oh my, we ran out 19 years ago!

Regards,
Happyguy :)

Providence
10-28-2012, 18:15
I cannot say that I recognize any of these companies other than the now infamous Solyndra and Abound Solar. I would point out that Abound Solar bowed out due to increasing market pressures from the industry leader China. Abound Solar simply could not compete.

Did you know that the U.S. governments subsidies of oil companies dates back to the early 1900s? Oil explorers are able to deduct costs based upon overall gross receipts and not just the actual value of the oil. It is estimated that when gas prices increase $.01, oil companies earn $200 million more in subsidies every month, on top of profits. How many of our tax payer dollars have been lost on that decision?

Win, lose, or draw (IMHO) clean energy subsidies, renewables and alternatives must be explored and gambled upon. We cannot continue to allow our foreign competitors to continue their dominance in this market.

Oil is not going to last forever and I'd rather see 30 U.S. green engery start-ups try and fail than to continue funding OPEC and terrorists.

Abject failure ... I think NOT! You obviously have a different priority, to which you are entitled.

You don't mind taxpayer money, borrowed from China, being poured into lost causes? This isn't about research. These companies were supposed to be manufacturing products.

Providence
10-28-2012, 18:25
First of all, I am in favor of eliminating special tax deductions for oil companies. That said, tax deductions are not the same as stimulus money. One is your money you keep, while the other is money the govt. gives you. Of course, to a liberal, all money belongs to the government, so they can not see the difference.

But that is not what we are discussing. We are discussing Obama's successes! Let's hear some more about them!

Unemployment? Manufacturing? Growth? Making Bush look good? Well, that has to be his most amazing accomplishment! You wouldn't think anyone could do that, but he has.

Trew2Life
10-28-2012, 18:42
First of all, I am in favor of eliminating special tax deductions for oil companies. That said, tax deductions are not the same as stimulus money. One is your money you keep, while the other is money the govt. gives you. Of course, to a liberal, all money belongs to the government, so they can not see the difference.

But that is not what we are discussing. We are discussing Obama's successes! Let's hear some more about them!

Unemployment? Manufacturing? Growth? Making Bush look good? Well, that has to be his most amazing accomplishment! You wouldn't think anyone could do that, but he has.

Well, actually we were discussing Romneys failures and his imminent political demise. If you'd like to hear some more about that I'd be happy to oblige.

Cavalry Doc
10-28-2012, 19:58
Hmmm ... interesting prospect. Why don't you try it.
List some of BHO accomplishments and without regard to race demonstrate how/why he has failed. Not marginalized, deflect or divert, but demonstrate "abject failure".

I'll list a few, just to get you started, but you may choose others:

1) Signed the Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay Act
2) Saved the American Auto Industry from financial collapse.
3) Authorized the raid on Osama Bin Laden in Pakistan.
4) Ended the War in Iraq



No thank you. I don't vote with my complexion. I vote on issues that matter to my personal economics and well being. I vote on issues of character and substanance. You may do whatever you feel is neccessary.

Spending beyond our means.
Historic increase in federal debt
Went after healthcare when he should have gone after jobs.

Looks like his apology tour failed. As did Fast and Furious, and his defense of our foreign consulates.

Yeah, he was at the helm when our guys got Osama. But he tried to take personal credit, instead of giving it where it was due.

Millions more unemployed. Millions more on welfare. Millions more on food stamps. Millions of more with obamaphones.

He has a legacy, just not the one anyone would have wanted.

GOT OBAMA PHONE - Remix - #ObamaPhone - YouTube

"Obama Phone" Remix (parody song) - YouTube

Obama Phone Remix - (J. Geils Band - Centerfold) - Michael Berry Show - 10/1/12 - YouTube

QNman
10-28-2012, 20:11
The economy is recovering? 46 million on food stamps, 23 million unemployed, millions underemployed, millions off the unemployment numbers, government debt to GDP...

And playing the race card? Really? Would you be so bold backing Obama if he were white? Methinks not. Me, I don't care what color he is, nor what other "accomplishments" you care to cite.

The economy sucks. Any sane person proclaiming it is currently "recovering" has their head in the sand or is being blatantly dishonest.

It's good you spelled your name "Trew". Calling it "true" would have been dishonest.

G29Reload
10-28-2012, 20:40
FAILED! The point was to demonstrate 'abject failure' without marginalization, deflection, or diversion. It should be easy since you each claim BHO is such a enormous failure. All you have submitted is policies or positions that you don't agree with or are not moving with the momentum you'd expect. Which is well within your right, but it is a far cry from demonstrating 'abject failure'.

