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JimBianchi
10-21-2012, 21:21
A "non-partisan" polling group called me tonight and one of the questions was:


Would you rather see an an obstructionist Republican elected to the House that will impede President Obama's legislative agenda or a Democratic who will help get things passed?

My answer: President Obama will not be re-elected and I will always prefer a Republican to help curb spending.


That was by far the most loaded question, some were harder to spot.

janice6
10-21-2012, 21:27
And there is the explanation of the Obama poll numbers.

aircarver
10-21-2012, 21:29
I'd tell 'em I want all those commie sumbiches out, and reversal of everything Obama and his regime have ever done .....

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Tango 1Zero
10-21-2012, 21:36
Im tired of all the **** phone calls and people calling to take a survey. I just tell them **** OBAMA! and hang up.

countrygun
10-21-2012, 21:37
My first thought to the thread title was "Whoa Dude, TMI"

but upon reading the OP it actually made me think that the questions and the folks doing the surveys are "polling" America alright, but not in the good way.

Angry Fist
10-21-2012, 21:38
I would have answered... Suicide Hotline....

RWBlue
10-21-2012, 22:09
Always get the name of the group.

certifiedfunds
10-21-2012, 22:11
Unapologetic push poling. Every poll I've ever been called on is the same way. I quit participating.

JimBianchi
10-21-2012, 23:18
My favorite poll was about a month ago, I was asked to log onto a website and sigh a petition to stop people from using a cell phone and texting while driving.

I asked him if he should be asking me this while I am driving. He asked me to write down the website and do it when I get home.

I said I was driving! He insisted,

I hung up.

Happy Hunting
10-22-2012, 00:23
Wow. I do not live in a swing state and have only been polled once by Rassmussen(sp) about my experience depositing a check.

That kind of question should discredit the entire organization collecting numbers.

IvanVic
10-22-2012, 04:40
Sounds like you handled it well. I've never been polled but I'd find it easiest to say that Obama is a socialist, incompetent president and hang up. I'm sure they have to list "undecided" or something along those lines if they don't complete the survey.


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JFrame
10-22-2012, 07:06
A "non-partisan" polling group called me tonight and one of the questions was:


Would you rather see an an obstructionist Republican elected to the House that will impede President Obama's legislative agenda or a Democratic who will help get things passed?

My answer: President Obama will not be re-elected and I will always prefer a Republican to help curb spending.


That was by far the most loaded question, some were harder to spot.


Such polling, and people stupid enough to answer them without having the awareness of how the questions are skewed, would certainly help to explain the poll results we've seen for the past year...


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Sam Spade
10-22-2012, 07:09
No one ever calls me to ask my opinion...:crying:

certifiedfunds
10-22-2012, 07:36
No one ever calls me to ask my opinion...:crying:

Register independent. Then sit and wait.

sheriff733
10-22-2012, 07:39
I wonder if those types of questions explain the recent "tightening" of the popular vote "polls?"


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FFR Spyder GT
10-22-2012, 09:17
I've been polled twice this year.

Once for Romney and I said that I wouldn't vote for him even if the other candidate was the Anti-Christ himself. Pollester said "I'll put you down as unhappy with Obama and a "maybe" for Romney." then she hung up.

I told the Obama Pollester the same thing and she said "I'll list you as a "likely voter" in November." then she hung up.

I don't see how either one came to the conclusion that I would vote for their candidate.

F350
10-22-2012, 09:22
I live in a swing state, Colorado; I get at least 1 poll call a day, yesterday it was 3, I get called by Rasmussen around once a week, at least with Rasmussen it is a live person. Last night I asked the lady if was common to call the same people weekly, she said yes that reliable people are called to look for shifts in opinion, I said "talk to ya next week" and she just laughed.

Poll numbers can act to cause discouragement or excitement, I want to keep Republican numbers up to maybe encourage people inclined to vote Republican to get out and vote.

Jud325
10-22-2012, 09:36
This is how a real poll works.

Copied in full with permission.

