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OctoberRust
10-16-2012, 14:36
More abortion, less crime?

Kind of like more guns, less crime?

Any theories on why this may be? Maybe like, instead of having the kid, and him/her living a messed up life with messed up kids, that a CHL holder has to shoot 20 years down the road because they're trying to rob them, the screw up parents that were never good enough to begin with have an abortion? :dunno:

I don't know, but I'm digging the theory! Let's hear your theory on why abortion reduces crime.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legalized_abortion_and_crime_effect

TK-421
10-16-2012, 14:44
Seeing as how most republicans seem to hate abortion, and most democrats are okay with it, I'd say there's less crime because there's less democrats. :tongueout:

OctoberRust
10-16-2012, 14:48
Seeing as how most republicans seem to hate abortion, and most democrats are okay with it, I'd say there's less crime because there's less democrats. :tongueout:
:rofl::rofl::rofl:

That would explain why more guns = less crime is viable too then.


Dang man, you just killed two babies with one stone.... No pun intended.

GAFinch
10-16-2012, 15:20
The Democrats have been replacing aborted babies with illegal immigrants, so that cancels out that crime rate change theory. I'd attribute the decrease more to the increase in concealed carry rights in states in the late 80's and in the 90's.

tantrix
10-16-2012, 15:35
:rofl::rofl::rofl:

That would explain why more guns = less crime is viable too then.


Dang man, you just killed two babies with one stone.... No pun intended.

:rofl: :rofl:

Snaps
10-16-2012, 15:49
makes sense, less unwanted kids that the parents want nothing to do with means less of those kids running the streets committing crimes. Yup, I can see it

OctoberRust
10-16-2012, 15:51
makes sense, less unwanted kids that the parents want nothing to do with means less of those kids running the streets committing crimes. Yup, I can see it


Same. Most likely less welfare recipients too. This is just win/win/win in my opinion.

Woofie
10-16-2012, 16:10
Make abortion mandatory.

Snaps
10-17-2012, 23:08
Make abortion mandatory.

yup... without a license.

If you're gonna let religion dictate your laws like they want to do on abortion might as well start running sharia law.

Blast
10-18-2012, 05:07
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CanMan
10-18-2012, 13:30
I approve this message.

Steven Levitt (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steven_Levitt) of the University of Chicago (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_Chicago) and John Donohue (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Donohue) of Yale University (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yale_University) revived discussion of this claim with their 2001 paper "The Impact of Legalized Abortion on Crime (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Impact_of_Legalized_Abortion_on_Crime)". Donohue and Levitt point to the fact that males aged 18 to 24 are most likely to commit crimes. Data indicates that crime in the United States started to decline in 1992. Donohue and Levitt suggest that the absence of unwanted aborted children, following legalization in 1973, led to a reduction in crime 18 years later, starting in 1992 and dropping sharply in 1995. These would have been the peak crime-committing years of the unborn children.

tnpatriot
10-20-2012, 16:45
Some people consider the act of abortion to be murder. Murder is a crime. This train of thought means that more abortion equals more crimes. Just sayin'

OctoberRust
10-21-2012, 16:51
Some people consider the act of abortion to be murder. Murder is a crime. This train of thought means that more abortion equals more crimes. Just sayin'



Yep.

Some liberals consider the act of carrying a gun to be a crime also. Does not mean either side is right.


Just sayin'

Angry Fist
10-21-2012, 16:53
Yep.

Some liberals consider the act of carrying a gun to be a crime also. Does not mean either side is right.


Just sayin'
So does the Florida AG.

Snaps
10-27-2012, 01:22
Some people consider the act of abortion to be murder. Murder is a crime. This train of thought means that more abortion equals more crimes. Just sayin'

http://i47.tinypic.com/2ajtfrm.jpg

di11igaf
10-29-2012, 14:53
http://i47.tinypic.com/2ajtfrm.jpg

F#$%ing genius

OctoberRust
11-02-2012, 09:01
http://i47.tinypic.com/2ajtfrm.jpg
:rofl::rofl: thanks for t he awesome pic sir!

cowboywannabe
11-02-2012, 09:07
before anybody could have a serious debate about abortion, the abortions being done should not be paid for with our tax dollars.

once its a pay from your own pocket deal then you can debate it with society.

OctoberRust
11-02-2012, 15:07
before anybody could have a serious debate about abortion, the abortions being done should not be paid for with our tax dollars.

once its a pay from your own pocket deal then you can debate it with society.



Agreed. There's a LOT of things that shouldn't be funded with our tax money. I'm sure you'll agree with that statement as well.

BigBearCarolina
11-04-2012, 21:53
F#$%ing genius

Except, sperm in not a fetus.

clint curtis
02-17-2013, 11:33
Most abortions occur one generation late.

Bren
02-17-2013, 12:06
Seeing as how most republicans seem to hate abortion, and most democrats are okay with it, I'd say there's less crime because there's less democrats. :tongueout:

That is, basically, true. The people who have the most abortions seem to also be from the subcultures that commit most crime, so I figure there is always going to be some effect if they reproduce more or less. It may be too small to notice, or it may not.

