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reflex264
11-08-2012, 06:48
Well as of last night she is officialy a .460 Rowland.
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e328/reflex264/guns/460Rowland.jpg
Mods to the gun include the whole trigger group replaced, .460 Rowland conversion, Dawson sights, beavertail and grip sleeve, titanium plunger, polish mating surfaces, extra power magazine springs, extended slide release, siderlockt trigger and more junk that I can't think of right this second. Will shoot it with the Rowland kit saturday.
As a super it shot 1" groups at 25 yards. That is 10 shot 1" groups using 185 Noslers at 1250fps. Now it will launch that same bullet over 1500fps. reflex264
Very very nice!
I now want one.
I have been thinking of getting a new gen4 and making my current g21 a fun gun. This is looking like just the thing.
Well as of last night she is officialy a .460 Rowland.
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e328/reflex264/guns/460Rowland.jpg
Mods to the gun include the whole trigger group replaced, .460 Rowland conversion, Dawson sights, beavertail and grip sleeve, titanium plunger, polish mating surfaces, extra power magazine springs, extended slide release, siderlockt trigger and more junk that I can't think of right this second. Will shoot it with the Rowland kit saturday.
As a super it shot 1" groups at 25 yards. That is 10 shot 1" groups using 185 Noslers at 1250fps. Now it will launch that same bullet over 1500fps. reflex264
How does she shoot for you? I'm thinking of doing the same with my Gen 3 21. There is a new video on YouTube, just type in Glock 21 in 460 Rowland. Mr. Redbull is guy who puts his converted 21 through it's paces with various ammo selections.
Amazing how effective the comp is on his gun. I have shot .45 Supers through my modified 21SF( 6"LW barrel, 22lb. rsa) This looks like a good bit more power and maybe more controllable with the comp installed.
reflex264
12-05-2012, 06:34
Alright back with more info. The gun went through a break in of sorts with the Rowland kit but after about 100 shots it started driving tacks and functions as good as they said it would. I have been doing load work ups and will ahve a complete report after deer season but I can tell you for the moment that the 225gr and 265gr WFN beartooths sized .451" are shooting as good or better than any auto pistol I have ever shot. I have started working with the 240gr Sierra JHC as well. It looks very promising.
The comp works as advertised. You can rapid fire a 3" group at 15 to 20 yards with it just watching the front sight. Recoil is less than my super was.
While my super functioned fine with one extra power mag spring the Rowland requires two as some of you gents have already done. reflex264
Sweet. .460 Rowland makes a lot of sense to convert your .45 to for hunting or animal defense. Slide lock trigger safety though? That doesn't make any sense to me. No offense.....
reflex264
12-06-2012, 08:13
If I had left the trigger at a stock 5.5lbs the trigger wouldn't be an issue. I have it very light now and it adds a considerable margin of safety when drawing the gun while setting in a tree stand. Without lightening the trigger the .5" to .75" groups at 25 yards wouldn't be possible. reflex264
Alright back with more info. The gun went through a break in of sorts with the Rowland kit but after about 100 shots it started driving tacks and functions as good as they said it would. I have been doing load work ups and will ahve a complete report after deer season but I can tell you for the moment that the 225gr and 265gr WFN beartooths sized .451" are shooting as good or better than any auto pistol I have ever shot. I have started working with the 240gr Sierra JHC as well. It looks very promising.
The comp works as advertised. You can rapid fire a 3" group at 15 to 20 yards with it just watching the front sight. Recoil is less than my super was.
While my super functioned fine with one extra power mag spring the Rowland requires two as some of you gents have already done. reflex264
Any problems feeding with Sierra or the Beartooth bullets?
If not, I may pick some Sierra or Hornady .45 240gr. slugs at the gun show here in the ATL area tomorrow for my .460 to shoot soon.
reflex264
12-07-2012, 14:19
The beartooth and sierra function perfectly in mine. The 240 sierra looks like it is going to be good. reflex264
The beartooth and sierra function perfectly in mine. The 240 sierra looks like it is going to be good. reflex264
Good, I'll look for some 240gr. Sierra or 240gr. XTPs tomorrow at the Gun Show.
The Hornady Leverlution Soft Pointed 225gr. bullet might be good choice as well. Looks like it may feed good, since the point might be flexible enough to go up the feed ramp without jamming.
token5gtd
12-07-2012, 14:51
That trigger is a no-no...
There was a now removed video on youtube of a guy that installed the siderlock on a G27. Caused his to randomly shoot bursts or go uncontrollably full auto.
There are PLENTY of other ways to improve the glock trigger without that dangerous piece of engineering.
reflex264
12-07-2012, 15:07
Not sure what that guy did or if he even used the set up like I did but mine has been shot thousands of times without a hitch. The only purpose of the siderlockt is to keep from pulling the trigger when I don't want too. once it is snapped off there is no difference in the way it functions vs. a un modified gun.
I used the lone wolf housing with adjustable stop, 6# trigger spring, titanium plunger, new connector and some polishing. My trigger is now a two stage that breaks pretty clean at 2.5lbs.
