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Captain Ron
10-22-2012, 10:27
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1012/82701.html?hp=r3 This could get interesting :cool:

wjv
10-22-2012, 10:40
Donald Trump said Monday that he will reveal “very big” news about President Barack Obama by Wednesday

He'll probably be found dead from "natural causes" on Tuesday night, with no trace of any evidence regarding Obama, to be found. :whistling:

All Pro Sports Hero
10-22-2012, 10:52
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1012/82701.html?hp=r3 This could get interesting :cool:


Unfortunately, the truth just doesn't matter to the brain dead American Idol voter base in this country.

Trump could reveal a photograpgh of Obama being birthed by Eva Braun, and nobody would care. And the MSM would never report it.

GTFord1
10-22-2012, 10:54
I hope it's half as exciting as the other "bombshell" announcements that have been released. We may not be able to contain our excitement otherwise.

frizz
10-22-2012, 10:55
What is he going to do? Spout another birther rumor?

The man is a lame attention whore. I cannot understand why people respect him.

PBCounty
10-22-2012, 10:56
I'm sorry, I like Trump....I get a kick out of him - but this reeks of another one of his attention whore fixes.

kensb2
10-22-2012, 10:58
If it's so important, and could 'change the election', then why is he releasing the info on Twitter? I know the MSM has become a joke, but I still think going on GMA for instance would be a little better than Twitter. For all we know, he's got a bet with a buddy of his that he can or can't him X,000,000 Twitter followers by Thursday.

GTFord1
10-22-2012, 10:58
I'm sorry, I like Trump....I get a kick out of him - but this reeks of another one of his attention whore fixes.

No no, this one is different. Remember the big Breitbart announcement that was going to bring Obama down? This one is TWICE as damaging.

Of course, when you multiply against a decimal you're not getting much, but still.

badge315
10-22-2012, 10:59
I'm sorry, I like Trump....I get a kick out of him - but this reeks of another one of his attention whore fixes.

^This.

pizza_pablo
10-22-2012, 11:12
I reckon the reason for waiting, until Wednesday, is to keep barry from defending or refuting the reveal, at the debate.

mgs
10-22-2012, 11:19
We already know Barry is a fraud!.......Headline: "One Term President was Never a Citizen of USA".

bocaboca
10-22-2012, 11:22
Trump = Geraldo Rivera

mgs
10-22-2012, 11:28
"Illegal Obama Campaign Donations made with Fake Credit Card Zipcodes"!

noway
10-22-2012, 11:31
Trump & Rush are about as sorry as one can get. I could care less on his big news and he's probably going to look silly no matter what he does or say.

aircarver
10-22-2012, 11:36
He'll probably be found dead from "natural causes" on Tuesday night, with no trace of any evidence regarding Obama, to be found. :whistling:

That's a Hitlery specialty ... & she's 'on the outs' with Obamao .....:whistling:

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mgs
10-22-2012, 11:42
That's a Hitlery specialty ... & she's 'on the outs' with Obamao .....:whistling:

.

That about sums it up!

Dennis in MA
10-22-2012, 11:44
Big news: If he loses on Election Night, Trump is prepared to have yet another season of Celebrity Apprentice starring Barry in the crew. :rofl:

itstime
10-22-2012, 12:10
I like Trump. I hope it is awesome. I doubt but still hoping.

vart
10-22-2012, 12:18
http://thebizmom.files.wordpress.com/2011/03/attention-seeker.jpg

JW1178
10-22-2012, 12:20
This could be bad more than it could be good. If it has truth behind it, and is true, yes it could hurt Obama, make him look bad right before the election. However, if it's a bunch of hype or something twisted or untrue, it will make the Romney side look trashy and gain sympathy for Obama.

Trump is just a guy like us, except he's famous because of his money. Anyways, he has no inside sources, so what could he tell? He does however, have the money and position to say get someone to talk or whatever, or use this hype to bring a story to light that has been snubbed.

bocaboca
10-22-2012, 12:39
there going to open the al capone safe again

Rabbi
10-22-2012, 12:49
Trump is just a guy like us, except he's famous because of his money. Anyways, he has no inside sources, so what could he tell? He does however, have the money and position to say get someone to talk or whatever, or use this hype to bring a story to light that has been snubbed.

I dont haver a clue what Trump is doing but to say someone with Trumps money/power/influence doesnt have inside sources is lacking.

I dont think most people realize what 10 figures gets you.

BTW, he isnt famous because of his money. If you look at a Forbes 400 list, most people have never even heard but a handful of names on that list. Outside of the actual 3 or 4 celebrities on the list (Lucas, Oprah, Speilberg...) few of the rest are celebrity level famous. Trump is famous because he sells a brand. That fame is WHY he has the money.

nursetim
10-22-2012, 12:54
Media whore, that's all he is, trump I mean.

G36's Rule
10-22-2012, 12:58
I'm sorry, I like Trump....I get a kick out of him - but this reeks of another one of his attention whore fixes.

+100

Except for the part about liking the turd...

devildog2067
10-22-2012, 13:28
BTW, he isnt famous because of his money. If you look at a Forbes 400 list, most people have never even heard but a handful of names on that list. Outside of the actual 3 or 4 celebrities on the list (Lucas, Oprah, Speilberg...) few of the rest are celebrity level famous.

Yep.

How many of us can name the current CEO of Microsoft? (Hint: it's not Bill Gates)

GE? Bank of America?

Heck, I just did some work in the banking and financial services space, and I had to look up the CEO's name for Bank of America.

How many of us can name someone other that George Soros who made it big in hedge funds?

Rich people don't typically get famous. Certainly not just for having money.

michael_b
10-22-2012, 13:28
BTW, he isnt famous because of his money. If you look at a Forbes 400 list, most people have never even heard but a handful of names on that list. Outside of the actual 3 or 4 celebrities on the list (Lucas, Oprah, Speilberg...) few of the rest are celebrity level famous. Trump is famous because he sells a brand. That fame is WHY he has the money.

Rabbi nailed it right on the head.


-On mobile

RonS
10-22-2012, 13:52
Whatever.

I suppose with Trump's money he could have the resources to dig up dirt on him. Unless the American people reject his policies some other politician will just replace him advancing state socialism.

Bilbo Bagins
10-22-2012, 13:57
Trump big Obama announcement is....

The 14 season of Apprentice will be an "All Star Addition" :rofl:

http://tv.yahoo.com/news/donald-trumps-back-14-apprentice-stars-121944674.html

Sept 2010 Due to lackluster ratings, rumors are starting to swirl that this will be the last season of "The Apprentice" on NBC.
http://blog.zap2it.com/frominsidethebox/2010/09/tv-ratings-the-apprentice-opens-weak-cbs-leads-thursday.html

http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2010/09/17/tv-ratings-thursday-apprentice-goes-low-vampire-diaries-nikita-fall/63860/

http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2010/03/15/tv-ratings-undercover-boss-beats-trumps-apprentice-sons-of-tucson-orphaned/44878/

October 2010 , Trump says he is considering running for President.
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/donald_trump_seriously_considers_HpwRnhtvmQ2UcNKIcCZxvI

A lot of idiot lemming get excited, wanting to see him run.

In May 2011 he says he is no longer running when NBC releases their fall lineup and keeps the Apprentice :whistling:

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/donald_trump_seriously_considers_HpwRnhtvmQ2UcNKIcCZxvI

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/05/16/donald-trump-not-running-president-2012_n_862514.html

Detectorist
10-22-2012, 14:21
I dont haver a clue what Trump is doing but to say someone with Trumps money/power/influence doesnt have inside sources is lacking.

I dont think most people realize what 10 figures gets you.

BTW, he isnt famous because of his money. If you look at a Forbes 400 list, most people have never even heard but a handful of names on that list. Outside of the actual 3 or 4 celebrities on the list (Lucas, Oprah, Speilberg...) few of the rest are celebrity level famous. Trump is famous because he sells a brand. That fame is WHY he has the money.

I agree 100% with you. He has the money to get information. Just like the National Enquirer.

I hope it's newsworthy info, though.

vikingsoftpaw
10-22-2012, 15:21
Meh...I'm all bombshelled out.

Rabbi
10-22-2012, 15:22
Yep.

How many of us can name the current CEO of Microsoft? (Hint: it's not Bill Gates)

GE? Bank of America?

Heck, I just did some work in the banking and financial services space, and I had to look up the CEO's name for Bank of America.

How many of us can name someone other that George Soros who made it big in hedge funds?

Rich people don't typically get famous. Certainly not just for having money.

There are two Forbes listers who live by me. One is actually somewhat famous, the other, to anyone outside of here is a "who?"

I see him at the store looking for a good wine for dinner or out walking a dog. Yeah, he lives in a magnificent home, but it isnt even in a gated community. You can walk right up to the front door and try to sell him a vacuum (or whatever).

That is one of the wonderful things about being rich in the United States (and in some part of Europe) Few people would know you outside of your sphere and if you feel the need to be "big time"...drive up in a Lamborghini. (In other words, you can turn it on if you feel the need)

Most of the truly extravagant things the very wealthy do are done in private. No one know when you are on your plane blowing throught a Ferrari worth of gas in a long weekend. No one is paying attention to another 7 figure check for the upkeep on your yacht.

The point being here, most of the outward signs of wealth, the clothes, the watch, the car, are a drop in the bucket.....At the local starbucks it is impossible to tell the difference in wealth between a Surgeon and a Billionaire, if neither are known to you. The things they do in private...are magnitudes of order apart.

mac66
10-22-2012, 15:38
I think Trump is a birther so I expect that he found somebody's mother's cousin's, great uncle once removed who said that his neighbor remembers when Barack was born in BFE.

Louisville Glocker
10-22-2012, 15:47
Trump is somewhat of an idiot. Good at marketing, and definitely a megalomaniac. Power to him, it is a free country. A good friend of mine (former college roommate) was vice president at Trump Enterprises (or whatever he was calling it at the time) in NY. No great stories I'm allowed to repeat (sorry), but apparently he walked around like king of the world, and treated virtually everyone accordingly.

So sure, he's a good marketer, and sure, he's gotten lucky more times than he's been unlucky, and sure he's rich. But I personally don't think luck, and wealth and marketing make you any more intelligent than they do make you qualified to run a country.

I count him in the obnoxious dumbass ******* category of humans.

Beretta92guy
10-22-2012, 16:03
us realists need to understand that Barrack Obama could have been the grandson of Adolf Hitler and he would have still been elected to office, with Jesse Jackson and Oprahs approval.......

this election will be no different......and since the same bunch of mindless ghetto-rats will be out voting for him like they did last time because he is black, i hate to say but we will have four more years of this waste-of-humanity!!!!!!

frizz
10-22-2012, 16:15
Yep.

How many of us can name the current CEO of Microsoft? (Hint: it's not Bill Gates)

GE? Bank of America?

Heck, I just did some work in the banking and financial services space, and I had to look up the CEO's name for Bank of America.

How many of us can name someone other that George Soros who made it big in hedge funds?

Rich people don't typically get famous. Certainly not just for having money.

Fame brings headaches and more security risks. If I were to net, say $150 million, in the Powerball, I'd stay really low key.

Chesafreak
10-22-2012, 16:26
So sure, he's a good marketer, and sure, he's gotten lucky more times than he's been unlucky, and sure he's rich. But I personally don't think luck, and wealth and marketing make you any more intelligent than they do make you qualified to run a country.

I don't think it's luck, although I do believe that intelligence has something to do with it. From the books I have read, I think that what sets the filthy rich apart from the average joe is the ability to spot an opportunity, the guts to jump on it even when others think you're crazy, and the tenacity to see it to completion. The ability to think differently (think outside the box) and challenge assumptions are also traits of the rich. Meanwhile the rest of us think about how life sucks and feel powerless to change.

Nah, I don't think luck has anything to do with it. I know for a fact he has filed for corporate bankruptcy four times yet he is still a billionaire. He's got the stones to do what we only dream of.

frizz
10-22-2012, 16:27
I dont haver a clue what Trump is doing but to say someone with Trumps money/power/influence doesnt have inside sources is lacking.

I dont think most people realize what 10 figures gets you.

I think $100,000,000 puts you in the "more money than G-d" section, so taking that up an order of magnitude...

But to your point of what Big Money gets you, I think it is safe to say that if a billionaire really wants you dead, you will soon have a resting heart rate of zero beats per minute. And there will be no consequences for the billionaire.

Well, including the hit squad maybe a few days of investment interest. If that.

LASTRESORT20
10-22-2012, 16:37
What is he going to do? Spout another birther rumor?

The man is a lame attention whore. I cannot understand why people respect him.


:upeyes:People respect him because he is "successful" and "earns" money.... Something Liberal/Socialist Lemmings will never understand.....whats great about "Trump" the dear leader "protective" lemmings hate him.....Oh....and the "Birther" thing....It will always be a "rumor" to the "proud" lemmings....anything else... will just crush them emotionally.

frizz
10-22-2012, 16:50
I don't think it's luck, although I do believe that intelligence has something to do with it. From the books I have read, I think that what sets the filthy rich apart from the average joe is the ability to spot an opportunity, the guts to jump on it even when others think you're crazy, and the tenacity to see it to completion. The ability to think differently (think outside the box) and challenge assumptions are also traits of the rich. Meanwhile the rest of us think about how life sucks and feel powerless to change.

Nah, I don't think luck has anything to do with it. I know for a fact he has filed for corporate bankruptcy four times yet he is still a billionaire. He's got the stones to do what we only dream of.

I think he has been very successful, but you have to look at what he started with. He wasn't exactly born to a ditch-digging dad and a maid mother.

Being born into is a matter of luck, and being born into money provides advantages. It opens the door for making connections. He went to Wharton, and made connections with people; those connections were and are far more valuable than the education.

So yes, he has skill, but you can't ignore the luck.

frizz
10-22-2012, 17:20
:upeyes:People respect him because he is "successful" and "earns" money.... Something Liberal/Socialist Lemmings will never understand.....whats great about "Trump" the dear leader "protective" lemmings hate him.....Oh....and the "Birther" thing....It will always be a "rumor" to the "proud" lemmings....anything else... will just crush them emotionally.

There is a lot more to a man than how much money he makes. One of those things is strength of character.

Cheating on one's wife does not show strength of character. Lack of humility does not show strength of character. An extreme need for attention does not show strength of character, and is something of a paradox since he thinks so little of ordinary people.


And on the birther thing, the evidence is very weak, and the many arguments I have read are sorely lacking.

You believe it because you want to. Proof is demanded. BO puts up a copy of his Hawai'i birth document. People complain that it is not the "long form" or that it is a forgery. He has the original document put up, and what do you know, it is a forgery.

I'll grant the birthers this: Their arguments and evidence make a stronger case than the arguments and evidence that the Moon landings were faked.

Dennis in MA
10-22-2012, 17:26
Yep.

How many of us can name the current CEO of Microsoft? (Hint: it's not Bill Gates)

GE? Bank of America?

Heck, I just did some work in the banking and financial services space, and I had to look up the CEO's name for Bank of America.

How many of us can name someone other that George Soros who made it big in hedge funds?

Rich people don't typically get famous. Certainly not just for having money.

Bernie Madoff. Lol

Kramer. (Smart Money, not Seinfeld, although interchangeable. Lol)

Rabbi
10-22-2012, 17:37
There is a lot more to a man than how much money he makes. One of those things is strength of character.

Cheating on one's wife does not show strength of character. Lack of humility does not show strength of character. An extreme need for attention does not show strength of character, and is something of a paradox since he thinks so little of ordinary people.


And on the birther thing, the evidence is very weak, and the many arguments I have read are sorely lacking.

You believe it because you want to. Proof is demanded. BO puts up a copy of his Hawai'i birth document. People complain that it is not the "long form" or that it is a forgery. He has the original document put up, and what do you know, it is a forgery.

I'll grant the birthers this: Their arguments and evidence make a stronger case than the arguments and evidence that the Moon landings were faked.

That is how you see it. Hell, you may even be right but everyone has opinions. Few have many options. At the end of the day, Trump wakes up with Trumps options, you wake up with yours.

frizz
10-22-2012, 18:03
That is how you see it. Hell, you may even be right but everyone has opinions. Few have many options. At the end of the day, Trump wakes up with Trumps options, you wake up with yours.

I don't follow your point. The person I replied to mentioned his wealth giving him respectability. (That and something about angering arctic rodents.)

Sure, he has more options in a day than I will have in a lifetime, but I was looking at what he has done with his options.

devildog2067
10-22-2012, 18:22
Bernie Madoff. Lol

Kramer. (Smart Money, not Seinfeld, although interchangeable. Lol)

Madoff was a market maker, not a hedge fund guy.

Cramer Berkowitz had less than half a million assets under management when Jim Cramer left.

Jim Cramer was and is far richer than I am and probably far richer than I ever will be, but he's nobody in the hedge fund world. Ray Dalio has $120B AUM. Jim Simons had $10+B in a fund that was just his employees' money, it was closed to outside investment.

I'm not trying to be a jerk, and thanks for making my point for me. Most people don't even really know what a hedge fund is or does, let alone who the big names are.

(My brother is an investment banker, and he likes to joke that most hedge fund guys don't really know what "hedge" means. "Hedge means like cool, right? Like that Bentley is really hedge")

Rabbi
10-22-2012, 18:33
I don't follow your point. The person I replied to mentioned his wealth giving him respectability. (That and something about angering arctic rodents.)

Sure, he has more options in a day than I will have in a lifetime, but I was looking at what he has done with his options.

You missing my point doesnt change my point.

You have an opinion on the man. You express it as some great universal truth about how people should be judged. Which is pretty ludicrous itself, even if you are right but it is still a great irony.

Again, opinions are free. At the end of the day, that is all you have. While he goes about his Donald Trump life.

M&P Shooter
10-22-2012, 18:58
Could it be that Obama and Rosie have a secret love child:whistling:
http://i852.photobucket.com/albums/ab89/Glock40guy/honey-rosie-450x600.jpg

Bruce M
10-22-2012, 20:08
....

