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frankr
11-09-2012, 03:24
First let me apologize because Iím sure this topic has been covered about a thousand times. Was wounding what you thought about my carry ammunition for my concealed carry weapons. In the summer I carry my Glock 26 with Speer Gold Dot 124 grain +P JHP and my winter carry is my Glock 19 with Federal Tactical HST 147 grain JHP.

1canvas
11-09-2012, 05:20
good choice on the GD but with all that I have read the 147 9mm is not a good performer. let me say that different, there are better rounds for the 9mm. if I had a 9mm my winter load would be the HST in 125grn. I would even stay with your GD ammo before I would go with any 147grn.

Kentguy
11-09-2012, 07:34
frankr,

I tent to agree with 1canvas... "I would even stay with your GD ammo before I would go with any 147grn."

Either stay with the same grain/brand bullet or for winter carry perhaps something like Hornady's new "Critical Duty."

http://www.hornady.com/store/9MM-LUGER-P-135-gr-FlexLock-Critical-DUTY/

9mm +P Hornady CRITICAL DUTY Ammo Gel Test - YouTube

A bit more penitrating (through winter gear) than the 147g round would be.

Good luck

frankr
11-09-2012, 10:40
tnoutdoors9 also has a test on the HST 147 that looks pritty good






Federal HST 9mm 147 gr JHP SIM-TEST w/Denim - YouTube

flw
11-09-2012, 10:50
We have three options.

Jacketed Hollow point

Bonded or not

Plus Pressure or +P if you can keep a 2nd round on target quickly.

Everything else is personal preference. Actually everything is personal preference. Do your own research, do not put your life on the line for someone else's make/model preferences.

SCmasterblaster
11-09-2012, 11:34
Try the Winchester or Federal 9mm +p+ 115gr JHP. You'll get 1350 FPS out of your G19.

frankr
11-09-2012, 11:59
Thank you all for your input. I like seeing what other people carry in the same weapons I have. One thing Iím sure we can all agree on is, I would not want to get hit with any of them.

[Un]Deadeye
11-09-2012, 12:45
tnoutdoors9 also has a test on the HST 147 that looks pritty good






Federal HST 9mm 147 gr JHP SIM-TEST w/Denim - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PNRqrJRq4T0)

Federal Hydra-Shok!

frankr
11-09-2012, 12:53
They all look good. It comes down to three things. Shot placement, shot placement, shot placement.

Warp
11-09-2012, 19:06
First let me apologize because Iím sure this topic has been covered about a thousand times. Was wounding what you thought about my carry ammunition for my concealed carry weapons. In the summer I carry my Glock 26 with Speer Gold Dot 124 grain +P JHP and my winter carry is my Glock 19 with Federal Tactical HST 147 grain JHP.

Sounds good

Inebriated
11-09-2012, 22:39
frankr,

I tent to agree with 1canvas... "I would even stay with your GD ammo before I would go with any 147grn."

Either stay with the same grain/brand bullet or for winter carry perhaps something like Hornady's new "Critical Duty."

http://www.hornady.com/store/9MM-LUGER-P-135-gr-FlexLock-Critical-DUTY/

9mm +P Hornady CRITICAL DUTY Ammo Gel Test - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wJZFZFmBKa0)

A bit more penitrating (through winter gear) than the 147g round would be.

Good luck
This is what I carry.

I like it. Actually very accurate out of my 26.

1canvas
11-10-2012, 06:34
They all look good. It comes down to three things. Shot placement, shot placement, shot placement.
while shot placement is good to try to achieve it rarely happens when stress is high and the shooter and shot at are in motion.

1canvas
11-10-2012, 06:42
as far as penetration of winter clothes the only thing to concider is the hollowpoint possibly plugging, winter clothes does nothing to slow down a bullet. the idea of a heavier bullet for more penetration through winter clothing is a myth.
the one thing some heavy for calibers may offer is a more aggresive [larger] hollowpoint because of the slower speeds they run at.

Kentguy
11-10-2012, 07:09
flw has it right on the money... "Actually everything is personal preference. Do your own research, do not put your life on the line for someone else's make/model preferences."

