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RayB
11-08-2012, 14:52
Hi, all! :wavey:

It has been awhile since I've made a study of ammo, and made a big purchase, which I have pending now...

In 2007 I paid $5.99 and $9.99 for fifty rounds each of 9 mm and .45 ACP practice ammo, respectively, and brought in several thousand rounds of both... I also ordered several hundred rounds of Double Tap in 9 mm, 10 mm, and .45 ACP self-defense ammo...

Having adjusted to the sticker shock, I'm putting together another big order, and I've found 9 mm for $9.99 and .45 ACP for $16.99... If you know of a better buy, I'd sure appreciate a heads up!

I'm also looking to cycle through my supply of Double Tap 9 mm, 10 mm, and .45 ACP ammo, and I know there have been strides made, in particular in 9 mm Self-Defense Ammo(like Federal HST 147 Grain +P 9 mm), and I'd greatly appreciate any input!

Links to info and vendors would be great! Thanks, all! :thumbsup:

--Ray

superspud
11-08-2012, 15:00
SG Ammo, Ammo To Go, etc....

I prefer Winchester Rangers T-Series in my Glock 19. 127 +p+

MtBaldy
11-08-2012, 15:42
I have 230 gr Gold Dot in my .45 and 165 gr Gold Dot in my G23. I usually end up ordering from http://www.ammunitiontogo.com/ or http://www.cheaperthandirt.com

robin303
11-08-2012, 15:47
http://www.ammoengine.com/find/ammo/9mm

RayB
11-08-2012, 19:54
Thanks! :wavey:

--Ray

THEPOPE
11-08-2012, 21:00
What is the brand of self-defense ammo you buying for that price ?

Around here, local shops, self-defense jacketed semi-hollow point 9m, is about 25 $ for only 20 rounds...most of the brand name, say, Winchester, or Federals ,etc....

45 ACP in jacketed semi-hollow point may go for 30 or 40 $ for 25....I have found them as low ( on sale ) for 17 $....

I am out.....:cool:

RayB
11-09-2012, 05:07
What is the brand of self-defense ammo you buying for that price ?

Around here, local shops, self-defense jacketed semi-hollow point 9m, is about 25 $ for only 20 rounds...most of the brand name, say, Winchester, or Federals ,etc....

45 ACP in jacketed semi-hollow point may go for 30 or 40 $ for 25....I have found them as low ( on sale ) for 17 $....

I am out.....:cool:


I'm sorry; I wasn't very clear on that, was I? I'd meant to say that I found my practice ammo at the prices quoted, and was looking for premium S-D ammo advice and resources. My bad...

Ammunition Depot had the best price on Federal HST 9mm 147 Gr +P and .45 ACP 230 Gr + P:

http://www.ammunitiondepot.com/Default.asp

Use promo code: preppertalk1 for 5% discount...

At over a dollar a round, my days of shooting Double Tap's 10 mm 135 grain Noslers is coming to an end...

--Ray


P.S. Here's some good quality practice .45 ACP ammo, with nice brass, at $16.99 for 500+ rounds... That's the same price as CCI Blazer... I used to buy MAGTECH in 9 mm and .45 ACP from MidwayUSA, a couple thousand rounds at a time, before they outpriced themselves through that vendor...

http://www.natchezss.com/product.cfm...5A&src=tpCtgAm

MAGTECH FMJ 9 mm is only .50 cents more than CCI Blazer, with all that pretty brass...

http://www.natchezss.com/product.cfm?contentID=productDetail&prodID=MG9A&src=sim

frizz
11-09-2012, 06:51
WARNING WARNING WARNING!



Be prepared to wait a while and to pay out the wazoo for ammo. People are afeared that Obama is going to ban ammo or something.


I think the approach of buying or reloading quality FMJ for practice and using the expensive stuff for carry is the only affordable option unless you have loads of money.

EDIT: I'm sure that you know this, but others should never forget to run a box or two of the carry ammo through your carry gun to make sure it likes to eat what you are feeding it


Speer Gold Dot and Remington Golden Saber are both good choices. I think 124grn for 9 and 230 grn for 45 are the best, but what do I know? They both have tested well, though.