If the gent on the video put a fulcrum set up in his I can see problems but mine engages and charges the striker exactly like the stock one except with half the effort and without all the over travel. reflex264
Just took my Gen 3 G21 converted to .460 out on Sat. for some shooting tests. With 12gr. (MAX.load) Longshot behind a 230 XTP got an avg. of 1345 fps. 11gr. of Longshot was 1305fps.
Fed my homegrown hardcast hardball .45 ACP loads without a hitch. I really like the way the gun handles recoil with the comp. .460 loads controllable, .45 ACP loads are like shooting very light target loads.
Glad I made the decision to go .460 on my G21. I now have 3 guns in one. .45ACP, .45 Super, and .460 Rowland.
Really like the options this offers.
reflex264
12-18-2012, 06:12
Good to hear. MIne went through a break in period then started driving tacks. reflex264
I haven't done any accuracy tests yet. That will be next. I'm looking forward to using heavier bullets and heavier constructed bullets that I'll drive to 1200-1300fps to really be a game getter.
A hardcast LEE homegrown TC 230gr. properly lubed up on my RCBS Lubematic should be a good penetrating slug as well.
reflex264
12-21-2012, 11:21
I am going to try some of the 255 lee rfn bullets sized .451 in a week or two. reflex264
reflex264
12-26-2012, 07:55
I let several shooters including some newbees shoot it Saturday. even a 14 year girl that has never shot a handgun did pretty good with it. Now that all is working like it is supposed to the gun kicks like a .380. It is very easy to control and everyone just pics it up and shoots it good. I showed it to a deputy and he wants to modify his 21 now. Very worth while project. Another gent that has seen it want the sights done on his and the trigger work. All in all a great gun.
I let several shooters including some newbees shoot it Saturday. even a 14 year girl that has never shot a handgun did pretty good with it. Now that all is working like it is supposed to the gun kicks like a .380. It is very easy to control and everyone just pics it up and shoots it good. I showed it to a deputy and he wants to modify his 21 now. Very worth while project. Another gent that has seen it want the sights done on his and the trigger work. All in all a great gun.
Great! I'm taking my .460 hunting to the woods tomorrow. I found a place in Ala. that makes gas checks for 10mm and .45 ACP dia. bullets. Just ordered some. Sage Outdoors is the name of it.
Now, I can drive my homegrown hardcast bullets alot higher fps, this will come in handy with my .460 cast rounds.
picketpin
12-27-2012, 17:28
Thanks Reflex264 and 21Glock for your informative posts. Looking forward to ordering the kit for my G21, and shooting my converted G30 more.
james
Shot my G21 with the .460 Rowland conversion again today. Also, ran my .45 ACP and .45 Super handloads, all shot flawlessly with no hiccups at all.
Accuracy was superb. Off hand shooting a gal. milk jug at 20-40 yds. Not one round missed in over 50 shots made with a combination of ammo. This was one of the best decisions I've ever made as far as adding another caliber to my options in shooting the great Glock G21. 3 guns in one.
I highly recommend it!
reflex264
01-03-2013, 06:42
I have been working with the 240gr Sierra JHC. It looks like it will be a great deer bullet in the gun. Using Long Shot 1300fps is in reach. Probably going to back it down around 1200fps though. More later. reflex264
reflex264
01-10-2013, 06:27
Here is a group with the 225gr Beartooth.Of course I adjusted the sights...........
http://www.hunt101.com/data/500/medium/460_rowand_group.jpg
reflex264
01-10-2013, 08:32
Thanks. It couldn't have turned out better. It did surprise me that it met their accuracy claims. The 265gr are not that good yet but close. reflex264
Thanks. It couldn't have turned out better. It did surprise me that it met their accuracy claims. The 265gr are not that good yet but close. reflex264
Great! I've got some aluminum gas checks in .452 dia. from James Sage at Sage Outdoors. I have some of my LEE 230gr. TC cast loads put together in .460 with these gas checks on them and will be trying them out soon.
They should do well. I also got some in .40 cal. for my 10mm loads.
I'm trying conserve my XTP bullets as much as I can during these insane times of runs on anything with ammo or components.
reflex264
01-14-2013, 08:13
I am going to cast some more of the 255gr Lee RFP and size them to .451". It will be a couple of months but when I do I will post the Rowland results with them. reflex264
Good, I'll look for some 240gr. Sierra or 240gr. XTPs tomorrow at the Gun Show.
The Hornady Leverlution Soft Pointed 225gr. bullet might be good choice as well. Looks like it may feed good, since the point might be flexible enough to go up the feed ramp without jamming.
My test experience with Hornady 225grainers don't test very well as far as expansion. Look at my photos of spent bullets in my Grizzly WinMag. http://grizzlywinmag.com/ ...
For you reloaders of the Rowland take a look at my Grizzly WinMag page and the bullets I test with it. http://grizzlywinmag.com/
The Rowland will be fairly close to velocity and will give you an idea of what bullets will work best in the Rowland.
reflex264
03-27-2013, 06:40
Thanks Mag Ten. Great pics and info. Do you have any accuracy stand outs? What velocity did you get with the bushmaster 250gr? Thanks. reflex264
Thanks Mag Ten. Great pics and info. Do you have any accuracy stand outs? What velocity did you get with the bushmaster 250gr? Thanks. reflex264
Best I can remember about 1350fps. It's mushroom was much better than the 225gr.. I could never get the 225 grainer to open up.
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