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Acujeff
10-23-2012, 23:05
This is the conundrum for the black community. As they become a more loyal to, but smaller share of, the Democrat coalition, attention to their community will continue to be a smaller portion of the party’s priorities.

Despite their immense loyalty and “victim” status in the party, unless a sizeable portion of black voters becomes Independent or Republican, the Democrats will have no need to work for their vote.

Black voters have a Democrat problem, being too entrenched in one party allows them to be ignored and abused, because Republicans feel they cannot work for their vote and Democrats know they cannot lose their vote.

Full story at:
http://www.humanevents.com/2012/10/21/black-voters-democrat-problems/

hogship
10-24-2012, 03:52
Take heart, America........

Our American Black citizens are probably 1% of the number of the world Muslim population......but, they have 1000 times the number of those speaking out against their own ill-conceived racial identity ideals.

I hope I will see the day, those American Blacks who are speaking out, manage to influence their own destiny.

ONLY they can alter their social course. We can only support those who are making the effort to better the Black condition. After all, they ARE Americans, and because they are Americans, they have the tools to do what needs to be done.

ooc

gwalchmai
10-24-2012, 05:39
As long as blacks vote as a block, and act as a block, they invite the wildly numerically superior "non-black" segment of our society to do the same. The average voter has no personal observation of the racial discrimination Black America, Inc. claims they are victims of, so the effectiveness of the victimhood strategy will diminish.

PaulMason
10-24-2012, 07:02
Black voters aren't a political force because the overwhelmingly vote Dems. The Dems don't have to do anything to keep them and the Reps can't do anything to get them. The Black voters will become even less important as the Latino community grows and takes over Black congressional areas. By 2050 Latinos will be 35% and Blacks 15% of the population - 140M to 60M

ModGlock17
10-24-2012, 07:07
Black voters aren't a political force because the overwhelmingly vote Dems. The Dems don't have to do anything to keep them and the Reps can't do anything to get them. The Black voters will become even less important as the Latino community grows and takes over Black congressional areas. By 2050 Latinos will be 35% and Blacks 15% of the population - 140M to 60M

Latinos are less likely to self-enslaved With the color of their skin.

We are in a free country, yet we are free to put fences around ourselves.

series1811
10-24-2012, 09:37
Black voters aren't a political force because the overwhelmingly vote Dems. The Dems don't have to do anything to keep them and the Reps can't do anything to get them. The Black voters will become even less important as the Latino community grows and takes over Black congressional areas. By 2050 Latinos will be 35% and Blacks 15% of the population - 140M to 60M

Exactly. The Democrats know they have their vote already and don't need to do one single thing to keep it. And, don't.

stsai465
10-24-2012, 09:49
Anyone remember the movie Bulworth? Yes, Beatty is a hard-core liberal, but this quote speaks the ugly truth.
Angry black woman: Are you sayin' the Democratic Party don't care about the African-American community?
Bullworth (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000886/): Isn't that OBVIOUS? You got half your kids are out of work and the other half are in jail. Do you see ANY Democrat doing anything about it? Certainly not me! So what're you gonna do, vote Republican? Come on! Come on, you're not gonna vote Republican! Let's call a spade a spade!
[Loud, angry booing]
Bullworth (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000886/): I mean - come on! You can have a Billion Man March! If you don't put down that malt liquor and chicken wings, and get behind someone other than a running back who stabs his wife, you're NEVER gonna get rid of somebody like me!

Trew2Life
10-24-2012, 15:08
If only we could coalesce our economic spending power, our dominance in sports and entertainment and our influence on American culture ... THEN, maybe then we'd have a chance at being more like the strictly white Republican voters of the super-red state of Mississippi:
*The lowest per capita personal income of any state.
*Ranked 50th (a.k.a., 'last place') among all states for health care.
*2nd highest state in federal subsidies and spending.
*The lowest of any state on the National Assessments of Education Progress in bothe math and science.
*Ranked 47th on the American Human Develoment Index.

But ... It's the 'Black Vote' that isn't faught for. :rofl:

We ulteriorly motivated Black voters. When will we learn to vote fairly on values and principles instead of the blatantly discriminatory practices that American elections were, misfortunately, founded upon. After all, we've had 47 years of practice.

series1811
10-24-2012, 15:20
If only we could coalesce our economic spending power, our dominance in sports and entertainment and our influence on American culture ... THEN, maybe then we'd have a chance at being more like the strictly white Republican voters of the super-red state of Mississippi:
*The lowest per capita personal income of any state.
*Ranked 50th (a.k.a., 'last place') among all states for health care.
*2nd highest state in federal subsidies and spending.
*The lowest of any state on the National Assessments of Education Progress in bothe math and science.
*Ranked 47th on the American Human Develoment Index.

But ... It's the 'Black Vote' that isn't faught for. :rofl:

We ulteriorly motivated Black voters. When will we learn to vote fairly on values and principles instead of the blatantly discriminatory practices that American elections were, misfortunately, founded upon. After all, we've had 47 years of practice.

And, what is your take on why that is true?

Trew2Life
10-24-2012, 15:30
And, what is your take on why that is true?

You would have to be more specific.

series1811
10-24-2012, 15:37
You would have to be more specific.

What, and who, do you think is responsible, for instance, for Mississippi being rate so poorly, and taking so much federal money?

p.d.
10-24-2012, 16:17
"bothe math and science" and "faught for". Are you originally from Mississippi?

ModGlock17
10-24-2012, 16:24
"bothe math and science" and "faught for". Are you originally from Mississippi?


he was in a hurry. One too many Viagra.

Trew2Life
10-24-2012, 16:28
What, and who, do you think is responsible, for instance, for Mississippi being rate so poorly, and taking so much federal money?

Ultimately, I would suggest, the responsibility falls upon the Mississippians who vote for party instead of policy. Unless they favor policies that stagnate their economic growth and development.

This differs from the so called conundrum of Black democrats. Speaking for myself, my policies are democratic and liberal policies. I favor universal healthcare, womens rights, PBS, same-sex marriage, responsible regulations. I disagree with many of my parties gun issues (but nobody is perfect).

The idea that the 'Black voter' has issues other than those of the general population is absurd. We care about unemployment, jobs, crime, housing, taxes ... everything everyone else does.

It's the Republican Party that needs to take a long hard look at itself and it's constituents to find out why it isn't more attractive to non-whites.

PaulMason
10-24-2012, 17:03
It's the Republican Party that needs to take a long hard look at itself and it's constituents to find out why it isn't more attractive to non-whites.

90% of the black vote has gone Democrat since FDR.

What could the Republicans do to get 50% of blacks vote Republican?

Let me help you out here - don't reply "They shouldn't do ..."

Trew2Life
10-24-2012, 17:11
I'd vote Independent BEFORE I'd vote Republican.

gwalchmai
10-24-2012, 17:17
I'd vote Independent BEFORE I'd vote Republican.Why is that, you being such an issues voter and all?

Gundude
10-24-2012, 17:35
This is the conundrum for the black community. As they become a more loyal to, but smaller share of, the Democrat coalition, attention to their community will continue to be a smaller portion of the party’s priorities.

Despite their immense loyalty and “victim” status in the party, unless a sizeable portion of black voters becomes Independent or Republican, the Democrats will have no need to work for their vote.

Black voters have a Democrat problem, being too entrenched in one party allows them to be ignored and abused, because Republicans feel they cannot work for their vote and Democrats know they cannot lose their vote.

Full story at:
http://www.humanevents.com/2012/10/21/black-voters-democrat-problems/Hmmm... :whistling:

Shall we extrapolate a little bit here, or shall we continue to delude ourselves as to the scope of this "problem".

Trew2Life
10-24-2012, 17:37
Why is that, you being such an issues voter and all?

Just saying ... if for some reason I cannot vote for the Democratic candidate, I would vote for the third party before I voted Republican.

countrygun
10-24-2012, 17:42
Just saying ... if for some reason I cannot vote for the Democratic candidate, I would vote for the third party before I voted Republican.

Sorry, you don't have that option, the socialist and Communist parties are backing Obama.

JFrame
10-24-2012, 17:46
Anyone remember the movie Bulworth? Yes, Beatty is a hard-core liberal, but this quote speaks the ugly truth.


Okay -- I'm going to have to see "Bulworth"...

It's sort of the broken clock syndrome -- but leftists can occasionally stumble onto some essential truths -- as with Aaron Sorkin in "A Few Good Men"... Or perhaps just by saying the opposite of what they really mean...


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Hef
10-24-2012, 18:06
Ultimately, I would suggest, the responsibility falls upon the Mississippians who vote for party instead of policy. Unless they favor policies that stagnate their economic growth and development.

This differs from the so called conundrum of Black democrats. Speaking for myself, my policies are democratic and liberal policies. I favor universal healthcare, womens rights, PBS, same-sex marriage, responsible regulations. I disagree with many of my parties gun issues (but nobody is perfect).

The idea that the 'Black voter' has issues other than those of the general population is absurd. We care about unemployment, jobs, crime, housing, taxes ... everything everyone else does.

It's the Republican Party that needs to take a long hard look at itself and it's constituents to find out why it isn't more attractive to non-whites.

I have had otherwise reasonable black friends tell me that a) it is "IMPOSSIBLE" for black people to be racist, and b) they voted for Obama in 2008 and will do so this year again solely because "Obama is black". Some of these people are business owners, not the professional welfare recipient sort of black folks typically attributed to the blind faithful Obama support faction of black America. They have made it quite clear that they will vote for him no matter what, because to vote against him is to be "an Uncle Tom".

With that sort of thinking amongst some more educated black folks, I wonder how easy it must be to lead the poor and uneducated black voters. I suppose that is why Democrats so blatantly buy their votes with "free" rent, food, health insurance, cell phones, and spending money.

rgregoryb
10-24-2012, 18:10
I'd vote Independent BEFORE I'd vote Republican.

damn, what a surprise......................:whistling:

stsai465
10-24-2012, 18:19
Just saying ... if for some reason I cannot vote for the Democratic candidate, I would vote for the third party before I voted Republican.
In other words, you are living proof of the OP's posted article's premise. Nothing the Democrats can say/do that will dissuade you from voting for them; nothing the GOP can say/do that will persuade you to flip. So as far as both major parties are concerned (and to be blunt, the ones that hold any real power in this country), you aren't worth diddly squat and aren't worthy any political capital to persuade.

rgregoryb
10-24-2012, 18:22
Dems are going to drop Blacks in favor of Hispanics soon.........oh wait, they are doing it now.

Trew2Life
10-24-2012, 18:38
I have had otherwise reasonable black friends tell me that a) it is "IMPOSSIBLE" for black people to be racist, and b) they voted for Obama in 2008 and will do so this year again solely because "Obama is black". Some of these people are business owners, not the professional welfare recipient sort of black folks typically attributed to the blind faithful Obama support faction of black America. They have made it quite clear that they will vote for him no matter what, because to vote against him is to be "an Uncle Tom".

Was this a scientific poll? What's the margin of error? +/- 4 homeless people ... did you oversample drug dealers?

I don't know if you're just F'ing with me or not, but I hope you know there are just as many white people on federal assistance (39%) as blacks (37%).

With that sort of thinking amongst some more educated black folks, I wonder how easy it must be to lead the poor and uneducated black voters. I suppose that is why Democrats so blatantly buy their votes with "free" rent, food, health insurance, cell phones, and spending money.

Apparantly not as easy as it is for you to be so gullable to stereotypes.

countrygun
10-24-2012, 18:49
Was this a scientific poll? What's the margin of error? +/- 4 homeless people ... did you oversample drug dealers?

I don't know if you're just F'ing with me or not, but I hope you know there are just as many white people on federal assistance (39%) as blacks (37%).



Apparantly not as easy as it is for you to be so gullable to stereotypes.

Yup and 97% of black voters proved how wrong he was in the last election

Trew2Life
10-24-2012, 18:59
In other words, you are living proof of the OP's posted article's premise. Nothing the Democrats can say/do that will dissuade you from voting for them; nothing the GOP can say/do that will persuade you to flip. So as far as both major parties are concerned (and to be blunt, the ones that hold any real power in this country), you aren't worth diddly squat and aren't worthy any political capital to persuade.

Not true, because the entire premise draws off of a faulty assumption that the black voter issue is different than the white voter issue. Who campaigns on creating jobs for the white community and creating jobs for the black community? Who campaigns on lowering taxes for white families and lowering taxes on black families? No one who wants to have a successful political carreer, for sure. The policy is to create jobs or lower taxes for Americans ... not a black or white thing.

Again, if the GOP weren't so 'archaic' they would get more support from non-white voters. It's not a matter of color. It's a matter of character.

QNman
10-24-2012, 19:05
This is the conundrum for the black community. As they become a more loyal to, but smaller share of, the Democrat coalition, attention to their community will continue to be a smaller portion of the party’s priorities.

Despite their immense loyalty and “victim” status in the party, unless a sizeable portion of black voters becomes Independent or Republican, the Democrats will have no need to work for their vote.

Black voters have a Democrat problem, being too entrenched in one party allows them to be ignored and abused, because Republicans feel they cannot work for their vote and Democrats know they cannot lose their vote.

Full story at:
http://www.humanevents.com/2012/10/21/black-voters-democrat-problems/

You're right on. It's exactly the same situation with conservatives and Republicans.

concretefuzzynuts
10-24-2012, 19:06
I'm sure the next point will be, "You aren't black, you wouldn't understand".

RyanSBHF
10-24-2012, 19:07
If only we could coalesce our economic spending power, our dominance in sports and entertainment and our influence on American culture ... THEN, maybe then we'd have a chance at being more like the strictly white Republican voters of the super-red state of Mississippi:
*The lowest per capita personal income of any state.
*Ranked 50th (a.k.a., 'last place') among all states for health care.
*2nd highest state in federal subsidies and spending.
*The lowest of any state on the National Assessments of Education Progress in bothe math and science.
*Ranked 47th on the American Human Develoment Index.



It's a shame we can't all live in peaceful, majority black Utopias like Detroit, Washington D.C, Memphis or Birmingham.
The "economic spending power" blacks have certainly hasn't helped majority black states or cities very much, has it?

Do I even need to mention the disproportionately high rates of violent crime committed by blacks in the US and around the world?

QNman
10-24-2012, 19:12
In other words, you are living proof of the OP's posted article's premise. Nothing the Democrats can say/do that will dissuade you from voting for them; nothing the GOP can say/do that will persuade you to flip. So as far as both major parties are concerned (and to be blunt, the ones that hold any real power in this country), you aren't worth diddly squat and aren't worthy any political capital to persuade.

Touche'.

QNman
10-24-2012, 19:15
Not true, because the entire premise draws off of a faulty assumption that the black voter issue is different than the white voter issue. Who campaigns on creating jobs for the white community and creating jobs for the black community? Who campaigns on lowering taxes for white families and lowering taxes on black families? No one who wants to have a successful political carreer, for sure. The policy is to create jobs or lower taxes for Americans ... not a black or white thing.

Again, if the GOP weren't so 'archaic' they would get more support from non-white voters. It's not a matter of color. It's a matter of character.

You lost me... who in the GOP has EVER stated they were trying to create WHITE JOBS or lower WHITE taxes? I'm genuinely confused...

What would the GOP have to do to earn your vote? I'm non-white, and a conservative who has OCCASIONALLY crossed over and voted Dem (though admittedly, very rarely. Some Republicans are bad enough to suffer through a Dem term to get them out). I do NOT consider myself beholden to ANY party.

Why are you?

Hef
10-24-2012, 19:18
Was this a scientific poll? What's the margin of error? +/- 4 homeless people ... did you oversample drug dealers?

I don't know if you're just F'ing with me or not, but I hope you know there are just as many white people on federal assistance (39%) as blacks (37%).



Apparantly not as easy as it is for you to be so gullable to stereotypes.

Between responding to things I never said and the emotion with which you do so, I am going to guess you are a woman. Thanks for the chuckle.

QNman
10-24-2012, 19:19
It's a shame we can't all live in peaceful, majority black Utopias like Detroit, Washington D.C, Memphis or Birmingham.
The "economic spending power" blacks have certainly hasn't helped majority black states or cities very much, has it?

Do I even need to mention the disproportionately high rates of violent crime committed by blacks in the US and around the world?

Separating or defining an entire class of people based on skin pigmentation is unfair. Detroit is a cesspool, but certainly NOT because of its black population. I'd suggest it is related to socio-economics coupled with the "corporate town" mentality of having been completely reliant on the Big Three automakers for generations, only to have them pack up and close shop over the last couple.

concretefuzzynuts
10-24-2012, 19:19
You are seeing a true racist unfold before your eyes.

rgregoryb
10-24-2012, 19:19
It's a shame we can't all live in peaceful, majority black Utopias like Detroit, Washington D.C, Memphis or Birmingham.
The "economic spending power" blacks have certainly hasn't helped majority black states or cities very much, has it?

Do I even need to mention the disproportionately high rates of violent crime committed by blacks in the US and around the world?

you forgot Atlanta and Camden NJ

gwalchmai
10-24-2012, 19:29
Just saying ... if for some reason I cannot vote for the Democratic candidate, I would vote for the third party before I voted Republican.
But, if as you say, you "favor universal healthcare, womens rights, PBS, same-sex marriage, responsible regulations", you'd vote for whichever party supports these policies, however silly and shortsighted they may be.

Hef
10-24-2012, 19:31
But, if as you say, you "favor universal healthcare, womens rights, PBS, same-sex marriage, responsible regulations", you'd vote for whichever party supports these policies, however silly and shortsighted they may be.

Stop. You're going to confuse her.

Trew2Life
10-24-2012, 19:39
You lost me... who in the GOP has EVER stated they were trying to create WHITE JOBS or lower WHITE taxes? I'm genuinely confused...

That's my point. No one does that. It would be absurd. Jobs creation is for everyone. Tax reform is for everyone. There are no black voter issues vs white voter issues. There are only voter issues. At least in my mind.

What would the GOP have to do to earn your vote? I'm non-white, and a conservative who has OCCASIONALLY crossed over and voted Dem (though admittedly, very rarely. Some Republicans are bad enough to suffer through a Dem term to get them out). I do NOT consider myself beholden to ANY party.
Why are you?

I am not beholden to ANY party. I am beholden to policies that I believe in; universal health care, women rights, same-sex marriage ... I don't have to be sick, a woman or gay to support these progressive concerns.

The GOP would need an extreme make-over to earn my vote. They would need to adopt new and progressive ideas and recognize the constitutional boundary of church and state.

countrygun
10-24-2012, 19:42
That's my point. No one does that. It would be absurd. Jobs creation is for everyone. Tax reform is for everyone. There are no black voter issues vs white voter issues. There are only voter issues. At least in my mind.



I am not beholden to ANY party. I am beholden to policies that I believe in; universal health care, women rights, same-sex marriage ... I don't have to be sick, a woman or gay to support these progressive concerns.

The GOP would need an extreme make-over to earn my vote. They would need to adopt new and progressive ideas and recognize the constitutional boundary of church and state.

So, you would vote for the GOP if they were the Democratic party. We get it. BFD.

Trew2Life
10-24-2012, 19:44
For 500 points and the win. What infamous GT'er said:

"I find it interesting that those who call others racists without even knowing them, are usually the racists themselves because they are so focused on race."

Answer: Concretefuzzynuts on 08-31-2012 @ 17:09 in post# 79 of the, 'Who was/is your least favorite President' thread.

No truer words have ever been spoken. Thank you once again for playing along.

rgregoryb
10-24-2012, 20:27
The GOP would need an extreme make-over to earn my vote. They would need to adopt new and progressive ideas and recognize the constitutional boundary of church and state.

well I hope that never happens. Progressive ideas? what is the boundary according to COTUS regarding C&S?

IvanVic
10-24-2012, 21:10
It's a shame we can't all live in peaceful, majority black Utopias like Detroit, Washington D.C, Memphis or Birmingham.
The "economic spending power" blacks have certainly hasn't helped majority black states or cities very much, has it?

Do I even need to mention the disproportionately high rates of violent crime committed by blacks in the US and around the world?

It is true that blacks have a higher crime rate, although ignoring the connection between poverty and crime isn't helping your point. People in poverty commit more crimes, irrespective of race. That isn't to say that there are not problems specific to the black community, but you're only seeing the part of the picture you want to see.


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Trew2Life
10-24-2012, 21:35
well I hope that never happens. Progressive ideas? what is the boundary according to COTUS regarding C&S?

Of course, the actual phrase 'separation of church and state' does not appear in the COTUS, but the intent is clearly expressed in the establishment clause and the free exercise clause of the COTUS.

I quote Jefferson:

"Believing with you that religion is a matter which lies solely between man & his God, that he owes account to none other for his faith or his worship, the legitimate powers of government reach actions only, & not opinions, I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should 'make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof", thus building a wall of separation between chuch & state."

I quote Madison:

"Practical disctintion between religion and civil government is essential to the purity of both, and as guaranteed by the Constitution of the United States."

"We are teaching the world the great truth that governments do better without kings & nobles than with them. The merit will be doubled by the other lesson that religion flourishes in greater purity, without than with, the aid of government."

LAWDOGKMS
10-24-2012, 21:38
you forgot Atlanta and Camden NJ

EDITED: because although what I wrote was true, it was inflammatory.

rgregoryb
10-25-2012, 06:51
EDITED: because although what I wrote was true, it was inflammatory.

the truth often is

series1811
10-25-2012, 06:58
Ultimately, I would suggest, the responsibility falls upon the Mississippians who vote for party instead of policy. Unless they favor policies that stagnate their economic growth and development.

This differs from the so called conundrum of Black democrats. Speaking for myself, my policies are democratic and liberal policies. I favor universal healthcare, womens rights, PBS, same-sex marriage, responsible regulations. I disagree with many of my parties gun issues (but nobody is perfect).

The idea that the 'Black voter' has issues other than those of the general population is absurd. We care about unemployment, jobs, crime, housing, taxes ... everything everyone else does.

It's the Republican Party that needs to take a long hard look at itself and it's constituents to find out why it isn't more attractive to non-whites.

Who do you think is the Congressional representative of the poorest district in Mississippi and what do you think his political affiliation is? Who do you think is the Congressional representative of the district in Mississippi that receives the most federal and state money in Mississippi? What do you think are the demographics of that district (because it is the same district)?

You must know those things, since you know why Mississippi has that problem.

rgregoryb
10-25-2012, 07:12
Of course, the actual phrase 'separation of church and state' does not appear in the COTUS, but the intent is clearly expressed in the establishment clause and the free exercise clause of the COTUS.


you speak of "intent", yet the 2nd Amend is quite clear and you vote for the party that would gladly ignore it, seems a bit odd

gwalchmai
10-25-2012, 07:15
Has there been a black democrat politician in recent memory who has championed issues directly benefiting anyone other than black voters (or "the poor" :upeyes:)?

series1811
10-25-2012, 07:28
Has there been a black democrat politician in recent memory who has championed issues directly benefiting anyone other than black voters (or "the poor" :upeyes:)?

Black Americans' worst enemies, have always been Democratic politicians. Republicans know that they have to at least do something for the benefit of black Americans to get their vote.

concretefuzzynuts
10-25-2012, 08:13
For 500 points and the win. What infamous GT'er said:

"I find it interesting that those who call others racists without even knowing them, are usually the racists themselves because they are so focused on race."

Answer: Concretefuzzynuts on 08-31-2012 @ 17:09 in post# 79 of the, 'Who was/is your least favorite President' thread.

No truer words have ever been spoken. Thank you once again for playing along.

This proves you know how to keep records of what I post.

aircarver
10-25-2012, 09:54
This proves you know how to keep records of what I post.


Probably got a file on each of us for as long as the Soros payroll lasts .... :upeyes:

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Gundude
10-25-2012, 10:26
Black Americans' worst enemies, have always been Democratic politicians. Republicans know that they have to at least do something for the benefit of black Americans to get their vote.
Republicans also know they have to do nothing for yours.

That's why under a republican administration you'll see affirmative action and amnesty, but no balanced budget.

They already have your vote, what are you gonna do if they run up massive deficits and create giant new bureaucracies?

rgregoryb
10-25-2012, 12:40
Republicans also know they have to do nothing for yours.

That's why under a republican administration you'll see affirmative action and amnesty, but no balanced budget.

They already have your vote, what are you gonna do if they run up massive deficits and create giant new bureaucracies?

I dunno, vote for "Hope and Change"? , that has served the country well.

countrygun
10-25-2012, 12:55
Republicans also know they have to do nothing for yours.

That's why under a republican administration you'll see affirmative action and amnesty, but no balanced budget.

They already have your vote, what are you gonna do if they run up massive deficits and create giant new bureaucracies?

Oh, but aren't Republicans afraid we are all going to vote Libertarian if they don't do what we want?

JimP
10-25-2012, 15:03
Wow - way to go in dispelling the myth of the intelligent voting choice of the individual black voter.

What party was started specifically to do away with slavery? (GOP)
What party championed the civil rights acts ? (GOP)
What party offers the only real opportunity for blacks to dig out of poverty? (GOP)

What party championed slavery? (Dems)
What party blocked civil rights for blacks? (Dems)
What party enslaved an entire race of people? (Dems)

Wow - you're on a roll there on justifying the step-n-fetch for the democrats.....

countrygun
10-25-2012, 15:12
Wow - way to go in dispelling the myth of the intelligent voting choice of the individual black voter.

What party was started specifically to do away with slavery? (GOP)
What party championed the civil rights acts ? (GOP)
What party offers the only real opportunity for blacks to dig out of poverty? (GOP)

What party championed slavery? (Dems)
What party blocked civil rights for blacks? (Dems)
What party enslaved an entire race of people? (Dems)

Wow - you're on a roll there on justifying the step-n-fetch for the democrats.....


It goes to,

which party claims that blacks need "special compensation" to actually be "equal", and they just happen to be the party that offers them?

Gundude
10-25-2012, 15:23
I dunno, vote for "Hope and Change"? , that has served the country well.Exactly, you don't know. Nor do blacks know what to do about the Democrats stiffing them. If you think they should just vote Republican instead, then you should just vote Democrat instead as a response to Republicans stiffing you, if it's that easy.

Gundude
10-25-2012, 15:25
Oh, but aren't Republicans afraid we are all going to vote Libertarian if they don't do what we want?If they lose a few elections in a row they will be.

countrygun
10-25-2012, 15:53
If they lose a few elections in a row they will be.

And when will this start happening Carnac oh great sage, see'er and sothsayer? I voted third party in 1980. That makes about 32 years (or 8 POTUS elections) and I am willing to bet the third party numbers aren't any better in this election than then.

You just keep backhandedly keep helping Obama. When Romney wins this election the Libertarian type third parties will be finished for at least 8 years. If Romney does ANY good it will render you folks moot. That's why you'd rather see Obama in, Not for your Country but for your ego.

Trew2Life
10-25-2012, 17:02
Wow - way to go in dispelling the myth of the intelligent voting choice of the individual black voter.

What party was started specifically to do away with slavery? (GOP)
What party championed the civil rights acts ? (GOP)
What party offers the only real opportunity for blacks to dig out of poverty? (GOP)

What party championed slavery? (Dems)
What party blocked civil rights for blacks? (Dems)
What party enslaved an entire race of people? (Dems)

Wow - you're on a roll there on justifying the step-n-fetch for the democrats.....

This is an excellent demonstration of NOT fully understanding the evolution of our political parties AND being dead wrong.

The Republican and Democratic party that existed up to the end of slavery ARE NOT the same parties (ideology wise) that exist today. After the Great Depression American political ideas and platforms switched, traded roles. The Democrats became the party of big business and social entitlements and the Republicans became fiscal conservative.

As you can see, truely the Republicans did in fact abolish slavery, but 100 years later the Republicans where lynching, killing, imprisoning black men who fought for civil rights.

Reading is fundamental. Try more time with a book and less time with your glock and you might learn a thing or 2.

Hef
10-25-2012, 17:17
Republicans also know they have to do nothing for yours.

That's why under a republican administration you'll see affirmative action and amnesty, but no balanced budget.

They already have your vote, what are you gonna do if they run up massive deficits and create giant new bureaucracies?

Democrats can't pass a budget at all.

countrygun
10-25-2012, 17:21
This is an excellent demonstration of NOT fully understanding the evolution of our political parties AND being dead wrong.

The Republican and Democratic party that existed up to the end of slavery ARE NOT the same parties (ideology wise) that exist today. After the Great Depression American political ideas and platforms switched, traded roles. The Democrats became the party of big business and social entitlements and the Republicans became fiscal conservative.

As you can see, truely the Republicans did in fact abolish slavery, but 100 years later the Republicans where lynching, killing, imprisoning black men who fought for civil rights.

Reading is fundamental. Try more time with a book and less time with your glock and you might learn a thing or 2.

Which party did George Wallace and Lester Maddox belong to in the 1960s?.

Acujeff
10-25-2012, 17:36
What party did KKK congressman Robert Byrd belong to?

As usual, Trew thinks revising history is the basis of a fact.

Trew2Life
10-25-2012, 18:19
I sure hope this is just your online psuedo-persona and you don't really think pointing out racism on the left excuses racism on the right.

Why don't one of you 'historians' tell me why/how 100 years after abolishing slavery, Republicans in the south were clearly so apethetic toward civil rights?

countrygun
10-25-2012, 18:26
I sure hope this is just your online psuedo-persona and you don't really think pointing out racism on the left excuses racism on the right.

Why don't one of you 'historians' tell me why/how 100 years after abolishing slavery, Republicans in the south were clearly so apethetic toward civil rights?

What is your proof they were apathetic? they were also horribly outnumbered voting wise. Do a little research before you ask a child's question.


"you don't really think pointing out racism on the left excuses racism on the right"


You don't really think that pointing out white racism means there is no black racism, now do you?

concretefuzzynuts
10-25-2012, 18:35
Barack Obama has no respect for the American People - YouTube

PaulMason
10-25-2012, 18:36
I sure hope this is just your online psuedo-persona and you don't really think pointing out racism on the left excuses racism on the right.

Why don't one of you 'historians' tell me why/how 100 years after abolishing slavery, Republicans in the south were clearly so apethetic toward civil rights?

That would be the 1960s when the Dems were in control of the South.

The Dems filibustered against civil rights in 1957 & 1963

JFK voted against the 1957 Civil Rights act.

To put it mildly, LBJ was not a consistent advocate of racial equality. Bartlett (both in his book and in this article (http://www.opinionjournal.com/extra/?id=110011033)) quotes LBJ's explanation of why he backed the Civil Rights Act of 1957:"These Negroes, they're getting pretty uppity these days and that's a problem for us since they've got something now they never had before, the political pull to back up their uppityness. Now we've got to do something about this, we've got to give them a little something, just enough to quiet them down, not enough to make a difference. For if we don't move at all, then their allies will line up against us and there'll be no way of stopping them, we'll lose the filibuster and there'll be no way of putting a brake on all sorts of wild legislation. It'll be Reconstruction all over again."
http://thecitysquare.blogspot.com/2008/01/lbj-vs-civil-rights-act-of-1957.html

concretefuzzynuts
10-25-2012, 19:34
I subscribe to this gentleman's videos on youtube also.

Slave Logic Pt1 - YouTube

rgregoryb
10-25-2012, 19:36
I sure hope this is just your online psuedo-persona and you don't really think pointing out racism on the left excuses racism on the right.

Why don't one of you 'historians' tell me why/how 100 years after abolishing slavery, Republicans in the south were clearly so apethetic toward civil rights?

the south was controlled by dems until recently...last election in AL is the first time since civil war that repubs control congress ,senate and gov

Trew2Life
10-25-2012, 19:37
That would be the 1960s when the Dems were in control of the South.

The Dems filibustered against civil rights in 1957 & 1963

JFK voted against the 1957 Civil Rights act.

To put it mildly, LBJ was not a consistent advocate of racial equality. Bartlett (both in his book and in this article (http://www.opinionjournal.com/extra/?id=110011033)) quotes LBJ's explanation of why he backed the Civil Rights Act of 1957:
"These Negroes, they're getting pretty uppity these days and that's a problem for us since they've got something now they never had before, the political pull to back up their uppityness. Now we've got to do something about this, we've got to give them a little something, just enough to quiet them down, not enough to make a difference. For if we don't move at all, then their allies will line up against us and there'll be no way of stopping them, we'll lose the filibuster and there'll be no way of putting a brake on all sorts of wild legislation. It'll be Reconstruction all over again."

http://thecitysquare.blogspot.com/2008/01/lbj-vs-civil-rights-act-of-1957.html

This is the transitional period between the two party ideologies, as mentioned previously.

While JFK did oppose Civil Rights prior to his presidency, as president he came out in favor of the same and with the help of his brother, AG RFK, did much more for the advancement of civil rights than all his predecessors.

countrygun
10-25-2012, 19:42
This is the transitional period between the two party ideologies, as mentioned previously.

While JFK did oppose Civil Rights prior to his presidency, as president he came out in favor of the same and with the help of his brother, AG RFK, did much more for the advancement of civil rights than all his predecessors.

You are showing your historical ignorance once again. You have, in your broad statement the great leap taken by another Democrat. Truman's integration of the Army did one heck of a lot to bring down barriers. Yes, again he was a Dem, but is shows the shortsightedness and sweeping generalizations, most often completely incorrect, that have become your trademark.

PaulMason
10-25-2012, 19:52
This is the transitional period between the two party ideologies, as mentioned previously.

While JFK did oppose Civil Rights prior to his presidency, as president he came out in favor of the same and with the help of his brother, AG RFK, did much more for the advancement of civil rights than all his predecessors.

To be clear you, and people like you have won. That does not mean your are right. This isn't about race, it is about ignorance and how it is created and exploited.

It means that you do not know history, that you can not think for yourself, and you do not have the courage to do either.

So, you have won. But what have you won? You have won the dregs you have helped to create.

Enjoy.

Hef
10-25-2012, 19:58
Stop feeding the troll.

concretefuzzynuts
10-25-2012, 20:01
Stop feeding the troll.

+1

Watch the videos.

countrygun
10-25-2012, 20:02
Stop feeding the troll.

I am getting a bit tired of his either deliberate or ignorant misrepresentations. i don't care which it is, If he is an adult he either knows he's lying or doesn't know the difference.

either way

Not worth the time.

QNman
10-25-2012, 20:49
That's my point. No one does that. It would be absurd. Jobs creation is for everyone. Tax reform is for everyone. There are no black voter issues vs white voter issues. There are only voter issues. At least in my mind.



I am not beholden to ANY party. I am beholden to policies that I believe in; universal health care, women rights, same-sex marriage ... I don't have to be sick, a woman or gay to support these progressive concerns.

The GOP would need an extreme make-over to earn my vote. They would need to adopt new and progressive ideas and recognize the constitutional boundary of church and state.

In other words - they'd have to be Democrats.

I stand corrected. You truly are a Democrat. And I don't give a rats tail what color you are.

series1811
10-26-2012, 06:56
Republicans also know they have to do nothing for yours.

That's why under a republican administration you'll see affirmative action and amnesty, but no balanced budget.

They already have your vote, what are you gonna do if they run up massive deficits and create giant new bureaucracies?

I'm not a Republican. I'm one of those crazy (racist, too, I'll say it before you DUers say it) Tea Party members. I just realize that I have to pick the better of the two candidates that the system gives me and Romney is clearly that candidate over Obama by a country mile.

JFrame
10-26-2012, 07:06
I'm not a Republican. I'm one of those crazy (racist, too, I'll say it before you DUers say it) Tea Party members. I just realize that I have to pick the better of the two candidates that the system gives me and Romney is clearly that candidate over Obama by a country mile.


I've witnessed the craziness of you Tea Party types. You police the grounds where you hold your rallies and leave them cleaner than you originally find them.

WTF is up with that??? :dunno:


;)


.

series1811
10-26-2012, 07:21
This is the transitional period between the two party ideologies, as mentioned previously.

While JFK did oppose Civil Rights prior to his presidency, as president he came out in favor of the same and with the help of his brother, AG RFK, did much more for the advancement of civil rights than all his predecessors.

I see you didn't answer my question. I'm guessing that's because you looked the answer up and it doesn't really fit your preconceived notions.

JimP
10-26-2012, 08:52
1811 - it's a shocking moment for the kool-aid drinkers when they realize the obeisance they've played to the dems for all these years was wasted and self-destructive.

Give her a few days to come to the realization that there is some verifiable truth out there and that Blacks have been engaged in mass hysteria by supporting democrats all these years. Then we can introduce her to Mia Love; Alan Keyes; Allen West; Herman Caine; Thomas Sowell; etc.

bright days ahead Trew...bright days!! :)

Gundude
10-26-2012, 08:55
I'm not a Republican. I'm one of those crazy (racist, too, I'll say it before you DUers say it) Tea Party members. I just realize that I have to pick the better of the two candidates that the system gives me and Romney is clearly that candidate over Obama by a country mile.You do? Tea Party-backed Sharron Angle not only helped Democrats hold onto the Senate, but ensured Harry Reid was left in charge.

Tea Party-backed Mourdock will help ensure Democrats hold onto the Senate again, by following the exact same playbook as Angle: defeat the Republican most likely to win the election, and then bury yourself with stupid abortion comments, thus giving the win to the Democrat.

Yeah, you Tea Party people really are pragmatic. :upeyes:

Gundude
10-26-2012, 09:40
And when will this start happening Carnac oh great sage, see'er and sothsayer? I voted third party in 1980. That makes about 32 years (or 8 POTUS elections) and I am willing to bet the third party numbers aren't any better in this election than then.

You just keep backhandedly keep helping Obama. When Romney wins this election the Libertarian type third parties will be finished for at least 8 years. If Romney does ANY good it will render you folks moot. That's why you'd rather see Obama in, Not for your Country but for your ego.That doesn't make any sense. I'd be ecstatic if Romney did any good. I just don't believe it'll happen, and neither did most people here just a few months ago.

The fact that Romney progressed from a barely palatable alternative to Obama to the guy who's gonna save the country just goes to show the power of the campaign ads and theatrics.

He is the same progressive, big government liberal he was a few months ago. You've simply allowed yourself to be deluded into now thinking he's more than the lesser of two evils.

madbaumer
10-26-2012, 10:30
I subscribe to this gentleman's videos on youtube also.

Slave Logic Pt1 - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tQ9BcyxyjpU)

Mike does put out some good videos.

series1811
10-26-2012, 10:33
You do? Tea Party-backed Sharron Angle not only helped Democrats hold onto the Senate, but ensured Harry Reid was left in charge.

Tea Party-backed Mourdock will help ensure Democrats hold onto the Senate again, by following the exact same playbook as Angle: defeat the Republican most likely to win the election, and then bury yourself with stupid abortion comments, thus giving the win to the Democrat.

Yeah, you Tea Party people really are pragmatic. :upeyes:

You will note I didn't say you would like the fact that I'm Tea Party. In fact, I predicted just the opposite.

G29Reload
10-26-2012, 11:13
It's the Republican Party that needs to take a long hard look at itself and it's constituents to find out why it isn't more attractive to non-whites.

REally.

We should really reconsider Republican Abe lincoln who freed the slaves.

We should reconsider Ronald Reagan who created more black millionaires than any president in history.

We should reconsider why Bull connor and his police dogs and firehoses was a democrat and not a republican.

We should reconsider why Grand Kleagle of the KKK Robert Byrd of WV was a democrat and not a Republican.

We should reconsider why the dems promise change for the blacks every election and consistently fail to deliver yet they stupidly continue to vote for dems, and act monolithically as a block with 93% purity.

countrygun
10-26-2012, 13:05
That doesn't make any sense. I'd be ecstatic if Romney did any good. I just don't believe it'll happen, and neither did most people here just a few months ago.

The fact that Romney progressed from a barely palatable alternative to Obama to the guy who's gonna save the country just goes to show the power of the campaign ads and theatrics.

He is the same progressive, big government liberal he was a few months ago. You've simply allowed yourself to be deluded into now thinking he's more than the lesser of two evils.

There is your disengeuous habit of misstatement again and exaggerating what someone else said.


"The fact that Romney progressed from a barely palatable alternative to Obama to the guy who's gonna save the country"


you even quoted me when I said,

"If Romney does ANY good"



Far cry from the words you tried to put in my mouth in the same post.

Do you ever say anything honest?

rgregoryb
10-26-2012, 13:19
did someone say he is blick?

Trew2Life
10-26-2012, 13:32
I see you didn't answer my question. I'm guessing that's because you looked the answer up and it doesn't really fit your preconceived notions.

If 'notions' aren't 'preconceived', then how are they conceived? ... just saying, though.

First, and foremost, I appreciate the exchange of ideas in a mature manner, but I only get to do GT when I'm @ home.

The political parties of the Civil War era are not the same (ideology wise) as the their counterparts of the Depression Era, who are not the same as their counterparts of the Civil Rights era, who are not the same as their counterparts of present day. Racism is not party driven. It's people driven. So it's not unusual to find it exist in either/both parties.

Trew2Life
10-26-2012, 13:34
We should reconsider why the dems promise change for the blacks every election and consistently fail to deliver yet they stupidly continue to vote for dems, and act monolithically as a block with 93% purity.

What change is being promised for the blacks every election?

series1811
10-26-2012, 14:22
If 'notions' aren't 'preconceived', then how are they conceived? ... just saying, though.

First, and foremost, I appreciate the exchange of ideas in a mature manner, but I only get to do GT when I'm @ home.

The political parties of the Civil War era are not the same (ideology wise) as the their counterparts of the Depression Era, who are not the same as their counterparts of the Civil Rights era, who are not the same as their counterparts of present day. Racism is not party driven. It's people driven. So it's not unusual to find it exist in either/both parties.

So, did you look up the answers, or just figure it wouldn't do you any good?

series1811
10-26-2012, 14:27
So, you don't have to scroll back and hunt:

Who do you think is the Congressional representative of the poorest district in Mississippi and what do you think his political affiliation is? Who do you think is the Congressional representative of the district in Mississippi that receives the most federal and state money in Mississippi? What do you think are the demographics of that district (because it is the same district)?

You must know those things, since you know why Mississippi has that problem.

brickboy240
10-26-2012, 15:14
It is no secret that the Democratic Party is a modern day plantation for black people.

Some day...they might wake up to this fact but it still appears to be quite a ways off.

-brickboy240

Trew2Life
10-26-2012, 20:19
So, did you look up the answers, or just figure it wouldn't do you any good?

Who do you think is the Congressional representative of the poorest district in Mississippi and what do you think his political affiliation is? Who do you think is the Congressional representative of the district in Mississippi that receives the most federal and state money in Mississippi? What do you think are the demographics of that district (because it is the same district)?

You must know those things, since you know why Mississippi has that problem.

Republican Congressman Alan Nunnelee is the representative of the 1st Congressional District of MS. His district includes French Camp in Choctaw county, the poorest in Mississippi.

The demographics as of the last census show a population of 393 residents; 92.37% White, 5.09% African American

series1811
10-27-2012, 07:47
Republican Congressman Alan Nunnelee is the representative of the 1st Congressional District of MS. His district includes French Camp in Choctaw county, the poorest in Mississippi.

The demographics as of the last census show a population of 393 residents; 92.37% White, 5.09% African American
Nope. Not even close. It's the seoncd district, Bennie Thompson's district. And, it's the Mississippi Delta, plus Jackson, MS (another disaster area in and of itself, for the exact same reasons Detroit is. You can figure that one out for yourself).

http://www.census.gov/prod/2011pubs/cffr-10.pdf

And, do you notice something about the types of expenditures? Maybe this will make it make sense.

The fourth district has three military bases/complexes in it that skew its' numbers if you combine welfare spending with defense spending (Keesler AFB, U.S. Navy Seabee base, and Stennis Space Center, which also has a huge Naval contingent, as well as NSA contingent, plus it has Litton, which builds ships and drones for the military).


You take those away, and all the federal pensions for the military people assigned to those bases who stayed there when they retired, and it's even worse for the second district.

Businessmen in Mississippi love Thomson, though. You know why? Everything with him as a price. You tell him what federal contract you want, he tells you what campaign contribution in necessary to get it and who you minority sub will be (and those subs and Thompson are doing great).

And, you won't find this anywhere on the internet, but all you have to do to know what's up is to drive by the house Thompson lived in, in 1993 when he was elected to Congress, and then drive by the one he built just a few years later. Then go drive through the Delta and inner city Jackson (but not at night if you're smart) and see what he had done for his constitutents.

The Justice Department has also required that the black voter percentage be increased to keep Thompson in office, leading to one of the largest districts in the country.

In 2010, they re-elected him, with 61 per cent of the vote.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/special/politics/2010-race-maps/house/


http://www.cdispatch.com/news/article.asp?aid=14520

Here's a good picture of what the party breakdown of the poorest district in Mississippi looks like.

http://www.censusviewer.com/district-maps/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/MS-CD-930x531.jpg

And, plus there is no substitue for actually driving through Thompson's district.

How does he do it? Read about how.

http://blog.gulflive.com/mississippi-press-news/2012/10/bennie_thompson_faces_2_challe.html

Why do I pick on Thompson? Because, he is the textbook example of why many blacks in America can't get ahead-- They pick leaders who are leading them in the wrong direction.

G17Jake
10-27-2012, 09:38
Of course, the actual phrase 'separation of church and state' does not appear in the COTUS, but the intent is clearly expressed in the establishment clause and the free exercise clause of the COTUS.

I quote Jefferson:

"Believing with you that religion is a matter which lies solely between man & his God, that he owes account to none other for his faith or his worship, the legitimate powers of government reach actions only, & not opinions, I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should 'make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof", thus building a wall of separation between chuch & state."

I quote Madison:

"Practical disctintion between religion and civil government is essential to the purity of both, and as guaranteed by the Constitution of the United States."

"We are teaching the world the great truth that governments do better without kings & nobles than with them. The merit will be doubled by the other lesson that religion flourishes in greater purity, without than with, the aid of government."

The wall of separation is to keep government from interfering with the religious beliefs of the people. It wasn't meant to stop people from applying the principles that guide their daily lives, when they go to the polls.

Regardless of whether you believe in an almighty G-d, creator of the universe, or are an atheist, your beliefs affect your actions, including how you vote.

G29Reload
10-27-2012, 10:19
What change is being promised for the blacks every election?


The dems to the blacks in every election. Though recently the taken-for-granted factor is so high…


The dogwhistle usually sounded by Obama is "everyone gets a fair shot".

As if there hasn't been one for decades. In this country the only thing that holds you back is you. Of course you can always blame someone else and look who is setting the example...:upeyes:

G29Reload
10-27-2012, 10:21
What change is being promised for the blacks every election?

How about quoting the whole post and your epic fail in saying Republicans are to blame for not attracting whites?

You seem to be the biggest driveby troll we've had in quite some time. Of course once you lose this election we'll never hear from you again.

Trew2Life
10-27-2012, 11:49
The wall of separation is to keep government from interfering with the religious beliefs of the people. It wasn't meant to stop people from applying the principles that guide their daily lives, when they go to the polls.

Regardless of whether you believe in an almighty G-d, creator of the universe, or are an atheist, your beliefs affect your actions, including how you vote.

Absolutely agree! But I would have to take issue if/when those beliefs affect how you legislate.

I made that statement in reference to politicians who seem to bring their religious beliefs or psuedo-sciences into elected offices.

Trew2Life
10-27-2012, 12:20
The dems to the blacks in every election. Though recently the taken-for-granted factor is so high…


The dogwhistle usually sounded by Obama is "everyone gets a fair shot".

As if there hasn't been one for decades. In this country the only thing that holds you back is you. Of course you can always blame someone else and look who is setting the example...:upeyes:

I didn't know the black voter comprised 'everyone'. Someone should notify the census bureau.

Yes. We blacks have had our fair shot for the past 50 years since we were given the privilege to vote. I wonder how long white/males have been able to vote? But it's fair now.

I know I would have noone else to blame for my own failures which is why I have always chosen to take personal responsibility and accountability for myself and my future. It's worked out pretty good for me.

I'm sorry if your economic situation is so fragile and dire that its existence hinges on whether or not people (black and white), old and young, civilian and veteran get food and shelter and medical care.

But it reads like you're the one preparing a 'blame someone else' stragedy.

PS
I often find here in GT that the members who accuse others of trolling are usually the one's who have nothing mature/intellectual to add to the thread.

If you don't agree with my opinions, argue your point with with intellectual dialogue. Not immature name calling.

Trew2Life
10-27-2012, 13:55
Nope. Not even close. It's the seoncd district, Bennie Thompson's district. And, it's the Mississippi Delta, plus Jackson, MS (another disaster area in and of itself, for the exact same reasons Detroit is. You can figure that one out for yourself).

http://www.census.gov/prod/2011pubs/cffr-10.pdf

And, do you notice something about the types of expenditures? Maybe this will make it make sense.

The fourth district has three military bases/complexes in it that skew its' numbers if you combine welfare spending with defense spending (Keesler AFB, U.S. Navy Seabee base, and Stennis Space Center, which also has a huge Naval contingent, as well as NSA contingent, plus it has Litton, which builds ships and drones for the military).


You take those away, and all the federal pensions for the military people assigned to those bases who stayed there when they retired, and it's even worse for the second district.

Businessmen in Mississippi love Thomson, though. You know why? Everything with him as a price. You tell him what federal contract you want, he tells you what campaign contribution in necessary to get it and who you minority sub will be (and those subs and Thompson are doing great).

And, you won't find this anywhere on the internet, but all you have to do to know what's up is to drive by the house Thompson lived in, in 1993 when he was elected to Congress, and then drive by the one he built just a few years later. Then go drive through the Delta and inner city Jackson (but not at night if you're smart) and see what he had done for his constitutents.

The Justice Department has also required that the black voter percentage be increased to keep Thompson in office, leading to one of the largest districts in the country.

In 2010, they re-elected him, with 61 per cent of the vote.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/special/politics/2010-race-maps/house/


http://www.cdispatch.com/news/article.asp?aid=14520

Here's a good picture of what the party breakdown of the poorest district in Mississippi looks like.

http://www.censusviewer.com/district-maps/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/MS-CD-930x531.jpg

And, plus there is no substitue for actually driving through Thompson's district.

How does he do it? Read about how.

http://blog.gulflive.com/mississippi-press-news/2012/10/bennie_thompson_faces_2_challe.html

Why do I pick on Thompson? Because, he is the textbook example of why many blacks in America can't get ahead-- They pick leaders who are leading them in the wrong direction.

That's a lot of political salad and I fail to see how it explains the obvious. If Mississippi district 1 isn't the poorest district in MS then its a close second. In either case, and to your point and mine, our findings only demonstrate that poor people (white and black) do bad under Dems and Repubs.
:dunno:

G17Jake
10-27-2012, 16:30
Absolutely agree! But I would have to take issue if/when those beliefs affect how you legislate.

I made that statement in reference to politicians who seem to bring their religious beliefs or psuedo-sciences into elected offices.

Like forcing us to pay for abortions?

Zombie Surgeon
10-27-2012, 18:44
I always encourage my black friends to leave the Democrat plantation.

concretefuzzynuts
10-27-2012, 19:00
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tsRV-5qVAv0&feature=channel&list=ULhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tsRV-5qVAv0&feature=channel&list=UL

concretefuzzynuts
10-27-2012, 19:31
Bishop E.W. Jackson Message to Black Christians - YouTube

ModGlock17
10-27-2012, 21:23
Folks in GA say that they are turning out in large number in early voting, some 250,000 out of 350,000 registered.

Cavalry Doc
10-28-2012, 08:08
Folks in GA say that they are turning out in large number in early voting, some 250,000 out of 350,000 registered.

At this rate, it'll be a 350% voter turnout, huh?


I would not be surprised.

Hef
10-28-2012, 10:11
At this rate, it'll be a 350% voter turnout, huh?


I would not be surprised.

Just in Atlanta and Savannah.