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GAFinch
10-16-2012, 19:04
The French national health-care system is called Sécurité Sociale. It is currently running a $13 billion deficit, but President François Hollande has some ideas about a new direction for the program. For starters, in 2013, it will start covering the cost of abortion entirely. That’s right: If you get an abortion in France, the “government” will pick up the tab and it won’t cost you a dime.

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/330535/france-cover-100-percent-cost-abortions-veronique-de-rugy

Oh look, their socialist President is doing the same thing that our "moderate" President is doing. :whistling:

IndianaMatt
10-16-2012, 19:13
Too bad our government doesn't cover the cost of abortions.

Viagra, on the other hand... COVERED.

GAFinch
10-16-2012, 19:20
Too bad our government doesn't cover the cost of abortions.

It actually soon will be according to the ACA bill.

Cavalry Doc
10-16-2012, 19:31
Too bad our government doesn't cover the cost of abortions.

Viagra, on the other hand... COVERED.

Elective stuff needs to be paid for by the one that wants it, or they can do without. That goes for viagra and abortions.

I guess there is a silver lining. More liberals abort than conservatives. Voluntary eugenics. Not my fault, not my problem.

I have very little sympathy for self inflicted injury.

W420Hunter
10-16-2012, 19:55
Too bad our government doesn't cover the cost of abortions.

Viagra, on the other hand... COVERED.

So b/c one bull**** thing is covered we should add to it? How about we just fight to take vigra off and save $?

plainsman
10-16-2012, 20:14
It is the taxpayers that pay for every fricking thing, so if you want 3,000 in birth control, abortions, hair transplants, hot tubs with pretty nurses, well you can get all that, but you will pay dearly for it. You have to wonder how anyone with a brain can expect to get$ 3,000 of birth control without the company charging you over $3000. for the benefit. Insurance companies charge you for your claims risks, plus costs.

For some bad risks, obamacare is better then winning the lottery, pay a few dollars, and have taxpayer suckers pay hundreds of thousands in claims. What happens in the free market, is the average person in good health gets tired of paying insane premiums when they are not getting hardly arything back, and drop the worthless policies. Once obama ruins the health care industry, you'll have no where else to go.

JBnTX
10-16-2012, 21:40
I do not want one penny of my tax money used to pay for abortions or contraceptives of any kind.

:steamed:

AlexHassin
10-16-2012, 21:48
i guess they figure is is cheaper then paying for the deadbeats children

Foxtrotx1
10-16-2012, 23:25
i guess they figure is is cheaper then paying for the deadbeats children

Sadly this is true. Morals aside, it is cheaper to pay for birth control than to pay for food stamps, medical care, welfare and education for the rest of the said deadbeats life.

G17Jake
10-17-2012, 05:27
I wonder how often Muslims in France have abortions?

JBnTX
10-17-2012, 05:52
I wonder how often Muslims in France have abortions?

Only once, then they're beheaded for it.

dbcooper
10-17-2012, 07:44
Fewer Frenchmen is a bad thing?

GAFinch
10-17-2012, 08:18
Fewer Frenchmen is a bad thing?

Yes, if they're replaced with radical Islamists. Not a huge difference, but still.

Gundude
10-17-2012, 08:37
I do not want one penny of my tax money used to pay for abortions or contraceptives of any kind.

:steamed:And I don't want one penny of mine to pay for a "war on drugs".

As long as half the nation approves of government spending on some things the government shouldn't be spending money on, it will spend on all things it shouldn't be spending money on.

Gundude
10-17-2012, 08:38
Only once, then they're beheaded for it.Perfect. Two for the price of one. What's the problem?

DonGlock26
10-17-2012, 10:12
http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/330535/france-cover-100-percent-cost-abortions-veronique-de-rugy

Oh look, their socialist President is doing the same thing that our "moderate" President is doing. :whistling:

Less Frenchmen, more Muslims. Progressives are so shmart.

English
10-18-2012, 12:28
So b/c one bull**** thing is covered we should add to it? How about we just fight to take vigra off and save $?

