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smanocchio
11-09-2012, 21:44
Im starting to get to the point where ordering online in bulk will be the way to go to save some money. I noticed wolf primers are substantially cheaper than CCI. Do any of you guys have any experience or opinions on these primers? Any input would be appreciated. I will mainly be loading 223 and 40/45 with them.

Ive been using CCI, No41 for 223, and normal small/large pistol for 40/45. Would I notice any difference switching?

MAC702
11-09-2012, 23:43
I can't tell you if there will be any differences in performance as I don't do that kind of testing.

But I have used tens of thousands of Wolf primers, including the SRM for .223 loads, and LP for .45 ACP and .45 Colt.

They go bang everytime.

smanocchio
11-10-2012, 06:05
Thanks for the reply mac. Im in the same boat as you, and I mainly just load plinking ammo. I found a few other forums and it seems the general consensus is they usually work good. Guess its time to place a bulk order for some and give them a try.

$14/1k is amazing compared to the $33/1k Ive been paying for the CCI No41 primers.

gwalchmai
11-10-2012, 06:15
I've run thousands of Wolf and Tulas (they both come from the same plant, I think), and they've been fine. About the same hardness as Winchesters in my experience.

Hoser
11-10-2012, 06:31
I use lots of the small rifle magnum primers. No issues at all.

smanocchio
11-10-2012, 07:17
Thanks for giving me some reassurance in my soon to be purchase guys.

390ish
11-10-2012, 14:10
I shoot a lot of Tula primers for 45 acp and they are great.

MoparMan1991
11-10-2012, 15:47
Whatever the primers are in my WPA .308 are hard as a rock or something. I can't get my rifle to fire those damned things on the first trigger pull for the life of me.

gwalchmai
11-10-2012, 18:07
Usually when it takes a second strike or more it's a seating problem.

michael e
11-10-2012, 18:10
Used TULA since was half price. Have ran them threw several guns with no failures. Used LPP and SPP from them.

MAC702
11-10-2012, 18:21
Whatever the primers are in my WPA .308 are hard as a rock or something. I can't get my rifle to fire those damned things on the first trigger pull for the life of me.

Well, what rifle, and can we assume you've tested it with other brands of ammo?

MoparMan1991
11-10-2012, 21:10
Well, what rifle, and can we assume you've tested it with other brands of ammo?

Thompson Center Venture .308

I've used Winchester, Prvi Partizan, Hornady, and Fiocchi to name a few. The WPA ammo I got from LuckyGunner just doesn't want to fire.

Sometimes it shoots the first time, mostly not though. I read that the primers are thicker to prevent a slam fire in military semi auto rifles.

shotgunred
11-10-2012, 23:08
I use them for the AR.

Bello
11-11-2012, 12:15
I use Tula for range plinkers; cci for my gun games.

Rob

SWIMMER
11-13-2012, 15:30
I know they go bang but are Tula primers corresive? Thanks.

MarcDW
11-13-2012, 15:46
I bought years ago 5k of Wolf SR primers when everything was "out".
They worked just fine in my .223's.
I did not buy them anymore since Federal and Winchester came available again and I don't buy Russian or Chinese if I have the choice.


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SBray
11-13-2012, 16:13
I believe Wolf is made by the same plant that made PMC primers. I had bought three sleeves of PMC shotgun primers a few years ago and thought they were great! They seemed to be consistent with Winchester primers. I wouldn't hesitate buying Wolf, or PMC primers, especially at the right price.

JMHO,

Steve

SWIMMER,

They are non-corrosvie.

gwalchmai
11-13-2012, 18:03
Wolf/Tula primers are non-corrosive. PMC is a South Korean company and I don't think they get their primers from Tula.

SBray
11-13-2012, 18:49
Wolf/Tula primers are non-corrosive. PMC is a South Korean company and I don't think they get their primers from Tula.

Perhaps they changed ownership and locations over the years.

Here is a thread that once described them on Accurate Shooter:

http://bulletin.accurateshooter.com/2008/08/sources-for-wolf-russian-primers-grafs-pvi-wideners/

gwalchmai
11-14-2012, 04:33
Perhaps they changed ownership and locations over the years.

Here is a thread that once described them on Accurate Shooter:

http://bulletin.accurateshooter.com/2008/08/sources-for-wolf-russian-primers-grafs-pvi-wideners/

Thanks. I'd never heard of that.

Boxerglocker
11-14-2012, 07:28
I use lots of the small rifle magnum primers. No issues at all.

I do as well. It's pretty much the only ones I use for ARs.

Do a search over at M4 Carbine and you'll find lots of data regarding the use of Wolf SRM and the general consensus that they are actually one of the better primers to use for ARs (very low SDs). I load 69 grainers to shoot out to 300-400 at 3-gun with Wolf very good results.

TX Archer
11-14-2012, 07:49
I've seen people say that Wolf and Tula are the same primers from the same plant, just branded differently. Is there any evidence of this or is it just supposition because they both come from the same country?

dla
11-14-2012, 08:31
Just be aware that Wolf Large Pistol Magnum primers suck. They are NOT hotter than their regular primer and they will cause wide velocity variations in 44 mag with slow powders (H110/296, Enforcer). The CCI 350 is a very good primer in comparison and worth the price.

ejs54
11-14-2012, 15:24
I have good luck with their Large Pistol. Looks like post above me says the mags may have issues tho.

jdavionic
11-17-2012, 18:03
I've shot many thousands in matches. Never had a problem with them. I have noticed that they tend to be a tighter fit...just a little harder to seat. Could just be me though.

blk69stang
11-17-2012, 18:18
I bought 1000 each of the Wolf LP and LR primers. I've only shot about 100 LR loads so far, but they all went bang out of my M1 Garand with no issues.

cajun_chooter
11-18-2012, 06:41
anyone using them in Glocks ? i need to order primers and they sure are much cheaper than CCI, Rem or Win..

jdavionic
11-18-2012, 07:00
anyone using them in Glocks ? i need to order primers and they sure are much cheaper than CCI, Rem or Win..

Yes. I shoot USPSA matches with Glocks (and other guns). And I've used Wolf primers (1000s) without a problem.

leeward419
11-19-2012, 04:07
I have used tens of thousands of wolf small pistol, and large pistol primers, I had noticed I get 1-3 per thousand that dont fire. At the time the primers were all I could get.

FLSlim
11-19-2012, 10:17
I seem to regularly have bad SPP from Wolf (maybe 1%), but for range use, who cares if you get a good deal on them. With Wolf LPP, I don't recall ever having one not light off the powder.

Boxerglocker
11-19-2012, 10:21
Yes. I shoot USPSA matches with Glocks (and other guns). And I've used Wolf primers (1000s) without a problem.

I have as well but always switch back to a 6# striker spring.

Messenger
11-24-2012, 10:33
I've had great results with large and small Wolf pistol primers. The small pistol primer requires a little more of a grunt to seat them though.

smanocchio
11-24-2012, 13:16
I received my order of 10k wolf small rifle magnum primers this week. Hopefully some time this weekend Ill be able to load up some .223 and test them out next time I head to the range.

Seems like people have more problems with the small pistol primers. Since I can't find those as cheap as I did the wolf rifle primers, maybe Ill just stick with CCI for the pistol loads.

xdmikey
11-25-2012, 20:57
I had a little bit of failure(1percent has been mentioned)with these, then I ran across a deal on fiocchi and switched then my life went south and now I'm back and ready to get back reloading!