My best advise is that Whatever you choose in whatever platform, practice with that like your life depended on it - because it does!

superspud
11-10-2012, 11:45
I use Winchester ranger 127 +p+ in both my g19 and g26.

Typically only carry my 26 and my 19 stays on bedside duty but may start carrying the 19 since its getting cooler and ill be bundling up more. Have put plenty rounds of the ranger through both guns, never an issue.

FatBoy
11-10-2012, 13:55
I use the 124 +P GD in most of my 9mms, but there is nothing wrong w/ the 147 HST either. Most of the "hate" on the 147s is from old JHPs.

PghJim
11-10-2012, 21:18
If you can handle it, you may want to consider Underwood 124gr GD +p+ out of the G26. You will get the same velocity as the Speer factory 124gr GD +p out of te G19, and if you like, you can get an honest 1,300 fps out of the Underwood +p+ out of your G19. Tnoutdoors9 test of the Underwood 124gr GD +p+ looked pretty good. I generally carry a 357 sig, but when I do carry the 9mm it is loaded with Underwood.

arizona_andy
11-11-2012, 00:44
I use Winchester ranger 127 +p+ in both my g19 and g26.

+1. That is exactly what I do.

... you can get an honest 1,300 fps out of the Underwood +p+ out of your G19.

The 127gr +P+ RA9TA gets you 1300fps from the G19 as well.

kaech
11-11-2012, 10:46
To the guys claiming 1300/1350 fps. From federal/winchester from a G19 bumped there heads. Since its a G19 your inquiring about check out tnoutdoors9's youtube channel, the man has took the guess work out of it. BTW FEDERAL HST 147gr. Is a excellent pick!

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PghJim
11-11-2012, 13:17
To the guys claiming 1300/1350 fps. From federal/winchester from a G19 bumped there heads. Since its a G19 your inquiring about check out tnoutdoors9's youtube channel, the man has took the guess work out of it. BTW FEDERAL HST 147gr. Is a excellent pick!

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I am not sure what you are saying, but if it is to say that the Federal and Winchester 9mm 115gr +p+'s do not go above 1300 fps in a Glock 19, you should not base your point on one gun, or one box of rounds. I get over 1,300 fps for 9BPLE out of both of my G19's and have exceeded 1,350 for the Winchester round out of the same guns. BTW, these two rounds are very effective and my choice before any 147gr round.

kaech
11-11-2012, 15:52
I am not sure what you are saying, but if it is to say that the Federal and Winchester 9mm 115gr +p+'s do not go above 1300 fps in a Glock 19, you should not base your point on one gun, or one box of rounds. I get over 1,300 fps for 9BPLE out of both of my G19's and have exceeded 1,350 for the Winchester round out of the same guns. BTW, these two rounds are very effective and my choice before any 147gr round.

Id bet everything underwood clocks 1300+ never shot it
With that said ive never got close to 1300fps with the 115+p+ fble or the win.127+p+

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W.E.G.
11-11-2012, 16:20
Any full-power hollow-point from a reputable manufacturer will do everything you can reasonably expect a 9mm to do.

Its up to you to do the rest.

Don't agonize over which is "best."
Ammo has become like athletic shoes. The supposed "best" kind is only available for a short while, and then they change it.

Or at least rename it or rebrand it.

Shoot at least 100 rounds of your choice of defensive ammo in your personal gun to make sure it functions in your personal gun. The best bullet in the world, caught in a bolt-over-base malfunction will do you no good.

Rule 1 of ammunition.
Must work.

Arc Angel
11-11-2012, 16:38
First let me apologize because Iím sure this topic has been covered about a thousand times. Was wounding (You threw me on that one!) :supergrin: what you thought about my carry ammunition for my concealed carry weapons. In the summer I carry my Glock 26 with Speer Gold Dot 124 grain +P JHP and my winter carry is my Glock 19 with Federal Tactical HST 147 grain JHP.

After all the reading I did last night on modern 9mm ammo and short barreled pistols I think you've made two excellent choices.