The average savings per abortion in terms of child maintenance and other state benefits stretchig into the future dwarfs the cost of the abortion. As far as the state and the well being of most of its citizens is concerned it is better for children to be brought up in a loving and caring home than to be unwanted in a poor home. The majority of women do not want abortions and have them only in desperate circumstances. That is not a good situatio in which to bring up a child. It is far better for all concerned that abortion is made easy rather than hard.

English

GAFinch
10-18-2012, 12:57
The majority of women do not want abortions and have them only in desperate circumstances.

Here in the U.S. 1 in 4 healthy pregnancies are aborted. In England, it's around 1 in 3 healthy pregnancies. I can't imagine how high it is in London among non-Muslims (it's 1 in 1.5 in NYC). The notion of abortions being rare is not true.

series1811
10-18-2012, 13:38
Too bad our government doesn't cover the cost of abortions.

You can cover all kind of things when you tax your producers at 75 per cent of income. At least until they all leave, or say screw it and quit working so hard.

Viagra, on the other hand... COVERED.

Really? Give me a link to that program. :supergrin:

GAFinch
10-18-2012, 14:11
You can cover all kind of things when you tax your producers at 75 per cent of income. At least until they all leave, or say screw it and quit working so hard.

Just a few years ago, rich people were leaving Britain for France to escape high taxes. Now they're going back.

beforeobamabans
10-18-2012, 16:00
I do not want one penny of my tax money used to pay for abortions or contraceptives of any kind.

:steamed:

This month is "open enrollment" for our corporate health care plan. It states that, in compliance with The "Affordable Healthcare Act", women's "wellness" care is not subject to any deductibles or co-pays and is covered 100%. Wellness includes physical exams, mammograms, pap smears, abuse counseling and contraceptives.

Abortions could easily be added to the list. Oh yeah, my premiums went up, my deductibles went up, my max out-of-pocket went up and the maximum contribution to the pre-tax healthcare savings account is cut in half to $2500/yr.

jdavionic
10-18-2012, 17:55
I'm all in favor of the French implementing a 100% abortion policy...perhaps I misunderstood.

English
10-19-2012, 06:43
Here in the U.S. 1 in 4 healthy pregnancies are aborted. In England, it's around 1 in 3 healthy pregnancies. I can't imagine how high it is in London among non-Muslims (it's 1 in 1.5 in NYC). The notion of abortions being rare is not true.

I did not say that abortions were rare, only that they were something a woman would choose not to have with the implication that it is an unpleasant procedure which is generally expensive.

Try to imagaine the state of our economies if the birth rate was 25% or 20% higher than it is. Children take wealth out of the economy and don't start to return it for some 20 to 30 years. In the short and medium term that is inflationary. If you accept that the majority of those extra births will produce further drains on the public purse over at least two and probably more decades, that is even more inflationary. How much more inflation, in real terms, do you think the USA or the UK can take and still recover from their disastrous fiscal and financial situations?

English

Grayson
10-23-2012, 19:49
Too bad our government doesn't cover the cost of abortions.

Viagra, on the other hand... COVERED.

The Pharmacy Technician (that'd be me :tongueout: ) calls "bull$&*!"

YMMV by State...NC did used to cover 2 Viagra a month back in the late 90s/early00s or so. Not anymore.

Any plan that DOES cover Viagra, also covers birth control. And I assure you, it's a helluva lot easier to get any insurance (.gov or otherwise) to cover BCs than Viagra.

Cavalry Doc
10-23-2012, 19:56
The Pharmacy Technician (that'd be me :tongueout: ) calls "bull$&*!"

YMMV by State...NC did used to cover 2 Viagra a month back in the late 90s/early00s or so. Not anymore.

Any plan that DOES cover Viagra, also covers birth control. And I assure you, it's a helluva lot easier to get any insurance (.gov or otherwise) to cover BCs than Viagra.

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Guess the DU troll will have to try a new tactic. Good catch!!. From a family full of Pharmacy Techs. My Father, I started as one, My wife did too, and my youngest daughter is in a Pharmacy tech program now, just got her trainee certificate today. :wavey: