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Bill Powell
10-16-2012, 17:29
What do you consider the coolest car on the planet? Cars between 1950 and 2000, exotics, stock, customs, and trucks. A custom car can be any year, just built in this time period.

photos would be nice.

Dragoon189
10-16-2012, 17:38
lotus 340r I have no reason why other than I like it

Atlas
10-16-2012, 17:41
Too many choices really, but...
How about the Chevy Cheetah?

http://carphotos.cardomain.com/ride_images/3/2296/3481/30739240190_large.jpg

nursetim
10-16-2012, 17:41
This one

*ASH*
10-16-2012, 17:43
This one

funny :rofl: when you click it you get pic of a different car roflmao

Dalton Wayne
10-16-2012, 17:45
http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.allpar.com/cotm/photos/superbird/plymouth.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.allpar.com/model/superbird.html&h=336&w=808&sz=76&tbnid=OMqf4ndANWjkAM:&tbnh=50&tbnw=120&zoom=1&usg=__5UZlQcxwliNi0g9M44M_26fu9fw=&docid=ksCBsrDVUWPzxM&sa=X&ei=bvF9UPLeO4ng8AT6poDQCQ&ved=0CDsQ9QEwBA&dur=485

el_jewapo
10-16-2012, 17:46
GTO Judge 1st to 2nd gear rolling burnout... - YouTube

Bill Powell
10-16-2012, 17:48
A man after me own heart. I love the Cheetah. Dr Thomas won a lot of races with the original. Last I heard they were still building bodies for it.

JLB768
10-16-2012, 17:53
http://fearofaghostplanet.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/The-Car1.jpg

kiole
10-16-2012, 17:57
There's just something about a 1953 F100
http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u294/fedman6098/1953%20Ford%20F100/OldCars001.jpg

Rabbi
10-16-2012, 18:00
The car that gave me the strongest reaction in that time frame was the first gen Lamborghini Diablo. The lines, the beauty, the aggression, it just moved me. I have liked other cars more, I know there have been far better cars, but this car....like that first hit of heroin. I have been chasing that feeling in a car since and have not found it.

http://www.classicitaliancarsforsale.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/15.jpg

....but it still isnt the coolest car, not by a long shot.

The coolest car, (and only by a technicality as it *was* a 48, but customized in modern times. ) is of course, Cadziilla.

http://a4.ec-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/131/d9ae63c736354ab9844a9040feaad384/l.jpg

If you dont like the Cadzilla answer because it is a 48....

I would toss it up between

1972 Ferrari 246 Dino

http://www.goodingco.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/preview/1973_Ferrari_Dino_GT-006_0.jpg

1967 Chevrolet Corvette Sting Ray 427 Convertible

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/a/ac/67_Corvette_427.jpg

Colt Seavers 1982 GMC K-2500

http://www.bangshift.com/assets/images/news/2009/Jan/11-17/truck%20%20fall%20guy.jpg

There are so...SO many more but these are on my mind now.

UtahGlocker
10-16-2012, 18:02
http://www.timw.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/04/ice-storm.jpg

:supergrin:

Atomic Punk
10-16-2012, 18:05
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/91/Caparo_T1_British_International_Motorshow_2006_195999165.jpg/800px-Caparo_T1_British_International_Motorshow_2006_195999165.jpg

first thing that comes to mind is the Caparo T1. weighs about 1,000 lbs. and at 155 mph generates almost double its weight in downforce. basically means, if you were crazy enough, and had the right track. you could drive upside down.

one i would actually want to own though is an Ariel Atom.
http://static.cargurus.com/images/site/2009/04/02/12/36/2009_ariel_atom-pic-39436.jpeg

El_Ron1
10-16-2012, 18:05
http://www.retrocycle.com/images/Dunham/superfly2_250.jpg



http://tikiloungetalk.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/supefly-caddy-movie.jpg

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/105/263485629_35eaca36fc.jpg

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_jaCbVWmONDI/ScaiIGBgfHI/AAAAAAAACbA/D10A4pNdwT0/s400/Superfly+Eldorado_Tom+Tindera_5.JPG

Angry Fist
10-16-2012, 18:06
+1 for CadZZilla.

copo9560
10-16-2012, 18:08
I like Detroit muscle cars.

Favorite would be 1970 Hemi Cuda Convertible - probably worth about $1M now. Second would be 1969 ZL1 Camaro, last the Plymouth Superbird with Hemi (I'd settle for the 440 too)

fowl intent
10-16-2012, 18:23
1966 Jaguar XKE

G19Tony
10-16-2012, 18:26
My 68 cougar XR7.

Closely followed by my 78 Plymouth Arrow. :whistling:

Scott3670
10-16-2012, 18:33
Two cars get my vote: a recent Bentley (post 2011) and an Audi R8. Hear me, Santa?

Bruce M
10-16-2012, 18:36
http://www.timw.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/04/ice-storm.jpg

:supergrin:
:rofl::rofl:

CLoft239
10-16-2012, 18:44
I've always been a fan of the K-5 and old Jimmy.

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/12/10/17/e3yve9yp.jpg

Sent from the Titanic. I named my phone "The Titanic" so when I plug it into the computer it says "The Titanic is syncing".

LabTech
10-16-2012, 18:53
http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e379/SewerDog/101.jpg

1-2man
10-16-2012, 18:54
http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e379/SewerDog/101.jpg

One word...drool.

Snaps
10-16-2012, 18:56
for my money
http://i47.tinypic.com/nqrcww.jpg

Paul_J
10-16-2012, 18:56
If money was no the issue I'd own this.

Foose Impression
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b296/PJLOval/Impression.jpg

And this just for fun.
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b296/PJLOval/BadPenny.jpg

Screaming .357G
10-16-2012, 19:14
Im partial to the 1970 camaro ;)

itisbruno
10-16-2012, 19:20
http://www.greene-shipman.org/Batmobile10.jpg



http://www.greene-shipman.org/batmobile2.jpg



http://www.greene-shipman.org/Batmobile3.jpg



http://www.greene-shipman.org/Batmobile5.jpg

kiole
10-16-2012, 19:21
http://static.cargurus.com/images/site/2009/04/02/12/36/2009_ariel_atom-pic-39436.jpeg

Ariel atom

porschedog
10-16-2012, 19:54
Two candidates
Porsche 911
Jeep Grand Wagoneer
(I am biased in that I own one of each)

BEER
10-16-2012, 20:04
as much as i love my rat rods and pickup trucks for all time coolest car i'd have to say i've never seen a car with quite as much "WOW" factor as the classic 1967 stingray.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v491/SCOWL1313/vehicles/stingray-12.jpg

Rabbi
10-16-2012, 20:09
as much as i love my rat rods and pickup trucks for all time coolest car i'd have to say i've never seen a car with quite as much "WOW" factor as the classic 1967 stingray.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v491/SCOWL1313/vehicles/stingray-12.jpg

....that is a 63 :whistling:

moeman
10-16-2012, 20:16
sex on wheels
http://www.motorstown.com/images/talbot-lago-t150-ss-01.jpg

janice6
10-16-2012, 20:17
I'm old, and have to go with the AC Cobra.

Clutch Cargo
10-16-2012, 20:18
I drove one of Carl Lindner's Stutz Bearcats and is WAS cool. But I have to go with a car cool enough for James Bond, an Aston Martin.

Clutch Cargo
10-16-2012, 20:19
....that is a 63 :whistling:

Yup, the iconic split window was a 1963.

Hines57
10-16-2012, 20:26
http://pic40.picturetrail.com:80/VOL369/9440780/23695467/398843846.jpg

JMS
10-16-2012, 20:37
Mclaren f1

michael_b
10-16-2012, 20:40
MCLAREN F1

http://images.thecarconnection.com/med/mclaren-f1_100187533_m.jpg



THE BATMOBILE

http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5344/7228758098_f6c1faf3ba_b.jpg
I got this shot in Overland Park KS this summer.

GVFlyer
10-16-2012, 20:58
Lamborghini Sesto Elemento

http://www.letitflow.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/Lamborghini-sesto-elemento.jpg

http://www.caranddriver.com/news/lamborghini-news-lamborghini-sesto-elemento-concept

BEER
10-16-2012, 21:02
....that is a 63 :whistling:

yeah it is, i typed 67 on accident. lol

RC-RAMIE
10-16-2012, 21:08
F40


....

HollowHead
10-16-2012, 21:29
Any Morgan of any year. HH

hamster
10-16-2012, 21:48
Veyron </thread>

HollowHead
10-16-2012, 21:54
The only true measure of a car is lateral acceleration. HH

NeverMore1701
10-16-2012, 22:05
http://www.lp112.com/images/cars/Countach/1984%20Black%20Countach%20LP500S%20ZA9C00500ELA12673%20(ebay)%20View%201.jpg

tim12232
10-16-2012, 22:35
I love almost all the cars shown here, but just to throw something different in the mix....

