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Upstate Glocker
10-21-2012, 06:42
Looking for recommendations on low recoiling SD ammo in 9mm. I have resisted a move to .380 however carry lightweight 9mm guns (rotate between Kahr PM9 and Ruger LC9). I have not kept up with the brand changes of late (like, the last 10 years). If anyone has current info on lower power 9mm commercial brands/lines out there please weigh in. Thank you.

WiskyT
10-21-2012, 06:46
Pretty much all 9mm ammo is low recoil. If they lightened it up any more, it wouldn't run half the guns out there. In fact, some of the cheapo ball is so light now it WON'T run half the guns out there.

Providence
10-21-2012, 06:55
I think you'll find that even small .380 pistols will have a pretty good "snap." It's the result of the light weight and small frame. It hurts to practice, but if you ever need to use it in an emergency, you probably won't even feel it.

Kentguy
10-21-2012, 07:34
Upstate Glocker,

"Looking for recommendations on low recoiling SD ammo in 9mm."

I'm not sure the two go hand in hand out of a small CCW type pistol but I'll give you my recommendation.

As my EDC I use a G26 with Hornady 124g XTP HP ammunition. The Box lists the velocity at 1,110 fps but in my tests out of my G26 I came up with 1,058.2 fps as my average. This is still scooting along pretty good - However, in a "self defense" round you kinda want your ammo to get there and get the job done.

I do practice with this load and I don't find that it numbs my wrist or anything. My reacquisition of target is fairly fast and out to 15-20 yards I can keep a nice tight group from a standing free hand position.

I can't ask much more out of a round than that... I hope this helps you in your search.

unit1069
10-21-2012, 08:20
The standard pressure Speer 115-grain Gold Dot is pretty managable. Even through a 3" barrel I think you'd get a minimum of 1150 fps, enough for expansion of the bullet. Fiocchi has a standard pressure 115-grain Extrema XTP that I carry in my 9mm with the 3" barrel but it has more recoil than the Gold Dot.

The important thing, like Kentguy stated, is for the ammo to get the job done. A wimpy round might help save pain for your wrist and hands but is worthless if I fails to stop an attacker before that attacker inflicts injury or death on you and/or loved ones.

Arc Angel
10-21-2012, 09:06
Personally, I find the blowback recoil of my German-made Walther PPK-S to be more strenuous to manage than any 9mm pistol I've ever fired. 9mm recoil really isn't all that much to deal with. (In fact, neither is 45 ACP. Personally, I don't actually notice a distinct manageable difference in pistol recoil until I start shooting 40 S&W and other similar rounds with a sharp ignition pressure curve.)

shotgunred
10-21-2012, 09:45
If 9mm will not work you should look at a 22 magnum pistol.
The 22 mag has very good penetration and will work fine as long as you do your part. shot placement is key.
http://northamericanarms.com/firearms/magnums/mag.html

mike28w
10-21-2012, 10:10
Federal made the EFMJ ( expanding full metal jacket) round a few years ago. It came in 105 grain bullet . I thought that it was less recoil (for me). Always cycled in my Kahr PM9 and Glock 26.....

I later moved to Gold Dots because I got a good deal on a bunch.....

I believe that Federal has changed the name of the EFMJ, but I can't remember what they now call it.... Hope this helps a little.....mike

JW1178
10-21-2012, 12:25
147gr ammo is about as soft shooting as you can get.

PrecisionRifleman
10-21-2012, 12:37
147gr ammo is about as soft shooting as you can get.

I agree, the 147 loads feel like powder puff loads no matter what brand.

kaech
10-21-2012, 13:12
147gr. Federal HST.. will always expand out of a sub barrel

cowboy1964
10-21-2012, 13:40
Yep, 147. HST in particular.

Kentguy
10-21-2012, 19:09
Upstate Glocker,

Just another thought here... If you are seriously looking into carrying a 380, I would recommend purchasing a Bersa Thunder 380 - http://www.bersa.com/

I have one and do carry it on hot summer days when a tee shirt, shorts & sandals are called for. It's small(er) size does not print like my Glock 26 would in a similar situation.

The 3.5" barrel does handle SD ammo better than some of those pocket pistols chambered for the 380 cartridge. I would choose the 90g XTP HP by Hornady of this gun, because I like it, for a 380 it provides deep enough penetration and adequate stopping power to get you out of the immediate danger/confrontation.

I would still stick with the 9mm if given a choice of one or the other.

Just thought I'd toss this out to you. Again good luck in your search.

meatloaf samwich
10-21-2012, 19:41
Have you considered getting a ported bbl from storm lake or barsto? They don't cost that much but the make a huge difference. I have a 357 Sig that I bought a 9mm ported conversion bbl for and the 9mm shoots very soft with the porting. So soft I am going to get a ported bbl for the 357sig.