BTW, he isnt famous because of his money. If you look at a Forbes 400 list, most people have never even heard but a handful of names on that list. Outside of the actual 3 or 4 celebrities on the list (Lucas, Oprah, Speilberg...) few of the rest are celebrity level famous. Trump is famous because he sells a brand. That fame is WHY he has the money.


Wait. Hold on. Are you saying there are actually people who are as rich as Trump or Oprah but are not well known to the general public??:whistling:

Rabbi
10-22-2012, 20:24
Wait. Hold on. Are you saying there are actually people who are as rich as Trump or Oprah but are not well known to the general public??:whistling:

Most people couldnt tell you who someone like Donald Bren or Len BlavatniK are. Even fewer would ever have the slightest clue if they sat next to them at a burger joint.

Either one of them has a net worth more than probably the richest 20 celebrities in the world combined.

Hell, we all know who the "Waltons" are...would any of you have a clue who they were if you saw them in line at Starbucks?

Bruce M
10-22-2012, 20:35
Of course I would recognize the Waltons

http://cdn.inquisitr.com/wp-content/2011/12/the-waltons-40th-anniversary-today-show-interview.jpg

UtahIrishman
10-22-2012, 20:39
Trump is a buffoon and a bore...not necessarily in that order

Money doesn't impress me, at least not in this case. Rabbi and devildog I don't disagree with your point of view very often, but your drawing a red herring named big money in front of the real point.

And that point is, rich or poor, Trump is an ass and an attention seeker. I highly doubt he has anything of real value to offer.

I'll take bets on that.

Rabbi
10-22-2012, 20:44
Trump is a buffoon and a bore...not necessarily in that order

Money doesn't impress me, at least not in this case. Rabbi and devildog I don't disagree with your point of view very often, but your drawing a red herring named big money in front of the real point.

And that point is, rich or poor, Trump is an ass and an attention seeker. I highly doubt he has anything of real value to offer.

I'll take bets on that.

I dont have a clue if he has anything. my guess is, no he doenst.

But you need to understand, Trump is a brand. If you dont understand what branding is, then Donald Trump will never make sense to you. All you will see is actions you dont like. You wont see the brilliance in those actions.

Trump is a master brander, one of the best alive and in the game of branding, money is the scoreboard....and winning that game, out of 6 billion people, whatever you think of him, he is a genius.

NateHodge
10-22-2012, 20:47
There are two Forbes listers who live by me. One is actually somewhat famous, the other, to anyone outside of here is a "who?"

I see him at the store looking for a good wine for dinner or out walking a dog. Yeah, he lives in a magnificent home, but it isnt even in a gated community. You can walk right up to the front door and try to sell him a vacuum (or whatever).

That is one of the wonderful things about being rich in the United States (and in some part of Europe) Few people would know you outside of your sphere and if you feel the need to be "big time"...drive up in a Lamborghini. (In other words, you can turn it on if you feel the need)

Most of the truly extravagant things the very wealthy do are done in private. No one know when you are on your plane blowing throught a Ferrari worth of gas in a long weekend. No one is paying attention to another 7 figure check for the upkeep on your yacht.

The point being here, most of the outward signs of wealth, the clothes, the watch, the car, are a drop in the bucket.....At the local starbucks it is impossible to tell the difference in wealth between a Surgeon and a Billionaire, if neither are known to you. The things they do in private...are magnitudes of order apart.



THIS.

I worked for a company a few years back where the owner was worth an estimated 3-400 million. Coming from a dirt poor family right here in my community. So poor that his parents had to give him away because they couldn't afford him anymore. Guy actually wore mismatched shoes to school, according to my dad.


He would sometimes show up on the wellsite I was working on, wearing faded coveralls, worn out redwings and a ballcap. Other people would ask who he was. Saw him in the same attire in town and spoke to him for a minute. Wife asked who he was and was shocked when I told her.

But you better believe he has a counties worth og hunting land in various states, a private jet that he takes where ever he wants to go, and lives big when he wants to. Other times, he's in a 4 year old F250 fooling like farmer john.

HollowHead
10-22-2012, 20:50
A good friend of mine (former college roommate) was vice president at Trump Enterprises (or whatever he was calling it at the time) in NY. No great stories I'm allowed to repeat (sorry), but apparently he walked around like king of the world, and treated virtually everyone accordingly.


Interesting. I worked for the New Jersey Generals from 1985-87 and knew Mr. Trump well enough to say that while he had his moments, he also had humility. He was very good to those who deserved it. HH

UtahIrishman
10-22-2012, 20:54
I dont have a clue if he has anything. my guess is, no he doenst.

But you need to understand, Trump is a brand. If you dont understand what branding is, then Donald Trump will never make sense to you. All you will see is actions you dont like. You wont see the brilliance in those actions.

Trump is a master brander, one of the best alive and in the game of branding, money is the scoreboard....and winning that game, out of 6 billion people, whatever you think of him, he is a genius.

I understand what branding is and yes he is very good at it. It's basically salesmanship of the first order.

I think what rankles me more than anything about a guy like Trump is not so much that he's an attention seeker but that people actually buy into his 'brand' to use your term.

It doesn't say much about the intelligence of people. Not disparaging you Rabbi, but those that see the Trump brand (or BS as I would call it) and think there is something real behind the mask or rather the hair, are rather foolish. :wavey:

And they are the ones that make Trump what he is.

devildog2067
10-22-2012, 21:13
Rabbi and devildog I don't disagree with your point of view very often, but your drawing a red herring named big money in front of the real point.

I don't really have an opinion of the guy, and I'm not really trying to make a point other than that most people (including me, I'm sure) don't really have a clue about what being rich is like.

UtahIrishman
10-22-2012, 21:21
I don't really have an opinion of the guy, and I'm not really trying to make a point other than that most people (including me, I'm sure) don't really have a clue about what being rich is like.

True...I've had a glimmer on occasion working for extremely wealthy people. But working for someone who's wealthy and being wealthy are two separate things.

It's odd, the wealthiest person I knew would cross the street to get five cents off on a cup of coffee, but wore a $10K watch.

HollowHead
10-22-2012, 21:27
It's odd, the wealthiest person I knew would cross the street to get five cents off on a cup of coffee, but wore a $10K watch.

On GlockTalk, a $10K watch is for the great unwashed. HH

UtahIrishman
10-22-2012, 21:31
On GlockTalk, a $10K watch is for the great unwashed. HH

:supergrin:

Not too many have castles though

GVFlyer
10-22-2012, 21:36
Trump over speaks, under-delivers.

HollowHead
10-22-2012, 21:46
Trump over speaks, under-delivers.

It's a formula that produces. HH

frizz
10-23-2012, 04:09
You missing my point doesnt change my point.

You have an opinion on the man. You express it as some great universal truth about how people should be judged. Which is pretty ludicrous itself, even if you are right but it is still a great irony.

Again, opinions are free. At the end of the day, that is all you have. While he goes about his Donald Trump life.
OK, see your point now. I didn't say you were wrong, did I?

Cut me some slack... You have also expressed an opinion, and I think that it is insightful. We are, relative to Trump, pissants. (Unless you have a few billion stashed away.) :supergrin:

Toyman
10-23-2012, 04:27
As much as I would like to see Trump bring out something good, I don't think that even having
a video of Obama stabbing a baby
would sway most Democrats, they would just reply "He must of had a good reason to do that! That baby was probably anti-obamacare!"

Psychman
10-23-2012, 04:42
This campaign does not need Trump spouting off at this late date. It can do no good and may do some harm.

SC Tiger
10-23-2012, 06:54
If it's so important, and could 'change the election', then why is he releasing the info on Twitter? I know the MSM has become a joke, but I still think going on GMA for instance would be a little better than Twitter. For all we know, he's got a bet with a buddy of his that he can or can't him X,000,000 Twitter followers by Thursday.

It worked in my case - I started following him on Twitter. I'm curious on what he has come up with. Probably nothing but we will see I guess.

ricklee4570
10-23-2012, 07:02
I am not a Trump fan, but I did appreciate how he put Rosie O'Donnell in her place. Most were too afraid to stand up to her (or so it seemed)

Maybe it has something to do with the ring that allegedly Obama wears with inscription proclaiming his allegance to the Muslim religion? The mainstream media ignored this bit of trivia.

One thing is for sure, a lot of people will be waiting to see what he comes out with.

frizz
10-23-2012, 07:06
I am not a Trump fan, but I did appreciate how he put Rosie O'Donnell in her place. Most were too afraid to stand up to her (or so it seemed)

Maybe it has something to do with the ring that allegedly Obama wears with inscription proclaiming his allegance to the Muslim religion? The mainstream media ignored this bit of trivia.

Maybe because it isn't true?

IvanVic
10-23-2012, 07:13
This campaign does not need Trump spouting off at this late date. It can do no good and may do some harm.

Nothing more needs to be said. Trump is a babbling media whore.