Jobs policy - abject failure
GM - abject failure
Fast and Furious - Abject Failure
Libya - Abject failure
Economic growth - abject failure

Far cry? Troll elsewhere.

G29Reload
10-28-2012, 20:45
Well, actually we were discussing Romneys failures and his imminent political demise. If you'd like to hear some more about that I'd be happy to oblige.

You still can't answer for post 178. Troll.

Trew2Life
10-29-2012, 01:46
The economy sucks. Any sane person proclaiming it is currently "recovering" has their head in the sand or is being blatantly dishonest.

Mitt Romney: Of Course The Economy Is Getting Better (http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2012/01/20/mitt_romney_of_course_the_economy_is_getting_better.html)

Trew2Life
10-29-2012, 02:17
And playing the race card? Really? Would you be so bold backing Obama if he were white? Methinks not. Me, I don't care what color he is, nor what other "accomplishments" you care to cite.

Wait ... I thought he is part white? I guess that doesn't matter ... with the 'one drop rule' and all.

It's nice to know you're so perceptive toward my voting motivations. I almost messed up the streak though when I voted for Bill Clinton, but as fate would have it, he turned out to be black too.
:devildance:

IndyGunFreak
10-29-2012, 02:52
:rofl:

Romney Phone VS Obama Phone - YouTube

Angry Fist
10-29-2012, 08:01
Thanks, IGF! :horsey:

QNman
10-29-2012, 08:03
Mitt Romney: Of Course The Economy Is Getting Better (http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2012/01/20/mitt_romney_of_course_the_economy_is_getting_better.html)

That's it? Your great defense is that Mitt Romney says we're recovering, just very slowly?

Believe it or not, my opinion and Romney's are a hell of a lot closer than my opinion and Obama's or yours. You guys make it sound like all is well, that in a few short months, things will be like the 90s again.

Things suck right now. They have for the last four years. They will for the next four too, if Obama wins again. Because he's shown beyond a shadow of a doubt that he doesn't know what he's doing.

QNman
10-29-2012, 08:05
Wait ... I thought he is part white? I guess that doesn't matter ... with the 'one drop rule' and all.

It's nice to know you're so perceptive toward my voting motivations. I almost messed up the streak though when I voted for Bill Clinton, but as fate would have it, he turned out to be black too.
:devildance:

WTF does this have to do with what I asked? (Answer: nada)

So, I will try again.

If this had happened on W's watch, would you be so forgiving and nonchalant?

Angry Fist
10-29-2012, 08:12
So, I will try again.

If this had happened on W's watch, would you be so forgiving and nonchalant?
He'd be looking for a rope.

IndyGunFreak
10-29-2012, 08:29
WTF does this have to do with what I asked? (Answer: nada)

So, I will try again.

If this had happened on W's watch, would you be so forgiving and nonchalant?

No, because then it would be W's fault.

Trew2Life
10-29-2012, 16:53
^ This.

Nice. What was your previous screen name(s)? Two months in and already just another leftist blatherer. Come back when you have an actual point.

:rofl:

I wonder what Romney's neighbors cat thinks?

"Draft dodging"? Surely, you can back that up with something... perhaps on NBC...

Trew2Life = OWS / previously banned (or soon to be banned) screen name. No one jumpts headfirst into the cesspool of GTPI as quickly or as deeply.

Oh, and by the way... MediCaid is dying a slow, expensive death anyway. Even IF what you say is true.

Still assessing... nasty, biting, no sense of humor... HUGE leftist fanboy... barely narrows the field, unfortunately.

But there's little doubt this isn't his first screen name here.

Amen, brother.

The economy is recovering? 46 million on food stamps, 23 million unemployed, millions underemployed, millions off the unemployment numbers, government debt to GDP...

And playing the race card? Really? Would you be so bold backing Obama if he were white? Methinks not. Me, I don't care what color he is, nor what other "accomplishments" you care to cite.

The economy sucks. Any sane person proclaiming it is currently "recovering" has their head in the sand or is being blatantly dishonest.

It's good you spelled your name "Trew". Calling it "true" would have been dishonest.

That's it? Your great defense is that Mitt Romney says we're recovering, just very slowly?

Believe it or not, my opinion and Romney's are a hell of a lot closer than my opinion and Obama's or yours. You guys make it sound like all is well, that in a few short months, things will be like the 90s again.

