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ModGlock17
10-18-2012, 20:12
My prediction is Romney 321, Obama 217.

Ohio, Florida, Penn., Michigan will go Romney.

Log in your prediction. And we'll see who'd come the closest to November 7th's reality.

Romney will get more than 300 electoral votes.

Diesel McBadass
10-18-2012, 20:23
ive been trying different combos on 270towin.com, it will be close

ModGlock17
10-19-2012, 05:58
Come on, folks.

With Liberals seem to concede already, many of their voters will just stay home on Nov 6. It won't be close.

callihan_44
10-19-2012, 06:38
i think it's a bad idea to get over confident....We have to overcome uninformed morons voting, voter fraud and probably an army of lawyers appealing the outcome....vote like your life depends on it , its gonna be close

JBnTX
10-19-2012, 06:47
It will be a landslide victory for Romney.
Decided early in the evening.

ModGlock17
10-19-2012, 08:10
i think it's a bad idea to get over confident....We have to overcome uninformed morons voting, voter fraud and probably an army of lawyers appealing the outcome....vote like your life depends on it , its gonna be close

Understand. I'm working emails and Facebook, at least helping people to get a glimpse of Romney, the "guy" at Al Smith dinner on video.

Humor is a good way breaking through resistance... Working to a landslide because we depend on it.

Diesel McBadass
10-19-2012, 09:58
I predict Romney Popular vote for sure. Electoral will be close, it wont be a regan mondale landslide type victory like some seem to think here

IndyGunFreak
10-19-2012, 10:13
Understand. I'm working emails and Facebook, at least helping people to get a glimpse of Romney, the "guy" at Al Smith dinner on video.

Humor is a good way breaking through resistance... Working to a landslide because we depend on it.

I think that video is going to help him a lot (remember that Reagan's humor was part of his charm).. He was absolutely hysterical at that dinner. Obama had some good ones as well, but Romney had one after another.

I don't know what the count will be, but I believe it's going to be a landslide victory for Romney.

Flintlocker
10-19-2012, 11:20
281 Obama to 257 Romney

Bonus prediction: GTPI will look like Jonestown in 1978.

ModGlock17
10-19-2012, 12:50
281 Obama to 257 Romney

Bonus prediction: GTPI will look like Jonestown in 1978.

Do you have some Kool-aid if it doesn't work out for you?

IndyGunFreak
10-19-2012, 13:01
Do you have some Kool-aid if it doesn't work out for you?

No, if you read DU, there's going to be a "revolution". It must be an unarmed revolution, because they are against guns as well.

Flintlocker
10-19-2012, 13:20
Do you have some Kool-aid if it doesn't work out for you?

At Jonestown they used Flavor-Aid. I don't want you guys to buy the wrong brand. :supergrin:

countrygun
10-19-2012, 13:46
At Jonestown they used Flavor-Aid. I don't want you guys to buy the wrong brand. :supergrin:

I look forward to your Nov 7 demonstration and I will take notes..I promise

Kirishiac
10-19-2012, 13:54
279-259(ish) Romney. However, with Obama not having a firm grasp on PA, WI, etc it really could be 300+ for Romney.

jdavionic
10-19-2012, 13:56
I look forward to your Nov 7 demonstration and I will take notes..I promise

You kidding. Lintfocker and the like will go back under their respective rocks after the election.

jdavionic
10-19-2012, 13:58
279-259(ish) Romney.

I think it will be close to this^. I don't expect a landslide though. However I do expect a lot of TVs stolen in protest over the results.

Rooster Rugburn
10-19-2012, 14:55
It will be a landslide victory for Romney.
Decided early in the evening.

NBC, CBS, ABC, and MSNBC, based on early voting exit polls, have already called it for Obama. :whistling:

zeke501
10-19-2012, 21:08
It will be a landslide victory for Romney.
Decided early in the evening.


I AGREE!! Will not be close like the lib media is saying...and I think they are now seeing this themselves.... they are going to come up with all kinds of excuses for their boy...bottom line, odumbo is a loser and can go back to kenya !!!:tongueout:

Get use to hearing "PRESIDENT ROMNEY" YOU LIBERALS!!!:rofl:

ModGlock17
10-20-2012, 20:31
They're suggesting that Romney can win the popular vote and still lose the election.

Foxtrotx1
10-20-2012, 20:45
It will be a landslide victory for Romney.
Decided early in the evening.

What are you smoking? this will be the closest election since Bush/Gore

Can we quote you on that the night of election?

jdavionic
10-20-2012, 21:12
I just played around with the interactive map and came up with R 298 O 240

F350
10-21-2012, 00:05
NBC, CBS, ABC, and MSNBC, based on early voting exit polls, have already called it for Obama. :whistling:


Did Chris Matthews get another tingle???

stevelyn
10-21-2012, 00:22
279-259(ish) Romney. However, with Obama not having a firm grasp on PA, WI, etc it really could be 300+ for Romney.

Considering that the recall thugs in WI took an arse whipping, I would say WI will probably go to Romney.

countrygun
10-21-2012, 00:43
What are you smoking? this will be the closest election since Bush/Gore

Can we quote you on that the night of election?

You are going to have a rude surprise.

You probably know that what you said is wrong but you are just trying to talk big.

domin8ss
10-21-2012, 00:59
I like what I see out of Nevada. They are a swing state that has got it right in every election since, what, the 1960s, or something like that. They are predicted to go with Romney. That's what happens when you tell the country you want to take guns away. Plus, Nevada was one of the hardest hit by the recession. I also read a banger today that said Ohio and Florida were too close to call. Also, I'm an hour drive from Wisconsin. What I'm seeing seems to indicate they'll go with Romney. I've seen a lot more Romney signs and stickers than Obama. Hell, I wouldn't be surprised if Romney took Illinois. It's a slim chance, but I think it could happen.

ModGlock17
10-21-2012, 14:54
I took a 2-hr drive today in Central Florida. Beautiful weather. We counted 2 Obama signs, 6 Fire Obama signs, and 74 Romney-Ryan.