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GWSHARK
10-23-2012, 12:05
I still can't believe some jokers were actually thinking of voting for this clown. :rofl:

Sharkey
10-23-2012, 12:38
Trump = Geraldo Rivera

But white and with more money. He is the evil rich that illegal socialist has been talking about. :whistling:

JackMac
10-23-2012, 19:04
birth certificate has turned up for real.

Eurodriver
10-23-2012, 19:17
THIS.

I worked for a company a few years back where the owner was worth an estimated 3-400 million. Coming from a dirt poor family right here in my community. So poor that his parents had to give him away because they couldn't afford him anymore. Guy actually wore mismatched shoes to school, according to my dad.


He would sometimes show up on the wellsite I was working on, wearing faded coveralls, worn out redwings and a ballcap. Other people would ask who he was. Saw him in the same attire in town and spoke to him for a minute. Wife asked who he was and was shocked when I told her.

But you better believe he has a counties worth og hunting land in various states, a private jet that he takes where ever he wants to go, and lives big when he wants to. Other times, he's in a 4 year old F250 fooling like farmer john.

Just to add - I've also found people like this to be the most frugal people on earth. No, I'm not saying they're cheap or dishonest, but my ex wife's mother was like that. She was the only millionaire I knew who complained that her lawn company wanted to charge $5 more per month due to increasing gas prices.

Actually, complain is not the right word. Vehemently protested would be better.

joeface
10-23-2012, 19:40
DIvorce papers for the Prez and his wife (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2222070/Donald-Trump-reveal-divorce-papers-Michelle-Barack-Obama--claims-respected-financial-pundit.html)
Big deal they had problems in the past. They found more in the safe...

DanaT
10-23-2012, 19:45
DIvorce papers for the Prez and his wife (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2222070/Donald-Trump-reveal-divorce-papers-Michelle-Barack-Obama--claims-respected-financial-pundit.html)
Big deal they had problems in the past. They found more in the safe...

Maybe those divorce papers list his birthplace as Kenya????

Captain Ron
10-23-2012, 23:14
Maybe those divorce papers list his birthplace as Kenya???? That would be funny.:rofl:

ricklee4570
10-24-2012, 04:21
DIvorce papers for the Prez and his wife (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2222070/Donald-Trump-reveal-divorce-papers-Michelle-Barack-Obama--claims-respected-financial-pundit.html)
Big deal they had problems in the past. They found more in the safe...


What a let down that would be. What married couple hasnt had troubles in the past??

Bren
10-24-2012, 04:30
What a let down that would be. What married couple hasnt had troubles in the past??

If it's divorce papers and if it's the document, rather than the contents, that is the "bombshell." Depending on the state and date, divorce papers often include allegations of various types of wrongdoing by either party or both.

However, I can make divorce papers disappear with little effort, so I can't imagine something like that would still be around.

Lampshade
10-24-2012, 07:06
Maybe it has something to do with the ring that allegedly Obama wears with inscription proclaiming his allegance to the Muslim religion? The mainstream media ignored this bit of trivia.

They didn't report on my alleged psychic powers either.

What gives?

.264 magnum
10-24-2012, 07:14
Trump is somewhat of an idiot. Good at marketing, and definitely a megalomaniac. Power to him, it is a free country. A good friend of mine (former college roommate) was vice president at Trump Enterprises (or whatever he was calling it at the time) in NY. No great stories I'm allowed to repeat (sorry), but apparently he walked around like king of the world, and treated virtually everyone accordingly.

So sure, he's a good marketer, and sure, he's gotten lucky more times than he's been unlucky, and sure he's rich. But I personally don't think luck, and wealth and marketing make you any more intelligent than they do make you qualified to run a country.

I count him in the obnoxious dumbass ******* category of humans.

He is an arrogant ass for sure. Other than being born with a nest egg he is not lucky. Luck in the context you mean implies winning the lotto or a crazy uncle leaving you $500M.

certifiedfunds
10-24-2012, 07:17
THIS.

I worked for a company a few years back where the owner was worth an estimated 3-400 million. Coming from a dirt poor family right here in my community. So poor that his parents had to give him away because they couldn't afford him anymore. Guy actually wore mismatched shoes to school, according to my dad.


He would sometimes show up on the wellsite I was working on, wearing faded coveralls, worn out redwings and a ballcap. Other people would ask who he was. Saw him in the same attire in town and spoke to him for a minute. Wife asked who he was and was shocked when I told her.

But you better believe he has a counties worth og hunting land in various states, a private jet that he takes where ever he wants to go, and lives big when he wants to. Other times, he's in a 4 year old F250 fooling like farmer john.

The oilfield is funny that way.

HexHead
10-24-2012, 07:54
Maybe Trump has evidence, divorce papers or photos, that the rumors of 0bama being gay or at least bi-sexual, are true? That could lose him a lot of independent voters, especially in light of his striking down DADT and DOMA.

nursetim
10-24-2012, 08:00
No, if obummer was proved to be gay or even molesting goats, there'd be a groundswell of overwhelming support for him.

The only thing that would be helpful is damning proof of theft or homicide. All else will push more people over to his side. Not even video of him and his mooselimb brotherhood cronies giggling like school girls over the 9/11 attacks would help.

frank4570
10-24-2012, 08:12
DIvorce papers for the Prez and his wife (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2222070/Donald-Trump-reveal-divorce-papers-Michelle-Barack-Obama--claims-respected-financial-pundit.html)
Big deal they had problems in the past. They found more in the safe...

That would be a letdown.

As other people have said, trump over sells and under delivers. This would be on track with that.

.264 magnum
10-24-2012, 08:20
Most people couldnt tell you who someone like Donald Bren or Len BlavatniK are. Even fewer would ever have the slightest clue if they sat next to them at a burger joint.

Either one of them has a net worth more than probably the richest 20 celebrities in the world combined.

Hell, we all know who the "Waltons" are...would any of you have a clue who they were if you saw them in line at Starbucks?

There's a lady just down the street who is worth $12/13 billion. I didn't know who she was, as in I'd never heard her name, until the local paper ran a story about her. She is NEVER included in any of the richest people lists. Maybe now she will be.

kensb2
10-24-2012, 08:42
When is this info scheduled to make an appearance??

ETA: Nevermind, just saw that it's 12 noon (assuming EST).

Diesel McBadass
10-24-2012, 08:47
Its just going to be a weak birther argument, npthing to see here

hpracing007
10-24-2012, 08:49
Maybe Trump has evidence, divorce papers or photos, that the rumors of 0bama being gay or at least bi-sexual, are true? That could lose him a lot of independent voters, especially in light of his striking down DADT and DOMA.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bcB9KilQTdc

costanza187
10-24-2012, 09:24
Every time you vote Republican, Obama kills a kitten?

Carrys
10-24-2012, 09:33
Its just going to be a weak birther argument, npthing to see here


Proof?


Getting there on something he said in the past isn't proof, it's simply a guess.

aplcr0331
10-24-2012, 09:38
Obama dealt cocaine in college.

Divorce? Really? Trump is a great marketer and that must be what he is doing. "Almost" divorce papers does not make for a very good October surprise.

series1811
10-24-2012, 09:46
Obama dealt cocaine in college.



Like that would be a shocker. Obama already admitted he used cocaine in college, and even gave the first name of his dealer in one of his books. Hard hitting journalists looked the guy up and interviewed him (just kidding you know better :supergrin:).

I think just about every cocaine user I have ever interviewed (and I've interview a lot) have admitted that they sold it at times).

I can't imagine anything, that anybody could bring up, that would keep the people who still support Obama after four years of seeing him in (in)action, from continuing to support him.

Carrys
10-24-2012, 09:59
Obama dealt cocaine in college.



That won't disturb folks now a days.


Wish it would, but it won't.

People have no manners, no standards, and no measures to live by............they simply don't. They do as they please and take their chances. So they tend to like others who do the same, they see it as being cool or some such thing.

Like cool is all one needs these days.

Dennis in MA
10-24-2012, 10:02
Well? It's 12:02. No word from TheDonald Duck.

G36's Rule
10-24-2012, 10:05
The Donald will give $5,000,000 to charity if Obama releases all records.

Dennis in MA
10-24-2012, 10:05
From the Desk of Donald Trump: Major Announcement - YouTube


:rofl:

Really, Donny? REALLY? :upeyes: What a bombshell. Ugh.

diamondd2
10-24-2012, 10:06
Idiot Trump is probably going to come out and say Obama gets his vote.

PBCounty
10-24-2012, 10:11
What is it? These monsters wont let me have speakers at work.

Dennis in MA
10-24-2012, 10:14
He will give $5 mil to the charity of Obama's choice if Obama releases his college transcripts AND applications.

Newsflash! This just in. At the White House today. . . . nothing happened. :upeyes:

G36's Rule
10-24-2012, 10:15
What is it? These monsters wont let me have speakers at work.

Already posted in #93

PBCounty
10-24-2012, 10:15
I just heard Pacman die.

G36's Rule
10-24-2012, 10:16
:rofl:

hpracing007
10-24-2012, 10:19
......

