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Glock19Fan
10-19-2012, 01:48
I recently bought a .357 Magnum revolver with a 6 inch barrel. This is not my primary self defense weapon, and with that in mind, I have decided that I want a high velocity, fragmenting 110-125 grain bullet for self defense. JHP or SJHP are fine.

I plan on doing a ballistic gelatin test on this also.

Any recommenations? I would prefer the highest velocity ammunition. Something the creater would be proud of.

Zombie Steve
10-19-2012, 05:12
Why do you want it to fragment? Any old cup and core bullet should do nicely if that's what you're after...

Kentguy
10-19-2012, 08:19
Try the Hornady LEVERevolution 140g FTX round.
The box states;
Ballistics Information:
Muzzle Velocity: 1440 fps
Muzzle Energy: 644 ft. lbs.

I have shot these out of my S&W 357 mag. w/6" barrel - I think you'll find what you are looking for with these. Powder Valley has them for slightly over $18 for a box of 25.

Good luck.

dkf
10-19-2012, 11:36
http://www.shopcorbon.com/Self-Defense-JHP/357-Mag-110gr-CORBON-Self-Defense-JHP/SD357110-20/100/Product

http://www.shopcorbon.com/Self-Defense-JHP/357-Mag-125gr-CORBON-Self-Defense-JHP/SD357125-20/100/Product

http://www.shopcorbon.com/Self-Defense-JHP/357-Mag-140gr-CORBON-Self-Defense-JHP/SD357140-20/100/Product

http://www.midwayusa.com/product/322591/remington-express-ammunition-357-magnum-125-grain-semi-jacketed-hollow-point-box-of-50

http://www.midwayusa.com/product/333241/remington-express-ammunition-357-magnum-158-grain-semi-jacketed-hollow-point-box-of-50

PghJim
10-19-2012, 12:10
The two most used rounds in the past were either Remington or Federal 125gr SJHP. I know Remington still makes it and would assume Federal does also. I would not bother going with bullet of new design. You may want to look at this:

http://www.handloads.org/misc/stoppingpower.asp?Caliber=5&Weight=All

pokersamurai
10-19-2012, 20:05
I would recommend the .357 magnum Federal 125gr SJHP.

Here is a ballistic gel test of the Federal round. This particular article doesn't say the barrel length of the test gun, but all of their other 357 magnum tests have been from a 4.6" Ruger Blackhawk so I assume this test uses the same gun.

http://www.shootingillustrated.com/index.php/16622/357-mag-federal-125-grain-jhp/

SCmasterblaster
10-19-2012, 21:22
either the Federal or Remington 125gr SJHP rounds. Both are very street-proven. :cool:

9mm +p+
10-19-2012, 21:46
either the Federal or Remington 125gr SJHP rounds. Both are very street-proven. :cool:


This, I've seen both used and they are extremely effective.

SCmasterblaster
10-20-2012, 12:21
either the Federal or Remington 125gr SJHP rounds. Both are very street-proven. :cool:

I have wondered what barrel length the .357 Magnum has made its reputation in? 4-inch, 6-inch?

9mm +p+
10-20-2012, 12:38
I have wondered what barrel length the .357 Magnum has made its reputation in? 4-inch, 6-inch?

4" 125's were designed for police use in the late 70's.

SCmasterblaster
10-20-2012, 12:42
4" 125's were designed for police use in the late 70's.

The holsters for 4-inch revolvers were less expensive than those for 6-inchers.

PghJim
10-20-2012, 12:49
The holsters for 4-inch revolvers were less expensive than those for 6-inchers.

You are kidding right? The barrels were 4" mostly because they were a little lighter, they did not get in the way when sitting or getting in and out of a car and they were faster to get into action. Remember that a the barrel on a revolver is measured ahead of the cylinder, so a 4" barrel would actually be 5+ inches. Pistols are measured from the end of the barrel hood. A 4" revolver would probably be longer than a G17, or close.

I would suspect with the OP's 6" barrel he would get over 1,500fps out of these 125gr loads, assuming a tight cylinder gap.

SCmasterblaster
10-20-2012, 13:00
You are kidding right? The barrels were 4" mostly because they were a little lighter, they did not get in the way when sitting or getting in and out of a car and they were faster to get into action. Remember that a the barrel on a revolver is measured ahead of the cylinder, so a 4" barrel would actually be 5+ inches. Pistols are measured from the end of the barrel hood. A 4" revolver would probably be longer than a G17, or close.