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James Lee, President
To: All Media and Interested Parties
RE: PA Presidential/US Senate Statewide Poll Results DATE: October 18, 2012

Following is a brief overview of our latest statewide poll conducted in the Keystone State from October 11th – 13th (prior to the 10/16 debate) with 1,376 likely voters. The poll was commissioned on behalf of the Republican State Committee of Pennsylvania, with permission to release its complete findings. Below is a summary of key findings, followed by top line results and an explanation of survey methodology
.
. GOP Nominee Mitt Romney has taken the lead over Barack Obama in the Keystone State by a 49% to 45% margin, reversing Obama’s 2-point lead in SP&R’s last poll conducted 10/3-10/6. This marks the first time any publicly released poll has shown Romney with a lead. An additional 2% are voting for Libertarian Gary Johnson, with 1% for Green Party candidate Jill Stein. Only 2% remain undecided.
. Romney’s lead represents a 6-point jump in support when compared with 43% support this summer, while Obama’s 45% shows 3-point drop from a high of 48% in past polls. Romney continues to keep a strong lock on the GOP vote, winning Republicans by an 86-9 margin, while still syphoning 18% of the Democratic vote mainly from social and cultural Democrats, affectionately referred to as “Reagan Democrats”. Romney also leads by 12 points among registered Independents (47-35) - a statistically significant finding perhaps the first time proving Independent and swing voters are breaking his way.
. Romney’s lead is proof his strong debate performances are having a lasting impact, as evidenced by our last poll conducted 10/4-10/6 which showed Mitt Romney with a healthy favorable image (+6 positive, or 48-42 favorable) and even better than Obama’s (+3 positive, or 50-47). This is clear evidence the debates have helped not only win over swing and undecided voters, but are neutralizing the negative perceptions Pennsylvanians had of Romney from negative TV ads sponsored by Obama-supported super PACs. Furthermore, regional support shows Romney has managed to run up big margins in Western Pa. with conservative Democrats and at the same time make significant inroads in the socially-moderate, vote-rich Philadelphia suburbs where Romney now leads 48-46. Winning the suburban Philadelphia collar counties would be an historic accomplishment since no Republican presidential nominee has carried these counties in decades.

. Also in the poll, GOP Senate nominee Tom Smith leads Democratic US Senator Bob Casey 48-46, technically within the poll’s 2.64% margin of error. This is perhaps the first poll showing Smith with a lead – representing a 12-point gain from polling this summer while Casey’s support has flat-lined. SP&R was the first to show this race a tossup, with Casey leading only 46-41 in a September poll sponsored by the Pittsburgh Tribune Review.
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Final Top Line Survey Results
PA Statewide – Presidential Tracking Poll (Automated)
Sample Size: 1,376 Likely General Election Voters
Conducted: October 11-13, 2012

Hello, this is Voter Survey Service conducting a 2-minute survey in Pennsylvania today.
Your answers to this survey will remain both strictly confidential and anonymous.
Q1. Thinking ahead to the upcoming election for President on Tuesday, November 6th, please rate your
chances of voting in this election as excellent, good, fair or poor? For excellent, press 1. For good, press 2.
For fair, press 3. For poor, press 4.
1. Excellent 1,321 96%
2. Good 55 04%
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3. Fair (TERMINATE)
4. Poor (TERMINATE)

Q2. Which issue will most influence your vote in the election for President? Is it the candidate’s position on
(ROTATE ITEMS) job creation and improving the economy; taxes, spending and budget deficits; international
issues and dealing with threats from foreign nations; social or cultural issues like abortion or gay marriage;
strengthening and protecting entitlement programs like Social Security and Medicare?
…..Which of these you just heard is most important?
For improving the economy, press 1. For taxes, spending and deficits, press 2. For international issues and
dealing with foreign threats, press 3. For social or cultural issues, press 4. For strengthening and protecting
entitlement programs, press 5. If something else, press 6. To refuse any question throughout this survey,
press 9.
567 (41%) 1. Job creation and improving the economy
302 (22%) 2. Taxes, spending and budget deficits
84 (06%) 3. International issues and dealing with foreign nations
177 (13%) 4. Social or cultural issues like abortion or gay marriage
171 (12%) 5. Strengthening and protecting entitlement programs
45 (03%) 6. Other