Tiro Fijo
10-24-2012, 10:23
Educated guess:


Hillary thrown under the bus over Benghazi matter. Soooo, Obama's heretofore unreleased passport application is somehow "leaked" showing he is a Muslim. :whistling:

sappy13
10-24-2012, 10:26
Please tell me that video wasnt really his game changing announcement.

GTFord1
10-24-2012, 11:14
This is totally going to destroy Obama.

kensb2
10-24-2012, 11:21
Thanks for nothing, DT :upeyes:

If he was really serious about doing this, I think he should've made it a much larger number...say 25 M. People will look at this and go..meh...but if you throw out a larger number, then people might actually question why he didn't respond. Oh wait, no they wouldn't. Disregard.

frizz
10-24-2012, 11:38
Educated guess:


Hillary thrown under the bus over Benghazi matter. Soooo, Obama's heretofore unreleased passport application is somehow "leaked" showing he is a Muslim. :whistling:

Good guess! Except for the fact that passport questions don't include your religion.

frizz
10-24-2012, 11:41
I just heard Pacman die.
:rofl:

That same sound went through my brain. Also an image of impotence...

Psychman
10-24-2012, 12:09
President elect Romney needs to stay as far away from this guy as possible.

frizz
10-24-2012, 12:20
Maybe Trump has evidence, divorce papers or photos, that the rumors of 0bama being gay or at least bi-sexual, are true? That could lose him a lot of independent voters, especially in light of his striking down DADT and DOMA.

He struck down DOMA???? Jeez, I didn't know that he was also a federal judge. Isn't there a law against a President being a federal judge at the same time????

:upeyes:

IndianaMatt
10-24-2012, 12:21
President elect Romney needs to stay as far away from this guy as possible.

http://play.esea.net/global/media_preview.php?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.sc2mapster.com%2Fmedia%2Favatars%2F4%2F429%2F300px-718smiley.svg.png

Altaris
10-24-2012, 12:23
If I didn't already know he was a nut, I would have responded to Trump with.....

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a130/gserhar/Not_sure_if_serious.jpg

tslex
10-24-2012, 12:23
Sean Penn (or similar) announces he will pay $5MM to charity of Romney's choice if Romney releases all tax returns, in 5. . . 4. . . . 3 . . . 2 . . . .


Lord but Trump is an ass. Did he REALLY need the attention THAT badly right now?

frank4570
10-24-2012, 12:54
Kind of embarrassing.

allen13
10-24-2012, 13:05
I want to know what Rosie O'donnell thinks.

frizz
10-24-2012, 13:10
I want to know what Rosie O'donnell thinks.

A meatball fell down a manhole, and she's busy trying to retrieve it.

sappy13
10-24-2012, 14:04
I was listening to Sean Hannity earlier and he was praising Trump as this is such a great thing. Dont get me wrong, its very generous of him to give that money away for some records, but I was expecting something more. Hannitys rant on Trump and this stunt was just annoying

Steve0853
10-24-2012, 14:13
Obama dealt cocaine in college.

This would hardly be an embarrassment to the Obama Hypnotized brigade. In fact, they would probably tout it as evidence that he DID indeed have small business experience.

SC Tiger
10-24-2012, 14:19
A meatball fell down a manhole, and she's busy trying to retrieve it.

Better get a jackhammer, 'cause that ##### ain't fitting down any manhole I've ever seen.

Chuck TX
10-24-2012, 14:21
Seriously?

Get a rope.

Paul53
10-24-2012, 14:53
Trump lies, his feet stink, and he don't love Jesus! This whole thing isn't even about Obama in any way. The whole thing was about Trump.






Plus, he's got a muskrat on his head.

frizz
10-24-2012, 15:16
Better get a jackhammer, 'cause that ##### ain't fitting down any manhole I've ever seen.
There's an update on this...

She is stuck in the hole, but she has recovered and eaten the meatball.

To restate, she is stuck in the hole, but the meatball is in her stomach.

She is in good spirits, and has been singing TV theme songs such as "Happy Days" to keep her mind off of her situation while rescue teams are trying to decide how to extricate her.

mac66
10-24-2012, 15:36
Trump lies, his feet stink, and he don't love Jesus!






Plus, he's got a muskrat on his head.

But he's rich and that's all that matters.:supergrin:

HollowHead
10-24-2012, 16:29
Educated guess:


Hillary thrown under the bus over Benghazi matter. Soooo, Obama's heretofore unreleased passport application is somehow "leaked" showing he is a Muslim. :whistling:

If the Clinton Machine had even the slightest proof that Obama was inelegible to run for POTUS against Hillary, this would have been public in '08. Remember, this is the couple who was supposed to have had Vince Foster murdered. HH

costanza187
10-24-2012, 18:09
I just heard Pacman die.

:rofl::rofl:

Cclass
10-24-2012, 18:34
I just heard Pacman die.


:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

ricklee4570
10-25-2012, 05:01
What a letdown!

But in all reality, why wont Obama release his college records just like Bush, Gore, Clinton, and everyone else did.

Of course the rumor is that he was on a foreign scholorship stating he was born in Kenya. If it is not true, why wouldnt he release it?

Here is how I see it. If he were to release it, and he has nothing to hide, then he would not only make Trump look silly, it would also boost him in the polls. He would look like the transparent President he always claims he is. Also, it would be nice to give 5 million to a worthy charity, further making him look like a hero. Just a thought.

series1811
10-25-2012, 07:41
What a letdown!

But in all reality, why wont Obama release his college records just like Bush, Gore, Clinton, and everyone else did.

Of course the rumor is that he was on a foreign scholorship stating he was born in Kenya. If it is not true, why wouldnt he release it?

Here is how I see it. If he were to release it, and he has nothing to hide, then he would not only make Trump look silly, it would also boost him in the polls. He would look like the transparent President he always claims he is. Also, it would be nice to give 5 million to a worthy charity, further making him look like a hero. Just a thought.

Exactly right. All Obama has to do to make Trump look like a fool, and take his money, is to release something that most people release without a second's thought.

Anybody here think Obama will do that?

I don't. There's a reason he's not releasing them. And, I think the collective wisdom is that he committed some kind of fraud to either get in, or get tuition assistance, and that fraud is that he claimed to be a Kenyan (unintentionally starting the entire "birther" issue.

Think about it. Why did anybody even suggest Kenya as a birthplace, years before the revelation that Obama's literary agent had described him as Kenyan in 1991. There are a lot of countries in the world. How is it that every time someone has mistakenly stated where Obama was born, it is always Kenya?

There is only one logical reason. Obama has told people in the past he was born in Kenya, whether he really was or not (and, I don't think he was born there).

Altaris
10-25-2012, 09:25
Think about it. Why did anybody even suggest Kenya as a birthplace, years before the revelation that Obama's literary agent had described him as Kenyan in 1991. There are a lot of countries in the world. How is it that every time someone has mistakenly stated where Obama was born, it is always Kenya?

There is only one logical reason. Obama has told people in the past he was born in Kenya, whether he really was or not (and, I don't think he was born there).


And here Obama is, on Another talk show, making fun of Trump, and making fun of the Kenya talk...

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/obama-leno-trump-kenya-video-130707760--election.html

Ian Moone
10-25-2012, 11:51
Ya know ...I'm no fan of the empty suit in the empty chair, BUT Trump is a troll. The #1 rule with trolls ...DON'T FEED THEM!! I can't see the Prez even considering the offering. I surprised he's even given it air time.

frizz
10-25-2012, 12:46
What a letdown!

But in all reality, why wont Obama release his college records just like Bush, Gore, Clinton, and everyone else did.

Did they?

Mayhem like Me
10-25-2012, 13:32
Most people couldnt tell you who someone like Donald Bren or Len BlavatniK are. Even fewer would ever have the slightest clue if they sat next to them at a burger joint.

Either one of them has a net worth more than probably the richest 20 celebrities in the world combined.

Hell, we all know who the "Waltons" are...would any of you have a clue who they were if you saw them in line at Starbucks?

I have one of these Billionares in my area, know him well and sat on a board of directors of a non profit with him, he has the biggest yacht on the lake and if you see him you would not make him for uber wealthy.

He has foundations to give away his charitible contributions, which are extensive.

He has some very nice rides, and was most impressed years ago when he was gifted a Honda Ridgeline....Yup he loves it and drives it more than his exotics, he understands value and appreciates well designed products.

Rabbi as he ussually does hit this one on the head,

nursetim
10-25-2012, 13:46
He'll just have is photoshoppers fix up a few transcripts and viola, 5 million to his favorite charity, himself. I wouldn't be a bit surprised if he actually has himself registered as a charity.

SevenSixtyTwo
10-25-2012, 15:23
For Trump to pin offering 5 mil to a charity only if O releases personal information says more about what a chump Trump is than Obama.

PBCounty
10-25-2012, 16:26
As much as I find Obama to be a dishonest, arrogant, non-leader...I would disagree with him following along here. I don't like the idea of setting the tone that a POTUS can / should be swayed by individual citizens setting an ultimatum.

certifiedfunds
10-25-2012, 17:08
For Trump to pin offering 5 mil to a charity only if O releases personal information says more about what a chump Trump is than Obama.

Why is that?

certifiedfunds
10-25-2012, 17:12
Most people couldnt tell you who someone like Donald Bren or Len BlavatniK are. Even fewer would ever have the slightest clue if they sat next to them at a burger joint.

Either one of them has a net worth more than probably the richest 20 celebrities in the world combined.

Hell, we all know who the "Waltons" are...would any of you have a clue who they were if you saw them in line at Starbucks?

I've got a snapshot from a BBQ with 4 of us in a photo with one of the wealthiest men in Louisiana. Perhaps THE wealthiest. Considering the oil interests here that's saying something. A billionaire who's name you won't find on any Forbes list. I'm tempted to post it here and ask the GT braintrust to pick out the billionaire. Betcha no one could.

SevenSixtyTwo
10-25-2012, 17:56
Why is that?

Drowning man in the ocean needs a life preserver until help arrives. I have thousands of them at my disposal. I'll toss one down to him IF Obama releases personal information that would make himself look bad. Same concept.

certifiedfunds
10-25-2012, 17:58
Drowning man in the ocean needs a life preserver until help arrives. I have thousands of them at my disposal. I'll toss one down to him IF Obama releases personal information that would make himself look bad. Same concept.

How does that make trump a chump?


Your analysis makes no sense.

SevenSixtyTwo
10-25-2012, 18:04
How does that make trump a chump?


Your analysis makes no sense.

I made it as simple as I possibly could. Sorry.

Altaris
10-25-2012, 18:11
I've got a snapshot from a BBQ with 4 of us in a photo with one of the wealthiest men in Louisiana. Perhaps THE wealthiest. Considering the oil interests here that's saying something. A billionaire who's name you won't find on any Forbes list. I'm tempted to post it here and ask the GT braintrust to pick out the billionaire. Betcha no one could.

Stuff like this is one of the first things my CEO at the bank I worked for told me when I started. Never judge a book by its cover. I of course knew that already, but it becomes very apparent when you can actually see how much money that person has.
We had one guy that was always coming in with really nice suits, shined shoes, nice watches, very well groomed etc... He was always overdraft on his account. Never had any money and would always want us to throw him a bone.

On the opposite end, this one guy came in my office and looked like he just got done fishing. Nasty torn shorts, old shoes, and a shirt full of holes. He had many accounts, with Very large numbers in all of them. We got along really well, so he told me that he actually purposely dresses like a bum, just to see how peoples real personalities are. He knows how they will treat him if they know he has money, so he tests it out to see how they treat him if they think he doesn't.

SevenSixtyTwo
10-25-2012, 18:12
How does that make trump a chump?


Your analysis makes no sense.

His goal is to make Obama look bad. All he's accomplishing is making himself look foolish. He would've been far more effective in simply pressuring Obama publicly to fess up. Why cheapen the concept of charitable organizations to the level of a juvenile game of truth or dare. He has it to give but withholds depending on what Obama does? That's pretty low.

Narkcop
10-25-2012, 18:16
I think it's a GREAT idea and some people will have to wonder why he doesn't release his passport and college records. If this was a Republican the fact he won't release those records would have already destroyed his political future. I am positive that either he wasn't born in the USA or that he was and lied on his college admissions.

SevenSixtyTwo
10-25-2012, 18:24
I think it's a GREAT idea and some people will have to wonder why he doesn't release his passport and college records. If this was a Republican the fact he won't release those records would have already destroyed his political future. I am positive that either he wasn't born in the USA or that he was and lied on his college admissions.

My guess is the latter but we may never know. However, Trump, the Jerry Springer of Wall Street, could have easily used the same media O benefits from to pressure him into submission. Then selflessly give that spare $5m laying around cluttering up the floor to a worthy cause of his own choice.

FLIPPER 348
10-25-2012, 18:35
For Trump to pin offering 5 mil to a charity only if O releases personal information says more about what a chump Trump is than Obama.


True


It's somewhat pathetic that this buffoon is so important to the Repubs.

certifiedfunds
10-25-2012, 18:49
I made it as simple as I possibly could. Sorry.

So your post was nonsense. Got it.

certifiedfunds
10-25-2012, 18:51
True


It's somewhat pathetic that this buffoon is so important to the Repubs.

Perhaps you can explain it then without bemoaning the sinking of the good ship Obama.

certifiedfunds
10-25-2012, 18:54
His goal is to make Obama look bad. All he's accomplishing is making himself look foolish. He would've been far more effective in simply pressuring Obama publicly to fess up. Why cheapen the concept of charitable organizations to the level of a juvenile game of truth or dare. He has it to give but withholds depending on what Obama does? That's pretty low.

You still haven't explained how trump looks foolish. The money is being offered by trump. Obama is refusing to give it to charity.

certifiedfunds
10-25-2012, 18:57
Obama would rather deny poor kids in Chicago than release information that virtually every employee in America releases.

certifiedfunds
10-25-2012, 18:58
I think it's a GREAT idea and some people will have to wonder why he doesn't release his passport and college records. If this was a Republican the fact he won't release those records would have already destroyed his political future. I am positive that either he wasn't born in the USA or that he was and lied on his college admissions.

He attended as a foreign student. That's why.

SevenSixtyTwo
10-25-2012, 19:08
Your analysis makes no sense.

It's an analogy, not an analysis. No wonder you don't get it.:rofl:

SevenSixtyTwo
10-25-2012, 19:11
You still haven't explained how trump looks foolish. The money is being offered by trump. Obama is refusing to give it to charity.

Trump is the one putting a stipulation on it. Obama's refusal to give out personal information shouldn't have any bearing on Trump's charitable contributions.

SevenSixtyTwo
10-25-2012, 19:15
Obama would rather deny poor kids in Chicago than release information that virtually every employee in America releases.

Obama's not the one holding the check. Trump is. Trump is playing games with those poor kids' lives if you want to put it that way. What makes you so sure poor kids in Chicago would be O's choice of charity. He might prefer cancer research or something more worthwhile than poor kids in Chicago.

FLIPPER 348
10-25-2012, 19:23
Perhaps you can explain it then without bemoaning the sinking of the good ship Obama.




Explain what???


....that DT is a media-whore looking (always) for publicity?? The President is correct to ignore him as a troll.

Magnus2131
10-25-2012, 19:29
Obama's not the one holding the check. Trump is. Trump is playing games with those poor kids' lives if you want to put it that way. What makes you so sure poor kids in Chicago would be O's choice of charity. He might prefer cancer research or something more worthwhile than poor kids in Chicago.
Now those poor kids lives are in the hands of Obama.:upeyes:

certifiedfunds
10-25-2012, 19:44
Trump is the one putting a stipulation on it. Obama's refusal to give out personal information shouldn't have any bearing on Trump's charitable contributions.

:rofl: Trump's willing to hand out $5-freaking-million-dollars to help the needy and obama won't make a photocopy?

And you blame Trump. :rofl:

Johnspark
10-25-2012, 19:47
It's an analogy, not an analysis. No wonder you don't get it.:rofl:

No, he got it. We all got it. You are not getting it.

There is something to hide, or there isn't. Five million reasons to not hide a simple explanation.


Get it?

:wavey:

SevenSixtyTwo
10-25-2012, 19:51
:rofl: Trump's willing to hand out $5-freaking-million-dollars to help the needy and obama won't make a photocopy?

And you blame Trump. :rofl:

Yes. If Trump wants to donate $5m to charity, no one's keeping him from doing it.

certifiedfunds
10-25-2012, 19:51
Obama's not the one holding the check. Trump is. Trump is playing games with those poor kids' lives if you want to put it that way. What makes you so sure poor kids in Chicago would be O's choice of charity. He might prefer cancer research or something more worthwhile than poor kids in Chicago.

So Obama hates cancer patients now.

Trump has put the deal on the table. The check is sitting there. All Obama has to do is pick it up. He isn't even willing to do that to help a charity. Yet he'll denigrate people like trump as not paying their fair share to help the poor. Here's he's handing Obama a check for $5,000,000 and all Obama has to do is make a photocopy. In fact, he doesn't even have to do it. He could ask Bill Ayers to do it. Maybe they don't have photocopy machines in the West Wing?

As for the personal information, here's how that works:

If in some mythical world YOU had an education and applied for a job, you would be required to submit to a background check, the most basic of which would be to release your college transcripts to your potential employer. It's basic stuff. All it shows is show classes taken, grades received, degrees awarded and perhaps any honors.

SevenSixtyTwo
10-25-2012, 19:52
No, he got it. We all got it. You are not getting it.

There is something to hide, or there isn't. Five million reasons to not hide a simple explanation.


Get it?

:wavey:

No, I get it. Obama needs to come clean. Has nothing to do with Trump's charitable contributions.

certifiedfunds
10-25-2012, 19:53
Yes. If Trump wants to donate $5m to charity, no one's keeping him from doing it.

He's giving it to Obama to give. The ball is in his court.

Obama clearly hates poor black kids and cancer patients.

SevenSixtyTwo
10-25-2012, 19:58
So Obama hates cancer patients now.