There is, similarly, a reason the democrat party has been fighting to have every state automatically restore voting rights to felons when they leave prison, while the Republicans have been against it - felons are mostly democrats.

TX OMFS
02-18-2013, 01:49
http://i47.tinypic.com/2ajtfrm.jpg

I'll bet her man has to submit a request for sex 3 weeks in advance on the proper form with a notary. :rofl:



Seriously,though, abortion ends a human life. That is an indisputable medical fact. How that affects our crime rate or whether it is a crime is a matter of opinion.

Harper
03-05-2013, 19:57
Where's the video that was posted the other day showing crime has the strongest correlation to illegitimacy? That's why abortion lowers crime.

Mrs.Cicero
03-12-2013, 17:37
Here is an example of an abortion mill increasing the number of crimes - the bit about using scissors to cut through the spinal cords of 100+ babies BORN ALIVE is particularly revolting. Oh, yeah, the dead and mangled mothers might bother some people, too.



http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/03/04/17178509-house-of-horrors-abortion-doctor-set-to-go-on-trial-in-8-deaths?lite&lite=obinsite

Angry Fist
03-22-2013, 19:30
http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/zz13/MO_FUGGAZ/Abortion.jpg

Ronny
03-23-2013, 07:12
before anybody could have a serious debate about abortion, the abortions being done should not be paid for with our tax dollars.

once its a pay from your own pocket deal then you can debate it with society.

From a fiscally conservative point of view tax payers should fund all abortions. Paying $500 for an abortion now can prevent a couple hundred thousand in welfare and health care payments in the future than it's a good deal. It is a liberal hair brained policy to defund abortions and keep the welfare flowing to people who can't support their own kids.

Mrs.Cicero
03-23-2013, 08:04
From a fiscally conservative point of view tax payers should fund all abortions. Paying $500 for an abortion now can prevent a couple hundred thousand in welfare and health care payments in the future than it's a good deal. It is a liberal hair brained policy to defund abortions and keep the welfare flowing to people who can't support their own kids.

That same "logic" says we should exterminate everyone on (permanent) disability.

Ronny
03-23-2013, 08:30
That same "logic" says we should exterminate everyone on (permanent) disability.

Ironically that is the position supported by many on these boards. Simply "let them work or starve" to death is a refrain I've read many times. And the ironic part is that most who voice such opinions are strongly "pro-life".

OctoberRust
03-23-2013, 09:15
Ironically that is the position supported by many on these boards. Simply "let them work or starve" to death is a refrain I've read many times. And the ironic part is that most who voice such opinions are strongly "pro-life".



Let them starve themselves. Keep the government out of helping, or exterminating. :cool:

Ronny
03-23-2013, 13:49
Let them starve themselves. Keep the government out of helping, or exterminating. :cool:

At least you are consistent. Consistency is virtue I find all too uncommon and do not undervalue so long as it is not accompanied by stubbornness. :whistling:

OctoberRust
03-23-2013, 17:07
At least you are consistent. Consistency is virtue I find all too uncommon and do not undervalue so long as it is not accompanied by stubbornness. :whistling:



Hey, what can I say... it ain't easy being a true conservative on this board. :supergrin: You know how many times I've been called a liberal because I simply want the government to GTFO of people's lives, if it isn't directly permitted in the constitution?

Blast
03-29-2013, 00:08
The majority of those on welfare are able bodied and are perfectly capable of working. I see it everywhere. But since they lied their way into receiving benefits, they will remain parasites.
There should be a law requiring all recipients be assigned to work details 40 hours a week. Whether it be road crews, sanitation facilities, ditch digging, or whatever dirty job. And desk jobs for the disabled. No more free rides on the gov. teet.

TK-421
03-29-2013, 01:56
And the ironic part is that most who voice such opinions are strongly "pro-life".

You have to realize that they're not "pro-life", they're "pro-fetus". They want that kid to stay alive inside his mommy's tummy for the entire nine months, and don't you dare touch it or abort it. But once the mom gives birth and the kid is out? That's when they don't give a flying **** about it. That's when they tend to endlessly piss and moan about food stamps, welfare, and whatever else they ***** about.

Harper
03-29-2013, 11:53
http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/zz13/MO_FUGGAZ/Abortion.jpg

I've seen this picture going around. So the "pro-choice" label doesn't entail that's some universal principle, it doesn't affect the argument. The argument contains the idea that the mother should have the choice, it is not based, and certainly not reliant, on the premise that choice is a universal positive value.

Ronny
03-29-2013, 17:09
You have to realize that they're not "pro-life", they're "pro-fetus". They want that kid to stay alive inside his mommy's tummy for the entire nine months, and don't you dare touch it or abort it. But once the mom gives birth and the kid is out? That's when they don't give a flying **** about it. That's when they tend to endlessly piss and moan about food stamps, welfare, and whatever else they ***** about.

I've noticed that too. I have one relative who is the only person I've ever met who is pro-life. He is pro-fetus and against the death penalty and in favor of helping the poor. His opinion is that as people advance up the social ladder they naturally have few kids like we see in the USA and Europe. By helping people with a hand up and not just a hand out a lot of social problems wither away on their own.

glockman66
03-31-2013, 13:30
What would you think if you had just survived a train wreck(were alive and could make a full recovery) and then the EMT walks up to you and says ,"hey, your supposed to be dead" and then proceeds to kill/murder you? Well then, what about a baby that survives a botched abortion(the baby is alive and well enough to make a recovery) and then the abortionist/mother say that the baby isn't supposed to be alive an proceed to kill/murder it(a newly born infant)?
IMHO, there are a lot of people/politicians in this country that care more about the treatment of animals than they do about the treatment of human life and are truly sick(mentally). Post-birth abortion is another lib name for murder(just like partial-birth abortion).


http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/video-planned-parenthood-official-argues-right-post-birth-abortion_712198.html
Video: Planned Parenthood Official Argues for Right to Post-Birth Abortion
11:36 AM, Mar 29, 2013 • By JOHN MCCORMACK

Blast
04-01-2013, 00:14
http://scottystarnes.files.wordpress.com/2012/11/liberal-logic-101-264.jpg?w=500&h=416

OctoberRust
04-01-2013, 14:25
http://scottystarnes.files.wordpress.com/2012/11/liberal-logic-101-264.jpg?w=500&h=416


Just imagine if we could nip the problem at the bud. And abort that guy from the get go before he harms anyone. :rofl::rofl::rofl:

Angry Fist
04-01-2013, 19:30
http://scottystarnes.files.wordpress.com/2012/11/liberal-logic-101-264.jpg?w=500&h=416
My new wallpaper. Thanks!

TK-421
04-01-2013, 20:05
It's really sad when people will ***** and moan endlessly about something someone else does, claiming they're hypocrites and all this other stuff, when they can't see the hypocrisy spilling from their lips.

Harper
04-01-2013, 20:41
I've noticed the intellectually inept are especially hung up on pointing out hypocrisy as an argument tactic (Tu quoque).

phonejack
04-04-2013, 19:45
People who are " pro choice " need to go to their mothers on Mothers Day and thank them for not believing like they do.

Harper
04-04-2013, 20:49
People who are " pro choice " need to go to their mothers on Mothers Day and thank them for not believing like they do.

Clearly there are pro-choice parents and your statement is nonsensical.

Angry Fist
04-04-2013, 20:52
http://www.ozpolitic.com/funny/photos/now-that-I'm-safe-I'm-pro-choice.jpg

Blast
04-11-2013, 02:19
I'd say this thread can sure use these...:whistling:

http://i492.photobucket.com/albums/rr288/shywolf58/Decorated%20images/ButtHurt.jpg

glockman66
04-13-2013, 10:49
You can be absolutely/positively sure that this story will never make the lib MSM propaganda/indoctrination outlets.


http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/04/11/gosnell-trial-15-year-old-girl-allegedly-helped-kill-live-babies-at-hellish-pa-abortion-clinic/
Crime
Apr. 11, 2013 11:00pm
Gosnell Trial: 15-Year-Old Girl Allegedly Helped Kill Live Babies at Hellish Pa. Abortion Clinic
Jason Howerton

Alizard
04-18-2013, 14:02
Make abortion mandatory. Also retroactive?

glockman66
04-18-2013, 15:42
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887323309604578428900867620018.html?mod=djemEditorialPage_h
April 17, 2013, 6:55 p.m. ET
Henninger: Clinging to Guns—and Abortion
Everyone clings to something, and we now know what liberals cling to.

glockman66
04-28-2013, 21:47
http://www.lifenews.com/2013/04/28/abortion-clinic-suggests-flushing-baby-down-toilet-if-born-alive/
Abortion Clinic Suggests “Flushing” Baby Down Toilet if Born Alive
by Steven Ertelt | Bronx, NY | LifeNews.com | 4/28/13 2:05 AM

glockman66
04-29-2013, 21:52
Like this article said, "Unfortunately, you probably knew this was coming:"


http://hotair.com/archives/2013/04/29/gosnells-defense-attorney-this-is-just-an-elitist-racist-prosecution/
Gosnell’s defense attorney: This is an “elitist, racist prosecution”
posted at 6:41 pm on April 29, 2013 by Erika Johnsen

nmk
04-30-2013, 05:53
People who are " pro choice " need to go to their mothers on Mothers Day and thank them for not believing like they do.

One of the dumbest things I have ever read here.

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glockman66
05-13-2013, 16:12
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/may/13/jury-convicts-philadelphia-abortion-doctor-gosnell/?utm_source=RSS_Feed&utm_medium=RSS
Jury convicts Philadelphia abortion doctor of first-degree murder
By Cheryl Wetzstein
The Washington Times - Monday, May 13, 2013

"In a case that attracted national attention, Philadelphia inner-city abortion provider Dr. Kermit B. Gosnell was found guilty of first-degree murder Monday in the deaths of three born-alive babies by “snipping” their spines."...