Milita Rising on Discovery

[Kevinr20]

I watched a couple of minutes of "Militia Rising" for the first time tonight and I was kind of embarrassed for some of those guys.

Most of the militia trainees were obese, out of shape and had a general appearance that lacked professionalism. How can they expect anyone to take them serious or respect them?

One scene got me thinking....they have a "commander" that is training them. The trainees stood and saluted the commander or trainer.

Isn't that generally frowned upon....civilians saluting? Especially other civilians? :dunno:

[lunarspeak]

it doesnt matter...these are just guys that couldnt get their computers to download world of warcraft.

[HollowHead]

I'll bet on the ghetto kids. At least they can run as long as they keep their pants up. HH

[Lampshade]

I watched the show and figured someone would make a thread shortly.

"Twas a sad show indeed.

[Scott3670]

I watched the last 15 minutes. I wasn't impressed at all, and I hardly think I'll waste any more time watching future episodes.

[Pawcatch@aol.co]

I liked the Indiana guys,they didn't seem take themselves too seriously.
However,they Arizona guys are going to get someone hurt.

[JBnTX]

What a joke!

That crap has nothing to do with the second amendment, freedom, guarding the border or anything else.

It's just a bunch of wannabe tack-I-kool immature adults pretending to be something they're not. Those are the kind of losers that tell people in bars that they're Navy Seals, Special Super Secret Operators and lie about military experience.

Why were their faces washed out?
Maybe they don't want customers to recognize them when they deliver their pizza?

If they don't want people to know who they are, then why do a friggin TV show?

Notice how all their equipment was brand new and unused?
What did they train with?

That's the worst reality show yet.

[WarCry]

I'm waiting to hear someone chime in here as being featured on the show.


Isn't that generally frowned upon....civilians saluting? Especially other civilians? :dunno:

Civilians aren't under any kind of rule or regulations on this sort of stuff. They give each other the Spaceballs salute, whatever they hell they want. It's not frowned on.....



.....though it may be laughed at. Heartily.

[kirgi08]

tagged.

[AlexHassin]

wait what ?
social outcast, obese men and guns?
did someone open carry to a comic con convention?

[G-Lock808]

I watched a little of it. They all seemed really uncoordinated running around doing their tactical drills. Not that I could do any better, just sayin.

[AlexHassin]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iDubv6IcrBc

Dam this could have been a comedy cold mine, just judging by the clip.

[holesinpaper]

meh.

Could be worse, could be airsoft.

[JDO]

It's what I would imagine it be like if everyone from GlockTalk lived in the same area.

[AlexHassin]

It's what I would imagine it be like if everyone from GlockTalk lived in the same area.

yeah minus the huge; Democratic vs Republican, Republican vs Libratarians, atheist vs religious, Christians vs Christians, almost everyone confused about what is going on at CERN, and the lolcats

http://i1077.photobucket.com/albums/w480/dphillips9/internets/1351139061111.gif

[WarEagle 1]

It's what I would imagine it be like if everyone from GlockTalk lived in the same area.

:animlol: It would be and I truly believe half of the poster's here are on the show!!:rofl:

[Bren]

wait what ?
social outcast, obese men and guns?
did someone open carry to a comic con convention?

GNG Lounge meet-up.:whistling:

[Glockdude1]

The guy that dropped his pistol. The holster looked liked it had Velcro on it.

The FPG patch was not to hard to get. Even the guy having to do all the push ups got one.

:faint:

[SCHADENFREUDE]

I didn't even know this show existed. I would like to see an episode.

I think if that is how they want to spend their time and they aren't hurting anyone more power to them.

You complain they are fat and out of shape. Maybe this wil spur them to get into better shape. Atleast they are outside and moving and not sitting at a computer screen wasting time.

[gwalchmai]

These kind of shows are intended to show "ordinary people", i.e., anyone other than metrosexuals, as objects of ridicule. All these Discovery network clones (History, DIY, Food, etc., etc., etc.) are run by the same liberals who bring you MTV. They just package it with a little woodsy liquid smoke to make you think it's about something it's not. In their world "militias" are run by racist comic WalMartians so that's the kind of guys they seek out for their shows.

Turn off your TV, read a book, and quit taking any of this crap seriously.

[SC Tiger]

It's what I would imagine it be like if everyone from GlockTalk lived in the same area.

Nah - we'd be too busy fighting over abortion, gay rights to get married, vacuum cleaners, and which car is best to ever work together.

[Aahzz]

I fell asleep before the end. What scares me is what these folks would do in the case of an actual disaster - how many innocents might they kill/injure while trying to "protect" them? What is the potentially trigger-happy FPG going to do in a REAL situation in someone's house?

[scccdoc]

I like the idea of being prepared with food supplies and camping ability as well as self defense. I live in a hurricane prone area. But I'm not doing push-ups for some fat butt who thinks he's Napoleon. Having a plan either solo or with friends is a good idea, but I'm not saluting anyone............... DOC

[KingWalleye]

Civilians aren't under any kind of rule or regulations on this sort of stuff. They give each other the Spaceballs salute, whatever they hell they want. It's not frowned on.....

Gimme some paw...lol!

[RCP]

I fell asleep before the end. What scares me is what these folks would do in the case of an actual disaster - how many innocents might they kill/injure while trying to "protect" them? What is the potentially trigger-happy FPG going to do in a REAL situation in someone's house?

That was kinda my thought as well. Unless you personally knew these guys what are people going to think when an armed group of guys come to "rescue" them as they were preparing to practice in the clip posted?:dunno:

[JW1178]

The fact is that most of these guys playing soldier wouldn't fare any better than anyone else in a SHTF situation. I mean, TSHTF, what are you going to do, run around in a "platoon" fighting.... what?

New Orleans when Katrina hit is an example. Some people went ape-crap and started looting and just going crazy, because they are idiots, but not everyone. The idea is to get away from the idiots. Identify who's who, and stick with the good people. You see a platoon of fat guys in BTU's, they are amongst the idiots.

[bmoore]

Thats half the people on this forum. 100 pounds overweight, CCW everywhere at all times but couldn't block/avoid punch or defend themselves on the ground to literally save their lives.

[G36's Rule]

Thats half the people on this forum. 100 pounds over weight, CCW everywhere at all times but couldn't block/avoid punch or defend themselves on the ground to literally save their lives.

:upeyes:

Why would you post on a forum with such losers?

[Spiffums]

I don't know why you people get sooo upset over this stuff.....you know these are the losers! The people who really do this stuff and truly believe would never tell you or let you tape them for a tv show. It would go against everything they believe in.

The guys in these kinda shows are like the ones with every gun they own in their sig line.

[ilgunguygt]

The fact is that most of these guys playing soldier wouldn't fare any better than anyone else in a SHTF situation. I mean, TSHTF, what are you going to do, run around in a "platoon" fighting.... what?

New Orleans when Katrina hit is an example. Some people went ape-crap and started looting and just going crazy, because they are idiots, but not everyone. The idea is to get away from the idiots. Identify who's who, and stick with the good people. You see a platoon of fat guys in BTU's, they are amongst the idiots.
British Thermal Units? :rofl: Are they stylish?

[Pawcatch@aol.co]

These kind of shows are intended to show "ordinary people", i.e., anyone other than metrosexuals, as objects of ridicule. All these Discovery network clones (History, DIY, Food, etc., etc., etc.) are run by the same liberals who bring you MTV. They just package it with a little woodsy liquid smoke to make you think it's about something it's not. In their world "militias" are run by racist comic WalMartians so that's the kind of guys they seek out for their shows.

Turn off your TV, read a book, and quit taking any of this crap seriously.

I don't agree with that.Sure this show does that,but shows like Swamp People,American Hoggers,and Yukon Men portray outdoors type of people as salt of the earth.

For instance,Swamp People has created a huge interest in Alligator hunting and the rural lifestyle.

[JW1178]

British Thermal Units? :rofl: Are they stylish?

Ha Ha... got me! I assume they are very warm. :rofl:

I don't know why you people get sooo upset over this stuff.....you know these are the losers! The people who really do this stuff and truly believe would never tell you or let you tape them for a tv show. It would go against everything they believe in.

The guys in these kinda shows are like the ones with every gun they own in their sig line.

SO true.

[AlexHassin]

British Thermal Units? :rofl: Are they stylish?

hey when you can figure out how to wear a BTU ill buy, it sounds hot

[Bren]

:upeyes:

Why would you post on a forum with such losers?

Because they are entertaining and Herr Glock collects a lot of interesting news stories. Those are actually my only reasons.

[gwalchmai]

I don't agree with that.Sure this show does that,but shows like Swamp People,American Hoggers,and Yukon Men portray outdoors type of people as salt of the earth.

For instance,Swamp People has created a huge interest in Alligator hunting and the rural lifestyle.I'll have to take your word for that, as I have not had the pleasure of viewing any of these productions. :supergrin:

[Pawcatch@aol.co]

I'll have to take your word for that, as I have not had the pleasure of viewing any of these productions. :supergrin:

Hey,you should have seen how the girls at the Bremen Health Clinic went wild for R.J. and J.Paul from Swamp People when they were there for a publicity tour.

[gwalchmai]

Hey,you should have seen how the girls at the Bremen Health Clinic went wild for R.J. and J.Paul from Swamp People when they were there for a publicity tour.Bremen has a health clinic?

<-- former West GA student :supergrin:

[Glock20 10mm]

:upeyes:

Why would you post on a forum with such losers?

I'll have you know that I am a winner! I win at losing!

[Carrys]

Well, at least it shows us what things wouild be like if the S ever hit the F.


If what we have worry 'bout is guys like this......me thinks we don't have to do much worrying.

But I'm not sure the show actually portrays people doing something the producers don't think very much of................in a decent and true manner.




As always, be prepared to take care of yourself, your neighbors (as you choose), and your family. Try not to join any groups wanting to "patrol" after that good ol' nasty stuff hits the fan, eh?

[scccdoc]

Well, at least it shows us what things wouild be like if the S ever hit the F.


If what we have worry 'bout is guys like this......me thinks we don't have to do much worrying.

But I'm not sure the show actually portrays people doing something the producers don't think very much of................in a decent and true manner.




As always, be prepared to take care of yourself, your neighbors (as you choose), and your family. Try not to join any groups wanting to "patrol" after that good ol' nasty stuff hits the fan, eh?

Does that mean I have to cut the mount for the 50 cal out the back of my truck?:rofl:

[bmoore]

:upeyes:

Why would you post on a forum with such losers?

Because not all are "such losers" as you put it. That was kind of a dumb question.

[G36's Rule]

Because not all are "such losers" as you put it. That was kind of a dumb question.

That was how you put it, not me. Are you saying you just made it up? You don't really know if half the folks here are as you describe?

What does that make you?

[JDO]

That was how you put it, not me. Are you saying you just made it up? You don't really know if half the folks here are as you describe?

What does that make you?


I think most of us know that half the people on here are or would be like that. And if not they wish they could. :tongueout:

Why wouldnt you want to run around in 5.11 pants and an AR or AK. I know most of us are or would.

[JBnTX]

These kind of shows are intended to show "ordinary people", i.e., anyone other than metrosexuals, as objects of ridicule. All these Discovery network clones (History, DIY, Food, etc., etc., etc.) are run by the same liberals who bring you MTV. They just package it with a little woodsy liquid smoke to make you think it's about something it's not. In their world "militias" are run by racist comic WalMartians so that's the kind of guys they seek out for their shows.

Turn off your TV, read a book, and quit taking any of this crap seriously.


You're absolutely right on the hidden agenda to make non liberal white people out to be a bunch of homophobic, gun toting, racist rednecks.

[John Rambo]

Why were their faces washed out?


I don't know about that state, but in this state, I believe what they're doing would be considered illegal.

[RonS]

The mass media hates America and all of the values on which our nation was founded.

Modern television could and would film and edit George Washington at Valley Forge and Omar Bradly at Normandy and make them look like ignorant, bigoted right wing thugs out to take over the world.

Television in this country is pure anti American, anti Christian, anti morality propaganda. Anyone who is not a transnational progressive is protrayed as either evil or an idiot or, if possible, an evil idiot.

And we pay to watch it, buying the rope that is hanging individual liberty and destroying the future of America.

[arclight610]

I don't see what is so outlandish about the idea of militias. Militias during the colonial times had a commander and occasional training. I'll admit, these guys' execution is poor. They want to be play soldier, with doing what it takes to be a soldier. In a real firefight, they would probably die in short order. However, I see a modern-day militia somewhat resembling what's going on there.

[AlexHassin]

I don't see what is so outlandish about the idea of militias. Militias during the colonial times had a commander and occasional training. I'll admit, these guys' execution is poor. They want to be play soldier, with doing what it takes to be a soldier. In a real firefight, they would probably die in short order. However, I see a modern-day militia somewhat resembling what's going on there.

maybe a good idea, but i get the feeling from those that saw it and the clip they are poorly executing it. i kind of want to see it now, to see for myself.

[WarCry]

The mass media hates America and all of the values on which our nation was founded.

Modern television could and would film and edit George Washington at Valley Forge and Omar Bradly at Normandy and make them look like ignorant, bigoted right wing thugs out to take over the world.

Television in this country is pure anti American, anti Christian, anti morality propaganda. Anyone who is not a transnational progressive is protrayed as either evil or an idiot or, if possible, an evil idiot.

And we pay to watch it, buying the rope that is hanging individual liberty and destroying the future of America.

So where were you in the show, then?


Come on, this is just nuts. Unless you expect all television broadcasts to be right-wing propaganda films, you would say the same thing. Not everyone that lives in this country believes in the same things as you. That's the right of ALL Americans - to believe what they want.

And you also mentioned two completely unrelated things. You don't have to be Christian to be American. If you think it's unAmerican to be be non-Christian, then you are plainly and simply SOL.


And, for the record, I've watched TONS of documentaries on both Washington and Bradley. Never once have I seen them portrayed the way you make it out.

You make a very compelling case for why people should be wary - not necessarily afraid, but wary - of the self-righteous "militia" groups.

[oldman11]

I seriously doubt that any of those guys were ever in the military. And if any were, they weren't with a fighting unit.

[Lockback]

it doesnt matter...these are just guys that couldnt get their computers to download world of warcraft.

:rofl:

[HollowHead]

The mass media hates America and all of the values on which our nation was founded.

Modern television could and would film and edit George Washington at Valley Forge and Omar Bradly at Normandy and make them look like ignorant, bigoted right wing thugs out to take over the world.

Television in this country is pure anti American, anti Christian, anti morality propaganda. Anyone who is not a transnational progressive is protrayed as either evil or an idiot or, if possible, an evil idiot.

And we pay to watch it, buying the rope that is hanging individual liberty and destroying the future of America.

And that's just Monday Night Football! HH

[Hailstorm]

OK, so they are wannabees. Not everyone served, but they are doing something now.

Guess it would be better if they just got back on their Xboxes?


I am gonna say no. Let them train and have fun. If they are not hurting anyone. All is good. Now, the clip I saw. DIdn't make the Militia seem like anti government wackos. Just some guys training and shooting guns. Which means, even if one person watches this and says. I guess the media is wrong for calling every group a militia. Then this is a win for us.

Some people just want to feel like they belong to something bigger than themselves. I would rather see them doing this than doing a clan battle online or worse yet. getting involved in something illegal.

These are just my thoughts and don't mean jack, take it for what is worth

[farmer-dave]

I'm all for guys that like to camp out and shoot guns, but these guys just need to step a little back from the camoflage and realize that they really just make themselves look like goofballs. I used to play dress up when I was a kid but I sort of just felt sorry for them.

[Tx-SIG229]

the guy that was 11B and spent 4 days in Ranger school before getting injured looked like he was the class instructor... yelling at the others etc. then at the end ... did i miss something or did he ALSO earn his badge like the others? so what the heck was mensa guy talking about wanting only the 'best of the best' ? it was basically 'you get what you get'.

[JW1178]

OK, so they are wannabees. Not everyone served, but they are doing something now.

Guess it would be better if they just got back on their Xboxes?


I am gonna say no. Let them train and have fun. If they are not hurting anyone. All is good. Now, the clip I saw. DIdn't make the Militia seem like anti government wackos. Just some guys training and shooting guns. Which means, even if one person watches this and says. I guess the media is wrong for calling every group a militia. Then this is a win for us.

Some people just want to feel like they belong to something bigger than themselves. I would rather see them doing this than doing a clan battle online or worse yet. getting involved in something illegal.

These are just my thoughts and don't mean jack, take it for what is worth

You have a point there.

When I was a kid, probably about 12, my friends and I formed a gang. A neighborhood gang. Lol. We had a secret handshake and everything. What's funny is although we were really just joking, people wanted to join in.

But we were 12.....

[Clutch Cargo]

Isn't that generally frowned upon....civilians saluting?

Negative. It is within protocol boundaries for veterans to salute. I salute during the playing of the National Anthem. Veterans EARNED the right to salute.

[Kevinr20]

Negative. It is within protocol boundaries for veterans to salute. I salute during the playing of the National Anthem. Veterans EARNED the right to salute.

I should have clarified. Civilians with no prior military background. I know I've read somewhere (possibly here) that general etiquette says civilians shouldn't salute. Even presidents saluting is a relatively new thing.

http://blogs.reuters.com/talesfromthetrail/2008/12/24/to-salute-or-not-to-salute-thats-obamas-question/

[owl6roll]

I bet the alphabet of law enforcement, has info on everone of them.

[Arc Angel]

:upeyes: I watched that show, too. It seemed like those guys were playing, 'cowboys and indians' all over again; only this time while carrying real guns and wearing BDU camouflage. All that was missing were the ten gallon hats, tommyhawks, and feathered headdresses.

Which, to my mind, is just another episode in the latest - and most sophisticated - organized media attacks on guns and our valuable Second Amendment rights that I, personally, have ever watched the national news and entertainment media conduct. All of these televised, 'firearm soap operas' make all of us who own guns appear to be a bunch of violence prone, and essentially self-destructive, red-necked fools.

It worries me that the organized news and entertainment media might actually get farther in dissuading the general American public away from owning guns and cherishing their Second Amendment rights with THIS most subtle and most sophisticated attack on firearms ownership AND the people who own guns than anything else I've ever watched the, 'brave new world/thousand points-of-light' television people do. :freak:




NOTE: Contrary to popular internet gun forum logic (or the lack thereof) flagrant, 'in your face' open carry doesn't help to support firearms ownership and use, either. :shame:

[390ish]

Have not seen the show. I would guess they are guys with jobs they don't like and don't have a girlfriend or have a wife/girlfriend that is fatter and less interesting than themselves. I guess everyone needs a hobby. It's not for me, but it looks like more fun than playing golf.

[uptomyneck]

I noticed that Colonel Fatbody with the Indiana Militia had USMC Recon jump wings. I doubted that he earned them at first. Then I saw that perfect PLF he made down the hill and now I stand corrected. Sum***** nailed it.

[cowboy1964]

Yep, pretty embarassing for the most part. I have respect for the ex-military like the guy that was injured during training and got discharged but the rest are GI-Joe Wannabes. I like the border watch guy that kicked the backpack in frustration after the illegals got away. Not a good sign.

[mikeflys1]

OK, so they are wannabees. Not everyone served, but they are doing something now.

Guess it would be better if they just got back on their Xboxes?


I am gonna say no. Let them train and have fun. If they are not hurting anyone. All is good. Now, the clip I saw. DIdn't make the Militia seem like anti government wackos. Just some guys training and shooting guns. Which means, even if one person watches this and says. I guess the media is wrong for calling every group a militia. Then this is a win for us.

Some people just want to feel like they belong to something bigger than themselves. I would rather see them doing this than doing a clan battle online or worse yet. getting involved in something illegal.

These are just my thoughts and don't mean jack, take it for what is worth

This.

[series1811]

GNG Lounge meet-up.:whistling:

:supergrin:

But, I did see one kind of hot girl. It wouldn't be a total waste to hang out with these guys.

[mac66]

I saw the show and found it interesting. Yeah, fat guys in fatigues is kind of goofy but when you look at it what they are doing it makes sense.

If you go to the Watchmen Militia website, they talk about working with the production company on this project. They are proud of it and intended it to be free of media bias found in most shows about militia. I have to say that I didn't hear anything negative in the show, people perceptions about fat guys running around in the woods playing army not withstanding.

BTW, I am not, nor have I ever been in a militia. I have nothing to do with any, nor do I know anyone in one at least that I am aware of.

Historically militias were formed as a community protection group against, indians, raiders, marauders, pirates etc. With modern police forces and the national guard one could argue they are no longer needed.

On the other hand, federal, state and local governments have been pushing for people to be better prepared and responsible for their own emergency response for the last 10 years. They have created volunteers groups like CERT (Community Emergency Response Teams), Neighborhood Watch and similar groups to help local authorities deal with emergencies. The Watchmen Militia (the guys in the show say they are not racists or anti government). If that is the case then what they are doing reflects the trend toward volunteer emergency responders.

I think the Watchmen they showed in Arizona have some issues. The guys in Indiana and Florida seemed to be more about helping each other and the community.

Second, from an emergency management standpoint (I used to do that for living) these guys are way of ahead of the game. You can mock them because they are fat, wear camo and act like wanna-bees, but they are actually doing something unlike most people. They have a plan(s), they are preparing and most importantly they actually practice. They also have a group of like minded people. All those things are huge in terms of surviving a crisis.

So make fun of them if you want but they are a step ahead of most of us and way ahead of just about everybody else.

[Glock20 10mm]

I saw the show and found it interesting. Yeah, fat guys in fatigues is kind of goofy but when you look at it what they are doing it makes sense.

Let me qualify the following by saying I am not nor have I ever been in a militia. I have nothing to do with any, nor do I know anyone in one at least that I am aware of.

First, historically militias were formed as a community protection group against, indians, raiders, marauders, pirates etc. With modern police forces and the national guard you could argue they are no longer needed.

On the other hand, federal, state and local governments have been pushing for people to be better prepared and responsible for their own emergency response. They have created volunteers groups like CERT (Community Emergency Response Teams), Neighborhood Watch and similar groups to help local authorities deal with emergencies. The Watchmen Militia (the guys in the show say they are not racists or anti government). If that is the case then what they are doing reflects the trend toward volunteer emergency responders.

