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ronduke
11-06-2012, 01:40
The DeKalb County State’s Attorney has asked state police to investigate the Northern Illinois University police department and its police chief after a judge ruled last week the department hid evidence that could have cleared one of its officers of a felony sexual assault charge.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/chi-dekalb-officials-ask-state-cops-to-investigate-niu-police-20121105,0,5938237.story

merlynusn
11-06-2012, 05:05
They just made it a felony here to purposely not disclose discovery.

But this is ridiculous. Sounds like they just wanted an excuse to get rid of the officer.

steveksux
11-06-2012, 06:43
They just made it a felony here to purposely not disclose discovery.

But this is ridiculous. Sounds like they just wanted an excuse to get rid of the officer.Jesus H YouKnowWho..

Damn, whether its legally required or not to disclose exculpatory evidence from a disciplinary standpoint, I would argue the officer damn well deserves the same benefits afforded a common criminal.

However in this case, to not disclose the exculpatory evidence to prosecutors when the officer is facing a felony charge is unconscionable, and WAY beyond the pale. I always thought that was required by law, although I'm probably thinking of the prosecutors having to disclose exculpatory evidence to the defense. I suppose I actually have no idea if the police are required to pass on exculpatory evidence to the prosecution. Color me astonished that this would occur. :dunno:

This officer just got a thin blue brick from that supposed wall shoved up his ass.

Randy

Morris
11-06-2012, 07:15
This officer just got a thin blue brick from that supposed wall shoved up his ass.

:rofl: I'm adopting that one. :rofl:

LC Deputy
11-06-2012, 08:18
This is the first I am hearing about this and it is the next county over from me. There have been stories about how that department is run but I dont know anything first hand. At this point I wouldn't want to work there.

CAcop
11-06-2012, 08:25
That chief is done. If the officer had sex on duty they could have easily fired him. Of course the article makes no mention of that. If he was off duty I can see the chief hanging onto that to get the officer fired.

If you can't pull that **** with a regular Joe then you can't do it with a cop.

steveksux
11-06-2012, 09:58
:rofl: I'm adopting that one. :rofl:I'd have been a great speechwriter... Speeches you'd love to give, but couldn't.. :rofl:

While the admin's actions are reprehensible (holding back evidence), regardless of other circumstances, I have to wonder as someone else said that they must have been looking for an excuse to fire the guy. That said, bet there's more to the story that we're not privy to. Every time there's an article out there designed to elicit outrage, there's almost always way more to the story that's NOT presented, and some artistic license being used on the facts that ARE presented.

So maybe the guy deserved to get fired, but no way in hell they should be hiding exculpatory evidence, if for no other reason than they're hanging the prosecutors office out to dry to look like a fool if he decides to fight this and that comes out. That's never a good thing for relations with the DAs office.

Randy

jpa
11-07-2012, 20:18
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So maybe the guy deserved to get fired, but no way in hell they should be hiding exculpatory evidence, if for no other reason than they're hanging the prosecutors office out to dry to look like a fool if he decides to fight this and that comes out. That's never a good thing for relations with the DAs office.

Randy

Yeah, then crazy stuff happens like the DA's office asking the state police to investigate your department.

I've heard lots of things about "campus cops" and how the administration treats the officers like their knaves on their private fiefdom. To attempt to prosecute someone for something that may be a disciplinary matter at best is ridiculous even by those standards.

scottydl
11-07-2012, 21:53
There have been stories about how that department is run but I dont know anything first hand. At this point I wouldn't want to work there.

You can say that again. I was in a class with a couple of their guys a few years ago, and I feel downright pity for them. Their patrol fleet is entirely Prius's. Long gun options consist of a single shotgun housed at the PD, that their Chief never allows to be touched. He's been quoted as saying that he'd take away all their handguns too, if state law (for public universities) didn't require them to carry. Chief is one of those guys that walks around in full dress blues every day, with a bunch of ribbons and awards that he gave himself apparently (since nobody else knows where they came from). I am not making this stuff up.

From their website (if the image links shows up below):
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http://www.niu.edu/publicsafety/images/index.jpg

RetailNinja
11-08-2012, 18:23
I feel bad for what happened to the cop, it's truly awful, but I do not feel bad for the cop. In a few years he'll be able to buy his own university. I would wager that since this article hit the press, Chicago lawyers are beating down his door.

janice6
11-08-2012, 18:37
If the simple facts are as stated, then the Chief should burn. You cannot do that to someone (even if you hate like them) and expect to get good people to do good work.