The Toyota Supra Mk4
http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc6/c58.0.403.403/p403x403/223301_422153141181398_2124801484_n.jpg

Ill find a video of the noise it makes!

bthomp12
10-16-2012, 23:02
My personal favorite custom car:

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=4103&stc=1&d=1205695041




http://www.hotrod.com/featuredvehicles/113_0504_1969_chevrolet_camaro/viewall.html

Glock40man
10-17-2012, 01:56
http://pic40.picturetrail.com:80/VOL369/9440780/23695467/398843846.jpg

:agree:

bigchuck83
10-17-2012, 02:12
http://i589.photobucket.com/albums/ss332/bigchuck83918/Dodge_Charger_RT_1969_02.jpg

1969 Dodge Charger, not much i wouldn't give for one.

Clutch Cargo
10-17-2012, 02:25
Im partial to the 1970 camaro ;)

The 70 1/2 with the split bumper?

itisbruno:

Russ Martin's Mach 5, Batmobile, and General Lee - that's probably his show Batmobile as he's got a daily driver

http://img454.imageshack.us/img454/2686/russmartincarsmh3.jpg


Any Morgan of any year. HH

You must love maintaining wooden frames?

Atlas
10-17-2012, 03:30
Credit given for spanking the Euro-weenies:

http://static.cargurus.com/images/site/2012/01/22/23/30/1967_ford_gt40-pic-1267327659164254298.jpeg

wingryder
10-17-2012, 05:44
How about the Konigsegg CCXR?

http://chrisoncars.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/koenigseggccxr.jpg

Bruce M
10-17-2012, 05:47
If for no other reason than having helped insure that there is at least a possibility that coolest car on the planet does not have an air cooled rear engine http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/83/WWII-jeep-with-M100-trailer-potsdam.gif

Clutch Cargo
10-17-2012, 05:56
1969 Mach 1 428SCJ

http://www.muscularmustangs.com/images6/barrettjackson449.jpg

SC Tiger
10-17-2012, 06:10
1967 Chevrolet Corvette Sting Ray 427 Convertible

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/a/ac/67_Corvette_427.jpg



This.

A few other candidates:

The original Shelby GT500
The orginal Shelby Cobra
(I have a weakness for small cars that are seriously overpowered)
Dodge Charger Daytona/Plymouth Superbird (cool and rare as ####)
Wayne Enterprises Tumbler (was outside the time period though) :supergrin:

SC Tiger
10-17-2012, 06:11
How about the Konigsegg CCXR?

http://chrisoncars.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/koenigseggccxr.jpg

Only if it has the Top Gear Rear Wing. Otherwise it's a death trap. :tongueout:

eracer
10-17-2012, 06:20
Meh...

So many badass cars in this thread. I guess the definition of 'cool' has changed a lot over the years.

Really, if you were invited to a party at the Playboy Mansion, would you rather show up in a run-of-the-mill supercar, or this, the 'coolest' car ever made.

1937 Horch 853 Voll & Ruhrbeck Sport Cabriolet.

http://www.sportscardigest.com/wp-content/uploads/pebble-beach-best-of-show-5.jpg

http://www.supercars.net/gallery/119513/2137/877814.jpg

http://www.supercars.net/gallery/119513/2137/877821.jpg


This is the coolest car that mere mortals could own. 1961 Lincoln Continental.

http://memimage.cardomain.com/member_images/11/web/2531000-2531999/2531566_15_full.jpg

Hauptmann6
10-17-2012, 06:35
Early model Jag E type convertible.

Or the GT40 as stated before.

I won't go into pure racing cars as I wouldn't shut up all day.

slick64
10-17-2012, 07:16
Cadzilla, but a close second to drive, I'd go McLaren F1.

GreenDrake
10-17-2012, 07:27
I always loved the classic 65 Mustang hard top my folks brought me home from the hospital in, as well as my all time fave the 63 Split Stinger Vette. My cousin has one of these sex on wheels rides, a 62 Ferarri GTO 250, this thing is all motor and with headers coming out from under the doors, as loud as it gets.

http://www.autowp.ru/pictures/ferrari/250/autowp.ru_ferrari_250_gto_(series_i)_7.jpg

whoflungdo
10-17-2012, 07:35
I've always loved the Gull-Wing Mercedes...

http://m.images.boldride.com/mercedes-benz/1956/1956-mercedes-benz-300-sl-gullwing.2000x1328.Dec-21-2011_22.55.00.147175.jpg

GreenDrake
10-17-2012, 07:43
I have always liked the Porsche 356 too

http://www.collectormotors.com/cars_sold/bug/02.jpg

686Owner
10-17-2012, 08:01
One of my favorites I haven't seen mentioned yet (I'm also partial to the Countache, 60's Challenger and McLaren F1).

http://images.myride.com/images/non-vehicle/Places/Motorsport%20Facilities/Delorean%20Motor%20Company/staff/Delorean_Factory_OB_60_(544x408).jpg

dbcooper
10-17-2012, 08:08
http://www.supercars.net/Pics?viewCarPic=y&source=carGal&carID=1448&pgID=1&pID=956824

1970 Plymouth Hemi Cuda

SC Tiger
10-17-2012, 08:30
One of my favorites I haven't seen mentioned yet (I'm also partial to the Countache, 60's Challenger and McLaren F1).

http://images.myride.com/images/non-vehicle/Places/Motorsport%20Facilities/Delorean%20Motor%20Company/staff/Delorean_Factory_OB_60_(544x408).jpg

I've got a friend with one of those.

Funny story - when the Delorean plant had a labor strike, the workers took one of the front fender dies (left I think) and threw it into the ocean (I think)! As a result you cannot get new left front fenders for a Delorean. They also tend to get stolen (not sure why you wouldn't just steal the entire car).

Also, you can't do traditional small-dent repair on them (fiberglass or bondo) since they aren't painted. Some people use these products and then paint the cars but a gentleman has (had?) a business in Texas where he could repair any body panel to like new. He hired a bunch of Pakistani knife makers.

I asked him about getting it fixed. He says anyone that can work on a Volvo can work on it.

686Owner
10-17-2012, 08:59
I've got a friend with one of those.

Funny story - when the Delorean plant had a labor strike, the workers took one of the front fender dies (left I think) and threw it into the ocean (I think)! As a result you cannot get new left front fenders for a Delorean. They also tend to get stolen (not sure why you wouldn't just steal the entire car).

Also, you can't do traditional small-dent repair on them (fiberglass or bondo) since they aren't painted. Some people use these products and then paint the cars but a gentleman has (had?) a business in Texas where he could repair any body panel to like new. He hired a bunch of Pakistani knife makers.

I asked him about getting it fixed. He says anyone that can work on a Volvo can work on it.

A friend of the family owned one. When I was 12 she took me to McDonald's drive thru in it. Cokes do not fit through the window (it only rolls down from the black line down). Of course I had to open the door and walk around and get the drinks. As a 12 year old, I thought it was awesome. :)

JMS
10-17-2012, 09:06
My cousin has one of these sex on wheels rides, a 62 Ferarri GTO 250, this thing is all motor and with headers coming out from under the doors, as loud as it gets.

http://www.autowp.ru/pictures/ferrari/250/autowp.ru_ferrari_250_gto_(series_i)_7.jpg

A)These are pretty rare and pretty expensive $20 mill range, you sure he has one?

B)Headers coming out from under the door?

vart
10-17-2012, 09:48
Rabbi already mentioned Cadzilla, which was my first thought... 2nd are the 70 and 71 Ford Torino GTs and Cobras. Ever since I first saw one, I fell in love with the body lines..

http://stoneylonesomecustoms.com/images/main2.jpg

Which of course explains why I love this car:

http://www.getyourfilmfix.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/O3.jpeg

Bill Powell
10-17-2012, 09:51
Here's one of my contributions. The picture was taken at the Festival Italiano in Houston. You decide whin one I like.

Anyone know why the 63 Vette was a split window and the 64 was not? Originally those were going to open, for access to the cargo area but ran out of time. Then they decided not to do it at all so the center bar was dropped in the 64. Once the 64 showed upa lot of the 63 owners sawed out the center bar and went to the one piece window.

SC Tiger
10-17-2012, 09:59
:dunno:Here's one of my contributions. The picture was taken at the Festival Italiano in Houston. You decide whin one I like.

Anyone know why the 63 Vette was a split window and the 64 was not? Originally those were going to open, for access to the cargo area but ran out of time. Then they decided not to do it at all so the center bar was dropped in the 64. Once the 64 showed upa lot of the 63 owners sawed out the center bar and went to the one piece window.

I did not realize they were going to make the rear windows open at first. The split bar was also considered a safety hazard since it hampered rear visibility. The split window cars are quite desirable now though.

stravis
10-17-2012, 10:48
There's no excuse for this thread getting to page three before this was posted. I'm disappointed.
Credit given for spanking the Euro-weenies:

http://static.cargurus.com/images/site/2012/01/22/23/30/1967_ford_gt40-pic-1267327659164254298.jpeg

Glock30Eric
10-17-2012, 11:34
http://www.bmwe36blog.com/images/photos/avus-blue-bmw-e36-m3/avus-blue-bmw-e36-m3-05.jpg

Best handling car and body chasis ever. 240 hp sucks, but you could go up to 1100 hp with mods.