A couple of observations:

1. Whatever happened to Biden's name ????
2. Did the Obama people bug out of town a few days ago ??? Concede FL to Romney ?? If they did, that's what happens when you spent hundreds of million dollars on dirty ads and your opponent, in just an hour, wiped all that out by showing that he is a good guy. Now, you're outta cash!

May be I drove in Romney's territory, but the only Obama you can find around here, is on the internet. Even Orlando's newspaper had to save face and went with Romney.

I think tomorrow night after the debate, BHO will be out of town for good. Well, may we'd name a project house after him, the "Hussian" building.

FL is going Romney. Third debate is irrelevant. Early voting starts late next week.

ModGlock17
10-21-2012, 14:59
My friends in NH also sense that Obama people may have pulled out of state.

Mis-management. You're outta cash. Your campaign has to pull out.

Isn't that what happens to our country?? The only thing in campaigning that is different from our country is that you can't spend money you don't have in a campaign.

Toetag
10-22-2012, 04:47
My opinion is that Romney voters are unrepresented in polling, pick any reason you want.

I think Romney wins big. Well over the 300 mark.

The Chick-fil-a thing earlier this year was indicative of turnout for this election.

ModGlock17
10-24-2012, 09:23
It is unravelling. NH is 3% favoring R. OH is now tie. CO is getting stronger R.

The Benghazi Dance by BHO is not helping. Now comes Donald Trump.

jlavallee
10-24-2012, 10:17
Beyond when I go over the hill to Nazifornia I rarely see Obama signs and I never saw a Romney bumper sticker until about a month ago but now they are (along with yard signs) pretty common.

Personally, I expect Obama to scrape a victory. The fanfare isn't there like before and people are rightfully ashamed of a lot of what he has done but the reality is that most Americans are socialists it is just that a lot of the GOP folks don't know it.

Either one scares the hell out of me and while Romney at least doesn't loathe America, the Dems are always horrible so the eight years of hell that we get if he wins is a toss up to 4 more bad years of Obama but hope for 2016.

My main concern is the Senate and house not have super majorities of any party. Especially if they match the sitting President.

Mass10mm
10-24-2012, 21:22
My guess is Obama 271, Romney 267

Of the swing states, I see Obama taking Ohio, New Mexico, Wisconsin, and Michigan.

I see Romney taking Florida, Virginia, North Carolina, New Hampshire, Nevada, and Colorado.

Time will tell. In particular, I also predict that we won't know who won the election until sometime Friday, November 9, after all the recounts are certified.:shocked:

ModGlock17
10-24-2012, 22:10
My guess is Obama 271, Romney 267

Of the swing states, I see Obama taking Ohio, New Mexico, Wisconsin, and Michigan.

I see Romney taking Florida, Virginia, North Carolina, New Hampshire, Nevada, and Colorado.

Time will tell. In particular, I also predict that we won't know who won the election until sometime Friday, November 9, after all the recounts are certified.:shocked:

I hope it's not that close. Close elections split the country, more than we are.

ModGlock17
10-24-2012, 22:22
I was polled yesterday, by an automated system.

Several questions had to do with local races, but the rest was O-R. I think it has flaws in a close race. Many questions involved "press 1" for Obama, "2" for xxxx. One question asked who I voted for in 2008.

By the way I held the phone, the length of my thumb made it easier to press 1 than press 2. As the questions ran on, I was bored and just pressing 1 and be done with it. That made polling inaccurate, especially the person has no obligation to be accurate.

A better design would have been to alternate the choices using button 1. Then if you ask two similar questions and the answers don't match, you throw out that call.

ModGlock17
11-02-2012, 11:17
Lots of people are hurting from Sandy! Voting is the last things on their minds.

They're struggling to get gas so they can get out and go live with friends for a while.

What will this do to the electoral ????

madbaumer
11-02-2012, 11:38
I'll be doctoring a hang over.

Ian Moone
11-02-2012, 11:44
279-259(ish) Romney. However, with Obama not having a firm grasp on PA, WI, etc it really could be 300+ for Romney.

I'm on the same page with you. My most likely scenario is 279 Romney. My best case ...if Paul Ryan and Scott Brown deliver WI ...then it's 289 Romney. I think zero will hang on to NV, MI and PA for sure.

cowboywannabe
11-02-2012, 11:47
i guess you guys havent read the proven reports of voting machines in ohio and florida choosing obama even when the voter chooses romney? they said election officials are having to "recalibrate" the machines after the false votes were recorded.

cowboywannabe
11-02-2012, 11:50
My guess is Obama 271, Romney 267

Of the swing states, I see Obama taking Ohio, New Mexico, Wisconsin, and Michigan.

I see Romney taking Florida, Virginia, North Carolina, New Hampshire, Nevada, and Colorado.

Time will tell. In particular, I also predict that we won't know who won the election until sometime Friday, November 9, after all the recounts are certified.:shocked:

this is true, ohio went for obama last time and hes been putting a lot of our tax money in it via hand outs/ bail outs to secure the vote again.

dukeblue91
11-02-2012, 11:58
I would love to see a landslide victory for Romney but our general public at large is stupid I think it will be close and I'm not even convinced that Romney will win at all.
Although I also hope that I'm very wrong on this.

ModGlock17
11-02-2012, 11:59
i guess you guys havent read the proven reports of voting machines in ohio and florida choosing obama even when the voter chooses romney? they said election officials are having to "recalibrate" the machines after the false votes were recorded.

A friend of mine had it happened to him in NC. A touchscreen calibration. The word went out quickly to ask for paper ballot.

Issues I heard in OH was about bus loads of Somalis driven to poll stations.

I voted in FL. It was paper marked with ovals, therefore a paper trail, then read by machine.

FWIW.

douggmc
11-02-2012, 12:02
You are going to have a rude surprise.

You probably know that what you said is wrong but you are just trying to talk big.

tagged

douggmc
11-02-2012, 12:07
Lots of people are hurting from Sandy! Voting is the last things on their minds.

They're struggling to get gas so they can get out and go live with friends for a while.

What will this do to the electoral ????

I say .. virtually nothing. NJ and NY are only significantly impacted states. Both are heavy Dem to begin with. Even if it did effect turnout, and the effect was somehow disproportionally negative to Dems .... I still don't think it would be enough to swing it to Rep.

IvanVic
11-02-2012, 12:17
I'm still optimistic in the sense that Romney is going to win Ohio.

MZBKA
11-02-2012, 13:21
Of the swing states:

Romney will win:
Florida, North Carolina, and Virginia.

Obama will win:
Nevada, Wisconsin, Iowa, Pennsylvania, Michigan, and New Hampshire.

It's not what I want, but it seems to be what the polls are telling us.

cowboywannabe
11-02-2012, 13:34
Of the swing states:

Romney will win:
Florida, North Carolina, and Virginia.

Obama will win:
Nevada, Wisconsin, Iowa, Pennsylvania, Michigan, and New Hampshire.

It's not what I want, but it seems to be what the polls are telling us.

those underlined are hardly swing states, they always seem to lean heavily towards a liberal president as does ohio.

MZBKA
11-02-2012, 13:55
those underlined are hardly swing states, they always seem to lean heavily towards a liberal president as does ohio.

I agree, but polls exist within those states that show the two candidates are within the polls' margin of error.

MZBKA
11-02-2012, 13:56
My guess is Obama 271, Romney 267

Of the swing states, I see Obama taking Ohio, New Mexico, Wisconsin, and Michigan.

I see Romney taking Florida, Virginia, North Carolina, New Hampshire, Nevada, and Colorado.

Time will tell. In particular, I also predict that we won't know who won the election until sometime Friday, November 9, after all the recounts are certified.:shocked:

New Mexico isn't a swing state. . .

dukeblue91
11-02-2012, 13:59
The Dems are out in full force here in NC knocking on doors.
I just had some very old man knock on my door asking for some woman named Shaquita or something like that.
I just looked at him and asked if I look like I had such a name.
He asked if I know her or know where she is and I was nicely telling him that I have lived here for over 12 years and never heard of her.
He then asked me if I already voted and I told him no not yet but will.
As he gave me that look wondering if he should dare ask, I said albeit lying that the last time I voted to show the world I was not a Racist and this time I will show the world that I'm not an Idiot.
I think he got the idea.

But I was surprised that I have not seen any republicans going door to door and hope that they don't think that NC is a forgone conclusion because it went to Obama in 08, which actually shocked the hell out of me.

ModGlock17
11-02-2012, 14:53
The Dems are out in full force here in NC knocking on doors.
I just had some very old man knock on my door asking for some woman named Shaquita or something like that.
I just looked at him and asked if I look like I had such a name.
He asked if I know her or know where she is and I was nicely telling him that I have lived here for over 12 years and never heard of her.
He then asked me if I already voted and I told him no not yet but will.
As he gave me that look wondering if he should dare ask, I said albeit lying that the last time I voted to show the world I was not a Racist and this time I will show the world that I'm not an Idiot.
I think he got the idea.

But I was surprised that I have not seen any republicans going door to door and hope that they don't think that NC is a forgone conclusion because it went to Obama in 08, which actually shocked the hell out of me.

LOL LOL

He probably had a great time with someone having that name. Came to rekindle the fire...

Was embarrassed so he pretended to be a poll worker ??

Just kidding man.

nmk
11-04-2012, 09:03
I think Obama will win by a small margin and GTPI will spend the next four years screaming about voter fraud.

jdavionic
11-04-2012, 09:27
I still think it will be a slim margin victory for Romney. If Romney holds FL and take PA, then he can win with just one of these - NH, OH, MI, CO, IA or NV.

rong338
11-04-2012, 09:29
Romney takes NH, WI, PA and FL, loses OH, wins electorate 274 to 264 and that's using conservative #'s.

snewsoG22
11-04-2012, 10:06
269-269

MakeMineA10mm
11-04-2012, 10:29
There are 248 absolutely safe electoral votes for the socialist/democratic party. Romney will not invade that territory. There's not enough backlash against Obama or excitement for Romney to flip those staunchly left states/votes to go for a republican in this election.

I don't see New Mexico, New Hampshire, or Iowa (all states where 4 out of the last 5 pres elections went democratic) going republican either, therefore I'm giving O another 16 electoral votes, for a sub-total of 264.

On the other side, there are 96 absolutely safe republican electoral votes. There are 67 more which have voted 4 out of last 5 elections for republicans. Virginia, North Carolina, and Indiana have been solid republican until O ran in 2008. I'm confident they've seen the error of their ways and will flip back. Georgia, Arizona, and Montana have voted Dem. once in last 5 elections, but didn't fall for O the first time around, so I'm sure they won't go crazy now... Lastly, there are 50 electoral votes tied up in states which used to vote Dem, but the last 3 consecutive presidential elections (including Obama's win in 2008) voted for the Republican, so I'm confident (but not 100%) that Romney will win Arkansas, Kentucky, Louisiana, Missouri, Tennessee, and West Virginia (though that last one is a bit of a wildcard). So, this puts Romney at 213.

The wildcards are Florida, Ohio, Colorado, & Nevada. But here's the kicker: Romney MUST win EVERY one of those states. If he only loses the smallest state (Nevada-5), it's a tie, and the Senate will elect Obama. If Romney loses any of the other states, Obama will declare a "mandate" and America dies some more over the next 4 years...

I hope I'm wrong and the Romney optimists here are right that Romney can cause an upset in some places like Michigan or Wisconsin, but it would be a big up-hill battle against the statistical probabilities...

The optimist in me will say: Romney 274 to Obama 264, but I won't be shocked if O wins. -- Romney has an uphill fight.

As an aside, this also brings up my biggest gipe about the Republican Party. It's leadership seems blind to history. If they go back and look at past elections where republicans have "stolen" traditionally dem.-voting states, it was with a true conservative, with charisma, and an ability to think on their feet while staying within their core values. (Yes, I'm describing Reagan, but we could substitute Eisenhower or Coolidge too.). Romney doesn't have that level of charisma or the depth of conservatism to make this a "big win."

Gunboat1
11-05-2012, 14:56
I've got Romney winning about 53% of the popular vote, and taking 295 electoral votes FTW.

Romney takes CO, AZ, IA, OH, WI, VA, FL and NC.

http://www.270towin.com/2012_election_predictions.php?mapid=buzL


Even if he doesn't take IA and OH, if he takes the others, he wins with 271.

I sure hope it goes well. If not, we are witnessing the end of the Republic. Anarchy will follow as we all reform our nation.

ModGlock17
11-05-2012, 15:19
For you guys predicting less than 300 for Rom, I'd just wait a day or two, then I gloat...

I'm telling you, the only thing you can count on, right now, is the turnout of Dems and Reps in early voting. Those are accurate, but just a snap shot. Compare that to 2008 numbers and you'll see a large swing from Dems to Rep this time. So unless there will be a huge Dems turnout tomorrow to compensate for early votes, you won't have a close electoral as many are saying.

Mass10mm
11-05-2012, 15:27
Here's my prediction map. It's a confluence of RealClearPolitics and Intrade. Obama 303, Romney 235.

http://mat99.ath.cx/cfot/2012_Election_Prediction.jpg

DOC44
11-05-2012, 15:29
Romney by at least 300

http://www.edrugsearch.com/edsblog/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/drug-reimportation-2009-battle-ends.jpg

Doc44

Paul7
11-05-2012, 15:37
Here's my prediction map. It's a confluence of RealClearPolitics and Intrade. Obama 303, Romney 235.

http://mat99.ath.cx/cfot/2012_Election_Prediction.jpg

RCP and Intrade are including those bogus polls using 2008 Democratic turnout numbers, that haven't happened in the last 25 years.

cowboy1964
11-05-2012, 15:40
The only prediction I'm making is that the winner will have 290 or less. Probably 280 or less.

These people predicting 330 and more for Romney have a screw loose.

Cavalry Doc
11-05-2012, 15:44
The only thing for sure is that a lot of people will be unhappy. At least in one side, maybe both if its too close to call.

ModGlock17
11-05-2012, 15:50
RCP and Intrade are including those bogus polls using 2008 Democratic turnout numbers, that haven't happened in the last 25 years.

You're right. That's exactly what I am talking about.

Thus far voter turnout, by party affiliation, in early voting actually INVALIDATEs many of the polls' presumptive assumption that this year's turn out is same as 2008.

In other words, they make incorrect assumption about the party-demographic in voting population. Even Rasmussen.

So even with huge Dems turnout to even out their lost advantage in early voting, even population in party-affiliation will still produce a close Romney win. But if early voting is any indication, it will be a large differential compared to 2008.

Watch for NH, VA, and FL in the early hours of the evening tomorrow, not whether Rom will carry each state but look at the gap in popular votes. They will tell the story for much of the remaining states.

My hope, though, is that this country stands a better chance to work together if the election result is abundantly clear, rather than close.

Mass10mm
11-05-2012, 16:01
RCP and Intrade are including those bogus polls using 2008 Democratic turnout numbers, that haven't happened in the last 25 years.Hey, Brainiac, learn what Intrade is before you open your yap. It doesn't use ANY polls. It doesn't use ANY predictions. It's a open market trading system just like the stock market. Individuals can buy and sell shares at whatever price the market determines. Right now the market trading, open to traders worldwide, favors Obama 2:1 over Romney.

If you truly believe that Romney will win, then open up an account, buy several thousand shares, and triple your money in two days. If you don't, I'll assume that you don't believe that Romney will win.

Paul7
11-05-2012, 16:38
Hey, Brainiac, learn what Intrade is before you open your yap. It doesn't use ANY polls. It doesn't use ANY predictions. It's a open market trading system just like the stock market. Individuals can buy and sell shares at whatever price the market determines. Right now the market trading, open to traders worldwide, favors Obama 2:1 over Romney.

You are right, I should have said Intrade participants are leaning on the bogus polls you seem to believe in. Notice these traders are worldwide, in the UK Obama is preferred by about 65-10, pretty unrealistic numbers.

If you truly believe that Romney will win, then open up an account, buy several thousand shares, and triple your money in two days. If you don't, I'll assume that you don't believe that Romney will win.

I don't gamble on anything. How many thousand shares have you bought?

Here's how infallible Intrade is:

http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2012/06/healthcare-upheld-by-scotus-intrade-blows-it-again/

ColdSteelNail
11-05-2012, 17:05
Obama-303
Mutt-235

Its possible Mutt could win by a Supreme Court 5-4 decision.

series1811
11-05-2012, 17:25
Obama-303
Mutt-235

Its possible Mutt could win by a Supreme Court 5-4 decision.

When the Obama supporters are already coming up with excuses, I'd say that's a good sign. :supergrin:

Ruble Noon
11-05-2012, 17:38
Romney 538.

If you're gonna' dream, might as well go big.

Trew2Life
11-05-2012, 18:39
@ 11/07/12 12:10AM EST all medias will report President Barrack Hussein Obama has won re-election. 308/230 electoral votes.

Diesel McBadass
11-05-2012, 20:39
the UN is at polling stations apparently, so i see obama with 800 electoral college points.

RyanSBHF
11-05-2012, 20:45
I think it will be very close. I already made my prediction in a GNG thread but here it is again -

Romney will win ID, MT, WY, NV, UT, AZ, SD, ND, NE, KS, OK, TX, LA, MO, AR, IN, OH, KY, WV, VA, TN, SC, NC, MS, AL, GA, FL and get 272 Electoral Votes.

Obama will win WA, CA, OR, CO, NM, MN, WI, MI, IL, IA, ME, VT, NH, MA, CT, RI, PA, NY, NJ, DE, MD, DC and get 266 Electoral Votes.

ModGlock17
11-05-2012, 20:52
How long will it take for a New Jersey voter to stand in a gas line, before he or she'd switch her vote to Romney ???

You will get an idea tomorrow.

What happens when he/she calls a relative in another state and complain about Obama's Katrina ???

You will get an idea tomorrow.

soon enough.

milglock707
11-06-2012, 01:52
Obama will get probably 310 electoral votes.