SCmasterblaster
10-22-2012, 10:04
WWB 115gr FMJ-RN doesn't have much recoil.

collim1
10-24-2012, 02:05
147gr ammo is about as soft shooting as you can get.

I agree. I prefer heavy for caliber any way, but the 147g Gold Dot in a nice shooting round in my P239.

Inebriated
10-24-2012, 02:12
Another vote for 147 grain HST or Gold Dot.

Ljutic
10-24-2012, 06:03
I'm really surprised that this has not been mentioned yet. Hornady Critical Defense is very soft on recoil in 380 and 9mm. It has tested well for me and demonstrates a nice balance of expansion and penetration. I think it might be one for you to try and see if it helps your shooting.

2afreedom
10-25-2012, 09:37
If you're looking for practice ammo, Remington UMC 115gr. always seemed anemic to me.

Roering
10-25-2012, 10:15
Looking for recommendations on low recoiling SD ammo in 9mm. I have resisted a move to .380 however carry lightweight 9mm guns (rotate between Kahr PM9 and Ruger LC9). I have not kept up with the brand changes of late (like, the last 10 years). If anyone has current info on lower power 9mm commercial brands/lines out there please weigh in. Thank you.

If the recoil of a 9mm is too much, you may need to start carrying this.

http://blogs.villagevoice.com/runninscared/blowdart.jpg

digilo
10-25-2012, 10:16
A list of the major commercial offerings, and their bullet weights and velocities

Magtech makes some mild stuff that should be soft shooting

CCI Blazer has a 147 gr HP@950 for 295 ft/lbs ME- should be a soft shooter

http://www.ballistics101.com/9mm.php

SCmasterblaster
10-25-2012, 18:07
147gr ammo is about as soft shooting as you can get.

about how little recoil there is with 147gr 9x19 ammo. :cool:

DWARREN123
10-25-2012, 20:50
Out of my G19's the heavier bullets seem to have less recoil and be easier to get back on target than lighter weight bullets, even max loaded heavy ammo.

SCmasterblaster
10-26-2012, 08:57
Out of my G19's the heavier bullets seem to have less recoil and be easier to get back on target than lighter weight bullets, even max loaded heavy ammo.

One would think that heavy bullets cause more recoil, such as in the .44 Magnum and .357 magnum. :dunno:

TheJ
10-26-2012, 09:23
In competition 147gr is considered by many to be less snappy then the lighter faster 115gr. But for SD ammo many suggest going with the lighter faster 115gr.

SCmasterblaster
10-26-2012, 09:32
In competition 147gr is considered by many to be less snappy then the lighter faster 115gr. But for SD ammo many suggest going with the lighter faster 115gr.

That's right. I use a 115gr JHP +p+ load that has a MV of about 1400 FPS. :cool:

19Glock19
10-29-2012, 18:45
Hornady Critical Defense 115gr is about the lowest recoil I ever felt... I don't care about recoil however, but the gun didn't move... just sayin'

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SCmasterblaster
10-30-2012, 07:34
try the Winchester White Box 115gr FMJRN. :cool:

davsco
10-30-2012, 08:32
muzzle energy is a good indicator of recoil. look on the various boxes of ammo or check out the websites of the manufacturers. as noted above, generally the heavier bullets (eg 147g) will have less muzzle energy vs the lighter ones (eg 115g).

SCmasterblaster
10-30-2012, 08:56
muzzle energy is a good indicator of recoil. look on the various boxes of ammo or check out the websites of the manufacturers. as noted above, generally the heavier bullets (eg 147g) will have less muzzle energy vs the lighter ones (eg 115g).

I never thought to look at it this way. Muzzle energy vs. recoil.

PaulMason
10-30-2012, 08:59
http://www.ballisticsbytheinch.com/megraphs/9mm.html

SCmasterblaster
10-30-2012, 09:09
http://www.ballisticsbytheinch.com/megraphs/9mm.html

A very nice graph. Thanks!

SCmasterblaster
10-30-2012, 09:11
http://www.ballisticsbytheinch.com/megraphs/9mm.html

I wonder what they used for an 18-inch 9mm?

AGAF
10-30-2012, 15:18
147 gr standard pressure ammo has better penetration than any +P ammo in a lighter bullet through a multitude of barriers. You also get less recoil. There is test data that confirms this.

cluznar
10-30-2012, 18:33
I agree with Hornady Critical Defense 115gr ammo for 9mm it has soft recoil.

Try a Ruger SR9c they have very manageable recoil.

:dancing:

SCmasterblaster
10-31-2012, 09:41
As far as light bullet, moderate speed 9mm bullets, try the Winchester White Box 115gr FMJRN loads.