Speer has some "law enforcement" overruns that I've seen at bulk ammo sellers. I don't know if they are a "problem child" though. EDIT: I don't know what Ayoob would say about carrying this since he advises against carrying reloads.


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Then there's Ammoman:

http://ammoman.com/c/16/9mm-luger
They have some LEO Gold Dots at $300 for 500 rounds, shipped.
Nothing worth looking at in 45, though.


Georgia Arms is always worth a look. They have Speer H-P, but I don't know how this compares to Gold Dots.
http://georgia-arms.com

RayB
11-09-2012, 08:19
WARNING WARNING WARNING!


Be prepared to wait a while and to pay out the wazoo for ammo. People are afeared that Obama is going to ban ammo or something.



Well, Reuters did post this on Wednesday, November 7th, the day after the election...

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/11/07/us-arms-treaty-un-idUSBRE8A627J20121107

...and many people feel that this is the gateway to attempting an end-run around the Second Amendment, via International Treaty, to ostensibly disarm the populace... :whistling:

It is interesting that the Obama Administration waited for the election results before making this move... :eyebrow:

They did the same thing by delaying the announcement of the massive layoffs in the aircraft industry... Word has it, the Obama Administration offered to cover the severance packages of these employees... :shocked:

http://ripandreader.com/lockheed-accepts-obamas-guidance-and-will-delay-sending-tens-of-thousands-of-layoff-notices-until-after-the-election/

And I see Chrysler gave it's employees the day off to go vote for their savior... :upeyes:

http://www.politico.com/politico44/2012/11/chrysler-gives-workers-day-off-to-vote-148617.html

Didn't you see all this in the MSM? Really? Go figure... :dunno:

--Ray

RWBlue
11-09-2012, 09:58
IMHO, Gold dot bonded is the best bullet on the market today. This being said, I don't think you can hang your hat on the differences between any of the top end brands. I ended up with HST2 for my last big purchase.

There are two real arguments. Which grain and brand do YOU shoot better.

For me, 9mm 147gr. For 45ACP 230gr. HST2

gwalchmai
11-09-2012, 10:53
I'm also looking to cycle through my supply of Double Tap 9 mm, 10 mm, and .45 ACP ammo...Why, exactly, Ray? Ammo doesn't get old, you know. I reload practice ammo to match the specs of my carry ammo and practice for a whole lot less. As long as you know your carry ammo functions I see no need to cycle through it. Hep me unnerstand.

Arc Angel
11-09-2012, 12:17
:shocked: Wow, Ray, Ammunition Depot has some good prices, there, on what appears to be quality SD pistol ammo.

I'm getting a little tired of all the gun forum hysteria over what Obama's going to do. International law does not - or, at least, should not - trump constitutional law. Lest we forget: No democratic government can do what the majority of the people won't allow.

As far as socialist government goes, I don't know? Perhaps, there, the politicians can shove anything they want down people's throats. Things are, definitely, heating up though; and a lot faster than I, otherwise, thought they might.

(Does anyone think the open carry problem is about to resolve itself?) ;)

Yeah, I'm going to buy some more ammunition, too; but only because I don't want all you guys to scoff it up. :thumbsup:

NickC50310
11-09-2012, 12:24
Best price to performance ratio i could find in 9mm SD ammo was ranger bonded 147gr from SGAMMO.COM.

As for ammo orders- I made a panic buy on wednesday morning and it all arrived today from CTD.

Arc Angel
11-09-2012, 12:24
Why, exactly, Ray? Ammo doesn't get old, you know. I reload practice ammo to match the specs of my carry ammo and practice for a whole lot less. As long as you know your carry ammo functions I see no need to cycle through it. Hep me unnerstand.

gwal, Back around the late 1930's when the Army's 25 year old reserves of 30-06 ammo were tested for usability, the Army found that the individual cartridge powder charges retained, something like, 88% potency.

A key factor in ammunition longevity is whether or not the casemouths and primer pockets are lacquer-sealed. Otherwise the dryer and more temperature-controlled the environment is where the ammo is stored, the better!

