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USMCsilver
10-25-2012, 20:31
I've got a handful of lowers I need to replace the sling mount on.

Problem is that I have this:

http://images2.opticsplanet.com/365-240-ffffff/opplanet-specter-gear-g-g-g-ar-15-m-16-receiver-sling-mount-rectangular-type.jpg

I had nylon webbed leaders with plastic buckes hanging on the rifles. I also had two slings. Well...I moved and somewhere, somehow the slings lost.

I'm wanting to ditch the mount and get something like this:

http://www.bowerstactical.com/store/images/MAG500.jpg
(Well, that is what I think I want.)

Anything special I should go for? Why suggest an alternative to my preferrence? I mean...what's the reasoning behind it?

I need to outfit multiple lowers, so cost is somewhat of a concern as far as the mounts go (or, then again, maybe not because I can buy one or two at a time). Of course, I'll need a sling (or three) to use with the new mounts.

So -- in essence -- what sling? What mount? Why?

Go. :wavey:

LA_357SIG
10-25-2012, 20:41
I only use 2 point slings. G.I. nylon and VTAC padded. I tried the single point sling for a while, they aren't hands free friendly like 2 point slings. I found QD mounts in the rear of the handguard and on the stock the best setup for me.
http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k252/chrisq_01/1289658382.jpg

mjkeat
10-25-2012, 20:48
2 point - padded Blue Force

WoodenPlank
10-25-2012, 20:49
I only use 2 point slings. G.I. nylon and VTAC padded. I tried the single point sling for a while, they aren't hands free friendly like 2 point slings. I found QD mounts in the rear of the handguard and on the stock the best setup for me.


Sums up my experiences nicely. Once you take a couple shots to the groin from your rifle swinging freely on a single point, you'll seriously reconsider.

Also, the ASAP is noisily obnoxious.

Brian Brazier
10-25-2012, 20:51
SKT 2pt Sling http://www.rainierarms.com/?page=shop/detail&product_id=2228 locally made, one of the best 2pt slings on the market, and if you dont have qd sling cups there are adapters

Fwdftw
10-25-2012, 20:53
VTAC with a noveske QD end plate.. Although ive recently moved to using the STR's QD slot instead.

AK_Stick
10-25-2012, 21:21
Sums up my experiences nicely. Once you take a couple shots to the groin from your rifle swinging freely on a single point, you'll seriously reconsider.

Also, the ASAP is noisily obnoxious.



They really, are only ideal for certain situations. My MS-2 stays in 2-point config for 99% of its use.


To the OP, I use padded BFG 2 points on most of my guns. But my HD gun has an MS-2.


Prefer the BFG.

Cole125
10-25-2012, 21:32
Also, the ASAP is noisily obnoxious.

I agree. Look into the I kick Hippies sling plate, IMO one of the best on the market.

NeverMore1701
10-25-2012, 21:56
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-jbCbbebRwNU/T-pXRmYv3bI/AAAAAAAAAvY/mb8d0wvdd5s/s1600/IMG_3498.JPG

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-docw40rYV58/T-pXScWwoNI/AAAAAAAAAvg/HmDXBYjiJwo/s1600/IMG_3499.JPG

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-Rve5aGdYiTY/T-pXTPFN_cI/AAAAAAAAAvo/UcwSvtA6-7w/s1600/IMG_3500.JPG

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-JAOsyUDtJCE/T-pXUAO8h7I/AAAAAAAAAvw/WyiiNOjNdN8/s1600/IMG_3502.JPG

NeverMore1701
10-25-2012, 21:58
Agree that the ASAP is retardedly loud, mine lasted maybe a week.

Fwdftw
10-25-2012, 22:12
Yep. Tried the Asap.. Sold the Asap. lol

People who run the 2 pt, along with the QD reciever plate. Does the sling not interfere with your cheek weld.. God knows mine did.

NeverMore1701
10-25-2012, 22:13
Yep. Tried the Asap.. Sold the Asap. lol

People who run the 2 pt, along with the QD reciever plate. Does the sling not interfere with your cheek weld.. God knows mine did.

Not at all.

bmoore
10-25-2012, 22:18
Magpul MS3.

TactiCool
10-25-2012, 22:24
2/3 pnt. slings suck for doing transitions. I run an ms3 w/ asap. I'm never going back.

Bodyarmorguy
10-25-2012, 22:27
Vickers padded VCAS from Blue Force Gear....only way to go.