Second, from an emergency management standpoint (I used to do that for living) these guys are way of ahead of the game. You can mock them because they are fat, wear camo and act like wanna-bees, but they are actually doing something unlike most people. They have a plan(s), they are preparing and most importantly they actually practice. They also have a group of like minded people. All those things are huge in terms of surviving a crisis.

So make fun of them if you want but they are a step ahead of most of us.

While we are not forming a militia you do bring up several points that I have just experienced first hand. The local Sheriff has made it clear we are on our own where I live. We are putting together a citizens patrol, I am on duty tonight after work. We are establishing an emergency response team, first responders in the event of a medical event.

Laugh all ya want... and sure it is kind of funny watching them, but look at what happened with Katrina. People learn (sometimes...) and while these guys might be fat, might be what ever disparaging remark you might have for them, should the need arise at least they have a unit with some semblance of cohesion to work for the greater good of the community. And THAT is part of what community is.

[mac66]

While we are not forming a militia you do bring up several points that I have just experienced first hand. The local Sheriff has made it clear we are on our own where I live. We are putting together a citizens patrol, I am on duty tonight after work. We are establishing an emergency response team, first responders in the event of a medical event.

Laugh all ya want... and sure it is kind of funny watching them, but look at what happened with Katrina. People learn (sometimes...) and while these guys might be fat, might be what ever disparaging remark you might have for them, should the need arise at least they have a unit with some semblance of cohesion to work for the greater good of the community. And THAT is part of what community is.

Exactly. Not all of us are high speed low drag. You guys, and the guys on the show are at least organized and willing to help each other which is way more than most people do.

[SCHADENFREUDE]

Although I have no doubt that the men of the time of our founding were for the most part in better shape then Americans today it is silly to think they were super secret delta ninjas. They were the average guy in the neighborhood trying to protect their Friends and neighbors from Indians or the British/French.

Threads like these just give the people sitting behind a computer with a boring life a chance to puff themselves up. I would propose a show with the keyboard commando versus the fat militia guys. I would pay to see that.

[JDO]

Well guys thanks for making me feel like a jerk.

[AZLawDawg]

:supergrin:

But, I did see one kind of hot girl. It wouldn't be a total waste to hang out with these guys.

With the glasses? Yep, I noticed her too :)

[vart]

I felt really bad for the guys in Indiana. That "Colonel" had some serious psychological issues.

Anyone that would let him boss them around like that likely also has some emotional problems...

Guys in AZ are going to get themselves shot up by drug cartel members. People in Florida had the right attitude and goals and least mentally unstable leaders.

[frizz]

While we are not forming a militia you do bring up several points that I have just experienced first hand. The local Sheriff has made it clear we are on our own where I live. We are putting together a citizens patrol, I am on duty tonight after work. We are establishing an emergency response team, first responders in the event of a medical event.

Laugh all ya want... and sure it is kind of funny watching them, but look at what happened with Katrina. People learn (sometimes...) and while these guys might be fat, might be what ever disparaging remark you might have for them, should the need arise at least they have a unit with some semblance of cohesion to work for the greater good of the community. And THAT is part of what community is.
Let's say my neighbors got together during civil unrest/mass looting after, say, a hurricane. A decent-shooting fat guy (or gal) could be very effective firing a deer rifle from cover.

Even an armed looting gang would likely look for another area if one of their members hit the ground after a 30-30 round passed through his right lung.

Big Boy may not be what you want for attack maneuvering, but a sentry or roadblock doesn't need to be swift of foot, or even able to walk.

If I were a looter, I wouldn't want to try to go against a paraplegic who is handy with a rifle.

[vart]

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[Glock20 10mm]

Let's say my neighbors got together during civil unrest/mass looting after, say, a hurricane. A decent-shooting fat guy (or gal) could be very effective firing a deer rifle from cover.

Even an armed looting gang would likely look for another area if one of their members hit the ground after a 30-30 round passed through his right lung.

Big Boy may not be what you want for attack maneuvering, but a sentry or roadblock doesn't need to be swift of foot, or even able to walk.

If I were a looter, I wouldn't want to try to go against a paraplegic who is handy with a rifle.

And generally that is how most modern militia's would be used in my opinion. They would be broke down into several unit types.

Sappers / Scavengers: Young strong and agile, these folks would be the mobile strike and recon units as well a used for light duty resources gathering.

Front Guard: Older more experienced shooters that are less mobile for what ever reasons. Primary function is to cover a retreat as well a provide long range harassment fire for a sapper unit.