I would suspect with the OP's 6" barrel he would get over 1,500fps out of these 125gr loads, assuming a tight cylinder gap.

makes sense. The six-inch revolvers and their holsters were likely too big. :cool:

rv4driver
10-20-2012, 16:10
Whatever you choose, you might try TargetSports USA. They usually have a pretty good selection and good prices. I've been getting some wicked deals on 9mm and .40S&W lately.
Like 11.99 a box for Remington Golden Saber hollowpoints! Free shipping on cases of ammo. Better than WWB at Wally World.
I roll my own .357 and .38spcl though.

Glock19Fan
10-20-2012, 20:42
Why do you want it to fragment? Any old cup and core bullet should do nicely if that's what you're after...

Just my opinion, but I am thinking that the 1500-1600FPS that can be delivered from a 6 inch .357 magnum barrel are enough to make fragmentation effective.

I am going to do some ballistic gelatin tests soon to see if this is correct. There just arent too many gelatin tests out there with this style bullet from a 6+ inch length barrel.

NEOH212
10-21-2012, 01:13
I would recommend the .357 magnum Federal 125gr SJHP.

Here is a ballistic gel test of the Federal round. This particular article doesn't say the barrel length of the test gun, but all of their other 357 magnum tests have been from a 4.6" Ruger Blackhawk so I assume this test uses the same gun.

http://www.shootingillustrated.com/index.php/16622/357-mag-federal-125-grain-jhp/

For what the OP wants, he would be hard pressed to find anything better. This is one devastating load!

+1 :thumbsup:

PghJim
10-21-2012, 11:25
Maybe I am off base, but I do not see why bullet manufactures cannot make a 0.355" SJHP in 125gr for the 357 Sig. I can feed empty cases in my 357 sig gun so I am pretty sure a little exposed lead would not make a difference. After all, you are feeding 0.355 into a 0.400 hole.

CanyonMan
10-21-2012, 11:45
For two legged critters, I've always favored the Federal 125gr, and I do like the 158 gr in a 357mag as well, probably more.. Both my 4" Smith and the 3 1/16" SP101 are very accurate with these loads.

The SP101 really likes my 180gr HC hand loads and shoots some real small groups at pretty fair ranges. makes for a fun 'small package' for culling smaller deer on the ranch, with the heavier HC.


http://i869.photobucket.com/albums/ab256/yrag5951/stuff%20to%20share/0309011213.jpg

http://i869.photobucket.com/albums/ab256/yrag5951/stuff%20to%20share/0309011218a.jpg




Was just ridin by !


Adios ! :wavey:









CanyonMan

meatloaf samwich
10-21-2012, 19:49
Can't comment on sd ammo but i know freedom munitions has inexpensive range ammo for this caliber.

kmrcstintn
10-21-2012, 20:20
Fiocchi also makes a 125gr semijacketed hollowpoint which looks like the Federal round...just mentioned as another source in case getting either Remington or Federal is difficult

Clutch Cargo
10-21-2012, 20:32
You did not state which revolver you bought. Ammo selection is vital to weapon longevity for some revolvers. My S&W 66 does not get 125gr or lighter ammo. 158gr ammo is much easier on the forcing cone.

SCmasterblaster
10-22-2012, 10:23
You are kidding right? The barrels were 4" mostly because they were a little lighter, they did not get in the way when sitting or getting in and out of a car and they were faster to get into action. Remember that a the barrel on a revolver is measured ahead of the cylinder, so a 4" barrel would actually be 5+ inches. Pistols are measured from the end of the barrel hood. A 4" revolver would probably be longer than a G17, or close.

I would suspect with the OP's 6" barrel he would get over 1,500fps out of these 125gr loads, assuming a tight cylinder gap.

You're correct. I am not familiar with the day-to-day routines of LEOs. :cool:

C J
10-24-2012, 17:03
I bought a box of Buffalo Bore 158 gr JHP. The box is marked 1450 fps. It's not the short barrel, low flash stuff they sell either. Trust me. I shot it out of my Ruger SP101, 2.25". This ammo is rediculous! I wanted the short, low flash stuff, but I bought it from Midway USA. It was out of stock at the time. I figured 'how bad could it be?'.Well I found out real quick. You might like for your 6" barrel though. Good luck.

SCmasterblaster
10-25-2012, 17:53
I have a 6-inch S&W M586. If I carried it, I would have it loaded with Federal .357 125gr JHPs.

Ak.Hiker
10-25-2012, 21:52
I like the Federal 125 grain SJHP in my SP 101. In my 6 inch Python and Security Six I carry any name brand 158 grain SJHP. Both the 158 and 125 grain SJHP are well proven loads for SD.

SCmasterblaster
10-26-2012, 08:59
I like the Federal 125 grain SJHP in my SP 101. In my 6 inch Python and Security Six I carry any name brand 158 grain SJHP. Both the 158 and 125 grain SJHP are well proven loads for SD.

So true. You are not under-gunned! :supergrin: