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sheriff733
11-01-2012, 06:47
There has been a fairly substantial Romney lead in the polls up until now. What happened? Did Sandy really cause that much of a swing or is media bias at it again? Seems like overnight it went from 52%-48% popular vote to 49%-49%?

Discuss.

:wavey:

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Sam Spade
11-01-2012, 06:59
It's the MSM's contribution to the Democrat "get out the vote" effort.

Paul7
11-01-2012, 07:15
Gallup still has Romney up 51-46 among likely voters. That is about the same percentage Romney leads among those who have already voted.

Brucev
11-01-2012, 07:18
There has been a fairly substantial Romney lead in the polls up until now. What happened? Did Sandy really cause that much of a swing or is media bias at it again? Seems like overnight it went from 52%-48% popular vote to 49%-49%?

Discuss.

:wavey:

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People don't want to change horses in the middle of a stream... or a flood... or "The Mother of All Storms."

Also... when conservatives nominate idiots who pontificate needlessly on abortion and other hot button moral topics, they hoist themselves on their on petard. The demokrats don't have to do anything at all except stand aside and watch the idiots have a blast. It's the sort of shock that leaves some folks saying awe.... shucks!

JBnTX
11-01-2012, 07:32
Polls are nothing more than unreliable political gimmicks this close to an election.

Skyhook
11-01-2012, 07:32
Can history teach us something?
Polls said it was 'too close to call' right up to the night of the election-- 1980.

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,924541,00.html


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_election,_1980

Reagan got 489 electoral votes out of, what, 538? 43 out of 50 states?

Surely the electorate has changed due to the 'GimmeDats' and the efforts of the socialist-run public schools, but maybe there is something to be learned yet?:dunno:

Vic777
11-01-2012, 07:33
I'm real curious about this also, America is full of fraud and corruption. The Liar in Chief is just the tip of the iceberg. Maybe the long road back will start on Nov 6th., or maybe the slide into oblivion will be complete. Can a Nation who elected Barney Frank and Chris Dodd and Ted Kennedy and both Clinton's survive? Did I mention Chuck Schumer? How about Al Franken?
Fraud and corruption is everywhere you look from your local Town Council to the White House, the only cure is to reduce the size of Government.

And where there is no corruption there is just total incompetence.

muscogee
11-01-2012, 07:36
People don't want to change horses in the middle of a stream... or a flood... or "The Mother of All Storms."

Also... when conservatives nominate idiots who pontificate needlessly on abortion and other hot button moral topics, they hoist themselves on their on petard. The demokrats don't have to do anything at all except stand aside and watch the idiots have a blast. It's the sort of shock that leaves some folks saying awe.... shucks!


Good post. Romney being on record saying some to the effect that he wanted to get rid of FEMA may have backfired as well. The storm damage covers thousands of square miles. I don't see any entity other than the federal government that can deal with a disaster of this magnitude. There are situations where the free market cannot work and we have to take a, "one for all and all for one" approach.

ModGlock17
11-01-2012, 07:44
May be we should get ready for another 4 years of spiral stair case ??

I recommend investing in Gun and Ammo companies. The value of your personal arsenal WILL GO UP, while your networth WILL GO DOWN. Just Life.

DOC44
11-01-2012, 07:46
blued steel..... the new precious metal.

Wonder if Kitco will include it.

Doc44

Skyhook
11-01-2012, 08:06
Good post. Romney being on record saying some to the effect that he wanted to get rid of FEMA may have backfired as well. The storm damage covers thousands of square miles. I don't see any entity other than the federal government that can deal with a disaster of this magnitude. There are situations where the free market cannot work and we have to take a, "one for all and all for one" approach.


Did Romney actually say, or almost say he would 'get rid of FEMA'?
NO.
Here..http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/10/politics-of-fema-mitt-romney-suggested-less-federal-involvement-paul-ryan-budget-scrutinized/

"Should FEMA be reformed to put a stronger emphasis on the states and less of an emphasis on federal aid?

“Absolutely,” said Mitt Romney during a June 13, 2011, GOP primary debate.

As a general rule, Romney added, it would be even better if the private sector could step in."

Paul7
11-01-2012, 08:08
Who would you rather have in charge of the rebuilding after Sandy, Barry or Romney? I'm pretty sure if Romney had been POTUS when the gulf oil spill happened it would have been capped much sooner.

PocketProtector
11-01-2012, 08:13
It's the MSM's contribution to the Democrat "get out the vote" effort.

Bingo......renamed the LSM.

IvanVic
11-01-2012, 08:16
Rasmussen still has Romney leading by 2.

sheriff733
11-01-2012, 08:37
Rasmussen still has Romney leading by 2.

Oh ok. I read an article a few hours ago that said they were tied. Of course it came from CNN, so I shouldn't be overly surprised.