PghJim
11-11-2012, 16:51
Id bet everything underwood clocks 1300+ never shot it
With that said ive never got close to 1300fps with the 115+p+ fble or the win.127+p+

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Was refering to Win. 115gr +p+. With 127 +p+, I get around 1,250fps.

frankr
11-12-2012, 02:12
After all the reading I did last night on modern 9mm ammo and short barreled pistols I think you've made two excellent choices.

Arc Angel, I do also.

Thank you

Adamz04
11-12-2012, 16:56
If you can handle it, you may want to consider Underwood 124gr GD +p+ out of the G26. You will get the same velocity as the Speer factory 124gr GD +p out of te G19, and if you like, you can get an honest 1,300 fps out of the Underwood +p+ out of your G19. Tnoutdoors9 test of the Underwood 124gr GD +p+ looked pretty good. I generally carry a 357 sig, but when I do carry the 9mm it is loaded with Underwood.

In relation to this post:
I acquired some underwood 124gr +p+ for my carry load. My Edc is a stock gen4 g26. I was All pumped up for this ammo after seeing the reviews, and then I shot it:(.

I like to note that my g26 has been 100% reliable with lots of different ammo and my usual carry load of federal hst 124+p through roughly 600 rds.

Every other shot with the underwood gave me a failure to eject. Never a miss, through 2 mags it happened on exactly every 2nd shot. It appeared to me that the brass was expanding just enough to get hung up in the chamber. Idk but it definitely didn't run in my g26. Back to the good ole hst for me.

bunk22
11-12-2012, 17:11
I only know from what I read so I mainly carry Speer Gold Dot 124 +p with some Ranger 127 +p+ as well. I use Speer Gold Dot 147gr at home but that's due mainly to it's such a soft shooter, easy for the wife or daughter to handle. Regardless, from what I read, the new 147gr ammo is better than what it used to be.

Andy W
11-12-2012, 18:58
Critical Dutty is probably a good choice for winter carry. With most hollowpoints there is a good chance they are gonna plug up and fail to expand through several layers of winter clothing. The Critical Duty greatly reduces or the liklihood of bullet plugging. Would you rather have .70" expansion maybe or .50" expansion that's almost guaranteed?

Warp
11-12-2012, 19:19
Critical Dutty is probably a good choice for winter carry. With most hollowpoints there is a good chance they are gonna plug up and fail to expand through several layers of winter clothing. The Critical Duty greatly reduces or the liklihood of bullet plugging. Would you rather have .70" expansion maybe or .50" expansion that's almost guaranteed?

This is where the FBI's "4 layers of denim" test is handy...regardless of how many people chastise it.

Indianashooter
11-12-2012, 20:03
Say what you will about the zombie max stuff but it is damn accurate out of my G 19. Far more so than Gold Dot, Federal or Cor Bon. Its just green critical defense stuff. I got it at the March 1500 in Indy for a steal.

unit1069
11-12-2012, 20:23
First let me apologize because Iím sure this topic has been covered about a thousand times. Was wounding what you thought about my carry ammunition for my concealed carry weapons. In the summer I carry my Glock 26 with Speer Gold Dot 124 grain +P JHP and my winter carry is my Glock 19 with Federal Tactical HST 147 grain JHP.

If it was my choice I'd stick with the Speer 124-grain Gold Dot +P, as I'm still not convinced the 147-grain weight bullet is the best choice for 9mm caliber. Big and heavy is just fine for .45ACP; my thinking is that much of the 9mm concept is based upon a velocity window to achieve its peculiar caliber advantages. The light 115-grain and normal 124-grain bullet weight parallels the concept with +P and +P+ adding to effectiveness.

Warp
11-12-2012, 20:57
Current 147gr offerings are good, especially in short barrels like the G26.

I just switched out the ammo in my G26 and three spare mags in preparation for travel. Went with 147gr Gold Dot this time.

SCmasterblaster
11-14-2012, 07:55
So, what have you decided on?

frankr
11-14-2012, 13:38
So, what have you decided on?

