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eric2684
10-29-2012, 19:02
I recently ran out of Hops #9 oil, and had some left over BMW fully synthetic 5w-30 engine oil. I refilled the bottle with the BMW oil, and used it to oil my glock a few months ago. I just went to the range, and shot 300 rounds. When I got home, I field stripped my glock, and realized that the barrel and slide rails still were wet with oil. I have never previously found wet oil in a glock that had hundreds of rounds though it. Fully sunthetic engine oil works great, lasts long, and is 15 to 20 times cheaper then Hops gun oil.

SJ 40
10-29-2012, 19:06
Any good quality oil will do. SJ 40

19crew
10-29-2012, 19:31
Any good quality oil will do. SJ 40

This, hell run it dry, it's a glock.

M 7
10-29-2012, 20:14
I recently ran out of Hops #9 oil, and had some left over BMW fully synthetic 5w-30 engine oil. I refilled the bottle with the BMW oil, and used it to oil my glock a few months ago. I just went to the range, and shot 300 rounds. When I got home, I field stripped my glock, and realized that the barrel and slide rails still were wet with oil. I have never previously found wet oil in a glock that had hundreds of rounds though it. Fully sunthetic engine oil works great, lasts long, and is 15 to 20 times cheaper then Hops gun oil.

Yeah, synthetic motor oil is way over-engineered for pistols, it's the best option IMO.

Here is a detailed thread that really gives a good account of what is in each grade and a whole bunch of other specs-

http://www.stoppingpower.net/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=16727

voyager4520
10-29-2012, 20:17
Hoppe's regular (#9) oil is some of the worst I've seen when it comes to corrosion protection. My older G23 has bare steel frame rails and one of those rails developed a spot of surface rust while it was literally dripping in that oil. Most gun oils do a good job protecting against rust but Hoppe's oil doesn't. Their "Elite" oil doesn't do much better.

Bigpoppie50
10-29-2012, 20:34
I recently ran out of Hops #9 oil, and had some left over BMW fully synthetic 5w-30 engine oil. I refilled the bottle with the BMW oil, and used it to oil my glock a few months ago. I just went to the range, and shot 300 rounds. When I got home, I field stripped my glock, and realized that the barrel and slide rails still were wet with oil. I have never previously found wet oil in a glock that had hundreds of rounds though it. Fully sunthetic engine oil works great, lasts long, and is 15 to 20 times cheaper then Hops gun oil. You are absolutely correct sir, I have about half a bottle of Mobil 1 5W-30 fully synthetic left and it works great.

robert101
10-30-2012, 11:41
Hoppes #9 is a cleaning solvent. I don't use oil as a substitute. If you want oil then yes motor oil is a good lubricant.

lethal tupperwa
10-30-2012, 11:52
2 things

"wet with oil" sounds like you did not read the manual that came with the gun.

Synthetic oil has a temp range that it is for
your gun gets hot and the high temp synthetic is Very expensive.

KIDRAY
10-30-2012, 12:14
Slip 2000 EWL

davsco
10-30-2012, 14:10
i've heard recommendations for mobil 1, et al, but i've also heard that the motor oils lack rust inhibitors and the like that are needed for firearms.

any clarification is welcome!

carloglock19
10-30-2012, 14:27
Ive been using breakfree LP for a while now with good results. It stays put and lasts for a long time. This works good for my CCW.

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Frank V
10-30-2012, 14:31
I like Break Free CLP.
Frank

SouthernBoyVA
10-30-2012, 14:36
If your Glock is to serve as a carry gun, you might wish to reconsider your lubrication options. For my carry guns, I use a high quality silicone spray (CRC Heavy Duty) and/or a quality dry lube such as Hornady's One Shot. The reason is simple. Oils and greases attract dirt and lint. These products I mentioned keep that to a minimum. This is desirable for a carry gun.

guns54
10-30-2012, 14:45
What ever you can get your hands on. Buy the best ammo with your funds.

Keyhole
10-30-2012, 14:54
M PRO 7 does me fine.

FireForged
10-30-2012, 16:09
and how is the add pak in that synthetic motor oil going to react with the gun cleaning solvents that you may use.

M 7
10-30-2012, 16:11
i've heard recommendations for mobil 1, et al, but i've also heard that the motor oils lack rust inhibitors and the like that are needed for firearms.

any clarification is welcome!