Things suck right now. They have for the last four years. They will for the next four too, if Obama wins again. Because he's shown beyond a shadow of a doubt that he doesn't know what he's doing.

WTF does this have to do with what I asked? (Answer: nada)

So, I will try again.

If this had happened on W's watch, would you be so forgiving and nonchalant?

FIRST AND FOREMOST, [RE: The Economy]"Any sane person proclaiming it is currently "recovering" has their head in the sand or is being blatantly dishonest".

Your words. Not mine, and when I post a clip of Mitt Romney proclaiming, 'of course the economy is getting better' the only logical conclusion, based on your premise, is either Mitt Romney is not sane, or Mitt Romney has his head in the sand, or Mitt Romney is being blatantly dishonest. You wrote the rules. Live with it.

NEXT: I have reviewed and reposted 9 pages of quotes. NO WHERE DO I SEE A QUESTION POSED TO ME about, 'if this had happened on W's watch ...' If you choose to reply, please consider to title your response, 'My Bad'.

Had you asked that question, I would have told you that I did not vote for Bush (neither of them) but I did not hold him responsible for the security/intelligence lapse of 9/11 nor FEMA's inept response to Hurricane Katrina, or the Valerie Plame fiasco. I held Bush responsible for the bogus war in Iraq, the squander of 200B budget surplus, and the financial crisis of 2008.

IN CLOSING: Things may suck for you right now. I'm sorry to hear that. I'm sorry that you live such an economically depleted existence, but perhaps you may want to look more closely at your locally elected officials for answers.

My situation is different. Much different. My personal economics are fine. My community is thriving. I have a job (a very good job). I know the economy does better under democratic leadership than under republican. History and experience tells me so. Stop voting with your gun and vote with your values and you just might find some relief.

G29Reload
10-29-2012, 17:11
FIRST AND FOREMOST, [RE: The Economy]"Any sane person proclaiming it is currently "recovering" has their head in the sand or is being blatantly dishonest".

Your words. Not mine, and when I post a clip of Mitt Romney proclaiming, 'of course the economy is getting better' the only logical conclusion, based on your premise, is either Mitt Romney is not sane, or Mitt Romney has his head in the sand, or Mitt Romney is being blatantly dishonest.

Getting better and recovering are two different things, sounds like you AGAIN being the one blatantly dishonest.

Stop voting with your gun and vote with your values and you just might find some relief.

Guns and freedom ARE part of our values. A lefty troll like you wouldn't understand. Being MD you've already sold out on guns. The 2A is meaningless there, why I move to N VA.

Providence
10-29-2012, 17:35
I know the economy does better under democratic leadership than under republican. History and experience tells me so.Wow! Fantasy world has arrived from DU! This is the most ridiculous, insensitive, fantastical statement I've read in a while. Glad your doing well. Most people, except or Fed. Govt. employes, are struggling. Gas prices, food prices, health Insurence, are just a few of the drains. You probably blame these on local governments, but people here on GT won't buy it. These are a direct result of Fed. policy.

Your candidate is a failed president that may actually belong in prison because of his participation in Fast and Furious and the cover-up of the Benghazi debacle. He has given us the largest deficit in history. He has given us more scandals than any 8 year administration. His budgets don't even get Democratic votes. Abject failure.

Cavalry Doc
10-29-2012, 17:38
Wait ... I thought he is part white? I guess that doesn't matter ... with the 'one drop rule' and all.

It's nice to know you're so perceptive toward my voting motivations. I almost messed up the streak though when I voted for Bill Clinton, but as fate would have it, he turned out to be black too.
:devildance:

How often have you heard of Obama being referred to as half white in the media?


Interesting that half white = black. Isn't it?

certifiedfunds
10-29-2012, 18:08
Wait ... I thought he is part white? I guess that doesn't matter ... with the 'one drop rule' and all.

It's nice to know you're so perceptive toward my voting motivations. I almost messed up the streak though when I voted for Bill Clinton, but as fate would have it, he turned out to be black too.
:devildance:

Are you saying bill Clinton was black because he was sexually promiscuous ? That's pretty racist of you.

Narkcop
10-29-2012, 18:10
I remember how bad things were under Jimmy Carter. The Kenyan makes him look like a good President.

QNman
10-29-2012, 18:25
FIRST AND FOREMOST, [RE: The Economy]"Any sane person proclaiming it is currently "recovering" has their head in the sand or is being blatantly dishonest".

Your words. Not mine, and when I post a clip of Mitt Romney proclaiming, 'of course the economy is getting better' the only logical conclusion, based on your premise, is either Mitt Romney is not sane, or Mitt Romney has his head in the sand, or Mitt Romney is being blatantly dishonest. You wrote the rules. Live with it.

NEXT: I have reviewed and reposted 9 pages of quotes. NO WHERE DO I SEE A QUESTION POSED TO ME about, 'if this had happened on W's watch ...' If you choose to reply, please consider to title your response, 'My Bad'.

Had you asked that question, I would have told you that I did not vote for Bush (neither of them) but I did not hold him responsible for the security/intelligence lapse of 9/11 nor FEMA's inept response to Hurricane Katrina, or the Valerie Plame fiasco. I held Bush responsible for the bogus war in Iraq, the squander of 200B budget surplus, and the financial crisis of 2008.

IN CLOSING: Things may suck for you right now. I'm sorry to hear that. I'm sorry that you live such an economically depleted existence, but perhaps you may want to look more closely at your locally elected officials for answers.

My situation is different. Much different. My personal economics are fine. My community is thriving. I have a job (a very good job). I know the economy does better under democratic leadership than under republican. History and experience tells me so. Stop voting with your gun and vote with your values and you just might find some relief.

So, to read what you're saying here, W is responsible for all the shortcomings of his administration. But Obama, he's just... What? A victim of circumstances?

Your history is clearly short (or perhaps just short-sighted), so I will help you out; NEITHER party can honestly proclaim that their party has been more prosperous than the other, at least not outside the margin of error. If it were that simple, there'd only BE one party.

And not that it's any of your or anyone elses business, but my PERSONAL finances are OK. I'm not making what I made five years ago, but I'll get by just fine. The people I've had to lay off may be worse off.

Glad to hear you're doing so well personally. It's too bad a self-proclaimed leftist who is doing well for himself has so little concern for the economy as a whole or the country as a whole, as long as you're "doing fine".

News flash, youngster - this economy tanks, it IS going to affect your personal lifestyle, like it or not. And likely for the worse.

I do not "vote with my gun". I vote with my head. I don't have to wonder what it is you vote with.

JFrame
10-29-2012, 18:28
So, to read what you're saying here, W is responsible for all the shortcomings of his administration. But Obama, he's just... What? A victim of circumstances?

Your history is clearly short (or perhaps just short-sighted), so I will help you out; NEITHER party can honestly proclaim that their party has been more prosperous than the other, at least not outside the margin of error. If it were that simple, there'd only BE one party.

And not that it's any of your or anyone elses business, but my PERSONAL finances are OK. I'm not making what I made five years ago, but I'll get by just fine. The people I've had to lay off may be worse off.

Glad to hear you're doing so well personally. It's too bad a self-proclaimed leftist who,is doing well for himself has so little concern for the economy as a whole or the country as a whole, as long as you're "doing fine".

News flash, youngster - this economy tanks, it IS going to affect your personal lifestyle, like it or not. And likely for the worse.

I do not "vote with my gun". I vote with my head. I don't have to wonder what it is you vote with.

WORD! http://www.kolobok.us/smiles/artists/just_cuz/JC_banger.gif


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Cavalry Doc
10-29-2012, 18:51
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G29Reload
10-29-2012, 19:05
What's really funny is the failed OP title of this thread keeps popping to the top as the exact opposite happens. The rats are jumping ship with all the newspapers now endorsing Romney, OH now over the top for Romney and solid R momentum, MN, WI PA MI all now in play instead of solid obama, and a growing storyline that Benghazi may have been a deliberate stunt to kidnap Steven for a swap with the Blind sheik to appease Egypt. HE not only could be unelected in short order bit placed under arrest...

Providence
10-29-2012, 19:09
I went back and read the OP. it's very funny in the context of what has transpired!

09crue
10-29-2012, 19:27
ROMNEY by far, is the superior choice in this election! ROMNEY by a landslide!

Trew2Life
10-29-2012, 19:46
So, to read what you're saying here, W is responsible for all the shortcomings of his administration. But Obama, he's just... What? A victim of circumstances?

Your history is clearly short (or perhaps just short-sighted), so I will help you out; NEITHER party can honestly proclaim that their party has been more prosperous than the other, at least not outside the margin of error. If it were that simple, there'd only BE one party.

And not that it's any of your or anyone elses business, but my PERSONAL finances are OK. I'm not making what I made five years ago, but I'll get by just fine. The people I've had to lay off may be worse off.

Glad to hear you're doing so well personally. It's too bad a self-proclaimed leftist who is doing well for himself has so little concern for the economy as a whole or the country as a whole, as long as you're "doing fine".

News flash, youngster - this economy tanks, it IS going to affect your personal lifestyle, like it or not. And likely for the worse.

I do not "vote with my gun". I vote with my head. I don't have to wonder what it is you vote with.

Read what I'm saying by reading what I wrote. I hold Bush responsible for the issues I stated above; Iraq, FEMA, Valerie Plame. If you'd like to assign him and/or his administration more blame or responsibility or more shortcomings, please feel free.

As far as the economy doing better under democratics than republicans, that is not a party proclaimation. It's a statement of finding from independent economist and finacial managers. Look it up yourself. I'll even give you a teaser .... the reason may be because every republican president elected after JKF has had to deal with a recession in his first term. Ssshhhhh.

I have plenty concern for the economy, but my concerns may not be your concerns. I'm concerned about children being fed, seniors getting health care, and veterans getting benefits. I have a difficult time finding empathy for a population who will wait days in line for the latest Apple or Nike product and then try to tell me about a poor economy or a lack of jobs.

Do not mistake my commentaries as youthful exuberance. Not that it's any of your or anyone elses business, but I will be 50 years old before the end of this year.

When I was born, in this country, no one in my family - not my mother, not my father (who was a WWII veteran) was allowed to vote, and let me pre-empt the juveniles in the room who will pervert that statement into some kind of racial bias on my part. I did not support the presidential bids of Jackson, Sharpton, Cain, Keyes, or McKinney.

My history is clearly NOT short (nor short-sided). It's just different; a different perspective than yours (perhaps).

QNman
10-29-2012, 19:59
Read what I'm saying by reading what I wrote. I hold Bush responsible for the issues I stated above; Iraq, FEMA, Valerie Plame. If you'd like to assign him and/or his administration more blame or responsibility or more shortcomings, please feel free.

As far as the economy doing better under democratics than republicans, that is not a party proclaimation. It's a statement of finding from independent economist and finacial managers. Look it up yourself. I'll even give you a teaser .... the reason may be because every republican president elected after JKF has had to deal with a recession in his first term. Ssshhhhh.

I have plenty concern for the economy, but my concerns may not be your concerns. I'm concerned about children being fed, seniors getting health care, and veterans getting benefits. I have a difficult time finding empathy for a population who will wait days in line for the latest Apple or Nike product and then try to tell me about a poor economy or a lack of jobs.

Do not mistake my commentaries as youthful exuberance. Not that it's any of your or anyone elses business, but I will be 50 years old before the end of this year.

When I was born, in this country, no one in my family - not my mother, not my father (who was a WWII veteran) was allowed to vote, and let me pre-empt the juveniles in the room who will pervert that statement into some kind of racial bias on my part. I did not support the presidential bids of Jackson, Sharpton, Cain, Keyes, or McKinney.

My history is clearly NOT short (nor short-sided). It's just different; a different perspective than yours (perhaps).

All this, and I still haven't seen who's responsible for the sluggish / non-existent recovery...

Let's track it from a different direction then. Since you think the economy is recovering, what policies put in place by Obama and his administration have aided in said recovery? How do you reconcile that with spending 6-trillion dollars more than we take in?

G29Reload
10-29-2012, 20:06
When I was born, in this country, no one in my family - not my mother, not my father (who was a WWII veteran) was allowed to vote,

I call BS. If youre 50, you were born in 1962. So, unless your parents werent citizens, or they were felons, they WERE allowed to vote.

If not, cite the reason. It better be good because theres nothing in imagination other than sheer laziness that would prevent you from voting.

Goaltender66
10-29-2012, 20:17
What's really funny is the failed OP title of this thread keeps popping to the top as the exact opposite happens. The rats are jumping ship with all the newspapers now endorsing Romney, OH now over the top for Romney and solid R momentum, MN, WI PA MI all now in play instead of solid obama, and a growing storyline that Benghazi may have been a deliberate stunt to kidnap Steven for a swap with the Blind sheik to appease Egypt. HE not only could be unelected in short order bit placed under arrest...
Agreed. You've also noticed that we are no longer talking about the Obama firewall of North Carolina, Virginia, or Florida. Now states beyond Obama's firewall like you've mentioned are all in play.

The trends undoubtedly favor Romney.

countrygun
10-29-2012, 20:24
I call BS. If youre 50, you were born in 1962. So, unless your parents werent citizens, or they were felons, they WERE allowed to vote.