WayaX
10-25-2012, 22:35
VCAS and VTAC are the only slings I'd ever consider. I've gone the single-point route, and while I appreciate them for certain applications, I always come back to my VCAS slings.

fnfalman
10-25-2012, 23:05
The GI sling. It works for slinging the rifle across my back. Otherwise the gun is in my hands.

Cochese
10-25-2012, 23:14
MS3QD with a Noveske endplate and either an MSA or Troy/Noveske QD mount. Damage Industries swivel.

faawrenchbndr
10-26-2012, 01:59
Larue Tactical, padded, two point, QD sling

Butcher
10-26-2012, 04:51
Vickers padded VCAS from Blue Force Gear....only way to go.

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Big Bird
10-26-2012, 06:42
I run a Vickers sling as well. Have both a padded and non-padded sling. The padded sling makes carrying the gun all day hanging on your shoulder a bit easier.

I also use Noveske QD endplates on all my ARs. The Magpul endplate sucks--save your money. You'll find between the stupid ring and the hook style hardware you;ll need to attach your sling it constantly ineterferes with your pistol grip hand.

I have QD slots on all my rails close to the receiver as well.

Fwdftw
10-26-2012, 06:43
Fyi i use centurion rails , they have built in slots as well

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TedG
10-26-2012, 06:51
A simple IDF 2-point sling.

fuzzy03cls
10-26-2012, 07:09
2 points. I use a Blue Force Gear one & also condor. The condor slings are very tough & work very well. Last through a few classes & hard shoots. The BFG sucks IMHO, it feels like a shoelace. Way to thin.

FnKev
10-26-2012, 07:38
2 point padded VCAS is definitely the way to go.

Bren
10-26-2012, 08:13
OP, single-point slings work great...as long as you aren't using them for slings. As slings, they let the weapon swing and bounce all over, hit and tangle in everything, including your arms and legs, and if you use them to hold the weapon during a longgun to handgun transition, the rifle will hit you square in the nuts 99.3% of the time. Then, if you are perfectly still so your rifle doesn't swing around like crazy, it still doesn't hold it in the most useful position.

I have actually used a Spec-Ops Lone Star single-point sling on my issued M4, but I never used it the way it was intended. If you put the quick release clips on your front and rear swivels then you can use the extra female quick release on the sling, so it can be connected at the front and used like a 2-point sling or both can be releeased and you can hook the rear to one of those short straps spec ops makes that lets you hang the rifle directly from your body armor. However, that isn't really a good solution unless you wear an IBA/OTV.

Chuck TX
10-26-2012, 08:28
RMT slings and Noveske QD end plates.

TangoFoxtrot
10-27-2012, 04:52
Magpul MS3 for me. I get the best of both worlds, 1 or 2 point.

Hamrhed
10-27-2012, 08:37
It works for slinging the rifle across my back. Otherwise the gun is in my hands.
Bingo... I run an AK- Bulgarian 2 pt sling

WoodenPlank
10-27-2012, 08:50
2/3 pnt. slings suck for doing transitions. I run an ms3 w/ asap. I'm never going back.


Then I would say you didn't have your 2-point set up correctly.

TNGlockman
10-27-2012, 08:58
Magpul MS3 with ASAP mount on both of my ARs.

G19freak
10-27-2012, 09:10
The nylon strap that came with the gun---Colt 6920

MrMurphy
10-27-2012, 09:15
LaRue VTAC variant with QD sockets.

I'd use the padded version but it didn't exist at the time.

mjkeat
10-27-2012, 09:19
LaRue VTAC variant with QD sockets.

I'd use the padded version but it didn't exist at the time.

I have the padded version. It's nice.

geauxbubba
10-27-2012, 09:34
VTAC with wide padding.

http://www.vikingtactics.com/videos/pop-instr_video1_sling.html

FireForged
10-27-2012, 10:40
Home made 2 point sling.

1/2" Bungie
550 para cord
hydration tube cover
2 ranger bands
2 hooks

FireForged
10-27-2012, 10:46
Sums up my experiences nicely. Once you take a couple shots to the groin from your rifle swinging freely on a single point, you'll seriously reconsider.

Also, the ASAP is noisily obnoxious.

i agree.. a single point is worthless if you have to transition to your secondary and run.. and I dont mean the "Tacticle shuffle" I mean run!

If I cant get the rifle behind me when I want... its not a good sling for my system. Not saying that there isnt a place for a sing point and they do look cool.. its just not part of my system.

seamaster
10-27-2012, 20:54
I use a KZ single point with mash hook on one of my AR's and a standard GI sling on another.

The single point is good for range games but I agree with the others who say it doesn't let you run without holding the rifle.