Motor oils have a pretty healthy dose of corrosion/rust inhibitors.

Check out the BITOG forums- they offer a wealth of info about motor oils and there's a couple of forums where they post analysis of new and used motor oils.

Bruce M
10-30-2012, 16:34
I doubt there would any noticeable functioning difference in a Glock using the most or least expensive gun lubricant as long as it was used properly.

Gallium
10-30-2012, 17:03
Hoppe's regular (#9) oil is some of the worst I've seen when it comes to corrosion protection. My older G23 has bare steel frame rails and one of those rails developed a spot of surface rust while it was literally dripping in that oil. Most gun oils do a good job protecting against rust but Hoppe's oil doesn't. Their "Elite" oil doesn't do much better.

Unfortunately, this is only your opinion, and with anecdotal data.

If you had a large enough sample size of identically configured guns with 1/3 lot using Hoppe's, 1/3 lot using something else and 1/3 lot with no oil, for some duration of time then maybe we could arrive at scientifically sound conclusions.

Anything less is just really conjecture.

faawrenchbndr
10-30-2012, 17:17
Hoppes oil is garbage,.........

HEXE9
10-30-2012, 17:59
I doubt there would any noticeable functioning difference in a Glock using the most or least expensive gun lubricant as long as it was used properly.

^---this---^

TMNKWD
10-30-2012, 19:04
During my armorerís class, the instructor preached the 4 drop company line, but also said those issued Glocks in Afghanistan and Iraq were told to run dry.

jeremy1
10-30-2012, 19:09
I use a drip of axle grease on the rails. I bought some syringes from brownells and that makes applying grease easy. That stuff stays on. A light coat of clp for corrosion specifically on the barrel and inside of the slide. This has served me well.

Tkz
10-30-2012, 19:16
I have been using motor oil for years on firearms and have never had any problems, light application is fine.

JesseA
10-30-2012, 19:17
I use Starrett oil. It came with a new pair of calipers I ordered for work. I figured if it's good enough for precision tools that measure down to .0001" it would be perfect for my guns, and it works great.

M 7
10-30-2012, 21:58
I have been using motor oil for years on firearms and have never had any problems, light application is fine.

This has been my experience, too. :)

Inebriated
10-30-2012, 22:00
I use Breakfree CLP.

Glock40man
10-31-2012, 00:36
I use Breakfree CLP as well.

Arc Angel
10-31-2012, 05:02
I have a friend who has been running his Glocks, 'wet' for years, and years, and years. I keep telling the guy he's wrong; and he should read the owner's manual that came with his Glock; but all he ever says to me is, 'What do those factory engineers know about running a gun?' (They used to make shower curtain rings and shovels, or something.)

It's steel on steel, now; isn't it! Can't talk to him; he just won't join the club; and, as for his Glocks, they're all very well used and in, 'like new' condition.

:dunno: There's just no talking to some people. :freak:

LampShadeActual
10-31-2012, 06:30
Short Version of Referenced Thread Quoted With Excess Left Off:

Question: Where does one buy this Red Line oil?

http://www.stoppingpower.net/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=16727&whichpage=1

Alternative Small Arms Lubricants

Synthetic motor oils are subjected to extreme conditions present inside operating internal combustion engines. These include but are not limited to:


-Thermal Stress
-Extreme Pressure and Wear
-Oxidation and Corrosion
-Combustion Product Contamination


Since firearms operate strictly within the boundary lubrication regime and not the hydrodynamic lubrication regime, it appears that synthetic motor oils should possess the necessary attributes (including detergency, rust and corrosion inhibition and adequate film and barrier strengths) to serve successfully as alternative small arms lubricants.

While not all of the synthetic motor oils and compounds listed below rise to meet all of the following evaluative performance criteria, they are for the most part, adequate for the application since the internal operating environment of firearms is generally far less severe than that of internal combustion engines.