Q3. If the election for president were held today and the candidates were… (ROTATE CHOICES) Mitt Romney, the Republican candidate, Barack Obama, the Democratic candidate, Gary Johnson, the Libertarian Party candidate, Jill Stein (Stine), the Green Party candidate – for whom would you vote?
To vote for Republican Mitt Romney, press 1. To vote for Democrat Barack Obama, press 2. To vote for Green Party candidate Jill Stein, press 3. To vote for Libertarian Party candidate Gary Johnson, press 4. If undecided, press 5.
1. Mitt Romney 675 49%
2. Barack Obama 625 45%
3. Jill Stein 10 01%
4. Gary Johnson 28 02%
5. Undecided 32 02%
(IF UNDECIDED, ASK Q4)

Q4. Since you are still undecided, are you leaning towards voting for any of the candidates?
For Mitt Romney, press 1. For Barack Obama, press 2. For Jill Stein, press 3. For Gary Johnson, press 4. If undecided, press 5.
[N=32]
1. Mitt Romney 13 42%
2. Barack Obama 2 05%
3. Jill Stein 1 02%
4. Gary Johnson 2 06%
5. Undecided 14 44%

Q5. If the election for United States Senate were held today would you vote for Tom Smith, the Republican candidate, or Bob Casey, Jr., the Democratic candidate? (ROTATE NAMES)
To vote for Republican Tom Smith, press 1. To vote for Democrat Bob Casey, Jr., press 2. To vote for another candidate, press 3. If undecided, press 4.
1. Smith 660 48%
2. Casey, Jr. 638 46%
3. Other 15 01%
4. Undecided 63 05%

Now, following are a few demographic questions to ensure we are getting a representative sample…

Q6. Are you registered to vote as a Republican, Democrat, Independent or something else?
If Republican, press 1. If Democrat, press 2. If Independent or something else, press 3.
1. Republican 578 42%
2. Democrat 660 48%
3. Independent/other 138 10%

Q7. Is your age range in years between 18 to 29, 30 to 44, 45 to 59 or 60 and over?
If 18 to 19 years old, press 1. If 30 to 44 years old, press 2. If 45 to 59 years old, press 3. If 60 years old or older, press 4.
1. 18-29 138 10%
2. 30-44 344 25%
3. 45-59 440 32%
4. 60+ 454 33%

Q8. Are you a male or female? If male, press 1. If female, press 2.
1. Male 660 48%
2. Female 716 52%

Q9. Is your main racial background of Caucasian, Hispanic, African American or another background?
If Caucasian, press 1. If Hispanic, press 2. If African-American, press 3. If another background, press 4.
1. White/Caucasian 1,211 88%
2. Hispanic 14 01%
3. African-American 138 10%
4. Other 14 01%

Thank you for your participation in this survey conducted by Voter Survey Service. Offices located at 10 N. Progress Avenue, Harrisburg, Pennsylvania 17109. Telephone number 717-233-8850.

Q10. Area (from record):
55 (04%) 1. Northwest [Erie, Crawford, Mercer, Venango, Warren, Forest]
151 (11%) 2. Southwest [Lawrence, Beaver, Washington, Greene, Fayette, Westmoreland, Indiana, Armstrong, Butler]
179 (13%) 3. The “T”/Central [Jefferson, Elk, McKean, Cameron, Clarion, Clearfield, Centre, Cambria, Somerset, Bedford, Fulton, Franklin, Huntingdon, Blair, Potter, Tioga, Bradford, Susquehanna, Wyoming, Sullivan, Lycoming, Clinton, Union, Snyder, Northumberland, Montour, Columbia, Mifflin, Juniata]
179 (13%) 4. Northeast/Lehigh Valley [Luzerne, Carbon, Monroe, Schuylkill, Lackawanna, Lehigh, Northampton, Pike, Wayne]
234 (17%) 5. South Central [Perry, Cumberland, Adams, York, Lancaster, Lebanon, Dauphin, Berks]
303 (22%) 6. Southeast [Chester, Delaware, Montgomery, Bucks]
138 (10%) 7. Allegheny County
138 (10%) 8. Philadelphia