What I started with. Glock 19 Federal Tactical 147 grain HST, Glock 26 Speer Gold Dot 124 +P

Thank you for asking

SCmasterblaster
11-14-2012, 14:22
What I started with. Glock 19 Federal Tactical 147 grain HST, Glock 26 Speer Gold Dot 124 +P

Thank you for asking

So why, may I ask, do you prefer a 147 gr load in your G19? They'll not expand very much at 950 FPS.

frankr
11-14-2012, 14:36
So why, may I ask, do you prefer a 147 gr load in your G19? They'll not expand very much at 950 FPS.

Every test I’ve seen plus the few I’ve done with the 147 (HST) show great expansion with the Glock 19. I also seem to have faster and more accurate follow up shots. As for my Glock 26 it’s just me but again I like the accuracy I get with the GD 124 +P through my G26. I guess it all comes down to what you have confidence in.

Thank you for asking and stay safe.

SCmasterblaster
11-14-2012, 14:57
Every test Iíve seen plus the few Iíve done with the 147 (HST) show great expansion with the Glock 19. I also seem to have faster and more accurate follow up shots. As for my Glock 26 itís just me but again I like the accuracy I get with the GD 124 +P through my G26. I guess it all comes down to what you have confidence in.

Thank you for asking and stay safe.

I have never tried factory-loaded 147gr bullets in my G17. :cool:

Andy W
11-14-2012, 16:33
as far as penetration of winter clothes the only thing to concider is the hollowpoint possibly plugging, winter clothes does nothing to slow down a bullet. the idea of a heavier bullet for more penetration through winter clothing is a myth.
the one thing some heavy for calibers may offer is a more aggresive [larger] hollowpoint because of the slower speeds they run at.

I think the rational behind heavier bullets for winter is that if they're gonna plug and turn into FMJ, then they want to have the biggest, heaviest FMJ they can. Not because winter clothing stops bullets down, but because heavier bullets penetrate deeper and shatter bone better than lighter ones.

frankr
11-15-2012, 02:52
I think the rational behind heavier bullets for winter is that if they're gonna plug and turn into FMJ, then they want to have the biggest, heaviest FMJ they can. Not because winter clothing stops bullets down, but because heavier bullets penetrate deeper and shatter bone better than lighter ones.

Federal HST 9mm 147 gr JHP SIM-TEST w/Denim - YouTube

Even with a heavy plug of material the Federal Tactical HST 147 grain JHP had great expansion and penetrated to a depth of a little over 13Ē Iíve seen this bullet perform over and over again.

Andy W
11-15-2012, 09:45
Federal HST 9mm 147 gr JHP SIM-TEST w/Denim - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PNRqrJRq4T0)

Even with a heavy plug of material the Federal Tactical HST 147 grain JHP had great expansion and penetrated to a depth of a little over 13Ē Iíve seen this bullet perform over and over again.

Cool. Even better if they can still expand.

SCmasterblaster
11-15-2012, 11:44
You might want to try the Winchester or Federal 9mm 115gr JHP +p+ for your G19. You'll get over 1350 FPS with a very expandable bullet. I get 1400 FPS in my G17.

Alchemy
11-15-2012, 12:28
So why, may I ask, do you prefer a 147 gr load in your G19? They'll not expand very much at 950 FPS.

I have never tried factory-loaded 147gr bullets in my G17. :cool:



Then how can you say that they won't sufficiently expand if
you haven't used them?

Warp
11-15-2012, 12:32
So why, may I ask, do you prefer a 147 gr load in your G19? They'll not expand very much at 950 FPS.

They will do just fine.

SCmasterblaster
11-15-2012, 14:57
I am not sure what you are saying, but if it is to say that the Federal and Winchester 9mm 115gr +p+'s do not go above 1300 fps in a Glock 19, you should not base your point on one gun, or one box of rounds. I get over 1,300 fps for 9BPLE out of both of my G19's and have exceeded 1,350 for the Winchester round out of the same guns. BTW, these two rounds are very effective and my choice before any 147gr round.

for the chrono data confirming 1350 FPS in G19s.