686Owner
10-17-2012, 11:42
Here's one of my contributions. The picture was taken at the Festival Italiano in Houston. You decide whin one I like.



Probably not the same one I like.

HollowHead
10-17-2012, 11:50
You must love maintaining wooden frames?

Any car that requires termite extermination as routine maintenance exudes cool. HH

SteveM
10-17-2012, 11:54
Rabbi, a Dino really??? Real Ferrari's are front engine and 12 cylinder.
1972 365 gt Daytona spyder. Red on Tan with wire wheels.

Although I do like Colt Seavers GMC......Honorable mention....John Bakers GMC from Chips

If we're talking race cars, as much as I love the GT-40 It's a 917 hands down. beautiful and brutally fast

jtull7
10-17-2012, 11:59
Upon the release of the Jaguar XKE, Enzo Ferrari called it: "The most beautiful car ever made." I agree.

Here was mine:

http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t107/jtull8/scan0025.jpg

Rinspeed
10-17-2012, 12:14
So many great choices but I'm going with the LS-6.





http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y29/Rinspeed/LS-6.jpg

eruby
10-17-2012, 12:25
http://fearofaghostplanet.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/The-Car1.jpgI see what you did there.

SC Tiger
10-17-2012, 12:33
Meh...

So many badass cars in this thread. I guess the definition of 'cool' has changed a lot over the years.

Really, if you were invited to a party at the Playboy Mansion, would you rather show up in a run-of-the-mill supercar, or this, the 'coolest' car ever made.

1937 Horch 853 Voll & Ruhrbeck Sport Cabriolet.

http://www.sportscardigest.com/wp-content/uploads/pebble-beach-best-of-show-5.jpg

http://www.supercars.net/gallery/119513/2137/877814.jpg

http://www.supercars.net/gallery/119513/2137/877821.jpg


This is the coolest car that mere mortals could own. 1961 Lincoln Continental.

http://memimage.cardomain.com/member_images/11/web/2531000-2531999/2531566_15_full.jpg

The Continental is cool, but that Voll & Ruhrbeck is absolutely beautiful.

schild
10-17-2012, 12:40
http://www.scottschildgen.com/Other/What-a-long-strange-trip-its/i-ZHjTBsc/0/L/Jaguar-Xk-E-type-Roadster-1966-L.jpg

1966 Jaguar E type Roadster
(It was red!)

M&P15T
10-17-2012, 12:48
Back when I was a kid, I lusted after one of these. A high-school classmate got to drive his mom's, but the bastidge never let me drive it.

For it's day, it was quite advanced, with 4 wheel independant suspension, 4 wheel discs w/ABS, electrically adjustable suspension, 190HP 2.3L intercooled and turbo-charged 4cyl, kickin' sound system (for it's day) with an adjustable equalizer, leather, moon-roof, 5SPD......

Not really the most cool, just what I'd love to own a mint copy of now.

http://memimage.cardomain.com/ride_images/3/2175/1861/30435930001_large.jpg

SteveM
10-17-2012, 13:11
T-bird turbo coupe. Nice, like the SVO Mustangs and Merkurs.......They all had the 2.3 Pinto motor. The 2.3 was an excellent motor for is was.

When I was in highschool had classmate with a '88 T-bird turbo coupe, my '83 5.0 'Stang smoked it every time

I do like those 83- 89 T-birds. the were bullets on the race track, anyone here remember Earnhardt at Talladega in '84? He drove Bud Moore's FORD to victory lane.

M&P15T
10-17-2012, 13:17
T-bird turbo coupe. Nice, like the SVO Mustangs and Merkurs.......They all had the 2.3 Pinto motor. The 2.3 was an excellent motor for is was.

I did own an Merkur xr4ti, like below. But it was old and tired, and the manifold leaked where the turbo attached, despite my attempts at shade-tree mechanic solutions (installing 3 gaskets to take-up the space and seal it.)
http://www.stinger-performance.com/Pics/Merkur1.jpg

unit1069
10-17-2012, 13:19
I'm old, and have to go with the AC Cobra.

Yep, the greatest car ever built. (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e8/Shelby_AC_427_Cobra_vl_blue.jpg)

SC Tiger
10-17-2012, 13:19
Back when I was a kid, I lusted after one of these. A high-school classmate got to drive his mom's, but the bastidge never let me drive it.

For it's day, it was quite advanced, with 4 wheel independant suspension, 4 wheel discs w/ABS, electrically adjustable suspension, 190HP 2.3L intercooled and turbo-charged 4cyl, kickin' sound system (for it's day) with an adjustable equalizer, leather, moon-roof, 5SPD......

Not really the most cool, just what I'd love to own a mint copy of now.

http://memimage.cardomain.com/ride_images/3/2175/1861/30435930001_large.jpg

I know where one is, but it's been gutted to run in the "24 Hours of Lemons" races.

M&P15T
10-17-2012, 13:23
I know where one is, but it's been gutted to run in the "24 Hours of Lemons" races.

I was at a Roush open house at their Livonia MI. location a few years back. In their collection is the 1988 Turbo Coupe that was used to win the C&D Car of The Year award. Talk about mint.

Made me drool like a retard.:rofl::rofl:

56belair
10-17-2012, 13:24
http://streetlegaltv.com/photos/data/506/fgeneral_lee_jump.jpg

Snaps
10-17-2012, 13:54
THE BATMOBILE

http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5344/7228758098_f6c1faf3ba_b.jpg
I got this shot in Overland Park KS this summer.
I would like to change my vote
When I initially read this I thought it was about real cars. I saw those batmobiles during the filming, by far the coolest car ever built.

GreenDrake
10-17-2012, 13:58
A)These are pretty rare and pretty expensive $20 mill range, you sure he has one?

B)Headers coming out from under the door?

Yes, I am sure. He has collected all kinds of Ferarris, I think current inventory is a 308gtb, a 400i, 348, F40, a 550 Maranello and what he calls the "holy grail", his 62 GTO 250. When he purchased it, he had followed it for years, since I think there were only 38 or so made by hand. It came with the exhaust under the doors, like in the pic below, you could see the pipe twist under it. It was incredibly loud, after a year or so he opted to put on the standard Monza exhaust out the back.

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2008/09/250gto_lead.jpg

Bill Powell
10-17-2012, 14:01
As I sadi, customs and hand builts count. This one I would sell my firstborn for.

It is called Myth, and it honors the '34 packard. The only thing Packard on it is the original Packard 12 cyl engine, which is coupled to a four speed auto trans. It was inked by Strother MacMinn, the he-coon of all the classic era car designers. Google him, he's quite a guy.

jtmac
10-17-2012, 15:12
http://images.myride.com/images/non-vehicle/Places/Motorsport%20Facilities/Delorean%20Motor%20Company/staff/Delorean_Factory_OB_60_(544x408).jpg

I know there are objectively cooler cars out there, but that's the one for me. I stare in awe at some really great cars, but a DeLorean makes me excited like a little kid.

Funny story - when the Delorean plant had a labor strike, the workers took one of the front fender dies (left I think) and threw it into the ocean (I think)! As a result you cannot get new left front fenders for a Delorean. They also tend to get stolen (not sure why you wouldn't just steal the entire car).

There have been a lot of rumors about this. At least some of the dies are in the sea: They're anchors for fish nets. They were lost when the UK government did the liquidation of the factory assets (which they were strangely eager to do considering that the company would have had investments and been able to continue production. I'm not aware of their reasoning.).

"New" (quotation marks used since any unused parts are from the original factory stock) front left fenders for the DeLorean aren't unavailable, but they are in short supply. I've never heard of any being stolen, but they can sell for a few thousand on eBay.

Bill Powell
10-17-2012, 15:17
another one I like is the 55 studebaker president speedster.

crazycooter91
10-17-2012, 15:41
There's just something about a 1953 F100
http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u294/fedman6098/1953%20Ford%20F100/OldCars001.jpg

This



I've also been a big fan of fox body mustangs and 1st gen ford lightnings

TK-421
10-17-2012, 15:55
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_i_AovfzNXgQ/TCJYiF77pmI/AAAAAAABN2A/AnYvQ9voOXw/s1600/DSCN0838.JPG

Clem Eastwood
10-17-2012, 16:05
my buddy and his dad with the 64 ferrari gto that Phil Hill won the 12 hours of daytona and sebring with.

http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r255/cab0154/rickGTO.jpg

1954 ferrari 750 monza sn 0498m, same friend owned it.

http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r255/cab0154/0498m-3.jpg

i also like the 65-66 gt 350s

http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r255/cab0154/gt350-1.jpg

and who can forget the 6 shelby cobra daytonas.

http://thecarsource.com/shelby/cobra/daytona/images/csx2287_a.jpg

or the 69 zl1 camaros built in 1969....

http://goldenagegems.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/69-camaro-zl1.jpg

Clem Eastwood
10-17-2012, 16:06
i also like the early group 2 (which later became the trans am series) 66-67 coupes....

http://www.ponysite.de/66_titus_riverside_ford.jpg

http://www.supercars.net/gallery/119513/2883/1045453.jpg

http://www.ponysite.de/66notchbackshelby.jpg

tantrix
10-17-2012, 16:18
Pretty much anything built before 1970.

My fav: 1966 Chevelle SS 396

Two words...bad ass.

http://americanmusclecar.files.wordpress.com/2011/02/1966-chevelle-ss396.jpg

RonS
10-17-2012, 16:55
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/6a/Duesenberg_Convertible_SJ_LA_Grand_Dual-Cowl_Phaeton_1935.jpg/800px-Duesenberg_Convertible_SJ_LA_Grand_Dual-Cowl_Phaeton_1935.jpg

Always thought one of these is what Doc Savage would have driven.
1935 Duesenberg

hpracing007
10-17-2012, 17:08
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/89/Maybach-exelero-stuttgart.jpg/800px-Maybach-exelero-stuttgart.jpg

Rabbi
10-17-2012, 17:10
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/89/Maybach-exelero-stuttgart.jpg/800px-Maybach-exelero-stuttgart.jpg

This was close to being on my list. Amazing car.

TK-421
10-17-2012, 17:19
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/6a/Duesenberg_Convertible_SJ_LA_Grand_Dual-Cowl_Phaeton_1935.jpg/800px-Duesenberg_Convertible_SJ_LA_Grand_Dual-Cowl_Phaeton_1935.jpg

Always thought one of these is what Doc Savage would have driven.
1935 Duesenberg

I've always been amused by those side mirrors attached to the spares. You basically lose a mirror if you get a flat, which sucks, but it does look nice. That era of cars is definitely one of my favorites.

Bill Powell
10-18-2012, 08:02
I like that Duesenberg. I've driven it many times.

I really like Cadzilla. Billy Gibbons told me one day that project just got out of hand. Initially it was not meant to be that radical. They went to Arizona and bought the most rust free, straightest 48 Cadillac Sedannette they could find, and about the only part of the donor car not altered was up above the windshield. Either way it's a nice car.

Here is the Myth, a custom done by a guy I know inChicago. They call it a 34 Packard, but the only thing Packard on it is the V12 engine which is attached to afour speed automatic transmission.

Bill Powell
10-18-2012, 08:33
nursetim showed a car I like. GM or Holden almost put it into production, honoring the Buick Y Job from 1938, You can see where Buick got their grille through the forties. Unlike most modern concept cars this one was driven on the street for many years.

nursetim
10-18-2012, 09:13
It was Holden of Australia. I've always loved the styling of that begone era but would like to marry the convienances of today's cars.

Bill Powell
10-18-2012, 09:47
It got real close to production, but I guess the bean counters finally won.

TheExplorer
10-18-2012, 10:02
Ferrari F40
https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSjo996a0wTxOIfF9J6JA0lNPV4yYH7iQ2ieopT86j2z7t4douW

Mercedes AMG Hammer
https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRhtk-ITe1msTmBBwvcXit7HeT1S_aZBJ2j_zfw6CtZ41cUWDQf

Flying-Dutchman
10-18-2012, 18:14
GM really had their act together between 1966 and 1969.

1966-67 Buick Riviera, one of my favorites.
http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2536/3876504275_dc1d4f900a_b.jpg

That's all Brother
10-18-2012, 19:07
as much as i love my rat rods and pickup trucks for all time coolest car i'd have to say i've never seen a car with quite as much "WOW" factor as the classic 1967 stingray.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v491/SCOWL1313/vehicles/stingray-12.jpg
I was told by a friend that Chevy made kits to convert the split window into a one pc. because they had a hard time selling them. I told him BS, any truth to that?

Rabbi
10-18-2012, 19:16
I was told by a friend that Chevy made kits to convert the split window into a one pc. because they had a hard time selling them. I told him BS, any truth to that?

Corvette sales were up over 30% because of the 63 year model and, at that time, was the best selling year in the 10 year history of Corvette. Chevy did introduce a replacement...but it had nothing to do with sales.

You need smarter friends.

Bill Powell
10-18-2012, 19:20
kits were available. No one liked the split window that much. I don't know if the one piece window was a deciding factor on any sales.

Kind of like the early fuel injection units. I'd love to find the dumpster all those parts were tossed in.

Atlas
10-18-2012, 19:25
James Dean raced (and perished in) one of these:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/83/Porsche_550_Spyder_(1500_RS).jpg

That's all Brother
10-18-2012, 19:34
Corvette sales were up over 30% because of the 63 year model and, at that time, was the best selling year in the 10 year history of Corvette. Chevy did introduce a replacement...but it had nothing to do with sales.

You need smarter friends.
Well, he was half BSing me. I knew he was wrong about sales, but didn't know about the kit.
Thanks for the info.

Harper
10-18-2012, 19:57
Haven't seen the Miura yet.
http://www.topcarrating.com/lamborghini/1971-lamborghini-miura-p400-sv-8.jpg

Rabbi
10-18-2012, 21:35
Haven't seen the Miura yet.
http://www.topcarrating.com/lamborghini/1971-lamborghini-miura-p400-sv-8.jpg

While not at the top of my list, the Muira is damned close to being there. Wicked cool car.

Lone_Wolfe
10-18-2012, 23:19
I know ther're crappy cars, but I've always had a thing for DeLoreans.

Lone_Wolfe
10-18-2012, 23:23
http://streetlegaltv.com/photos/data/506/fgeneral_lee_jump.jpg

Does anyone know how many of those things they tore up doing that show?

Bill Powell
10-19-2012, 07:28
It was in the thirties, I think. They trashed about eighteen trying to do that jump in the program lead-off.

There used to be a black guy in San Antonio that drove a carbon copy of that car as his daily driver. Well, it almost exact. Above the door, instead of General Lee, It said General Leeroy, or Leroi. I don't remember which.

True story.

Bill Powell
10-19-2012, 08:49
Anyone remember Rita Hayworth? Well, this was her ride for awhile. It's a customized 1953 Cadillac. Way cool car.

Bill Powell
10-19-2012, 08:54
I gotta stop pushing the wrong submit button.

try it again, 1953 Cadillac

I also like this cab-over Ford

Bruce M
10-19-2012, 09:47
Upon the release of the Jaguar XKE, Enzo Ferrari called it: "The most beautiful car ever made." I agree.

Here was mine:

http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t107/jtull8/scan0025.jpg

There is a certain timeless elegance of the XKE; it never looks old.

FTjoe
10-19-2012, 10:46
1967 ferrari 275GTB/4. red or course. love those lines & she looks great too. its my (only) bucket list car to own, but with prices going through the roof, i'd settle for just driving it for a day.

also love the lines of the E39 bodied BMW M5.

Bill Powell
10-19-2012, 11:24
I put air conditioning in a Ferrari 275GTB-4 once and it was black. I worked on several 275 Ferraris before I saw a red one. Tehe restoration shops are responsible for all those red older Ferraris. One collection I worked for had eighteen Testa Rossas, and only about half of them were red.

Bill Powell
10-19-2012, 11:59
I aint looking forward to it but when I die maybe I'll get a ride in this.

My family can ride in this Mustang limo

56belair
10-19-2012, 12:10
Atleast pick one with a supercharger on it.

Bill Powell
10-19-2012, 12:43
but I dont like purple

SC Tiger
10-19-2012, 13:44
Does anyone know how many of those things they tore up doing that show?

Somewhere around 400 over the show's run, I think.

SC Tiger
10-19-2012, 13:50
I was at a Roush open house at their Livonia MI. location a few years back. In their collection is the 1988 Turbo Coupe that was used to win the C&D Car of The Year award. Talk about mint.

Made me drool like a retard.:rofl::rofl:

I'm a GM man but I always liked the T-bird turbo coupe.

I am told that the turbo can also be fitted to either the 302 or 351 - I'm not sure which but obviously you'd need two.

07 LMB Z06
10-19-2012, 13:53
Brutus! Although the F40 or McLaren F1-LM are admittedly cooler cars (and I'd have both before this), this thing is the coolest in a novelty sort of way.

http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg264/crahockey11/brutus.jpg

robertoh
10-19-2012, 14:03
My 55 Desoto,black and White exterior and B&W Interior.

FTjoe
10-19-2012, 15:42
I put air conditioning in a Ferrari 275GTB-4 once and it was black. I worked on several 275 Ferraris before I saw a red one. Tehe restoration shops are responsible for all those red older Ferraris. One collection I worked for had eighteen Testa Rossas, and only about half of them were red.

did you get to drive it? if so, how was it?

just something about colors identifying manufacturers. red=ferrari; green=jags; silver=porsche.

Hauptmann6
10-19-2012, 16:03
did you get to drive it? if so, how was it?

just something about colors identifying manufacturers. red=ferrari; green=jags; silver=porsche.

The colors aren't anything to do with the manufacture. It's all to do with the country that the race team/driver/sometimes the car itself are from.

Britain is green
Germany - White (the silver came from a German F1 team in the 30s, the car was overweight so they stripped the paint to get it to legal weight)
France - Blue
Italy - Red
Belgium - Yellow
US - Blue on white (many teams varied on this and made the main color blue with white stripes)

So the Belgian team Ecurie Francorchamps were racing a Ferrari 512 it would be painted yellow.

w30olds
10-19-2012, 16:08
I've always loved the 1966 Mustang fastbacks. Also love the 1966 Chevy Nova

Bill Powell
10-19-2012, 16:53
Italy's racing colors were red, but is was dark red.