With a 91% chance for Obama winning I don't see any scenerio in which Romney wins that doesn't include Jesus himself coming down.

Democrats are using facts in this election from polls, whereas Republicans (read Rush Limbaugh) are using "feelings" and believing in their own lies. Only Fox is low brow enough to bring on the crazy guy claiming a Romney landslide.

I can't wait till tomorrow when Fox has Rove and his cronies on discussing all the insane reasons Romney lost (i.e. Sandy, gays, UFOs, Christie's endorsement, conspiracy by the government or Muslim brotherhood etc..) I am just going to laugh.

Flintlocker
11-06-2012, 02:43
My updated and last prediction: Obama 303 Romney 235. Obama gets Virginia and the election is called around 11 EST. GTPI heads start popping like the movie Scanners soon after.

Paul7
11-06-2012, 04:45
Obama will get probably 310 electoral votes.

With a 91% chance for Obama winning I don't see any scenerio in which Romney wins that doesn't include Jesus himself coming down.

Even Intrade doesn't have Obama at 91%

Democrats are using facts in this election from polls, whereas Republicans (read Rush Limbaugh) are using "feelings" and believing in their own lies. Only Fox is low brow enough to bring on the crazy guy claiming a Romney landslide.

I can't wait till tomorrow when Fox has Rove and his cronies on discussing all the insane reasons Romney lost (i.e. Sandy, gays, UFOs, Christie's endorsement, conspiracy by the government or Muslim brotherhood etc..) I am just going to laugh.

Your problem is some of the polls Democrats cite are expecting a higher Democratic turnout than the freak 2008 election. Rasmussen has proven himself the most accurate pollster, and has Romney leading.

Paul7
11-06-2012, 04:54
Obama will get probably 310 electoral votes.

With a 91% chance for Obama winning I don't see any scenerio in which Romney wins that doesn't include Jesus himself coming down.

Democrats are using facts in this election from polls, whereas Republicans (read Rush Limbaugh) are using "feelings" and believing in their own lies. Only Fox is low brow enough to bring on the crazy guy claiming a Romney landslide.

I can't wait till tomorrow when Fox has Rove and his cronies on discussing all the insane reasons Romney lost (i.e. Sandy, gays, UFOs, Christie's endorsement, conspiracy by the government or Muslim brotherhood etc..) I am just going to laugh.

And if Obama loses, the left will say the GOP 'surpressed' the vote.

Bren
11-06-2012, 05:00
My prediction is Romney 321, Obama 217.

Ohio, Florida, Penn., Michigan will go Romney.

Log in your prediction. And we'll see who'd come the closest to November 7th's reality.

Romney will get more than 300 electoral votes.

I agree with you. One of the news sites had a thing where you can drag state names under the candidate as you predict and add up their electoral votes. I had Romney at 330, but it could go as low as 310.

Bren
11-06-2012, 05:01
Romney takes NH, WI, PA and FL, loses OH, wins electorate 274 to 264 and that's using conservative #'s.

Ohio votes Republican more often than Penn, My guess is based on him losing Penn. and winning Ohio, but it could go either way.

ModGlock17
11-06-2012, 05:53
Obama will get probably 310 electoral votes.
...
Democrats are using facts in this election from polls, whereas Republicans (read Rush Limbaugh) are using "feelings" and believing in their own lies..
....
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I agree with you in that many people have very little INTUITION to recognize things in life so they prefer a Nanny to give them fudge presented as facts.

Isn't that great? A free country so you can be whatever.

jlavallee
11-06-2012, 06:10
I don't know how to feel about it. If it was one term only I'd say mittens at least doesn't hate the country but they're both so anti everything positive about America that I just can't stomach 8 years of garbage because we know the Dems will put up commie trash again next cycle. The Republicans are nearly as bad with the bible thumping freaks and war mongers destroying the nation from the other side. No matter who wins, the only certian thing is that we lose.

I've said all along Romney or any typical GOP freak can't beat Obama even with the mess he's made. But the old school GOP keep pandering to the twits on the far right and ensuring nobody in the all important independant column takes them seriously. I know lots of folks who were stupid enough to buy Obamas BS last time and were very unhappy with him but were given no alternative. Anybody but Obama as long as it was some retard who wouldn't actually return to liberty. Brilliant.

MakeMineA10mm
11-06-2012, 07:19
I don't know how to feel about it. If it was one term only I'd say mittens at least doesn't hate the country but they're both so anti everything positive about America that I just can't stomach 8 years of garbage because we know the Dems will put up commie trash again next cycle. The Republicans are nearly as bad with the bible thumping freaks and war mongers destroying the nation from the other side. No matter who wins, the only certian thing is that we lose.

I've said all along Romney or any typical GOP freak can't beat Obama even with the mess he's made. But the old school GOP keep pandering to the twits on the far right and ensuring nobody in the all important independant column takes them seriously. I know lots of folks who were stupid enough to buy Obamas BS last time and were very unhappy with him but were given no alternative. Anybody but Obama as long as it was some retard who wouldn't actually return to liberty. Brilliant.

You are right and wrong simultaneously. The problem with republican leadership is NOT that they pander to the right. The problem is they pander to the moderates, undecideds, soccor moms, and the rest of that slice of demographics in voters who "decide" elections. In so doing, they sponsor moderate candidates with "safe" (aka LAME) ideas, which end up looking/sounding not too far different than democrats ideas.

Republicans need to put up a REAL candidate, who makes Americans proud to be American, fires up the economy, and sticks to true conservative values (smaller govt., lower taxes, pro-freedom, strong defense, constitutional limitations), who has enough charisma to overcome the other guy. (aka: Ronald Reagan)

The republican leadership has gotten so worried about winning the election, they've forgotten WHY they want to win. It's all about the win and nothing about substance.

ModGlock17
11-06-2012, 07:41
A look at Intellicast.com shows cold rain and snow in Iowa and Wisconsin. Slow rain in the Florida peninsula.

Those are the swing states. Watch for the popular vote "gap" there. Some will just stay home, guess who?