Read Guard: Less mobile shooters set up along key choke points. Primary function is to disrupt looters and other undesirables from concealed positions. By using interlocking fields of fire with random firing patters it would be effective in disorienting and demoralizing an unorganized group.

Base Guard: Just as the name implies these are people that cannot deploy for what ever reason but can maintain post watch for compound protection.

These are just some ideas in the event of a defensive shooting need.

[unit1069]

The Radical Left and its organs of hate and propaganda will focus on fringe elements to whip up public fear, and this is but one example. Overweight "militia" groups running around in the woods preparing for the end of days is nothing new but you won't find the Rad apparatchiks reporting on the miniscule numbers of participants in these weekend follies.

It's the same with the KKK, where Rad screamers like Morris Dees, NAACP, and various special interest groups try to blow up a mole hill into a mountain. There are about 3,000 members of all KKK factions in America, about the equivalent of the number of Crips who threaten Los Angeles. And this doesn't even consider the tens of thousands of other gangs in LA and throughout America who pose a dire threat to all of us.

Get to the polls on Nov. 6th and vote Republican. After that demand that Republicans conduct extensive and thorough investigations into the incestuous Government/Media coordination of propaganda and how Rad special interest groups take taxpayer funds to advance anti-American agendas. Don't let a Republican sweep turn into a "me too" sloughing off of responsibility for cleaning up the cesspool that neo-Marxist ideology has created in our great country.

[owl6roll]

White powdery doughnuts....

[Snaps]

hell I'll watch it

[reelnative]

I live in fla and the bad part is if 30 of those armed guys tryed to come rescue me and my fam, there would be 30 dead guys in my front yard, what a joke, and that one guy barking out orders, he works at our walmart as a night stock person

[gwalchmai]

Wow, you can kill 30 guys? That's pretty impressive.

[NEOH212]

Most of the militia trainees were obese, out of shape and had a general appearance that lacked professionalism.


My county Sheriffs office belongs to the militia? :whistling:

On a serious note, take a look at most of the people that join joke organizations like that and tell me if you'd expect anything less.

They probably spend most of their time sitting around talking about the crap they listen to on the Alex Jones show while they are getting drunk and eating pork rinds.


Wolverines

Viva la Resistance!

:upeyes::upeyes::upeyes::upeyes:


(Pssst, I don't think you ever have to worry about taking any of those guys seriously....:whistling:)

[mike g35]

Somebody throws a shotgun at me I'm going to catch it and then beat them to death with it!!! LOL That clip was too funny but at least they're outdoors enjoying themselves. Don't be a bunch of haters, let the tactards be tactards. LOL


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[reelnative]

Wow, you can kill 30 guys? That's pretty impressive.


well we have a 150 yard kill zone cleared around the ranch, with 1 saw 2 l1a1 s and 2 ar15 s with intersecting fields of fire, if we let 30 of those clowns get to the 50yrd line yea im sure we could desamate them in about 15 to 30 seconds maby a bit longer if they got spread out a bit but looking how they operated im pretty sure it would be over quick. Im all for people staying up on being ready for and if the shtf thing ever happens, and for getting together and shooting and having a good time out in the woods, but when these retards think they are gonna step off on to other peoples land and do recons on them well there time on this earth might be limited, I dont know about the rest of the USA but down here in s fla out in the woods we all know our neighbors and we all stick together, there is no need for wanna be GI joes, these guys are from the city and want to feel like men because they have been neutered by there wifes or were they work or by they choices they made in life, like a poster said before, this is what the libtards want to make us normal white americans look like, this is like that hunny boo boo crap show that my wife told me about.

[gwalchmai]

Forget about killing 30 guys, I'm impressed that you can say all that in one breath. :shocked:

[HollowHead]

well we have a 150 yard kill zone cleared around the ranch, with 1 saw 2 l1a1 s and 2 ar15 s with intersecting fields of fire, if we let 30 of those clowns get to the 50yrd line yea im sure we could desamate them in about 15 to 30 seconds maby a bit longer if they got spread out a bit but looking how they operated im pretty sure it would be over quick. Im all for people staying up on being ready for and if the shtf thing ever happens, and for getting together and shooting and having a good time out in the woods, but when these retards think they are gonna step off on to other peoples land and do recons on them well there time on this earth might be limited, I dont know about the rest of the USA but down here in s fla out in the woods we all know our neighbors and we all stick together, there is no need for wanna be GI joes, these guys are from the city and want to feel like men because they have been neutered by there wifes or were they work or by they choices they made in life, like a poster said before, this is what the libtards want to make us normal white americans look like, this is like that hunny boo boo crap show that my wife told me about.