Bill Powell
10-19-2012, 16:59
Sure I drove it FTjoe. I've driven Daytonas, F40, 288, 250
GTO, Boxers, all kinds, back to 1949. Tons of torque and a wonderful sound.

Lone_Wolfe
10-19-2012, 23:57
Somewhere around 400 over the show's run, I think.

Sacrilige! :crying:

Bill Powell
10-20-2012, 03:18
Not so much sacrilege. They were all junk yard rejects. A whole bunch of Bondo (bodywork in a can) paint it, and don't do any close-up shots.

faawrenchbndr
10-20-2012, 03:50
May not be the coolest on the planet,.....but my Wife sure likes her MGB.

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c341/faawrenchbndr/1a5c5fc068dcf8aab5f5e10b8e533f00.jpg

M&P15T
10-20-2012, 05:37
I'm a GM man but I always liked the T-bird turbo coupe.

I am told that the turbo can also be fitted to either the 302 or 351 - I'm not sure which but obviously you'd need two.

Well, sure, you could. But the weight would ruin the handling.

If I could, I'd start with a mint copy, and build the internals of the stock motor to handle more boost, with a more efficient intercooler and better engine management.

I'd bet that aftermarket stuff exists to get those 2.3L Turbos to an easy and safe, tractable 300HP (with good torque), and that's all you'd need. Hell, I even bet some company is making knock-offs of the original style wheels in larger sizes, so you can keep the factory look, and have larger/lower profile wheels & tires for better handling and breaking. It's a realtively light car at 3400lbs, and that's the key stat to keep to.

Some slight improvements to the stock electroincally adjustable suspension, bigger breaks, and you could have one hell of a sweet Grand Tourer.

Bill Powell
10-20-2012, 06:35
I like MGB. I used to put 3.8 and 4.2 Buick V-6 engines in them with that early GM five speed transmission. 5 Speed shifter came right up through the stock MGB shifter boot.

It put a happy little smile on the face of that MGB, and the driver.

M&P15T
10-20-2012, 07:12
I like MGB. I used to put 3.8 and 4.2 Buick V-6 engines in them with that early GM five speed transmission. 5 Speed shifter came right up through the stock MGB shifter boot.

It put a happy little smile on the face of that MGB, and the driver.

Please share more.

I'm unaware of any GM 5SPD Buick used with their V6s, manual/auto?.....what model year drive trains are you referring to? Did you make things like the motor/trans mounts yourself? What about all the rest, like intake, exhaust, engine management stuff?

mdmountainman
10-20-2012, 07:25
http://www.terrafugia.com228483

Bill Powell
10-20-2012, 11:15
M&P15T, One car that comes to mind is Olds Cutlass 1978/79 with the 260 cu in v-8. It was also available in the Pontiac Sunbird, The Monza, and the Buick Skyhawk, andother applications. I'm including a picture of the trans. The much more modern Chevy S10 4.3 and 5 speed may be a better way to go. The V-6 of choice was the Buick as long as it is the even fire engine. That came about seventy eight. I used a Triumph slave cylinder cause the MGB had too short a stroke. Fabricated the exhaust manifolds, and routed the exhaust likea 57 Lincoln Mk II Continental. Fuel management was a Carburetor and a distributor. Used a Pinto style hanging gas pedal and cable throttle.

If you are interested in thsi I can show you some more modern ways to go.

Bill Powell
10-20-2012, 11:17
forgot the trans

hpracing007
10-20-2012, 12:20
I thought German was silver and Japan was white, at least in modern times.

Bruce M
10-20-2012, 13:52
Brutus! Although the F40 or McLaren F1-LM are admittedly cooler cars (and I'd have both before this), this thing is the coolest in a novelty sort of way.

http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg264/crahockey11/brutus.jpg

Mavis might be in the same novelty cool group

Packard powered Bentley Flames - YouTube



May not be the coolest on the planet,.....but my Wife sure likes her MGB.

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c341/faawrenchbndr/1a5c5fc068dcf8aab5f5e10b8e533f00.jpg
Another car with very timeless lines and styling.

Hauptmann6
10-20-2012, 14:10
I thought German was silver and Japan was white, at least in modern times.

Germany is still white. Mercedes and Auto Union(Audi and VW) use silver due to tradition.

Japan is white with red accent(usually the rising sun).

But it hasn't been followed since the favorite color became SPONSOR in the mid/late 60s.

hpracing007
10-20-2012, 15:00
Germany is still white. Mercedes and Auto Union(Audi and VW) use silver due to tradition.

Japan is white with red accent(usually the rising sun).

But it hasn't been followed since the favorite color became SPONSOR in the mid/late 60s.

Ah okay, thanks. And now come to think of it, the BMW M cars are usually presented in white.

TheExplorer
10-20-2012, 15:04
Doesn't meet the year criteria, but this is just state-of-the-art in every way.
https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRX8v5Yf6F2h6FdXBJkQBPIrDjFZxFtMqECLdzROY8ac5H2AqRP
https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTglE9K9KGcXrF2qQBEcSJTgM3zAtkK8KDBLS3pT972t_C8YUgePw
https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQMloK3aZBFFZ4uTDdazZ4T_JSMRACIotHPxdszOaRg305IpqTb

Recalcitrant
10-20-2012, 17:46
First car on my wall:

http://znnonline.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/1981_lamborghini_countach-pic-2496379718076193637.jpg

But it's hard to get cooler than:

http://www.navtones.com/media/image/real-kitt-start-scene-7545632.jpg

DanaT
10-20-2012, 18:06
I have only ever seen one of these on the street:

http://www.supercars.net/gallery/125880/482/18250.jpg

That car is just plain neat.

And another favorite of mine:

http://www.ultimatecarpage.com/images/large/3916/Porsche-959-Sport_4.jpg

Bruce M
10-20-2012, 18:15
http://www.allfordmustangs.com/forums/attachments/94-95-tech/65761d1238813355-lambo-doors-sn-95-lambo-doors-so-played-out.jpg

Bruce M
10-20-2012, 18:19
Outside of the age range but fun to contemplate http://cache.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/12/2011/11/eb7a4618a888208be78142a5911964f0.jpg

harleypilot
10-20-2012, 20:01
My favorite is my first car: a 1955 Chevy Bel Air.

DanaT
10-20-2012, 20:08
The car that gave me the strongest reaction in that time frame was the first gen Lamborghini Diablo. The lines, the beauty, the aggression, it just moved me. I have liked other cars more, I know there have been far better cars, but this car....like that first hit of heroin. I have been chasing that feeling in a car since and have not found it.

http://www.classicitaliancarsforsale.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/15.jpg


Those are real head turners. Pictures of a diablo dont do it justice. They dont show how low and wide they are.

Clutch Cargo
10-20-2012, 20:16
Haven't seen the Miura yet.
http://www.topcarrating.com/lamborghini/1971-lamborghini-miura-p400-sv-8.jpg

I got to drive a 1973 Miura to my high school prom. :tongueout:

Clutch Cargo
10-20-2012, 20:20
http://www.allfordmustangs.com/forums/attachments/94-95-tech/65761d1238813355-lambo-doors-sn-95-lambo-doors-so-played-out.jpg

HollowHead
10-20-2012, 20:45
http://www.allfordmustangs.com/forums/attachments/94-95-tech/65761d1238813355-lambo-doors-sn-95-lambo-doors-so-played-out.jpg

Someone needs to explain to me why you would do this to a four-door yet keep the rear ones side opening. Oddly enough, they're surrounded by women who seem to draw their lips and eyebrows in with Sharpies... HH

Tacoma12
10-20-2012, 21:22
Toyota Lancruiser FJ40 from the 70's-80's. Always wanted one.

Lone_Wolfe
10-21-2012, 02:00
Not so much sacrilege. They were all junk yard rejects. A whole bunch of Bondo (bodywork in a can) paint it, and don't do any close-up shots.

That's not so bad. I'll bet it was fun to be the stunt driver. :rofl: :rofl:

NeverMore1701
10-21-2012, 02:49
First car on my wall:

http://znnonline.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/1981_lamborghini_countach-pic-2496379718076193637.jpg



I like the black one I posted better :supergrin:

Recalcitrant
10-21-2012, 05:27
I like the black one I posted better :supergrin:

Truth be told, so do I, but I wanted to post a different picture to reinforce that car's awesomeness.

eracer
10-21-2012, 05:46
Pretty much anything built before 1970.

My fav: 1966 Chevelle SS 396

Two words...bad ass.

http://americanmusclecar.files.wordpress.com/2011/02/1966-chevelle-ss396.jpg
If I could only own one classic muscle car, that would be the one.

It was my very first experience with a fast car. Back in 1969, my babysitter's boyfriend took me for a ride in his, and played the dollar bill game, telling me I could have it if I could reach forward and grab it as he punched the throttle.

The feeling of being pinned back in the seat was a memory I carried with me forever. I know that there are plenty of cars today that can do the same thing for half of what a 1966 Chevelle SS396 would cost me today.