If not, cite the reason. It better be good because theres nothing in imagination other than sheer laziness that would prevent you from voting.

This^^^^^^^

Stick a fork in the poser, he's done.

Snowman92D
10-29-2012, 20:25
When I was born, in this country, no one in my family - not my mother, not my father (who was a WWII veteran) was allowed to vote...

Mierda del toro. :toilet:

Trew2Life
10-29-2012, 20:30
An honest assessment? A shameless pandering for disaster relief funding? Can you say: Christie 2016!!

(IMHO) Gov Christie just threw Romney/Ryan under the bus a week before the election 'of our lifetime'. It would be more palatable for Christie to run against a democrat in 2016 than buck party protocol and run against a (highly unlikely) Romney presidency in 2016 or worse, wait until 2020.

Gov Christie could have easily relayed the same sentiment without all the butt kissing he graciously bestowed upon the POTUS.

Chris Christie PRAISES OBAMA - YouTube

countrygun
10-29-2012, 20:36
An honest assessment? A shameless pandering for disaster relief funding? Can you say: Christie 2016!!

(IMHO) Gov Christie just threw Romney/Ryan under the bus a week before the election 'of our lifetime'. It would be more palatable for Christie to run against a democrat in 2016 than buck party protocol and run against a (highly unlikely) Romney presidency in 2016 or worse, wait until 2020.

Gov Christie could have easily relayed the same sentiment without all the butt kissing he graciously bestowed upon the POTUS.

Chris Christie PRAISES OBAMA - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uCA3J_-4byQ)


You've been DQ'ed on a BS penalty.

Trew2Life
10-29-2012, 20:37
Gee ... I wonder what all the fuss was about with the Voter Rights Act of 1965? You know ... the landmark piece of national legislation that outlawed discriminatory voting practices that had been responsible for the widespread disenfranchisement of African Americans in the U.S.

There's a difference between being 'allowed' to vote and having the right to vote.

It's a shame more Americans aren't more familiar with our history.

Snowman92D
10-29-2012, 20:58
[COLOR=black]It's a shame more Americans aren't more familiar with our history.

From your perspective, it's a shame so many Americans have functioning BS detectors. :supergrin:

G29Reload
10-29-2012, 21:11
that outlawed discriminatory voting practices that had been responsible for the widespread disenfranchisement of African Americans in the U.S.[/COLOR]

by the likes of democrats like bull connor.

countrygun
10-29-2012, 21:14
Kind of reminds me of the forgotten quote of Obama's about his Fathers contributions in WWII.

Armchair Commando
10-29-2012, 21:17
Gee ... I wonder what all the fuss was about with the Voter Rights Act of 1965? You know ... the landmark piece of national legislation that outlawed discriminatory voting practices that had been responsible for the widespread disenfranchisement of African Americans in the U.S.

There's a difference between being 'allowed' to vote and having the right to vote.

It's a shame more Americans aren't more familiar with our history.

What exactly is a African American? were they Africans who came here and became legal US citizens?
So i guess im a native American. Since my great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great grandfather was a full blooded Indian?
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G29Reload
10-29-2012, 21:18
Gee ... I wonder what all the fuss was about with the Voter Rights Act of 1965? You know ... the landmark piece of national legislation that outlawed discriminatory voting practices that had been responsible for the widespread disenfranchisement of African Americans in the U.S.

There's a difference between being 'allowed' to vote and having the right to vote.

It's a shame more Americans aren't more familiar with our history.

You could be hassled down south for sure, in public gatherings, blocked from some private accommodations, water fountains, some places but not everywhere...and if you wanted to vote you could. With a hassle to be sure in some places, but if you wanted to vote, you could.

So, youre claiming you're black and your family was down south and the klan camped out on your lawn? threatened with your life for entering a polling station? you havent done anything but allude. how about being specific?

certifiedfunds
10-29-2012, 21:19
Gee ... I wonder what all the fuss was about with the Voter Rights Act of 1965? You know ... the landmark piece of national legislation that outlawed discriminatory voting practices that had been responsible for the widespread disenfranchisement of African Americans in the U.S.

There's a difference between being 'allowed' to vote and having the right to vote.

It's a shame more Americans aren't more familiar with our history.

You're a black dude and you vote democrat? The democratic party works tirelessly to keep black folks on the modern plantation. They treat you as a number, assume your vote and peddle meager handouts that keep generations dependent.

Nice going.

QNman
10-29-2012, 21:33
All this, and I still haven't seen who's responsible for the sluggish / non-existent recovery...

Let's track it from a different direction then. Since you think the economy is recovering, what policies put in place by Obama and his administration have aided in said recovery? How do you reconcile that with spending 6-trillion dollars more than we take in?

Just in case you missed it...

Trew2Life
10-29-2012, 21:38
Just in case you missed it...

No. I didn't miss it. I just thought I'd wait for the uneducated little children in the thread to go night-night and leave the adults to conversate.

countrygun
10-29-2012, 21:43
No. I didn't miss it. I just thought I'd wait for the uneducated little children in the thread to go night-night and leave the adults to conversate.

OK, go ahead and turn in then. You cans see what the adults wrote when you get up in the morning.:wavey:

G29Reload
10-29-2012, 21:47
No. I didn't miss it. I just thought I'd wait for the uneducated little children in the thread to go night-night and leave the adults to conversate.


So, how does it feel to lose?

You have complete thread fail. It appears BoyZero is going lose, more ground every day.

It is the Obama house of cards collapsing.

It might even be a blow out. All your false assertions, lies, obfuscations, selective memories and attempts to sew falsehood to mislead the gullible have been met at every turn with complete resistance and not just a couple of facts. Your colleagues back at DU will be ashamed of you for your unmitigated failure.

But that' funny about the dems. They're known for shooting their wounded.:rofl:

:wavey:

rgregoryb
10-30-2012, 06:28
trew2obama..................what a tool.

SCmasterblaster
10-30-2012, 12:17
Who cares? I am voting for the pro-gun Romney.

wjv
10-30-2012, 14:13
Look at that Romney House of Cards collapsing!!!

- Romney, Smith Lead in Penn.
- WaPo/ABC: Romney Up 1 Despite Clear GOP Turnout Deficit
- New Projection of Election Results: Romney 52, Obama 47
- New Poll: Romney Takes the Lead in Ohio
- Post-Debate, Florida Swings 4 to 6 Points Toward Romney
- Is Pennsylvania Back in Play?
- Oct 24th: Rasmussen: Romney 261, Obama 253
......Five days later. . .
- Oct 29th: Rasmussen: Romney 279, Obama 243

Trew2Life
10-30-2012, 16:20
What is on Gov Christie's mind! Is he purposely trying to undermine Mitt Romney's campaign with just days until the election?

Why doesn't he just say 'the president is doing what any president would do' and leave it at that? Why does he have to use such high praise and accolades with regard to the POTUS?

FOX: We hear that perhaps Mr. Romney may do some storm-related events. Is there any possibility that Gov. Romney may go to New Jersey to tour some of the damage with you?

CHRISTIE: I have no idea, nor am I the least bit concerned or interested. I’ve got a job to do here in New Jersey that’s much bigger than presidential politics and I could care less about any of that stuff. I have a job to do. I’ve got 2.4 million people out of power. I’ve got devastation on the shore. I’ve got floods in the northern part of my state. If you think right now I give a damn about presidential politics then you don’t know me.

FOX: [RE: N.J. officially declared 'disaster area'] How does that help you?

CHRISTIE: Helps us tremendously. I spoke to the president three times yesterday. He called me for the last time at midnight last night asking what he could do. I said, ‘If you could expedite designating New Jersey as a major disaster area that that would help us to get federal money and resources in here as quickly as possible to help clean up the damage here.

The president was great last night. He said he would get it done. At 2 a.m., I got a call from FEMA to answer a couple of final questions and then he signed the declaration this morning. So I have to give the president great credit. He’s been on the phone with me three times in the last 24 hours. He has been very attentive, and anything that I’ve asked for, he’s gotten to me. So, I thank the president publicly for that. He has done—as far as I’m concerned—a great job for New Jersey.

Story with video:
Chris Christie Goes Off Fox Script: Praises Obama, Dismisses Romney “Photo Op” Re Monster Storm Sandy (http://www.newshounds.us/chris_christie_goes_off_fox_script_praises_obama_dismisses_romney_photo_op_re_monster_storm_sandy_10 302012)

countrygun
10-30-2012, 16:32
What is on Gov Christie's mind! Is he purposely trying to undermine Mitt Romney's campaign with just days until the election?

Why doesn't he just say 'the president is doing what any president would do' and leave it at that? Why does he have to use such high praise and accolades with regard to the POTUS?