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JMag
11-01-2012, 08:39
They are not tied. The MSM and current administration, working in unison, want us to believe that. Any incumbent "tied" in a national race is usually in a heap of trouble. Add to that the lagging economy, Benghazigate, and Obama fatigue and Romney may do to Obama what Reagan did to Carter. I sure hope so as we cannot afford four more.

muscogee
11-01-2012, 08:40
Did Romney actually say, or almost say he would 'get rid of FEMA'?
NO.
Here..http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/10/politics-of-fema-mitt-romney-suggested-less-federal-involvement-paul-ryan-budget-scrutinized/

"Should FEMA be reformed to put a stronger emphasis on the states and less of an emphasis on federal aid?

“Absolutely,” said Mitt Romney during a June 13, 2011, GOP primary debate.

As a general rule, Romney added, it would be even better if the private sector could step in."

That's a lot of double talk, He wouldn't get rid if it. He would just privatize it. If that had worked in the past, we wouldn't have FEMA.

aircarver
11-01-2012, 08:41
... Kinda like the last 'jobs' report .... cooked to a fare-thee-well ... :upeyes:

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sheriff733
11-01-2012, 08:59
... Kinda like the last 'jobs' report .... cooked to a fare-thee-well ... :upeyes:

.

That's true.

Of course, the jobs report isn't even out yet and CNN is already reporting adding 158,000 jobs and first time unemployment claims down 9,000.

:upeyes:


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jeanderson
11-01-2012, 09:05
Rasmussen still has Romney leading by 2.
And enthusiasm for Romney is much higher than for Obama. Which means the lead is essentially even greater.

callihan_44
11-01-2012, 09:07
dont lose focus, forget the polls and VOTE!

JFrame
11-01-2012, 09:22
dont lose focus, forget the polls and VOTE!


Yep -- that's the bottom line...


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sheriff733
11-01-2012, 09:35
dont lose focus, forget the polls and VOTE!

Voted earlier this week.

:thumbsup:


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Cavalry Doc
11-01-2012, 09:43
That's a lot of double talk, He wouldn't get rid if it. He would just privatize it. If that had worked in the past, we wouldn't have FEMA.

I guess it's a good thing the country didn't experience any disasters prior to 1978.

I remember people not effected by disasters getting paid, and FEMA cards being used at strip clubs and liquor stores.

Privatization sounds like a good idea to me.

Acujeff
11-01-2012, 09:45
The NY Times Poll Is Wrong

Whether deliberately or not, the New York Times/CBS/Quinnipiac Poll is wrong! It shows Obama carrying Ohio, Florida, and Virginia. In reality, Romney is leading in all three states and will carry them all.

Full analysis at:
http://www.dickmorris.com/why-the-ny-times-poll-is-wrong/

PVolk
11-01-2012, 09:47
I don't put much weight in polls either. They gauge which candidate a person "would" vote for, not "will" vote for. And I know ALOT of Barry supporters that do not plan to cast a vote.

wjv
11-01-2012, 10:10
Also, most place use a 3-4 day rolling average. So if something happens, you typically don't see the full results in the numbers for 3 days.

Looks like NYC might be turning into Obama's NOL

> New Yorkers in fuel scramble as storm-hit pumps dry up...
> 'I'm pretty pissed'...
> ANGER BUILDS
> tensions boil at gas stations
> third full day with massive power outages.
> a line of cars stretched for a third of a mile late into Wednesday night
> line of men waiting to fill red jerry gas cans inched along
> Gas Shortages May Not End for Another Week...
> Fear Turns to Frustration, Anger...
> Fistfights, Guns Drawn...
> You're not getting gas tonight'...
> Fuel scramble...
> Some Siphoning From Cars!
> OBAMA LEFT THEM BEHIND: HUNGRY
> DUMPSTER DIVING IN NYC
> Sandy-Starved New Yorkers Dumpster Dive
> Residents began dumpster diving outside a Key Food
...supermarket Thursday, looking for whatever food they can take

The Democrats are learning that it's easier to be a Armchair Quarterbacks (NOL) than it is to be the ones actually responsible for the relief effort!

janice6
11-01-2012, 10:15
Because the pollsters are playing catch-up with the voters. They tried to "lead" the voters and that didn't work. Now the damage control.

ModGlock17
11-01-2012, 10:16
People in the hurricane ravaged areas are NOT HAPPY campers! Did you see the lines, and the cold ? And when they get the cell phones working, they beetch to relatives in other states.

Bloomberg's inability to get his city's utilities back pronto will hurt his president. Every cold night without power is a hole in the emperor's submarine. This has to have one likely effect: vote against or don't vote.

Skyhook
11-01-2012, 10:25
That's a lot of double talk, He wouldn't get rid if it. He would just privatize it. If that had worked in the past, we wouldn't have FEMA.


Doubletalk your donkey, musky. The only way to avoid the formation of government aggrandizing programs or to keep these dependency/handout programs from developing would require the total dissolution of the Democrat/Socialist party.

But, you know that.