Chief sounds like a liberal professor, not professional law enforcement.

LC Deputy
11-09-2012, 13:21
You can say that again. I was in a class with a couple of their guys a few years ago, and I feel downright pity for them. Their patrol fleet is entirely Prius's. Long gun options consist of a single shotgun housed at the PD, that their Chief never allows to be touched. He's been quoted as saying that he'd take away all their handguns too, if state law (for public universities) didn't require them to carry. Chief is one of those guys that walks around in full dress blues every day, with a bunch of ribbons and awards that he gave himself apparently (since nobody else knows where they came from). I am not making this stuff up.

From their website (if the image links shows up below):
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http://www.niu.edu/publicsafety/images/index.jpg

Just had one of assistant state's attorney's quit here and go there to become a patrol officer. I'm not sure what he was thinking but he did it.

ronduke
11-11-2012, 02:57
Northern Illinois University’s police chief was put on paid leave today and banned indefinitely from the police department. This is Grady’s third leave since he became police chief. Grady will continue to draw his salary of about $206,000 a year while he is on leave.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/chi-niu-police-chief-donald-grady-on-leave-misconduct-allegations-in-department-20121110,0,3546380.story

(Look at the picture of this guy. How many award bars does he have?)

LC Deputy
11-11-2012, 09:31
Haha, that is hilarious.

ronduke
11-29-2012, 02:47
The charges against Andrew Rifkin were dropped following a hearing where a campus police IT specialist testified that he was summoned around 10 p.m. on Nov. 9, by NIU Police Chief Donald Grady and was told to remove between 60 and 70 files from the chief’s computer.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/chi-andrew-rifkin-charges-dropped-20121127,0,2657058.story

kenpoprofessor
11-29-2012, 04:38
You can say that again. I was in a class with a couple of their guys a few years ago, and I feel downright pity for them. Their patrol fleet is entirely Prius's. Long gun options consist of a single shotgun housed at the PD, that their Chief never allows to be touched. He's been quoted as saying that he'd take away all their handguns too, if state law (for public universities) didn't require them to carry. Chief is one of those guys that walks around in full dress blues every day, with a bunch of ribbons and awards that he gave himself apparently (since nobody else knows where they came from). I am not making this stuff up.

From their website (if the image links shows up below):
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http://www.niu.edu/publicsafety/images/index.jpg

Makes you think doesn't it? How many people "voluntarily" took a position on this force? And many probably did so knowing full well the implications of taking that job.

I'd say that most of the officers there most likely agree with the chief. They are free to leave correct?

Oh well

Have a great gun carryin' Kenpo day

Clyde

ronduke
02-20-2013, 03:13
Embattled Northern Illinois University police Chief Donald Grady was fired. Grady drew a salary of about $206,000.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/chi-niu-police-chief-fired-amid-misconduct-allegations-20130219,0,3966898.story

msu_grad_121
02-20-2013, 03:42
Flush the turd.

And that scumbag Lt. who acted as his little toady minion.

I hope that guy is able to live comfortably with the money he gets from the university. If they're smart, they'll start the settlement negotiations by saying, "how many zeros?"

scottydl
02-20-2013, 11:34
Grady drew a salary of about $206,000.

That is the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard, with a PD that small at a mid-size University.

razdog76
02-20-2013, 11:56
Makes you think doesn't it? How many people "voluntarily" took a position on this force?

Probably all of them, looking for the first LE job they could find.

And many probably did so knowing full well the implications of taking that job.

Probably not. How often would a Chief tell you he is a wackjob? How often has an interviewer told you the company was a total mess?

I'd say that most of the officers there most likely agree with the chief.

Do you really believe that? Never mind. :faint:

They are free to leave correct?

Like anyone else trying to pay bills, and have retirement income, in a field which is very difficult to get into.

I will bet, that with the possibility of another national AWB, they will still get at least one more round in their magazines than kenpoprofessor, and I bet it will chap him for a week to think about that. :wavey:

isp2605
02-20-2013, 21:27
http://www.niu.edu/publicsafety/aboutus/officers.shtml

Ohio Copper
02-20-2013, 21:37
I would be PTFO if I had to drive around in one of those. Give me a crown vic with a rust spot the size of a pizza on the roof and I'm good to go.

Ohio Copper
02-20-2013, 21:38
Probably all of them, looking for the first LE job they could find.



