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brianfede
11-04-2012, 08:51
Does anyone know much about these reproductions? Just saw one at my local gun store, the carbona blue is beautiful. I did some research, and gun was not part of the recall so its ready to go out of the box. It has one of the tightest frame to slide fits that I have seen in a Colt. They are asking $1300, any opinions on value.

http://pictures.gunauction.com/573/11021084/img_5879.jpg_thumbnail0.jpg

FullClip
11-04-2012, 09:11
Guess if it's a real Colt, it shouldn't be called a reproduction, but it's the real McCoy. Is it an 80 series or real retro setup?

I don't think I'd pay 1300 bucks for a new GI model when you can get some enhanced modles for same money. i did pick up a Springfield GI model a few years ago on a whim. (yea, yeah...has the crappy "made In Brazil" stamp.)

Maybe if it's for a hard-core ex-Navy/Marine/Army type who used to be issued the old 1911, then the value would be higher, but the question isn't so much as what the gun is worth, but more like "what is it worth to you"? I wouldn't look at it an investment to grow in value a whole lot, but a shooter if you want the bare bones version of a classic.

faawrenchbndr
11-04-2012, 09:12
It IS a real Colt! OP was either misinformed or simply left a bit out
of the description. The Colt pictured is a WWI reproduction.
Think of it like this, as close to an exact copy of a 1918 Colt as Colt could reproduce.


They are very nice,.....no longer in production.
Limited run of about 4500. They were selling for $950 three years
ago. Not really sure but it seems to be about $150-200 overpriced.

banger
11-04-2012, 09:26
Guess if it's a real Colt, it shouldn't be called a reproduction, but it's the real McCoy. Is it an 80 series or real retro setup?

I don't think I'd pay 1300 bucks for a new GI model when you can get some enhanced modles for same money. i did pick up a Springfield GI model a few years ago on a whim. (yea, yeah...has the crappy "made In Brazil" stamp.)

Maybe if it's for a hard-core ex-Navy/Marine/Army type who used to be issued the old 1911, then the value would be higher, but the question isn't so much as what the gun is worth, but more like "what is it worth to you"? I wouldn't look at it an investment to grow in value a whole lot, but a shooter if you want the bare bones version of a classic.


It's funny, I am just the opposite...

I have ZERO interest in "enhanced" models.

YET, I pay small fortunes for plain vanilla, unmolested G.I. government models.

For me, this was perfect. I got an "authentic" original model and get to shoot it too. All without worrying about breaking nearly 75-nearly 100 year old original parts.

brianfede
11-04-2012, 09:31
It IS a real Colt! OP was either misinformed or simply left a bit out
of the description. The Colt pictured is a WWI reproduction.
Think of it like this, as close to an exact copy of a 1918 Colt as Colt could reproduce.


They are very nice,.....no longer in production.
Limited run of about 4500. They were selling for $950 three years
ago. Not really sure but it seems to be about $150-200 overpriced.


Thanks, its a real Colt, I should have described the gun better. I have been looking for a Colt WW1 shooter (not safe queen) for a long time. I think its very difficult to buy these old Colts via Internet so I have been looking around at my LGS. They have a few old army Colts but they are so over priced IMHO. I was thinking, since I am going to shoot this gun and its not an investment, this Colt Repro 1918 might be a good alternative. I agree the price seemed a bit high but IMHO Colts are really never a great deal. I want one, have this on hold for 3 days just debating whether or not I should keep looking for an original.

brianfede
11-04-2012, 09:33
It's funny, I am just the opposite...

I have ZERO interest in "enhanced" models.

YET, I pay small fortunes for plain vanilla, unmolested G.I. government models.

For me, this was perfect. I got an "authentic" original model and get to shoot it too. All without worrying about breaking nearly 75-nearly 100 year old original parts.


Do you own this gun? How does it shoot? Wear?

banger
11-04-2012, 09:53
Do you own this gun? How does it shoot? Wear?

Yes, I do own one.

It shoots great...Not "match tight" but it as accurate as any of my originals.

As to wear....If you fire any 1911 pistol, it will wear.

The barrel hood will polish itself along with the end of the barrel where it comes into contact with the barrel bushing.

On a normally operating 1911, the finish will also wear along the feed rail, hammer, safety, magazine, magazine catch.

Basically anywhere where two pieces of metal rub across each other.

As far as I am concerned, it adds....character.

If you are concerned about wear....don't buy one, as any use will ultimately reduce it's value.

If you want an authentic copy of a WWI pistol to go out and fire...Buy this...It is "kick in the pants" fun.

You see, in my brain, I don't mind reproductions.

I have originals to keep and admire, and repro's to fire and generally enjoy and have fun with.

Whether it be a 1911 or a Lugar, a Mauser, a carbine or whatever.

Fun is....FUN.

brianfede
11-04-2012, 09:56
Yes, I do own one.

It shoots great...Not "match tight" but it as accurate as any of my originals.

As to wear....If you fire any 1911 pistol, it will wear.

The barrel hood will polish itself along with the end of the barrel where it comes into contact with the barrel bushing.

On a normally operating 1911, the finish will also wear along the feed rail, hammer, safety, magazine, magazine catch.

Basically anywhere where two pieces of metal rub across each other.

As far as I am concerned, it adds....character.

If you are concerned about wear....don't buy one, as any use will ultimately reduce it's value.

If you want an authentic copy of a WWI pistol to go out and fire...Buy this...It is "kick in the pants" fun.

You see, in my brain, I don't mind reproductions.

I have originals to keep and admire, and repro's to fire and generally enjoy and have fun with.

Whether it be a 1911 or a Lugar, a Mauser, a carbine or whatever.

Fun is....FUN.


Thanks, I am leaning towards buying it. Its a beautiful gun and as I mentioned I will be taking her to the range.

Thanks for the input.

faawrenchbndr
11-04-2012, 11:36
Like new ones will only get more expensive.
I would buy this over an authentic, if you plan to shoot it regularly.
The WWI & WWII had spotty heat treating. Not to mention, if
you experience a squib round in an original $2200 1918 Colt,
the value would drop 50% or better with a barrel and/or slide replacement.

brianfede
11-04-2012, 11:41
Like new ones will only get more expensive.
I would buy this over an authentic, if you plan to shoot it regularly.
The WWI & WWII had spotty heat treating. Not to mention, if
you experience a squib round in an original $2200 1918 Colt,
the value would drop 50% or better with a barrel and/or slide replacement.


Exactly the dilemma.

Annoyedgrunt
11-04-2012, 15:35
I have one of those, too.

The finish, fit and machining are some of the best I've seen on a 1911, for the price. It makes my Springfield Milspec look like a pile of crap. It's ran flawlessly out of the box up to about 400 rounds and counting. One of my best guns, in short.

The only thing I have to say against is the original, small beaver tail. It will try to bite if I try to have a good, high grip on it, which is how I shoot. I'd change it out, but then it wouldn't be original now, would it? Slightly modifying my grip is a small price to pay for a gun of this caliber, no pun intended. :cool:

banger
11-04-2012, 16:04
Sorry, but I neglected to add a bit of info..

If it helps ease your mind, I bought mine new about 3 years ago for approx. $1100.00 NIB.

So, the guy selling it is making a few Dollars...but not a fortune.

Hopefully, this makes you feel better about the price.

deadite
11-04-2012, 18:00
It has one of the tightest frame to slide fits that I have seen in a Colt.


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bac1023
11-04-2012, 20:56
Not many of those were built and they will certainly rise in value over time.