Evaluative Criteria:

1. Pour Point (PP): The lowest temperature (Fahrenheit) at which a lubricant will flow.
Minimum requirement: -50.00 F

2. Flash Point (FP): The lowest temperature (Fahrenheit) at which a lubricant will produce vapors that, if subjected to an ignition source, will ignite and combust.
Minimum requirement: +400.00 F

3. Viscosity at 100F (V100): The viscosity (in centistokes, cSt) of a lubricant at 100F.
Minimum requirement: 25.00 cSt

4. Viscosity at 212F (V212): The viscosity of a lubricant (in centistokes, cSt) at 212F.
Minimum requirement: 5.00 cSt

As a point of reference, the kinematic viscosity of pure water at:
68F (room temperature) is 1.004 cSt
100F is 0.658 cSt
212F is 0.294 cSt

5. Thermal Service Range (TSR): The sum of the absolute values of the Pour Point (PP) and the Flash Point (FP).
Minimum requirement: 450.00 F

6. Viscosity Index (VI): An arbitrary numerical value assigned to a lubricant indicating its ability to retain its viscosity across a specified temperature range.
Minimum requirement: 110.00 (Very High)

Low VI: 35 or lower
Medium VI: 35-80
High VI: 80-110
Very High VI: 110 or higher

7. Molybdenum (Mo): An anti-wear/extreme pressure (AW/EP) additive.
Concentrations are expressed in parts per million (ppm).
Preferred requirement: 45 ppm

8. Boron (B): An anti-wear/extreme pressure (AW/EP) additive.
Concentrations are expressed in parts per million (ppm).
Preferred requirement: 50 ppm

9. Phosphorus (P): An anti-wear/extreme pressure/corrosion inhibitor (AW/EP/CI) additive.
Concentrations are expressed in parts per million (ppm).
Preferred requirement: 2,000 ppm

10. Zinc (Zn): An anti-wear/extreme pressure/corrosion inhibitor (AW/EP/CI) additive.
Concentrations are expressed in parts per million (ppm).
Preferred requirement: 2,000 ppm

I've decided that my next purchase for "gun oil" once my supply of M1 20w50 (prior formulation) runs out will be:

RED LINE 20W50
PP: -49.00 F
FP: +489.20 F
V100: 138.00 cSt
V212: 18.60 cSt
TSR: 538.20 F
B: 20 ppm
P: 2100 ppm
Mo: 500 ppm
Zn: 2500 ppm
P: 2100 ppm
VI: 152

LampShadeActual
10-31-2012, 14:34
Well, finding the stuff is a trick when I tried to buy a quart of 20W50.

Places on the Red Line web site, chains like Advance Auto Parts, Auto Zone, Pep Boys, none of them have the Red Line Brand.

I finally found a racing place 40 miles from my house in a major metro area that has it. The guy says you will only find it at a race car speciality place, not consumer retailers for autos.

Made in Austria
10-31-2012, 15:01
I just scrape off the old motor oil at my local Walmart parking lot, and use it as gun oil. Hey it's a Glock!

cangler
10-31-2012, 16:14
ballistol, does everything!

JBP55
10-31-2012, 16:23
Mobil 1 20W50.

glockarmor
10-31-2012, 17:27
I favor Tetra products on all my firearms.

kalifornia
10-31-2012, 18:21
baby seal oil will not thicken no matter how cold it gets.

reelnative
10-31-2012, 19:16
break free clp, rem oil or outers gun oil, its all cheep and is made for weapons and can be found at any walmart, as for hopps no9 its a cleaning solvent, not a lube but will give very min rust protection, my 85yr old dad use to use tranny fluid

Smoker
10-31-2012, 19:56
Can this thread be put with the other 150 or so that are about Glock oil??

TheNinja
10-31-2012, 20:21
ballistol, does everything!

Ballistol for me as well.

tango44
11-01-2012, 20:06
FrogLube CLP.

TxGlock9
11-01-2012, 23:44
Militec 1 fo me

reelnative
11-02-2012, 00:05
FrogLube CLP.


ive herd thats good stuff its all my glock dealer uses, it has a menty smell to it, its all you can smell when you go into my dealers shop

WinterWizard
11-02-2012, 00:32
Can this thread be put with the other 150 or so that are about Glock oil??

It can go with the other 1000 threads about brass to the face, butt plugs, using engine oil as gun oil, which gun should I buy?, which gun should I sell?, can a glock fire underwater?, 9mm vs .45 and what holster should I buy? threads.

Anyone who has been on GT for more than 6 months can see the same threads repeating over and over.

AustinTx
11-02-2012, 00:57
All oil does, in a Glock pistol, is attract dirt/durt (Bubba).