Trump has put the deal on the table. The check is sitting there. All Obama has to do is pick it up. He isn't even willing to do that to help a charity. Yet he'll denigrate people like trump as not paying their fair share to help the poor. Here's he's handing Obama a check for $5,000,000 and all Obama has to do is make a photocopy. In fact, he doesn't even have to do it. He could ask Bill Ayers to do it. Maybe they don't have photocopy machines in the West Wing?

As for the personal information, here's how that works:

If in some mythical world YOU had an education and applied for a job, you would be required to submit to a background check, the most basic of which would be to release your college transcripts to your potential employer. It's basic stuff. All it shows is show classes taken, grades received, degrees awarded and perhaps any honors.

How do you know O hates cancer patients?

If Trump is genuine about making a $5m charitable contribution, he should make one to the charity of his choosing.

In the real world, my employer has a record of my personal information including my academic record. Trump did not offer Obama a job.

certifiedfunds
10-25-2012, 19:59
Explain what???


....that DT is a media-whore looking (always) for publicity?? The President is correct to ignore him as a troll.

Your President isn't a media-whore? :rofl:

It's basic stuff. If Obama was a man he would release them and match Trump's money with $5,000,000 of his own money.

SevenSixtyTwo
10-25-2012, 19:59
He's giving it to Obama to give. The ball is in his court.

Obama clearly hates poor black kids and cancer patients.

If it's a charitable contribution, why doesn't he give it to a charitable organization?

SevenSixtyTwo
10-25-2012, 20:03
Your President isn't a media-whore? :rofl:

It's basic stuff. If Obama was a man he would release them and match Trump's money with $5,000,000 of his own money.

Hate to break it to you. He's our President. They're all media whores.

Obama's reluctance to release his records shouldn't have anything to do with Trump's decision to give to charity or not.

certifiedfunds
10-25-2012, 20:07
How do you know O hates cancer patients?



Cancer patients, poor black kids, orphans......he must hate them all. Why else wouldn't he simply make a photocopy to get trump's $5MM to him? He clearly wants cancer patients to die.

If Trump is genuine about making a $5m charitable contribution, he should make one to the charity of his choosing.



Do you think Trump doesn't already give millions per year to charity? This is an extra $5MM that he's offering to give at Obama's discretion.

In the real world, my employer has a record of my personal information including my academic record. Trump did not offer Obama a job.

We know he's not offering him a job. No one said he's offering him a job. Obama's never had a real job. Who the hell would offer him a job?

Your employer has a copy of your academic record? When highest year of education achieved ends in "-th grade" it really isn't called an "academic record". I guess technically it is but no one would refer to it as such. They'd simply ask for a photocopy of your high school diploma.

FLIPPER 348
10-25-2012, 20:07
this thread is getting as stupid as Hannity's radio show

certifiedfunds
10-25-2012, 20:07
If it's a charitable contribution, why doesn't he give it to a charitable organization?

It isn't a charitable donation yet. He's offering to make one at Obama's directive.

JuneyBooney
10-26-2012, 02:58
The libtards don't care if Obama was born in Kenya. They don't care that his father was already married before he met Obama's mom. But Trump probably knows all that stuff because of the money he has access to.

ricklee4570
10-26-2012, 05:25
Yet the liberals scream that Romney wont release 25 years of his tax returns.

Romney should come out and say he will release all his tax returns if Obama releases his college papers.

Better yet, Since Obama and his supporters claim that Obama is the most transparent President ever, why not prove it. He sure does not seem at all transparent when he hides so much about his past.

series1811
10-26-2012, 06:48
Bombastic as it was as a technique, Trump did accomplish what he set out to do: Prove that whatever Obama is hiding in those records, he wants it to remain hidden so badly that he won't even release them for $5,000,000 to help the poor (or whoever he picked).

Not that it matters. Even his supporters know by now that Obama is hiding things from his background. They just don't care.

SevenSixtyTwo
10-26-2012, 11:08
Yet the liberals scream that Romney wont release 25 years of his tax returns.

Romney should come out and say he will release all his tax returns if Obama releases his college papers.

Better yet, Since Obama and his supporters claim that Obama is the most transparent President ever, why not prove it. He sure does not seem at all transparent when he hides so much about his past.

This would be the logical, reasonable way to approach the request. Why not sue him for proof of eligibility for the position of POTUS.

mhambi
10-26-2012, 12:39
While I wish BigO would release this information...Colbert's response made me laugh.

ilgunguygt
10-26-2012, 13:02
this thread is getting as stupid as Hannity's radio show
And yet the poor liberal flipper cant walk away. He has to past how stupid it is. I'm guessing that this is just to show how much smarter you are than all of us ignorant, redneck, 'publicans?:rofl:

certifiedfunds
10-26-2012, 13:38
This would be the logical, reasonable way to approach the request. Why not sue him for proof of eligibility for the position of POTUS.

I guess you've never heard of executive privilege

Sharkey
10-26-2012, 13:47
I guess you've never heard of executive privilege

Or the "legitimate" reasons in which exec privilege can be claimed.....

IvanVic
10-26-2012, 14:12
Why else wouldn't he simply make a photocopy to get trump's $5MM to him?

You're even more gullible than I thought. Show me one birther that changed their tune after the BC was released? Better yet, show me one conspiracy theorist, liberal or conservative, that has ever changed their tune once the evidence that crave is given to them.

The fact that this thread was even started in the first place is proof that Trump has accomplished his mission. If it were not for glock talk, I would have never even heard about this because O'Reilly didn't waste any time on it, and that's about the only program I watch on a daily basis. The only reporters giving this any press are left wing reporters hoping to associate Trump's idiocy with Romney, and conspiracy theorist loons.

series1811
10-26-2012, 14:18
You're even more gullible than I thought. Show me one birther that changed their tune after the BC was released? Better yet, show me one conspiracy theorist, liberal or conservative, that has ever changed their tune once the evidence that crave is given to them.

The fact that this thread was even started in the first place is proof that Trump has accomplished his mission. If it were not for glock talk, I would have never even heard about this because O'Reilly didn't waste any time on it, and that's about the only program I watch on a daily basis. The only reporters giving this any press are left wing reporters hoping to associate Trump's idiocy with Romney, and conspiracy theorist loons.

Here's what I do know about Obama that the media has ignored. There is no way in hell Obama could pass an SSBI and be granted a security clearance, just because of the things he has admitted to, either in writing or in speeches.

Not to mention his SF-86 would not be accepted in the first placed withoutall of the documents he has refused to show, that are not a big deal to the media.

Tell me I'm wrong.

IvanVic
10-26-2012, 14:25
just because of the things he has admitted to

I can't tell you if you're right or wrong because I don't know what you're referring to here.

series1811
10-26-2012, 14:38
I can't tell you if you're right or wrong because I don't know what you're referring to here.

1. Non-experimental use of cocaine (in his book).
2. Association with persons advocating the violent overthrow of the United States (Ayers).

Not too mention, his selective service number, and inconsistent stories of travel to places like Pakistan, would be red flags to me when conducting an SSBI.


And, you know those records Trump mentioned that seem so crazy. You have to attach those to your SF-86. All four of the people who died in Benghazi had been through SSBIs and had submitted SF-86s. Pretty much everyone who works for Obama past Biden has to pass one.

certifiedfunds
10-26-2012, 14:51
You're even more gullible than I thought. Show me one birther that changed their tune after the BC was released? Better yet, show me one conspiracy theorist, liberal or conservative, that has ever changed their tune once the evidence that crave is given to them.

The fact that this thread was even started in the first place is proof that Trump has accomplished his mission. If it were not for glock talk, I would have never even heard about this because O'Reilly didn't waste any time on it, and that's about the only program I watch on a daily basis. The only reporters giving this any press are left wing reporters hoping to associate Trump's idiocy with Romney, and conspiracy theorist loons.

So cough em up. Make a photocopy. Call Columbia and Harvard and tell them to fax em over.

Do it. Then be a real man and match trump's donation with your own money. Win, why don't he?

IvanVic
10-26-2012, 15:06
1. Non-experimental use of cocaine (in his book).


1) I have never read his book, so I can't attest to how the drug use is described
2) Who defines what is experimental and what isn't? Is there an actual legal definition in relation to the SSBI clearance?
3) Does the past use of drugs in any manner bar one from obtaining SSBI clearance?


2. Association with persons advocating the violent overthrow of the United States (Ayers).


Well, that's far above my pay grade, and I'm assuming yours too, in terms of determining what level of association would be needed to disqualify.

What exactly are you suggesting? That all presidents must obtain SSBI before winning an election, and Obama did this based on some sort of conspiracy to get him passed?

IvanVic
10-26-2012, 15:08
So cough em up. Make a photocopy. Call Columbia and Harvard and tell them to fax em over.


Yes, because this would establish such a positive precedent in America, media figures holding a carrot stick in front of charities to force presidents to give into their demands. I'm sure you'd be saying the same thing if it were MSNBC offering to donate 5mm to charity if Romney did X, Y and Z, right?

SevenSixtyTwo
10-26-2012, 15:09
I guess you've never heard of executive privilege

I guess you missed it when the Republicans spent over $100m of taxpayers' money to get Clinton to admit he got a bj. How petty can it get. I'm sure without doubt, if there were any validity to Trump's chump charge at all, Obama would have been brought to the carpet long before now. Romney himself would be all over it. He's smart enough to not make himself look foolish. Republicans in Congress wouldn't pass up such a simple opportunity. Are you really that dense that you can't see that?

series1811
10-26-2012, 15:45
1) I have never read his book, so I can't attest to how the drug use is described
2) Who defines what is experimental and what isn't? Is there an actual legal definition in relation to the SSBI clearance?
3) Does the past use of drugs in any manner bar one from obtaining SSBI clearance?



Well, that's far above my pay grade, and I'm assuming yours too, in terms of determining what level of association would be needed to disqualify.

What exactly are you suggesting? That all presidents must obtain SSBI before winning an election, and Obama did this based on some sort of conspiracy to get him passed?

No, my point, was that just because the media ignores something, does not mean it is not important. If it makes you feel better, it's not just Obama, it's his supporters, too.

He appointed three USAO's in the district I live in. They do have to pass SSBI's and all three didn't and couldn't take the job. Obama lost interest at that point and left the job unfilled for three years, with an acting head.

glockski
10-26-2012, 16:29
Yet the liberals scream that Romney wont release 25 years of his tax returns.

Romney should come out and say he will release all his tax returns if Obama releases his college papers.

Better yet, Since Obama and his supporters claim that Obama is the most transparent President ever, why not prove it. He sure does not seem at all transparent when he hides so much about his past.
Best post yet:yourock:

certifiedfunds
10-26-2012, 16:37
Yes, because this would establish such a positive precedent in America, media figures holding a carrot stick in front of charities to force presidents to give into their demands. I'm sure you'd be saying the same thing if it were MSNBC offering to donate 5mm to charity if Romney did X, Y and Z, right?

To get him to do a fundamental thing like release his college transcripts? Yeah, I'd challenge Romney on that too.

Besides, what a great opportunity to turn this into a positive thing. $10MM for charity and Obama looks like the bigger man (something that is a real challenge for him being so effeminate).



Keep in mind, Obama is the cause of this.

Glockworks
10-26-2012, 16:41
Unfortunately, the truth just doesn't matter to the brain dead American Idol voter base in this country.

Trump could reveal a photograpgh of Obama being birthed by Eva Braun, and nobody would care. And the MSM would never report it.
That is 100% a correct post if there ever was one, thank you.

certifiedfunds
10-26-2012, 16:48
I guess you missed it when the Republicans spent over $100m of taxpayers' money to get Clinton to admit he got a bj.

Are you really that ignorant or do you just put on the stupid act for us all here on GT? Clinton was impeached for lying under oath. What do that have to do with a private citizen suing the President of the United States for his college transcripts.

How petty can it get. I'm sure without doubt, if there were any validity to Trump's chump charge at all, Obama would have been brought to the carpet long before now. Romney himself would be all over it. He's smart enough to not make himself look foolish. Republicans in Congress wouldn't pass up such a simple opportunity. Are you really that dense that you can't see that?

Oh, of course. So then there is nothing for him to hide and he should just make the simple photocopy and release them, right? $5 large to his favorite charity and Trump looks like a buffoon. Its a win, win, right?

Right?

SevenSixtyTwo
10-26-2012, 16:51
I guess you really are that dense.

certifiedfunds
10-26-2012, 17:01
I guess you really are that dense.

You know what I think? I think you're a ruse.

I think that 762 is an act. I think you're really an educated, intelligent man who can articulate his viewpoint with rational, well-reasoned thoughts.

But, you come here and put on this act to make folks think you ate too many paint chips as a child...like maybe mama drank too much with you in the womb....or like maybe you come from a great long lineage of imbeciles. I think you do this because you enjoy it. I don't blame you. It's fun to jerk folks chains sometimes.

Touche'. Well done.

SevenSixtyTwo
10-26-2012, 17:12
What do that have to do with a private citizen suing the President of the United States for his college transcripts.


And you're really a poor black child in Chicago who's ebonics slips through every now and then.:rofl:

certifiedfunds
10-26-2012, 17:26
And you're really a poor black child in Chicago who's ebonics slips through every now and then.:rofl:

just dumbing it down for ya. Glad to know it worked.

HollowHead
10-26-2012, 18:23
I'll gladly donate $50 to charity to the first GTer who produces a photograph of his wife in the nude. Those who don't obviously hate poor people. HH

certifiedfunds
10-26-2012, 18:55
I'll gladly donate $50 to charity to the first GTer who produces a photograph of his wife in the nude. Those who don't obviously hate poor people. HH

$50?

Hang on

mac66
10-26-2012, 19:35
Bear with me on this...

If the same $5,000,000 offer was made to a republican president, the media and the democraptic leadership would be howling about what a greedy b'stard he is and that he is taking food out of little babies' mouths by not releasing his papers. Jesse Jackoff would be on TV every night claiming the president was a racist and that he had a duty to the poor little black babies to give them that $5 million.

Then Obama would tell about how he met and talked to a little girl at a memorial (cool story bro) who told him what a heartless b'stard the republican was. Because if her mom had gotten some of that money, she would have had an abortion with it and that little girl wouldn't have to put up with being poor which is of course, all those rich white men's fault anyway.

Well, that's kind of what I think would happen. :whistling::supergrin:

Brian Lee
10-26-2012, 20:24
Donald is a blow hard and a goof ball who could probably accomplish his true objective a whole lot easier by simply holding up a sign that says "Look at me".

Somebody needs to just pull out his pud and pee on Donald's shoes...

And I hate Obama's guts too.

FLIPPER 348
10-27-2012, 09:31
And yet the poor liberal flipper cant walk away. He has to past how stupid it is. I'm guessing that this is just to show how much smarter you are than all of us ignorant, redneck, 'publicans?:rofl:


You guess correct!!



BTW- I'm not poor or a Liberal

Paul53
10-27-2012, 12:32
But he's rich and that's all that matters.:supergrin:

You are so right on so many levels my friend! Money is all that matters in America, sadly. Debates about many topics are just camouflage for talk of who gets the money.

IQof1
10-27-2012, 18:40
No, he got it. We all got it. You are not getting it.

There is something to hide, or there isn't. Five million reasons to not hide a simple explanation.


Get it?

:wavey:


amazing how the left thought it was soooo important for presidential candidates, clinton, bush, kerry, gore etc to relase their college transcripts and then go on the warpath about the grades on those transcripts.

yet, here we have Bobo the Clown in office for 4 miserable years and not one peep about college transcripts!

now, its all about tax returns! i am still waiting to hear valid reasons as to why Bobo's sec. of treasury, Tim Geitner, was delinquent in his taxes. i cant exactly remmmber the others but i know there were at least 2 or 3 more with the same issues...

i also find it funny how a liberal actor can make 20 million PER FILM and thats OK. yet a CEO, who has educated himself and then slogged his way to the top of his game makes 8 million a year and he is evil....

SevenSixtyTwo
10-28-2012, 11:06
amazing how the left thought it was soooo important for presidential candidates, clinton, bush, kerry, gore etc to relase their college transcripts and then go on the warpath about the grades on those transcripts.

yet, here we have Bobo the Clown in office for 4 miserable years and not one peep about college transcripts!

now, its all about tax returns! i am still waiting to hear valid reasons as to why Bobo's sec. of treasury, Tim Geitner, was delinquent in his taxes. i cant exactly remmmber the others but i know there were at least 2 or 3 more with the same issues...

i also find it funny how a liberal actor can make 20 million PER FILM and thats OK. yet a CEO, who has educated himself and then slogged his way to the top of his game makes 8 million a year and he is evil....

The CEO should have simply made the choice to be an actor! Life's all about choices. Life is what we make it.:supergrin:

Comedian
10-28-2012, 12:01
Well Trump really rocked the Obama campaign with that "bombshell". They may never recover from Trumps evil genius! :yawn:

RayB
10-28-2012, 12:38
No further bombshells would be needed if journalism were still alive and the MSM wasn't state-owned. :patriot:

There are enough actual goods on Obama to bury his chances for reelection, if the media would do its job and our somnambulant public would wake up! :yawn:

--Ray

runcible68
11-04-2012, 01:04
When DT doesn't like someone he always calls them a "loser" or that they're a "failure."

DT had jumped the shark and is a "failed" human being. KMA.

series1811
11-04-2012, 06:02
Well Trump really rocked the Obama campaign with that "bombshell". They may never recover from Trumps evil genius! :yawn:

The problem was, Trump only highlighted something that everybody already knows. That Obama has something in his college and travel records that he really wants to keep hidden.

Not exactly a news flash to anybody, Republican, Democrat, or independent.

nursetim
11-04-2012, 10:29
The national enquirer has picked it up along with allegations of obummer dealing drugs in college. Now their track record for accuracy is surprisingly good. But they still have a horrible reputation, so it gets readily dismissed. I bet they feel like Cassandra.