But you are right. BAD ASS!

eracer
10-21-2012, 05:49
Haven't seen the Miura yet.
http://www.topcarrating.com/lamborghini/1971-lamborghini-miura-p400-sv-8.jpg
I thought about posting the Miura. I remember that I stole the issue of Road & Track that featured the Miura from the library, and read it over and over when I was a kid.

One of my all-time faves, for sure, and if I had the money I'd own one, for sure.

eracer
10-21-2012, 05:51
Brutus! Although the F40 or McLaren F1-LM are admittedly cooler cars (and I'd have both before this), this thing is the coolest in a novelty sort of way.

http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg264/crahockey11/brutus.jpg
There must have a lot of room in front of the driver, since anyone brave enough to race that thing must have had HUGE balls.

eracer
10-21-2012, 05:56
May not be the coolest on the planet,.....but my Wife sure likes her MGB.

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c341/faawrenchbndr/1a5c5fc068dcf8aab5f5e10b8e533f00.jpg
MGB's are cool, for sure.

I also like the Sunbeam Tiger Mark 2.
Ford 289ci V-8, 4-spd. manual.

http://www.flamindickandthehotrods.com/66_Sunbeam_Tiger__Fred_and_Daisy_sm.jpg

Gareth68
10-21-2012, 06:04
It was summer...somewhere around 1980. We were at the local park, pool. I was around 8 years old.

Now, Conklin NY is not exactly a spot where many exotic vehicles were spotted.

One of these pulled in, and I was drawn towards it.

I blurted something about "is it fast" etc, as he was easing over the speedbump.

Just as he touched down the other side, he gassed it and the two incredibly wide tires left black marks for 6 or so feet until he let off.

It was visceral, the sound, the look...

For me, in my formative years.....this was it.


http://www.dreamroad.us/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/Pantera-DeTomaso-1972.jpg


It still ain't half bad looking.

:wavey:

Bill Powell
10-21-2012, 07:33
eracer, I was just about to open my trap and tell you that Tiger had a 260. Then, before I made afool of myself I saw the MKII. They built a tad over 500 of those puppies. I've never driver one but I hope they have better performance. In the OOquinn collection we had the prototype Tiger. It still had the Alpine fins. It belonged Ken Miles for awhile.

In Tulsa I wired a bunch of cars. I wired street rods, customs, antiques,and even AMPI milk producers semis. They had to wash the trucks so often with strong detergents it destroyed the wiring.

One car I had fun with was a 1960 Alfa Romeo giuliettta spider. It had a brand new Shelby 260 cu in Cobra engine package. When Shelby changed to the 289 in the Cobra he sold the left-over 260 engines. After I finished the wiring I took it out and played with it.

Man, if you got careless that thing would throw you and rope you.

Bill Powell
10-21-2012, 16:21
TheExplorer, do you know what's the worst thing about driving the F40? The worst thing is crawling across that extra wide door sill, crawling over that diagonal body brace that runs sow by the driver's seat, and working your way into a cabin designed around a five foot six inch Italian. Do you know the best thing about driving an F40? The best thing is crawling across that wide door sill and across that diagonal brace and into that cabin designed for a five foot six inch italian, and once you get there you find out it's roomier than it looks.

The really best thing is going west of Houston to Katy and going back to Houston at a silly assed rate of speed with that twin turbo V-8 howling behind your head.

I've said before it's a dirty job but someone had to do it.

DanaT
10-21-2012, 16:29
T

I've said before it's a dirty job but someone had to do it.

This is an acquaintance's car. You might be able to tell something is up with it by looking at the hood.

http://i755.photobucket.com/albums/xx196/ddt951t/PC270038.jpg

http://i755.photobucket.com/albums/xx196/ddt951t/PC270032.jpg

http://i755.photobucket.com/albums/xx196/ddt951t/PC270027.jpg

GlockinNJ
10-21-2012, 16:54
Lots of great cars here, but nothing took my breath away like this did when I first saw it:
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_wlt85sDzmu4/S8n-LLgJ6kI/AAAAAAAAB7E/Xv6ILBUqgBk/s1600/DSC_0396.jpg

Bill Powell
10-21-2012, 16:54
from the background I don't have to guess that he is preparing to make some loud noises. I assusmed the car was in Europe til I saw the American door windows and the US license plate. The European version has fixed door windows with a little sliding acceaa panel.

DanaT
10-21-2012, 17:22
from the background I don't have to guess that he is preparing to make some loud noises. I assusmed the car was in Europe til I saw the American door windows and the US license plate. The European version has fixed door windows with a little sliding acceaa panel.

The exact history of the car is "questionable" but it is an F40LM. Whether it is a real LM or rebuilt to LM specs is where the history is shady.

Here is what the owner says about it:

[url]http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/showthread.php?t=286431[/url}

Of course when that car was racing around here it was always presented as an F40LM and not an F40...

Glockdude1
10-21-2012, 17:34
Lots of great cars here, but nothing took my breath away like this did when I first saw it:
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_wlt85sDzmu4/S8n-LLgJ6kI/AAAAAAAAB7E/Xv6ILBUqgBk/s1600/DSC_0396.jpg

:agree:

Glockdude1
10-21-2012, 17:36
http://www.ferraribeverlyhills.com/media/1731915/458%20italia%20f3q%20630x420.jpg

Just recently I got see one of these up close. I need to win the lotto!!

:supergrin:

GlockinNJ
10-21-2012, 20:26
My new favorite car in the world. That aero-bridge or whatever it's called is very cool...

http://images.freshnessmag.com/wp-content/uploads//2012/03/ferrari-f12-berlinetta-video-0.jpg

Bill Powell
10-21-2012, 21:06
when i first saw the F40 all i saw were the us style doors and i stopped looking.

whether original or dreamed up it is an LM. i don't care for the aftermarket wheels. we had a couple of 308's with them.

Bill Powell
10-22-2012, 09:36
I've driven this 1925 Indy winner. It's powered by a three liter, dual overhead cam, supercharged straight eight.

It's a recreation cause the original car was chopped up by a butcher. No, I mean a real cow cuttin' butcher, whose sideline was repairing or parting out Aubur/Cord/Duesenberg cars. Most of the engine and some body parts are from the original. It was the first car to average over 100mph for the 500 miles...The cockpit is a little cozy for me.

Bill Powell
10-22-2012, 10:41
this is a 1949 Delahaye 175S, real close to my 1950 cut off. Is that not a candidate for the coolest car on the planet?

NOLA_glock
10-22-2012, 16:00
I really like the Porsche 930 and the first BMW M3s. I have a soft spot for 1980s German cars. But if I'm going all out cool, I'd have to pick:

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2007/03/garfield_box_1.jpg
This bad boy, right here.

DanaT
10-22-2012, 16:07
I really like the Porsche 930 and the first BMW M3s. I have a soft spot for 1980s German cars. But if I'm going all out cool, I'd have to pick:

930s take some skill to drive fast. Not forgiving cars.

DustyJacket
10-22-2012, 16:09
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a7/1960s_Batmobile_%28FMC%29.jpg

NOLA_glock
10-22-2012, 16:32
930s take some skill to drive fast. Not forgiving cars.

I've heard that about the older turbos that they really didn't have a problem with taking a quick detour into the trees to prove a point.

Of all of the people I know who've owned a 911 turbo from before the 90s (not many, I guess), exactly 100% of them don't have them anymore because of some pant-****ting wreck where the car decided it doesn't want to put up with that kind of nonsense anymore. There's nothing cooler than driving a car that is actively looking for reasons to kill you.

I've never driven one, myself. :rofl:

DanaT
10-22-2012, 17:19
I've heard that about the older turbos that they really didn't have a problem with taking a quick detour into the trees to prove a point.



Just a point of clarity. A 930 was built from 1975 to 1989. No other 911 turbos are 930s.

The 964, 933, 996, 997 (and upcoming 991) turbos are not 930s.

GlocknSpiehl
10-22-2012, 17:40
I like cars that are a little...um..."out there" LOL

A Neat BMW
http://bit.ly/TOeAUU

Is it a fighter plane? No, but it's a Messerschmidt!
http://bit.ly/wYMC4B

And I loved this show!
http://bit.ly/QCy9Ru

NOLA_glock
10-22-2012, 17:43
Just a point of clarity. A 930 was built from 1975 to 1989. No other 911 turbos are 930s.

The 964, 933, 996, 997 (and upcoming 991) turbos are not 930s.