Why not just read this verbatim over a public address system at them?

[M&P Shooter]

If I joined a Militia I would want the leader to be 2bb's:whistling:

[HollowHead]

If I joined a Militia I would want the leader to be 2bb's:whistling:

A militia whose leader was the love child of Alfred10 and Readthesenikes would indeed be a formidable force. HH

[reelnative]

Why not just read this verbatim over a public address system at them?


hahaha i would worry about letting the cat out of the bag hollowhead but I live in the middle of a 1600 acre area and those type of people or other bad people would have to battle about 700 plus acres of property owners to get to me so im not really worried, in a real case about 400 to 600 of us (neighbors) would be manning our intry points on swamp buggies, 4 wheelers, trucks, and on foot, so really nothing like that would ever happen out here, I feel very safe were i live and sleep very well at night, I really do feel bad for the people that live in the citys and the close outer areas, they will have a hard time dealing with bad things if they ever happen

[Glockdude1]

A militia whose leader was the love child of Alfred10 and Readthesenikes would indeed be a formidable force. HH

Private parts and Major flatulence..........

:tongueout:

[lunarspeak]

hahaha i would worry about letting the cat out of the bag hollowhead but I live in the middle of a 1600 acre area and those type of people or other bad people would have to battle about 700 plus acres of property owners to get to me so im not really worried, in a real case about 400 to 600 of us (neighbors) would be manning our intry points on swamp buggies, 4 wheelers, trucks, and on foot, so really nothing like that would ever happen out here, I feel very safe were i live and sleep very well at night, I really do feel bad for the people that live in the citys and the close outer areas, they will have a hard time dealing with bad things if they ever happen

sorry but your plan sucks....first of all do these 600 people know your plan?..how many will go with your plan..how many would fight to be in charge....how many will choose not to man a entry point on a swamp buggie but will be guarding thier own ranch (whitch it seems that people who own large tracts of land seem to be anal about protecting every little bit of)...how many ranchers in your army has ever shot at someone...or been shoot at?

and im sorry 600 people could not know each other..any bad guy could just ride a tracter inside your "safety zone" and pass himself off as a rancher..heck in 1600 acres he could just sneak in...

and who are those people your defending yourself from,,,people outside your zone that are looters..ok but how about those families that are trying to escape what evers happening.if one of your farmhand army shoots some starving kid im betting your group will start to have some in fighting.

and one more thing...have you run background checks on these 600 people? lets let the guy with several DUI charges watch the south gate while the guy that is a reg sex offender run rolling patrols on foot.

and all those people that you feel sorry for in the city,,,they will prob be heading your way looking for food.and a farm or ranch sounds like prime targets...they will also be comeing in the thousands and alot will be desperate..and some will be well trained thanks to our large vet population, so its not going to just be some young thug banging on your door in his bright clothes but a guy in camo that did a tour or two in iraq with a high power rifle.

man some of you guys live in a fantasy world:rofl:

[gwalchmai]

I'd bet that Washington's army had its share of idjits and ne'er do wells.

[reelnative]

sorry but your plan sucks....first of all do these 600 people know your plan?..how many will go with your plan..how many would fight to be in charge....how many will choose not to man a entry point on a swamp buggie but will be guarding thier own ranch (whitch it seems that people who own large tracts of land seem to be anal about protecting every little bit of)...how many ranchers in your army has ever shot at someone...or been shoot at?

and im sorry 600 people could not know each other..any bad guy could just ride a tracter inside your "safety zone" and pass himself off as a rancher..heck in 1600 acres he could just sneak in...

and who are those people your defending yourself from,,,people outside your zone that are looters..ok but how about those families that are trying to escape what evers happening.if one of your farmhand army shoots some starving kid im betting your group will start to have some in fighting.

and one more thing...have you run background checks on these 600 people? lets let the guy with several DUI charges watch the south gate while the guy that is a reg sex offender run rolling patrols on foot.

and all those people that you feel sorry for in the city,,,they will prob be heading your way looking for food.and a farm or ranch sounds like prime targets...they will also be comeing in the thousands and alot will be desperate..and some will be well trained thanks to our large vet population, so its not going to just be some young thug banging on your door in his bright clothes but a guy in camo that did a tour or two in iraq with a high power rifle.

man some of you guys live in a fantasy world:rofl:


yea I guess your right, I hope i can keep living in my fantasy for a little while longer, I guess when all those bad people come for my stuff ill just give it to them, and ill also roll over and grab each ass cheek,hahaha ok ill stop posting here I can see this is gonna start to head off a cliff