Q11. Voted – 1 or 4 or better in G11, G10, G09 and/or G08, as well as new reg.’s since 11/11 (from record):
0X 38 03%
1X 218 16%
2X 389 28%
3X 292 21%
4X 441 32%

Methodology: This poll was commissioned by Republican State Committee of Pennsylvania. Completed interviews were conducted October 11-13, 2012 using automated polling software both owned by Susquehanna Polling and Research and programmed by our internal survey associates. The universe for the poll includes likely general election voters who have prior vote history in at least one of G11, G10, G09 and/or G08, as well as new registered voters since November 2011. Pre-qualified voters are then asked to complete the survey by scoring their answers to a pre-recorded series of questions using their telephone key pads. The surveys are carefully monitored to ensure a representative sample of Pennsylvania’s electorate is achieved based on party, geographic location, age, gender and other demographics. Results can be statistically weighted to adjust for either an over or under-sample of respondents within demographic groups. The margin of error for a sample size of 1,376 interviews is +/-2.64% at the 95% confidence level.
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SP&R is a leading survey research and public opinion polling firm, and conducts polling primarily on behalf of candidates for public office (GOP only) in PA, NJ, NY, FL and DE, as well as for numerous corporate and media clients. According to a composite listing of polls by realclearpolitics.com SP&R was the most accurate polling firm in the 2010 elections in both the PA US Senate race (Toomey/Sestak) and the Florida Gubernatorial Primary (Scott/McCollum).

FL Airedale
10-22-2012, 11:50
I was polled by a "non-partisan" polling organization that was asking about the state senate race. New lines were drawn and two incumbent state senators were vying for the same seat.

They asked several demographic questions then said "Are you more likely to vote for the do nothing candidate X, who hasn't sponsored a single bill in the last 2 years, or candidate Y who has sponsored numerous bills that are beneficial to the people of Florida?" Yes, they actually called one of them, the do nothing candidate.

I told the pollster that I was undecided until that moment and I chose candidate X because he didn't have someone call me an lie about being a non-partisan pollster.

ICARRY2
10-22-2012, 12:46
A "non-partisan" polling group called me tonight and one of the questions was:


Would you rather see an an obstructionist Republican elected to the House that will impede President Obama's legislative agenda or a Democratic who will help get things passed?

My answer: President Obama will not be re-elected and I will always prefer a Republican to help curb spending.


That was by far the most loaded question, some were harder to spot.

My answer....the obstructionist republican. :)

Skyhook
10-22-2012, 13:40
A "non-partisan" polling group called me tonight and one of the questions was:


Would you rather see an an obstructionist Republican elected to the House that will impede President Obama's legislative agenda or a Democratic who will help get things passed?

My answer: President Obama will not be re-elected and I will always prefer a Republican to help curb spending.


That was by far the most loaded question, some were harder to spot.


"Would you rather see an an obstructionist Republican elected to the House that will impede President Obama's legislative agenda or a Democratic who will help get things passed?
"

Any chance the candidate being promoted was named X-Lax?:dunno:

countrygun
10-22-2012, 13:56
"Would you rather see an an obstructionist Republican elected to the House that will impede President Obama's legislative agenda or a Democratic who will help get things passed?
"

Any chance the candidate being promoted was named X-Lax?:dunno:

And his wifes name is "Du Che' "

:rofl:

Skyhook
10-22-2012, 14:05
And his wifes name is "Du Che' "

:rofl:

Annnnd, there ya have it! :rofl:

IndyGunFreak
10-22-2012, 14:30
Unapologetic push poling. Every poll I've ever been called on is the same way. I quit participating.

Pretty much... I suspect when it is the actual campaign doing their own polling, the questions aren't near that loaded, because they are looking for real data on where to put resources.

The one time I've been polled, was during the Bush/Kerry election. They identified themselves as being w/ the Bush campaign (or something like the 'Bush reelection campaign')... and it was pretty much... Are you registered and if so, who do you plan to vote for. The question wasn't loaded at all.