FOX: We hear that perhaps Mr. Romney may do some storm-related events. Is there any possibility that Gov. Romney may go to New Jersey to tour some of the damage with you?

CHRISTIE: I have no idea, nor am I the least bit concerned or interested. I’ve got a job to do here in New Jersey that’s much bigger than presidential politics and I could care less about any of that stuff. I have a job to do. I’ve got 2.4 million people out of power. I’ve got devastation on the shore. I’ve got floods in the northern part of my state. If you think right now I give a damn about presidential politics then you don’t know me.

FOX: [RE: N.J. officially declared 'disaster area'] How does that help you?

CHRISTIE: Helps us tremendously. I spoke to the president three times yesterday. He called me for the last time at midnight last night asking what he could do. I said, ‘If you could expedite designating New Jersey as a major disaster area that that would help us to get federal money and resources in here as quickly as possible to help clean up the damage here.

The president was great last night. He said he would get it done. At 2 a.m., I got a call from FEMA to answer a couple of final questions and then he signed the declaration this morning. So I have to give the president great credit. He’s been on the phone with me three times in the last 24 hours. He has been very attentive, and anything that I’ve asked for, he’s gotten to me. So, I thank the president publicly for that. He has done—as far as I’m concerned—a great job for New Jersey.

Story with video:
Chris Christie Goes Off Fox Script: Praises Obama, Dismisses Romney “Photo Op” Re Monster Storm Sandy (http://www.newshounds.us/chris_christie_goes_off_fox_script_praises_obama_dismisses_romney_photo_op_re_monster_storm_sandy_10 302012)

Obama also gave the go ahead on getting Bin Laden.

He still sucks.

Trew2Life
10-30-2012, 16:58
All this, and I still haven't seen who's responsible for the sluggish / non-existent recovery...

I'm not an economist. If it weren't for the Mrs I'd be in debt, myself. I like spending money.

Wall street is doing fine. Seems to me that small business and many people have decided to cut off their nose to spite their face over Health Care reform.

Let's track it from a different direction then. Since you think the economy is recovering, what policies put in place by Obama and his administration have aided in said recovery?

Financial aid to the Auto Industry.

How do you reconcile that with spending 6-trillion dollars more than we take in?

Again, I'm not an economist, but I'll give you guys something to laugh about ...

Our country has been in and out of debt since the Civil War. Maybe longer, so spare me the speech about our grandchildrens inheritance. Our money isn't backed by anything other than the 'good faith and credit' of the United States. There's an old saying, 'As long as I owe you, you'll never be broke.'

Enjoy everyone. It will help take your mind off the Gov Christie bombshell.

certifiedfunds
10-30-2012, 17:01
What is on Gov Christie's mind! Is he purposely trying to undermine Mitt Romney's campaign with just days until the election?

Why doesn't he just say 'the president is doing what any president would do' and leave it at that? Why does he have to use such high praise and accolades with regard to the POTUS?

FOX: We hear that perhaps Mr. Romney may do some storm-related events. Is there any possibility that Gov. Romney may go to New Jersey to tour some of the damage with you?

CHRISTIE: I have no idea, nor am I the least bit concerned or interested. I’ve got a job to do here in New Jersey that’s much bigger than presidential politics and I could care less about any of that stuff. I have a job to do. I’ve got 2.4 million people out of power. I’ve got devastation on the shore. I’ve got floods in the northern part of my state. If you think right now I give a damn about presidential politics then you don’t know me.

FOX: [RE: N.J. officially declared 'disaster area'] How does that help you?

CHRISTIE: Helps us tremendously. I spoke to the president three times yesterday. He called me for the last time at midnight last night asking what he could do. I said, ‘If you could expedite designating New Jersey as a major disaster area that that would help us to get federal money and resources in here as quickly as possible to help clean up the damage here.

The president was great last night. He said he would get it done. At 2 a.m., I got a call from FEMA to answer a couple of final questions and then he signed the declaration this morning. So I have to give the president great credit. He’s been on the phone with me three times in the last 24 hours. He has been very attentive, and anything that I’ve asked for, he’s gotten to me. So, I thank the president publicly for that. He has done—as far as I’m concerned—a great job for New Jersey.

Story with video:
Chris Christie Goes Off Fox Script: Praises Obama, Dismisses Romney “Photo Op” Re Monster Storm Sandy (http://www.newshounds.us/chris_christie_goes_off_fox_script_praises_obama_dismisses_romney_photo_op_re_monster_storm_sandy_10 302012)

Because he needs something from him. Simple.