Probably not. How often would a Chief tell you he is a wackjob? How often has an interviewer told you the company was a total mess?



Do you really believe that? Never mind. :faint:



Like anyone else trying to pay bills, and have retirement income, in a field which is very difficult to get into.

I will bet, that with the possibility of another national AWB, they will still get at least one more round in their magazines than kenpoprofessor, and I bet it will chap him for a week to think about that. :wavey:


And notta one of them made a stupid youtube video about it... :tongueout::rofl::rofl::rofl:

Ohio Copper
02-20-2013, 21:40
http://www.niu.edu/publicsafety/aboutus/officers.shtml

Where are all their necks?

CJStudent
02-20-2013, 21:42
http://www.niu.edu/publicsafety/aboutus/officers.shtml

That sure is a lot of crap opposite their badges....

msu_grad_121
02-20-2013, 21:56
That sure is a lot of crap opposite their badges....

"Well, this one is, uh, shorthand. And, uh, this one over here is M.V.P. And, uh, this is surfing..."

Bonus points if you can name the movie :tongueout:

blueiron
02-20-2013, 22:06
They have more crap on their uniforms than Lt. Gen Chesty Puller has medals for valor.

Some of them look like the Grand Admiral of the High Seas Naval Surface Fleet of the Archduchy of Luxembourg.

:upeyes:

Ohio Copper
02-20-2013, 22:21
I think between all of the departments I've worked for I couldn't get that many pins for my uniforms.

WTF?

razdog76
02-20-2013, 22:21
With 25 ribbons, he must have had stormed a couple campus beaches!:whistling:

CJStudent
02-20-2013, 23:08
I think between all of the departments I've worked for I couldn't get that many pins for my uniforms.

WTF?

Even combined with my military awards.........

SPDSNYPR
02-20-2013, 23:10
That sure is a lot of crap opposite their badges....

I noticed that too. I've been at my department 16 years, and I think I have a total of 3 ribbons. Not sure what they're for - they somehow ended up in my locker over the years (two of them came with medals of some sort that one day I'll look up). I've never worn them.

These guys must get a ribbon or medal every shift they don't crash a car or something.

Ohio Copper
02-20-2013, 23:12
Even combines with my military awards.........


We suck compared to them. :tongueout:

DustyJacket
02-21-2013, 02:23
One ribbon for each smart-alec, know-it-all, drunk college student that they did not choke the crap out of when they especially deserved it.

Yes. My first police job was University Police... :)

BlackPaladin
02-21-2013, 05:32
I would feel sorry for the tires if you were ran over by a bus Clyde.

BlackPaladin
02-21-2013, 05:37
Hopefully the admiral gets tossed, what a POS clown. This guy has probably never even made an arrest. Come to think of it, he and that Airforce faker who was wearing all of the mix matched ribbons and tan boots with dress uniform have some things in common.

(While paging through Blackington ribbons catalog, "Oooh that one is pretty, and this, and this also")

metal
02-21-2013, 05:57
"Well, this one is, uh, shorthand. And, uh, this one over here is M.V.P. And, uh, this is surfing..."

Bonus points if you can name the movie :tongueout:

I'm gonna get you sucka?

CJStudent
02-21-2013, 08:56
One ribbon for each smart-alec, know-it-all, drunk college student that they did not choke the crap out of when they especially deserved it.

Yes. My first police job was University Police... :)

Haha! I wish we could have had that when I did campus security for a private university; I'd have looked like Patton!

msu_grad_121
02-21-2013, 08:59
I'm gonna get you sucka?

Get this man a cigar!

Apparently only those of us from Michigan have seen that movie, tho...

ronduke
03-07-2013, 04:24
The warrant — which stunned officials at the state's third-largest public university — stems from an ongoing criminal investigation by three federal agencies and the Illinois State Police, FBI spokeswoman Joan Hyde said.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/chi-search-warrant-at-niu-police-station-20130306,0,878158.story

Mayhem like Me
03-07-2013, 05:04
Makes you think doesn't it? How many people "voluntarily" took a position on this force? And many probably did so knowing full well the implications of taking that job.

I'd say that most of the officers there most likely agree with the chief. They are free to leave correct?

Oh well

Have a great gun carryin' Kenpo day

Clyde.
Not that you deserve it but most are probably at that agency to get a free education and move on to more desirable agencies .


It's very hard to get any LE job and most don't know everything when they start.