You're, probably, correct: There is no imperative need, right now, for Ray to, 'cycle through' his Double-Tap ammo.

gwalchmai
11-09-2012, 13:15
gwal, Back around the late 1930's when the Army's 25 year old reserves of 30-06 ammo were tested for usability, the Army found that the individual cartridge powder charges retained, something like, 88% potency.Innerstin'. AA, have you ever heard about an Army test program in which they loaded up a bunch of 1911 mags and put them in storage, sometime in the 20s, and then every year or few take one out and fire it to test mag and ammo function? I read it and didn't keep the reference, but IIRC they found that, so far, they always work.

RWBlue
11-09-2012, 13:27
:shocked: Wow, Ray, Ammunition Depot has some good prices, there, on what appears to be quality SD pistol ammo.

I'm getting a little tired of all the gun forum hysteria over what Obama's going to do. International law does not - or, at least, should not - trump constitutional law. Lest we forget: No democratic government can do what the majority of the people won't allow.

As far as socialist government goes, I don't know? Perhaps, there, the politicians can shove anything they want down people's throats. Things are, definitely, heating up though; and a lot faster than I, otherwise, thought they might.

(Does anyone think the open carry problem is about to resolve itself?) ;)

Yeah, I'm going to buy some more ammunition, too; but only because I don't want all you guys to scoff it up. :thumbsup:

I generally agree with you, but then again, I have enough ammo to outlast this pres.. I think that MOST of America should take this as a time to stock up and keep stocked up so it is around if needed.

RayB
11-09-2012, 16:07
Why, exactly, Ray? Ammo doesn't get old, you know. I reload practice ammo to match the specs of my carry ammo and practice for a whole lot less. As long as you know your carry ammo functions I see no need to cycle through it. Hep me unnerstand.


For the same reason I wouldn't mind buying another gun! Ammo is meant to be fired! :supergrin:

Plus, there's the whole new ammo shipment coming thingy! :woohoo:

Also, I've revaluated my fast and frangible policy for urban S-D, and after doing some reading, I've moved towards the heavy + maximum expansion philosophy... :wavey:

--Ray

RayB
11-09-2012, 16:35
1) :shocked: Wow, Ray, Ammunition Depot has some good prices, there, on what appears to be quality SD pistol ammo.

2) I'm getting a little tired of all the gun forum hysteria over what Obama's going to do. International law does not - or, at least, should not - trump constitutional law. Lest we forget: No democratic government can do what the majority of the people won't allow.

3) As far as socialist government goes, I don't know? Perhaps, there, the politicians can shove anything they want down people's throats. Things are, definitely, heating up though; and a lot faster than I, otherwise, thought they might.

4) Yeah, I'm going to buy some more ammunition, too; but only because I don't want all you guys to scoff it up. :thumbsup:


1) Yeah, it looked good to me too... Not too far back, that HST +P stuff was very hard to get, and a bit more spendy!

2) Well, you're right. But last time I bought 9 mm and .45 ACP practice ammo for $5.99 and $9.99 respectively, and not long after, ammo prices soared, and then ammo became hard to come by. All for the same old stuff... Look for shipping costs to go up too... This is anecdotal, but the stock market didn't absolutely have to tube, either, but it did....

3) Whether we like it or not, the Obama Administration has proved to be an engine of change... And Obama certainly is a socialist, with an antigun track record... When I researched his record back in 2008, as a state senator, guns were an issue he did not vote "present" on. In fact, as a senator he never failed to:

A) Vote to curtail an existing gun freedom

B) Vote to invoke new restrictions on gun ownership

In his recent debate with Mitt Romney, Obama stated that he would support an "assault weapons ban".

The definition of "assault weapon" is whatever he and Eric Holder tell us it is...

And they've never come clean on Fast and Furious.

4) AND THERE IT IS! ME TOO! :thumbsup:

Back in 2008/2009, my gun shop and range had a picture of Barack Obama, with the caption, "Gun Salesman Of The Year!" :supergrin:

--Ray

P.S. Do check your online coupon resources—that's where I got the 5% off at Ammunition Depot. I've received discounts and even free freight on at least 1 in 3 purchases this past year. Here's but one resource:

http://www.retailmenot.com/s/ammunition+depot