Iowa and Wisconsin combined is more than Ohio.

However, if Romney can turn PA, it's all over then, a sign for other states to come.

Diesel McBadass
11-06-2012, 08:49
You are right and wrong simultaneously. The problem with republican leadership is NOT that they pander to the right. The problem is they pander to the moderates, undecideds, soccor moms, and the rest of that slice of demographics in voters who "decide" elections. In so doing, they sponsor moderate candidates with "safe" (aka LAME) ideas, which end up looking/sounding not too far different than democrats ideas.

Republicans need to put up a REAL candidate, who makes Americans proud to be American, fires up the economy, and sticks to true conservative values (smaller govt., lower taxes, pro-freedom, strong defense, constitutional limitations), who has enough charisma to overcome the other guy. (aka: Ronald Reagan)

The republican leadership has gotten so worried about winning the election, they've forgotten WHY they want to win. It's all about the win and nothing about substance.


I believe the party base is closer to the center than the far side. Those are the votes we need, and risk alienating. The religous radicals and bible thumpers turn off many voters. Including me. We need someone with strong economic and fiscal policies and believing in limited government, while not trying to legislate christian morality on others, Thats how we win.

Palmguy
11-06-2012, 09:56
305-233 Romney; with Romney taking FL, OH, PA, NH, IA, CO.


The wildcards are Florida, Ohio, Colorado, & Nevada. But here's the kicker: Romney MUST win EVERY one of those states. If he only loses the smallest state (Nevada-5), it's a tie, and the Senate will elect Obama. If Romney loses any of the other states, Obama will declare a "mandate" and America dies some more over the next 4 years...


The House votes for POTUS in a tied electoral college. Senate votes for VP.

Jon_R
11-06-2012, 10:03
I have Romney at 254 and Obama at 266 with Ohio the only undecided. Who ever wins Ohio wins on my map.

I hope it is Romney but I am not sure, my gut is Obama wins by 3% in Ohio but have to see.

They way I went on the unclear states.

Romney FL, VA, and NV

Obama NM, CO, MN, IA, WI, PA, and MI.

Glock!9
11-06-2012, 10:14
I will go on the record now saying Obama takes it.

camelotkid
11-06-2012, 10:16
I have Romney at 254 and Obama at 266 with Ohio the only undecided. Who ever wins Ohio wins on my map.

I hope it is Romney but I am not sure, my gut is Obama wins by 3% in Ohio but have to see.

They way I went on the unclear states.

Romney FL, VA, and NV

Obama NM, CO, MN, IA, WI, PA, and MI.
I think that is pretty accurate except flip NV and CO

Jon_R
11-06-2012, 10:44
I think that is pretty accurate except flip NV and CO

With the unemployment and housing issues in Las Vegas I thought it might pull enough votes to Romney but it was close and agree those two could flip but does not change the totals much just +3 to Romney.

jeanderson
11-06-2012, 11:34
Romney: 315 Obama: 223
http://i1246.photobucket.com/albums/gg614/photobug410/ElectoralMap2012-11-06.jpg

Paul7
11-06-2012, 12:08
I have Romney at 254 and Obama at 266 with Ohio the only undecided. Who ever wins Ohio wins on my map.

I hope it is Romney but I am not sure, my gut is Obama wins by 3% in Ohio but have to see.

They way I went on the unclear states.

Romney FL, VA, and NV

Obama NM, CO, MN, IA, WI, PA, and MI.

Rasmussen has Romney up by 3 in CO. Romney will get at least one of IA, WI, or PA.

ModGlock17
11-06-2012, 12:10
Romney: 315 Obama: 223
http://i1246.photobucket.com/albums/gg614/photobug410/ElectoralMap2012-11-06.jpg

That's identical to what I have now. I had NV earlier for Romney to get 321.

jlavallee
11-06-2012, 12:18
You are right and wrong simultaneously. The problem with republican leadership is NOT that they pander to the right. The problem is they pander to the moderates, undecideds, soccor moms, and the rest of that slice of demographics in voters who "decide" elections. In so doing, they sponsor moderate candidates with "safe" (aka LAME) ideas, which end up looking/sounding not too far different than democrats ideas.

Republicans need to put up a REAL candidate, who makes Americans proud to be American, fires up the economy, and sticks to true conservative values (smaller govt., lower taxes, pro-freedom, strong defense, constitutional limitations), who has enough charisma to overcome the other guy. (aka: Ronald Reagan)

The republican leadership has gotten so worried about winning the election, they've forgotten WHY they want to win. It's all about the win and nothing about substance.

A couple of things... The right wing is nothing about liberty, they want liberty in certian areas and really restrictive overbearing government in others. The far right favors middle east involvement and the social programs like medicare/medicade while also pushing to at a federal level ignore the rights of gay people to live their lives as they see fit between consenting adults. Also, they want to push the drug prohibition war even further. The federal government has no right to tell one person what to ingest. I am all for strong defense but that is entirely different from what we're doing or have been doing in a very long time.

In my lifetime Reagan is the only president I would actually invite into my home as he has some good ideas ans logic from the Goldwater days but you must accept that under Reagan we had a massive failure to limit the federal government. The man has a bad situation to deal with but Reagan is no saint even if many hoped he would finally be. Under his watch we didn't get rid of any recent mistakes like dismantling the Carter Dept. of Education, or a return to Constitutional money. His watch included the Brady bunch, amnesty for illegals, federally mandated 55 MPH limits and massive increasing to the already then failed "war on drugs" just to name a few instead of the talk that he spoke. I believe that unlike others, Ron had good intentions but the reality is far from the supposed "small government" he spoke of.

America needs to return to her roots and that is the strict constitutionalist America. There is very little the Federal government is actually supposed to do. If it isn't clearly in article 1, section 8 then it is at most, a state function if that.

Paul7
11-06-2012, 12:21
A couple of things... The right wing is nothing about liberty, they want liberty in certian areas and really restrictive overbearing government in others. The far right favors middle east involvement and the social programs like medicare/medicade while also pushing to at a federal level ignore the rights of gay people to live their lives as they see fit between consenting adults. Also, they want to push the drug prohibition war even further. The federal government has no right to tell one person what to ingest. I am all for strong defense but that is entirely different from what we're doing or have been doing in a very long time.

In my lifetime Reagan is the only president I would actually invite into my home as he has some good ideas ans logic from the Goldwater days but you must accept that under Reagan we had a massive failure to limit the federal government. The man has a bad situation to deal with but Reagan is no saint even if many hoped he would finally be. Under his watch we didn't get rid of any recent mistakes like dismantling the Carter Dept. of Education, or a return to Constitutional money. His watch included the Brady bunch, amnesty for illegals, federally mandated 55 MPH limits and massive increasing to the already then failed "war on drugs" just to name a few instead of the talk that he spoke. I believe that unlike others, Ron had good intentions but the reality is far from the supposed "small government" he spoke of.

America needs to return to her roots and that is the strict constitutionalist America. There is very little the Federal government is actually supposed to do. If it isn't clearly in article 1, section 8 then it is at most, a state function if that.

Whatever, today, Romney is clearly the rightward most viable candidate.

IvanVic
11-06-2012, 12:30
People that have this as a landslide in either direction are delusional.


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jlavallee
11-06-2012, 12:31
Whatever, today, Romney is clearly the rightward most viable candidate.

That is exactly why he has no independant clout. The lefties love any clown that'll keep their socialist system going, the right wing loves anyone that will keep their war on drugs, gays and non christians going and the pieces of the socialist system that they like.

People that think for themselves and care are stuck voting lesser evil with a few who see it clearly to know that they can't stomach voting for GOP or DEM so they stay home or if a person meets their criteria, they vote for them.

More independants exist than either left or right yet our system lets the minority choose the government through the lesser evil process. Look how many are disgusted in Obama and how far he is from his talking points in 08' this election should be an 84' type landslide but it isn't because the policies of Romneys are just as totalitarian as Obama's.

milglock707
11-06-2012, 14:06
Rasmussen has Romney up by 3 in CO. Romney will get at least one of IA, WI, or PA.

He was just on and stated he is not making any predictions as the election is too close to call.

Jon_R
11-06-2012, 14:09
Rasmussen has Romney up by 3 in CO. Romney will get at least one of IA, WI, or PA.

I just ran a scenario where Romney can win without OH but it is tough.

Romney has to take FL, VA, WI, NH, and CO for 271-267.

Fear Night
11-06-2012, 14:14
http://www.rove.com/images/0000/1280/Rove-Election2012Final.jpg

milglock707
11-06-2012, 14:18
Chrysler gave all its employees the day off to vote. Ostensibly, this means a huge chunk of votes for Obama. I wonder if Rove figured that into his calculation, especially in light of recent backlash against the Romney campaign.

Source: http://www.reddit.com/tb/12qfbj

Paul7
11-06-2012, 14:20
He was just on and stated he is not making any predictions as the election is too close to call.

He's calling what will happen in CO.

Paul7
11-06-2012, 14:22
That is exactly why he has no independant clout. The lefties love any clown that'll keep their socialist system going, the right wing loves anyone that will keep their war on drugs, gays and non christians going and the pieces of the socialist system that they like.

People that think for themselves and care are stuck voting lesser evil with a few who see it clearly to know that they can't stomach voting for GOP or DEM so they stay home or if a person meets their criteria, they vote for them.

More independants exist than either left or right yet our system lets the minority choose the government through the lesser evil process. Look how many are disgusted in Obama and how far he is from his talking points in 08' this election should be an 84' type landslide but it isn't because the policies of Romneys are just as totalitarian as Obama's.

Ron Paul isn't running, not to make a choice today is irresponsible. If you don't vote, don't complain.

milglock707
11-06-2012, 14:23
He's calling what will happen in CO.

What did he say?

countrygun
11-06-2012, 14:25
Rove's map is flawed on the face merely because Maine has an apportionment so Romney will pick up at least one there. But that little detail aside, I wouldn't count Wisconsin out and there is a chance that enough people are fed up with Dems running Minn to vote Republican as a statement. I think Roves map is a "worst-case Romney win" scenario

Fear Night
11-06-2012, 14:26
Rove's map is flawed on the face merely because Maine has an apportionment so Romney will pick up at least one there. But that little detail aside, I wouldn't count Wisconsin out and there is a chance that enough people are fed up with Dems running Minn to vote Republican as a statement. I think Roves map is a "worst-case Romney win" scenario
I agree, that's the way I see it as well. It's only up for Romney from Rove's map IMO.

Gunboat1
11-06-2012, 14:56
How the heck are you guys embedding your map graphics? I'm obviously graphically incompetent!

Jon_R
11-06-2012, 14:57
Hmmm... Is Ohio the key? :whistling:

http://www.cnn.com/video/?hpt=hp_t2_6#/video/politics/2012/11/06/exp-ohio-tarmac.cnn

Biden, Romney, and Ryan all land in Cleveland OH within 30 minutes of each other...

Paul7
11-06-2012, 14:59
What did he say?

Romney up 3 in CO.

ModGlock17
11-06-2012, 15:03
Hmmm... Is Ohio the key? :whistling:

http://www.cnn.com/video/?hpt=hp_t2_6#/video/politics/2012/11/06/exp-ohio-tarmac.cnn

Biden, Romney, and Ryan all land in Cleveland OH within 30 minutes of each other...

The Guys are working hard...

...while BHO is shooting hoops and taking it easy.

It sounds consistent with the last 4 yrs... taking easy. And he will be taking it easy the next 4 yrs as well. I'm trying to get him do that in Chicago, rather than DC.

W.E.G.
11-06-2012, 15:09
Hello kids!

Can you name two things that start with the letter "O?"

Ohio, and......

Come on, you know!

http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd7/rkba2da/humor/obama.jpg

Chronos
11-06-2012, 15:22
Ron Paul isn't running, not to make a choice today is irresponsible. If you don't vote, don't complain.

If you do vote, don't complain. Participation comes with an implicit acceptance/agreement with the system you participate in. Only if you reject the philosophical basis and ethics of the thing and refuse to participate can you honestly complain about other people attempting to lay hands on you against your will.