My kiss rifle has a standard GI sling left long. I carry it on my left shoulder muzzle down. I don't have any issues slinging it across my back and transitioning to pistol. Although if it has a 30 rd mag in it could/has jabed me in the back.

SNH Glocks
10-27-2012, 21:04
On most of my modern long guns and all my ARs I use Blackhawk Universal Tactical slings. Cheap to buy (under $10) and well made they do the trick for me.

Cole125
10-27-2012, 22:06
Magpul MS3 for me. I get the best of both worlds, 1 or 2 point.

+1 MS3 for me as well. Great setup.

steve1911
10-28-2012, 02:10
LaRue VTAC variant with QD sockets.

I'd use the padded version but it didn't exist at the time.

This, padded version, works great.




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NEOH212
10-28-2012, 04:52
VTAC here.

fivestar
10-28-2012, 14:08
Padded VTAC on my patrol rifle, and a regular VTAC on my other rifle.

Travclem
10-28-2012, 15:07
I use an MS3 with the IKH end plate and Magpul RSA. I had the ASAP plate for a few months but it made entirely too much racket.

Made Man
10-28-2012, 17:05
MS3 with RSA and ASAP.

Sent from up range, at about 3100 fps

SCSU74
10-28-2012, 23:31
Padded vtac on patrol rifle. Regular vtac on ak


Sent from my iPhone... which probably auto-corrected something wrong

SCSU74
10-28-2012, 23:35
2/3 pnt. slings suck for doing transitions. I run an ms3 w/ asap. I'm never going back.

You should probably run to a class and have them instruct you on how to setup/use a 2 point sling. Asaps are garbage


Sent from my iPhone... which probably auto-corrected something wrong

WARRIOR13
10-28-2012, 23:51
Padded VTAC

cowboy1964
10-29-2012, 06:57
Padded VTAC here also. It's a little "busy" and mine didn't come with the "keeper" but all in all it works well. It really needs side attachment though to work to its full potential.

Warp
10-29-2012, 13:33
Padded VCAS here.

http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g105/austin3161324/Firearms/20121014_181135_zps637ec590.jpg

joerenew
10-30-2012, 08:51
vtac with a noveske qd end plate.. Although ive recently moved to using the str's qd slot instead.
+1!!!!

owl6roll
10-31-2012, 01:32
2 point padded VCAS is definitely the way to go.




Yuuup!

cowboy1964
10-31-2012, 06:08
Padded VCAS here.

http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g105/austin3161324/Firearms/20121014_181135_zps637ec590.jpg

I'm wondering about rear mounting... does it work better mounted toward the top of the buttstock or near the bottom? I would think as close to inline with the front mount the better but maybe it doesn't make a whole lot of difference.

Same question for the front mount... as far back as possible or more forward? I'm thinking far back, especially with a carbine handguard.

(Nice rig BTW)

Warp
10-31-2012, 12:05
I'm wondering about rear mounting... does it work better mounted toward the top of the buttstock or near the bottom? I would think as close to inline with the front mount the better but maybe it doesn't make a whole lot of difference.

Same question for the front mount... as far back as possible or more forward? I'm thinking far back, especially with a carbine handguard.

(Nice rig BTW)

That is the only position I have tried on a rifle of this type.

For the front mount I definitely like it where it is. Further forward and I risk hand/sling inconsistency. Putting it back like that keeps it completely free of my support hand.

I've read a lot of reviews/opinions/feedback on the sling mounting points. The main advantage I have noticed to having the rear mount where it is: The rifle naturally points straight down at rest and is thus less likely than any other position to sweep another person. However, there are times when walking around, especially when squatting down to pick something up or work down low, that it is far more convenient to swing the muzzle up so that the barrel above the knee/outside of my support leg, and that kind of manipulation would probably be a lot easier if the rear attachment point was, say, a receiver end plate.

I'm no .mil or LEO or anything, just some guy, so I don't get/have to do a whole lot with a slung rifle. I have carried it around the house, my backyard, at the range/gun shop, and through town to get between my car and the range. I also 'sling up' when shooting for all positions (standing, seated, kneeling, prone, and seated at a bench), including transitioning between standing and prone/seated/kneeling. In other words...I have relatively little experience moving around and generally doing stuff with it. Just enough to have formed a small opinion.

MakeMineA10mm
11-03-2012, 21:23
I use the Wilderness Products Giles Sling, but I'm an old guy... I must say, I'm a huge fan of Larry Vickers, but the VCAS is a Giles Sling with a handle and better padding. Those ARE improvements, and BFG sells them for $10 less than Wilderness, so I may be getting a padded VCAS for the next black rifle project.