Right. That's why I said before the 90s. :cheers:

That's all Brother
10-22-2012, 17:54
Rabbi already mentioned Cadzilla, which was my first thought... 2nd are the 70 and 71 Ford Torino GTs and Cobras. Ever since I first saw one, I fell in love with the body lines..

http://stoneylonesomecustoms.com/images/main2.jpg

Which of course explains why I love this car:

http://www.getyourfilmfix.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/O3.jpeg I like the Torinos also. but I love the cyclones, The Cale Yarborough and the Dan Gurney Specials are my favorites

GlockinNJ
10-22-2012, 18:28
1973 Carrera RS with that ducktail spoiler. Sweeeet.

http://files.conceptcarz.com/img/Porsche/73_Porsche_911_Carrera_RS_Cpe_DV-06_PBI-02.jpg

JuneyBooney
10-22-2012, 20:28
http://www.timw.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/04/ice-storm.jpg

:supergrin:

I think that is the winner. :cool:

Bill Powell
10-23-2012, 07:51
In one of the collections I worked for we had A 930 AND A 935 Zimmerman conversion with rear tires 380mm wide.
One day the 930 developed a fueling problem, and since the cars sat around so much I guessed, correctly, that the fuel metering rod has rusted tight. I tore the system apart and cleaned the rod and bore and after putting it back together had to take it for a test drive. The kid in the shop next door wanted to go, and since he had ridden in a street Porsche before had a pre-conceived notion of how the car ran. After it was warm I went up to the end of the block I made a U-turn and on the way back got to 100 mph and stopped in time to pull into my shop. The kid next door wouldn't go near the car.

The 935, the Screaming Yellow Zonker, If the police had known how much fun that car was they would have outlawed it. Damn, that car was quick.

marson3erk
10-23-2012, 12:29
1963 corvette split window coupe. not a 67.
aston martin DB9
lamborghini aventador
In that order.228559

228560

228561

Jgriggs
10-23-2012, 12:34
My car of course.

1991 Camaro.

Runners up include the 67 Stingray, Ferrari 308/328, and 61 caddy.

Bill Powell
10-23-2012, 17:26
GlocknSpiehl, that little red BMW you posted is one of the main reasons BMW is in business today. The car that almost killed them was the 507. It was expensive for what you got and the car had no profit margin.

Then they introduced that little Isetta and sold about a brazillion of them, putting BMW back in the black.

DanaT
10-23-2012, 17:49
In one of the collections I worked for we had A 930 AND A 935 Zimmerman conversion with rear tires 380mm wide.

I assume you are talking about a slantnose street car and not an actual 935?

Actual 935

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/06/Wollek_Porsche_935_2007.jpg

DanaT
10-23-2012, 17:51
1991 Camaro.

That is an interesting car to have as "coolest car on the planet".

I would rate that just ahead of an IROC ( XXX reject out cruising) (reject is the PC version)

Bill Powell
10-23-2012, 19:34
It was a dual turbo with inter-cooler, about 570 hp, 380mm rear tires, waste gate control by the shifter, and was faster than a rattle snake.

I've done two 930 conversions for people, just sheet metal exterior and trim. underneath they were stock as a jug 911.

DanaT
10-23-2012, 19:43
It was a dual turbo with inter-cooler, about 570 hp, 380mm rear tires, waste gate control by the shifter, and was faster than a rattle snake.

I've done two 930 conversions for people, just sheet metal exterior and trim. underneath they were stock as a jug 911.

How did you integrate wastegate control by shifter? My concept for this would be use magnetic proximity switches and run an electronic boost controller with multiple boost settings. I think, really 2 or 3 boost settings that are all thats needed. Probably just a low boost setting for 1st gear and then above that full boost. If course, depending upon traction (and boost) 2nd may have to be dialed back.

Why would someone have a 911 converted into a turbo look? Especially if they did a steel conversion?

A stripped out 930 with 570hp would move. The problem with this: destroying a stock 930.

My estimate is the 930 (especially early ones) are undervalued in the marketplace. I suspect when economy recovers, stock, nice examples will double in price. I think the valuable ones (but slower ones) will be the stock ones.

There is just something so classic about a 930.

Jgriggs
10-23-2012, 22:16
That is an interesting car to have as "coolest car on the planet".

I would rate that just ahead of an IROC ( XXX reject out cruising) (reject is the PC version)


I know, I could lead the parade in discussing all that is wrong with it. However, I grew up on one Navy base after another and when the 80's were in full swing we were living outside the gate at NAS Miramar with all those hot shot Top Gun types. The Third generation Camaros were well represented there. They looked different than anything the 70's offered and just looked like a blast to me. I had to have one, and now I do. It has a special spot for me and always will.

SC Tiger
10-24-2012, 08:18
Here is one:

(From Hooniverse.com)

http://hooniverse.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/i.imgur_.combOZG01.jpg

Glockdude1
10-24-2012, 09:39
Here is one:

(From Hooniverse.com)

http://hooniverse.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/i.imgur_.combOZG01.jpg

Mythbusters project car????

:rofl:

DanaT
10-24-2012, 10:22
I know, I could lead the parade in discussing all that is wrong with it. However, I grew up on one Navy base after another and when the 80's were in full swing we were living outside the gate at NAS Miramar with all those hot shot Top Gun types. The Third generation Camaros were well represented there. They looked different than anything the 70's offered and just looked like a blast to me. I had to have one, and now I do. It has a special spot for me and always will.

Then you need a Porsche 356 and a Ninja 900....

Bill Powell
10-24-2012, 10:33
DanT, I didn't state that clearly enough. The waste gat control was a round aluminum that was mounted close by the shifter. You rotated the knob to control the waste gate. It didn't have a roll cage, but a six point system with diagonal bracing. The fire bottle sat behind the passenger seat and the fire control whammy knob was to the rear of the shifter. Thsi car was fifteen years ago and I'm just listing the points I rember.

I've been looking through my stuff for a photo,but I can't find one.

It had an oversized 930 style whale tail. It looked much like this car except the accent stripes were blue.

JMS
10-24-2012, 11:42
GlocknSpiehl, that little red BMW you posted is one of the main reasons BMW is in business today. The car that almost killed them was the 507. It was expensive for what you got and the car had no profit margin.

Then they introduced that little Isetta and sold about a brazillion of them, putting BMW back in the black.

I thought the 2002 brought them back from the brink vs. the Isetta.

Bill Powell
10-24-2012, 11:46
Crap, I didn't think the first one took.

Bill Powell
10-24-2012, 11:57
JMS, I'm not down playing the role the 2002 played, but if it weren't for the Isetta the 2002 may never have been. They produce over 160,000 Isettas.

DanaT
10-24-2012, 13:26
The waste gat control was a round aluminum that was mounted close by the shifter. You rotated the knob to control the waste gate. It didn't have a roll cage, but a six point system with diagon.

That scares the crap out of me. The problem I have with adjust on the fly are many
1) Boost spikes
2) Too much boost
3) Improper AFR.

Its easy to crank up boost, but without knowing what is going on, it is also easy to cause some serious damage.

When increasing boost, I like to log AFR and boost from a MAP sensor. I need to log MAF voltage too. Once a transfer function is known, HP can be logged (air in = HP).

I bought a Durametric cable and software for one of my cars. It actually logs everything very well without having to go stand alone (although I dont know if it has a wide band). The transfer function is known and it actually logs kg air/hour. Kinda neat function. But I leave my DD stock. Much better idea.

allen13
10-24-2012, 13:54
E30 m3

Mr981
10-24-2012, 15:54
Not that I'm biased..

Bill Powell
10-24-2012, 15:57
WE didn't let anyone drive the car we thought may ignore our instructions to leave crap alone.

As one of over two hundred cars I didn't have time for much one on one with the car. For the time it was built that knob was state of the art. It was even knurled round the edge.

DanaT
10-24-2012, 16:02
It was even knurled round the edge.

:rofl::rofl: That I find humorous.

Now they are anodized. :tongueout:

jakebrake
10-24-2012, 16:04
the red and white 1968 gt500 shelby convert my parents had when i was a kid. it's pass anything but a gas station....

so they traded it in....on a maverick???????

still haven't forgiven them 40 years later.

DanaT
10-24-2012, 16:05
Not that I'm biased..

I want to know how "Mr981" got a screen name for a 981 and 1500 posts....first 981 I saw was in May.

But a 981 doesnt fit the rules of the thread.

They are a sweet looking car. The boxster finally looks aggressive.

There was a 991 at the dealer today. And 3 981s sitting on the lot.

But $118k for a 991? That is high. A few years ago that was turbo territory.

DanaT
10-24-2012, 16:06
t
so they traded it in....on a maverick???????

You probably drove that with pride. :tongueout:

jakebrake
10-24-2012, 16:07
You probably drove that with pride. :tongueout:

nope...traded it in after a year...on a vega....at least that i coulda shoved a grand national motor into, but it got.....stolen..(swear to god) cannibalized for parts)

yeas, some pretty poor taste in cars. after the 55 chev conv they had as newlyweds? a corvair.

the 57 xk-120....that was just outright sold, but, i think he bought an xlch....so, some recovery there.

WIMPY
10-24-2012, 16:24
I love looking at the very nice cars, but most of the time I do not know the brand/names of them. It would be helpful for me and I am sure others if the pictures could be labeled when posted.:dunno:

Clem Eastwood
10-24-2012, 16:24
http://www.ferraribeverlyhills.com/media/1731915/458%20italia%20f3q%20630x420.jpg

Just recently I got see one of these up close. I need to win the lotto!!

:supergrin:

there was a white one of these that still had the paper tags on it at our local 1/8 mile dragstrip last friday night. 7.40s@98 mph.

Hauptmann6
10-24-2012, 16:41
there was a white one of these that still had the paper tags on it at our local 1/8 mile dragstrip last friday night. 7.40s@98 mph.

Quarter or eighth mile? The MPH seems REALLY low for that time. And really, the time seems kinda fast.

Clem Eastwood
10-24-2012, 16:46
Quarter or eighth mile? The MPH seems REALLY low for that time. And really, the time seems kinda fast.

thats what the numbers 1/8 mean in my post :supergrin:

IndianaMatt
10-24-2012, 17:25
There's just something so awesome about old pickups. The 60s Fords were just great, and I will own one someday.

http://0.tqn.com/d/trucks/1/0/h/B/1/1965FordF-100Pickup.jpg

Mr981
10-24-2012, 19:07
I want to know how "Mr981" got a screen name for a 981 and 1500 posts....first 981 I saw was in May.

All you have to do is ask the right person.

But a 981 doesnt fit the rules of the thread.

They are a sweet looking car. The boxster finally looks aggressive.

There was a 991 at the dealer today. And 3 981s sitting on the lot.

But $118k for a 991? That is high. A few years ago that was turbo territory.




I'm thinking Porsche has decided to go upmarket on everything. The 981S base price is nearly $62K delivered; add even a few options and you're pushing $70K.

IIRC, the 991 Carrera-- a great looking car-- is roughly $84K with no options; try finding one on a lot under $90k. Worse, the 911 Turbo S is in the $175K range.
The new 911, from the reports I've read, is a terrific car, much improved over the 997.1 and .2; unfortunately the car has become so expensive I wonder if NA sales will suffer as a result.

DanaT
10-24-2012, 19:12
I'm thinking Porsche has decided to go upmarket on everything. The 981S base price is nearly $62K delivered; add even a few options and you're pushing $70K.

IIRC, the 991 Carrera-- a great looking car-- is roughly $84K with no options; try finding one on a lot under $90k. Worse, the 911 Turbo S is in the $175K range.
The new 911, from the reports I've read, is a terrific car, much improved over the 997.1 and .2; unfortunately the car has become so expensive I wonder if NA sales will suffer as a result.

But the $175k is still for a 997 turbo. Wait until the 991 turbo comes out.

It could also be the dollar has been so bad, so long, that they cant keep the prices artificially low any more.

The 991 I saw today was $118k. Dont know if it was an S or not, but still lots of money for a non-turbo.

My guess is the price of the 981 will hurt its sales. But at $62k its not that far over priced, as long as options are kept down. Probably the best option is sport chrono.

Hauptmann6
10-24-2012, 19:21
thats what the numbers 1/8 mean in my post :supergrin:

Doh! I must have read it 6 times and never saw that!

Bill Powell
10-24-2012, 19:25
Here's a car I like, and the engine compartment. A flathead dresses up purty. I like the fact they used stock Mercury grille bars.

Bill Powell
10-25-2012, 08:17
IndianaMatt, I agree with you, pick-um-up-trucks is the way to automotive heaven. In my case the 67 Chevy short narrow. Stock, custom, hot rod, I don't care as long as they don't screw with the basic lines. By seventy the fender line was flat the hood was flat, and the grille was fat. Gone forever was the slim front end with the tapered hood and narrow grille. I can tolerate the wide bed if it looks like this red one.

Glock30Eric
10-25-2012, 08:33
There's just something so awesome about old pickups. The 60s Fords were just great, and I will own one someday.

http://0.tqn.com/d/trucks/1/0/h/B/1/1965FordF-100Pickup.jpg

I have seen this exactly same truck on a daily basis. It is in an excellent condition.

Bill Powell
10-25-2012, 09:38
I like full custom trucks like Spence's Rod and
custom dream truck. It included several firsts, quad headlights, big fins, and the first small block Chevy engine conversion (sept.1954. It was being tow barred toashow when one of the vehicles had a blow out. They both wound up on their head in a ditch.

Then there was the Kopper Kart and the Ala Kart.

JMS
10-25-2012, 12:29
In regards to vehicle inflation..

http://jalopnik.com/5953080/how-inflation-has-jacked-up-the-prices-of-your-favorite-cars/gallery/1

Anon1
10-25-2012, 13:09
Full custom trucks:

Blastolene's Big Bertha
http://www.blastolene.com/Bertha/images/16M+M-and-Bertha_jpg.jpg

and Pizzed Off Pete
http://www.blastolene.com/pete/images/100_1322.jpg

Glock30Eric
10-25-2012, 14:43
Full custom trucks:
Pizzed Off Pete
http://www.blastolene.com/pete/images/100_1322.jpg

Wow that's sick! Could you please provide us more info on that truck? I would like to know more with the engine on that truck. It looks like V12 engine but unsure if it is a diesel or gas engine.

Bill Powell
10-25-2012, 15:02
Looks like a 12V-71 Detroit. The cab is a mid fifties Peterbilt.

Gareth68
10-25-2012, 15:30
Here is a video and more pics of Pete...

http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/off-topic/21650-video-jay-leno-s-pissed-off-pete-blastolene-brothers.html

Anon1
10-25-2012, 16:49
More info on the trucks at www.blastolene.com

The Piss'd Off Pete has, according the webpage, 12v71 Detriot Diesel with two 671 superchargers.

Did you see that??? TWIN roots style 671 blowers!

Bill Powell
10-25-2012, 16:55
On a 12V-71, which is a two stroke, those 6-71's are not superchargers, they are scavenger blowers. In a high horsepower application that engine would run four turbo chargers.

Anon1
10-25-2012, 16:59
Did you see the DecoLiner over there? It has two driving stations, one inside and one as a flybridge like a cabin cruiser boat.

http://www.blastolene.com/images/deco/100_2207.jpg

RWBlue
10-25-2012, 18:04
Did you see the DecoLiner over there? It has two driving stations, one inside and one as a flybridge like a cabin cruiser boat.

http://www.blastolene.com/images/deco/100_2207.jpg

For some reason, I think driving from the upper desk would be very very hard to do right.

nursetim
10-25-2012, 18:09
Did you see the DecoLiner over there? It has two driving stations, one inside and one as a flybridge like a cabin cruiser boat.

http://www.blastolene.com/images/deco/100_2207.jpg

That IS the coolest vehicle I've ever seen. I want one. I saw an episode of storage wars where Barry was driving something like this, or this one, I don't know. Very cool indeed though.

Bill Powell
10-26-2012, 15:59
when a replica is better than the original. Chuck Beck's Porsche.

Porsche 904 fiberglass replica. the original was fiberglass.

550 spyder

Lister Corvette, all Beck replicas.

Bill Powell
10-28-2012, 08:42
American LaFrance was a builder of fire trucks, and when they were retired from service you wound up with a low mileage, heavy duty truck chassis that was not good for much of anything. I've seen them converted to dump trucks and a dozen other applications.

The most interesting, however, were turned into gargantuan cars, open wheel roadsters.

A typical application was a fourteen literpowereing a transaxle, which powered the chain drive sprockets. here are some. Ours, which was inspired by the Fiat (Beast of Turin) 'The light one is powered by a V12 Pierce Arrow engine.

Bruce M
10-28-2012, 08:54
Middle one looks like it might still have the pump. Could be handy of the basement gets flooded... Last one I guess was from a time when either minimalist windshields were in or glass was alot more expensive.

Bill Powell
10-28-2012, 10:02
Back in that time period you didn't have laminated safety plate. That restricted the size of the glass as much as anything.

Atlas
10-28-2012, 13:50
when a replica is better than the original. Chuck Beck's Porsche.

Porsche 904 fiberglass replica. the original was fiberglass.

550 spyder

Lister Corvette, all Beck replicas.

I agree.
A couple of guys I know who grew up in the area around Stuttgart may not, but I'm with you.

I recently saw a website somewhere for a company building 356 replicas that are constructed on a nicely-done tube chassis with modern suspension, using a mid-mounted Subaru engine rather than the modded-out Beetle engine you would find in the competition's cars.

To my mind that's perfectly OK, though I would never put a Porsche badge or other ID on it.

Bill Powell
10-28-2012, 15:59
Yeah, I know him. His name is Kevin Hines and he has been doing this for a long time. He was the father of the Puma. They had built 22,000 cars when the Braziian government stepped in and shut them down, for too much foreign involvememt.

jtull7
10-28-2012, 17:14
Bill, I used to own a 1942 American LaFrance pumper truck. I wish I had a photo of it. I bought it from a tiny Texas Panhandle VFD after the water reservoir rusted out beyond repair. It had a straight 12 and was a beast to drive. But, it was really fun.

Here's a pic I found on the Net of the same model truck, beautifully restored:

http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t107/jtull8/1942-Ford-American-La-France-Fire-Truck-Pumper-Canandaigua-New-York.jpg

Bill Powell
10-29-2012, 07:04
that one looks like about a 46 Ford, 1-1/2 ton chassis.

Atlas, when I was in Germany I drove a tractor/trailer and any time a run toward Stuttgart came up I volunteered. I always managed to get to the first cloverleaf going into town about ten AM, where I had truck trouble. About ten fifteen the 904's came from the factory and hot lapped the cloverleaf for half an hour. After it was over my truck got all better and I went on my way.