Diesel McBadass
11-06-2012, 15:39
Rove's map is flawed on the face merely because Maine has an apportionment so Romney will pick up at least one there. But that little detail aside, I wouldn't count Wisconsin out and there is a chance that enough people are fed up with Dems running Minn to vote Republican as a statement. I think Roves map is a "worst-case Romney win" scenario

you obviously dont know how maine apportionment works. Its 1 for north district, one for south district, 2 for winning state overall. So all 4 are going to obummer. Its not devided on overall percentage.

countrygun
11-06-2012, 16:36
you obviously dont know how maine apportionment works. Its 1 for north district, one for south district, 2 for winning state overall. So all 4 are going to obummer. Its not devided on overall percentage.

Well you know your State better than I do so I'll go with that, but I still stick by mr assessment of Rove's map.

stopatrain
11-06-2012, 16:41
Romney 300+

Trew2Life
11-06-2012, 16:46
Rove's map is flawed on the face merely because Maine has an apportionment so Romney will pick up at least one there. But that little detail aside, I wouldn't count Wisconsin out and there is a chance that enough people are fed up with Dems running Minn to vote Republican as a statement. I think Roves map is a "worst-case Romney win" scenario

you obviously dont know how maine apportionment works. Its 1 for north district, one for south district, 2 for winning state overall. So all 4 are going to obummer. Its not devided on overall percentage.

Well you know your State better than I do so I'll go with that, but I still stick by my assessment of Rove's map.

Got to love your 'stick-to-it-tiveness' ... damn the facts, 'put that little detail aside'.

:rofl:

countrygun
11-06-2012, 16:49
Got to love your 'stick-to-it-tiveness' ... damn the facts, 'put that little detail aside'.

:rofl:

Gee I have to apologize for living in Oregon, and not being familiar with Maine's appartionment system.

Get your laughs while you can.

evlbruce
11-06-2012, 16:50
Same prediction I made a month ago: Obama wins with 300 electoral votes.

SCmasterblaster
11-06-2012, 16:51
Same prediction I made a month ago: Obama wins with 300 electoral votes.

ANOTHER DU TROLL:upeyes:

Trew2Life
11-06-2012, 16:58
Gee I have to apologize for living in Oregon, and not being familiar with Maine's appartionment system.

Get your laughs while you can.

OH! Look who's making the 'apology tour' now. I'm just giving you a hard time buddy. (It might be my last chance before I'm banished to the GT dungeons) Don't apologize for being from Oregon. I'm sure it's a beautiful state. Apologize for supporting Romney.

:cool:

Ruble Noon
11-06-2012, 17:05
ANOTHER DU TROLL:upeyes:

He didn't agree with you so he must be. :upeyes:

Cavalry Doc
11-06-2012, 17:10
OH! Look who's making the 'apology tour' now. I'm just giving you a hard time buddy. (It might be my last chance before I'm banished to the GT dungeons) Don't apologize for being from Oregon. I'm sure it's a beautiful state. Apologize for supporting Romney.

:cool:

You're mistaking the taking of responsibility for an error, for Barry's serial capitulation and national flagellation.
http://www.theblaze.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/Obama-Bows.jpeg

http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p158/CavalryDoc/424643_268889329898369_1466097677_n.jpg

countrygun
11-06-2012, 17:12
OH! Look who's making the 'apology tour' now. I'm just giving you a hard time buddy. (It might be my last chance before I'm banished to the GT dungeons) Don't apologize for being from Oregon. I'm sure it's a beautiful state. Apologize for supporting Romney.

:cool:

Why would I apologize for supporting America?

Trew2Life
11-06-2012, 17:32
You're mistaking the taking of responsibility for an error, for Barry's serial capitulation and national flagellation.

LOL. Old news. Are you Texans going to secede?

jakebrake
11-06-2012, 17:33
romney 315 obama 223

evlbruce
11-06-2012, 23:07
ANOTHER DU TROLL:upeyes:

Nope, just someone who reads the news daily.

FFR Spyder GT
11-06-2012, 23:51
Romney 300+

Got to love your 'stick-to-it-tiveness' ... damn the facts, 'put that little detail aside'.

:rofl:

The truth and facts are something the "+40yo SWM crowd that still live with the Mom and has a "Command Post" in her basement" do not understand. :upeyes:

romney 315 obama 223

Guess again.

Spyder


P.S. Oh, I almost forgot.........









http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-O4g0g8d3vBs/UDp_lRYb_EI/AAAAAAAALLo/HlTUwtO3YvM/s1600/mitt-romney-loser-325x360.jpg

nmk
11-07-2012, 03:18
Let the blame game begin.

MZBKA
11-07-2012, 06:49
Looks like I was right.

Supporters of candidates losing in the polls always try to find some excuse. In this election, some people decided to falsely claim the polls were skewed democratic. Some people even falsely claimed polls were weighted based on 2008 turnout models.

Lesson: Trust mathematics/statistics and actual news sources.

RyanSBHF
11-07-2012, 19:46
My prediction was off by three states - Nevada, Ohio and Virginia. As of right now Florida is too close to call. Nevada is the biggest shock to me. Home foreclosures and unemployment are sky high there. I never thought a state would vote for any sitting President, D or R, with those numbers.

Hopefully in 2016 Republicans will run a candidate who isn't a kissing cousin of the Democrat running.

countrygun
11-07-2012, 19:55
Looks like I was right.

Supporters of candidates losing in the polls always try to find some excuse. In this election, some people decided to falsely claim the polls were skewed democratic. Some people even falsely claimed polls were weighted based on 2008 turnout models.

Lesson: Trust mathematics/statistics and actual news sources.

Not a lot of excuses that I am seeing, just the reality that the parasites have risen to levels that they can vote themselves other people's money

MZBKA
11-07-2012, 21:23
Not a lot of excuses that I am seeing, just the reality that the parasites have risen to levels that they can vote themselves other people's money
Have you read any of the posts in this thread? Many claimed the polls were biased toward Obama...they were wrong.