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40frank
10-26-2012, 08:31
I am hoping for suggestions. I have searched and found the buyer's guide and other great threads, kind of hoping for a fresh prospective (I know the info hasn't changed much, but maybe there is someone out there with new experiences).

My problem is I have tried 1911's in the past but must have had bad luck. I had a Springfield Champion that was nothing but a headache. I had a Kimber custom II that was just as bad. Both had to be returned to the factory for repairs, I sold them both. This has lead me to not trust 1911s. I have been envious of people who own them without any problems. In early 1990s while in the military, I was in a unit that still had some Colt 1911s. These things worked, and that is where my interest was peaked.

I really want to own a 1911 and would love suggestions for a full size with ambi safeties. Thanks for your time and patience. Frank.

bac1023
10-26-2012, 08:53
What's your budget, Frank?

bruzer
10-26-2012, 08:57
This is only my thoughts, I am no expert. You have had experience with Colt 1911 from the military. If they were like most weapons that I encountered they were VERY well used and broke in. That is one reason they worked so well. Start looking for a well used and broke in 1911, get it for a good price and you will be happy for many years. Then pass it on down to your kids or grandchildren.
Good luck and stay safe,
Mike

glock2740
10-26-2012, 08:59
Thinking about giving the 1911 another try
Oh please don't. :faint:

JK :tongueout:

Welcome back to the 1911 addiction Frank. :wavey:

40frank
10-26-2012, 09:30
What's your budget, Frank?

Around $1000, can go up to 1200 if I need too.

ArmoryDoc
10-26-2012, 09:39
All the Colts I've ever owned have worked from the get-go. You could buy a Series 80 and have an ambi put on it for very reasonable, and have a great resale if you ever decided to move it. Colts are built for use and don't have those excessivly tight tolerances that can cause issue. And mine are accurate right ou of the box. Just a thought.

Tophatter
10-26-2012, 09:57
At that price point I'd agree with trying to shop around for a Colt. You don't want a bank vault tight 1911 unless it comes out of Iowa.

Rinspeed
10-26-2012, 10:11
Around $1000, can go up to 1200 if I need too.





Used TRP or Valor.

glock2740
10-26-2012, 10:37
Used TRP or Valor.
I agree.

fnfalman
10-26-2012, 11:07
With some wheeling and dealing, a brand new blued Colt full size Series 80 Government Model can be had for around $850. It has slightly better sights, enlarged ejection port and the internal firing pin safety, but otherwise it looks damn close to a GI piece.

Bflying
10-26-2012, 11:08
If it's just for the range, stick with full size. The $1000-$1200 opens the door to many great machines. My first choice would be S&W E-Series, second, higher end Springfield (TRP?). Even though I have more Glocks, I still love the 1911 platform. Compact 1911 on hip, G22 with light/strobe/laser at bedside.

AKRover
10-26-2012, 11:56
I have a Delta Elite that had a few hiccups when I first got it but now after a few hundred rounds and a lot of cleaning and oiling it runs like a champ. I've gone throng a few different ambi-safeties trying to find one I really like. I finally spent the money for a Wilson Combat bulletproof tactical ambi-safety and I love it.

My Sig 1911 Extreme has never had a hiccup through about 300 rounds and it came standard with ambi-safety very similar to the Wilson Combat bulletproof on my Delta.

fnfalman
10-26-2012, 11:58
I finally spent the money for a Wilson Combat bulletproof tactical ambi-safety and I love it.

If you really, really have to have an ambidextrous thumb safety then this is the way to go.

20South
10-26-2012, 12:15
Used TRP or Valor are good options. I believe there was a TRP on Addicts for 1100ish. Another path would be to get an STI Trojan. Welcome back.

DaneA
10-26-2012, 12:24
Around $1000, can go up to 1200 if I need too.

Just my 2c but look at sig. I picked up a nib sig 1911rcs for just under 1000 out the door. I've only put about 200-300 rounds through it but it hasn't had a single issue.


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AKRover
10-26-2012, 13:14
If you really, really have to have an ambidextrous thumb safety then this is the way to go.

I shoot left handed so it was kind of a must for me. The price was a little more than I wanted to spend but I went through two other safeties that I hated before finally spending the money for the WC bulletproof and realize I should have just done it to begin with. Would have saved a lot of money in the long run

ca survivor
10-28-2012, 12:04
give SA another chance, full size this time.

mleroux21
10-28-2012, 14:50
I would get this now! I dont understand how it has been sitting for so long.

http://www.1911addicts.com/showthread.php?7318-Springfield-TRP

Deal and a half if you ask me.

Marc

R0CKETMAN
10-28-2012, 15:44
If you really, really have to have an ambidextrous thumb safety then this is the way to go.

I shoot left handed so it was kind of a must for me. The price was a little more than I wanted to spend but I went through two other safeties that I hated before finally spending the money for the WC bulletproof and realize I should have just done it to begin with. Would have saved a lot of money in the long run

Agreed but they're hard to find in steel.


I would get this now! I dont understand how it has been sitting for so long.

http://www.1911addicts.com/showthread.php?7318-Springfield-TRP

Deal and a half if you ask me.

Marc

Agreed

20South
10-28-2012, 16:08
I would get this now! I dont understand how it has been sitting for so long.

http://www.1911addicts.com/showthread.php?7318-Springfield-TRP

Deal and a half if you ask me.

Marc

Thats the one I was talking about!

F106 Fan
10-28-2012, 18:08
I have 3 Colt 1911s (70 Gold Cup, 70 Government Combat & 70 Government Model) and they all work fine. The Government Model needed a lot of work (cut down ejection port, bevel mag well, ambi safety, etc) but I shot it in competition for quite a while. It is very well worn. Abused, actually...

All of them pale in comparison to the Sig 1911 XO model I picked up a few months ago. It is a great 1911 and shoots every bit as well as the Gold Cup.

The only problem I have with the Sig is that the slide is 'different' and the gun won't fit in any 1911 holster. It fits in the Sig Serpa-style holster and that's ok for me.

The Sig also has an external extractor so purists might complain. Personally, I don't care. As long as it works.

A really great 1911...

Richard

G19Paul
10-30-2012, 07:30
Well Frank..... $1k gets you into a very reliable 1911.

My choice was this Sig Sauer "Nightmare"..... I have shot over 1400 rounds now without a single failure. I love this pistol. Lots of goodies already installed.... including night sites. Got mine at a gun show.... Out the door at $1050. Have heard others making better deals out the door.



http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v177/pvancelette/FastbackNightmare.jpg

southernshooter
10-30-2012, 18:23
Sigs and S&W's work. If you are not a purist about the extractor.

OrangeDonkey
10-30-2012, 20:58
Around $1000, can go up to 1200 if I need too.

The Trojan is hard to beat in the $1000 range....

http://i1136.photobucket.com/albums/n491/orangedonkey/3f47b92f.jpg

Wyoming
10-30-2012, 21:10
"I am hoping for suggestions. I have searched and found the buyer's guide and other great threads, kind of hoping for a fresh prospective (I know the info hasn't changed much, but maybe there is someone out there with new experiences)."



When you said buyer's guide were you referring to bac's buyer guide?

If not, check it out it is pretty good. I should warn you that a one gun 1911 owner is very rare. 1911's just tend to need have litter mates.:whistling:

G19Paul
10-31-2012, 06:55
Sigs and S&W's work. If you are not a purist about the extractor.

Valid point.

The 1911 platform has been around long enough where it seems natural that variants and tweeks have been introduced.

Personally, I don't mind the upgrades in pursuit of perfection as long as I am respectful to the original platform which has been battle-proven for many, many years.

I have a bigger problem seeing this platform in any other caliber other than .45acp.

Everyone should at least experience a full-size 1911 in .45acp.

Gbannan
11-01-2012, 18:57
With some wheeling and dealing, a brand new blued Colt full size Series 80 Government Model can be had for around $850. It has slightly better sights, enlarged ejection port and the internal firing pin safety, but otherwise it looks damn close to a GI piece.

It sounds like you think the internal firing pin safety is an advantage. Explain. I want a springer and not a series 80 for this reason. Im under the impression that springers don't have a firing pin safety unlike the series 80. Correct me if im wrong.

fnfalman
11-01-2012, 22:27
It sounds like you think the internal firing pin safety is an advantage. Explain. I want a springer and not a series 80 for this reason. Im under the impression that springers don't have a firing pin safety unlike the series 80. Correct me if im wrong.

I don't think that the internal firing pin safety is an advantage at all. The gun already has two other safeties: thumb and grip. However, I don't think that it's a disadvantage either. It's a non-issue for me.

Springfields don't have firing pin safety.

ilgunguygt
11-02-2012, 01:05
I don't think that the internal firing pin safety is an advantage at all. The gun already has two other safeties: thumb and grip. However, I don't think that it's a disadvantage either. It's a non-issue for me.

Springfields don't have firing pin safety.
I thought the main purpose of the series 80 safety was that it became drop safe with it?