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Louisville Glocker
11-10-2012, 01:11
An interview from early this year:

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frizz
11-10-2012, 01:24
Her book's title is All In. Hmmmm...

CanMan
11-10-2012, 01:35
http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSb_hv5_LBeMqO7qPWzxDAirH6Z9IZvG0bPErhQhrGd2d6QLo3QoA

It really was a hard choice!

http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRYI3Y5ILf4TreP7gpi9KT7qPwca8H_rXkS4XiUcio1XvQBoOWr

Or: A hard richard has no conscience.

mymini40
11-10-2012, 03:38
Id cheat too if she looked like that.

frizz
11-10-2012, 05:22
Id cheat too if she looked like that.
It would be hard to say no.

Baba Louie
11-10-2012, 05:31
Honor :whistling:

SouthpawG26
11-10-2012, 05:31
Ok, so he's out for improper use of his standard issue equipment..

And I don't mean his M9...:rofl:

frizz
11-10-2012, 05:38
Ok, so he's out for improper use of his standard issue equipment..

And I don't mean his M9...:rofl:
The DoD is pretty strict about issued equipment. There were some SEALS who got in trouble for just showing their equipment...

TBO
11-10-2012, 05:48
Bayonets!

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GlockPride
11-10-2012, 06:00
Not my style at all, but she is cute. I give her a 6 out of 10.

raven11
11-10-2012, 06:04
Her book's title is All In. Hmmmm...

:rofl::rofl:

HalfHazzard
11-10-2012, 06:05
Stewart: "Is he awesome or incredible."

AWKWARD

That whole interview is just weird after knowing.

Java Junky
11-10-2012, 06:09
Too much shufflin' goin' on.
'Great way to cover tracks'n I can't help but see red flags in all'a this.

Mr. Scott: prepare for a major reamin'.
(Aye Ca'n . . but she's shakin'erself ta pieces!)

TBO
11-10-2012, 06:09
Not my style at all, but she is cute. I give her a 6 out of 10.

Keep in mind the General is 60.

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Narkcop
11-10-2012, 06:12
I'd be willing to bet that she's not the only one:whistling:

hamster
11-10-2012, 06:15
Her book's title is All In. Hmmmm...

That's what she said?

frizz
11-10-2012, 06:18
Keep in mind the General is 60.


If I do understand your meaning...

"Power is the ultimate aphrodisiac." -Kissinger (A very ugly man who got the girls.)

iLift45's
11-10-2012, 06:24
Apparently his old lady wasn't doing something for him! And he was suppose to testify in the Benghazi incident. Amazing the timing on this.

John Rambo
11-10-2012, 06:30
Keep in mind the General is 60.

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****, I'm less than half his age and I wouldn't kick that outta bed.

DairyFresh
11-10-2012, 06:35
Interesting to note, in the first minute of the interview, Jon Stewart notes that Stanley Mchrystal (sp) also had a journalist embedded with him, and he ended up being fired. Petraeus gets blackmailed after he had this journalist embedded with him.

Are these so called journalists really acting as commissars for the Obama regime?

LoadToadBoss
11-10-2012, 06:50
So the title of her book about Petraeus is a double entendre?
http://www.gannett-cdn.com/media/USATODAY/USATODAY/2012/11/09/ap-petraeus-resigns-4_3_r560.jpg

Dennis in MA
11-10-2012, 06:59
Honor :whistling:

He was honor. Two or three times a week. Bada-bum!


That's what she asked?

Fixed. Lol

I like the guy. Sorry he messed up 2 marriages. Gallows humor.

TBO
11-10-2012, 07:03
Q. What's better than honor?

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jpa
11-10-2012, 07:16
Q. What's better than honor?

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Inner? :tongueout:

Clinton got away with a BJ and admitted it to the American public...why doesn't he get to get a little strange?

I find it a little convenient that right after the election and before the hearings on Libya he's all "I had an affair, I resign. Peace!" and Clinton's talking about "retiring"...

ysr_racer
11-10-2012, 07:48
http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSb_hv5_LBeMqO7qPWzxDAirH6Z9IZvG0bPErhQhrGd2d6QLo3QoA

It really was a hard choice!

http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRYI3Y5ILf4TreP7gpi9KT7qPwca8H_rXkS4XiUcio1XvQBoOWr

Or: A hard richard has no conscience.

That's a man, baby !!!

napp32
11-10-2012, 08:12
Infidelity is not an uncommon occurrence in the military community. The separations caused by unaccompanied tours and TDY trips are conducive to transgressions by both parties in a marriage.

cowboywannabe
11-10-2012, 08:32
some folks have to work at keeping themselves looking good. betrayus' wife simply didnt think he was worth the effort to keep herself up.

CanMan
11-10-2012, 08:48
Keep in mind the General is 60


Does that mean 6" ten times or 10" 6 times?

zorro49
11-10-2012, 08:57
Now it is clear where she came up with the title of her book:cool:

GVFlyer
11-10-2012, 09:06
Character counts. I worked with Dave Petraeus from '87-'91 and he is the last guy on the planet that I would have thought would meet his professional demise due character deficiencies. I'm both astonished and disappointed.

Sporaticus
11-10-2012, 09:17
So is it okay now to call him "General Betreus"? Or would it be Betraher?

lunarspeak
11-10-2012, 09:28
So is it okay now to call him "General Betreus"? Or would it be Betraher?

he just had a affair,it really isnt a big deal...now im wondering if it was just sex or does she love him or was it all for the book

SouthpawG26
11-10-2012, 09:38
He was honor. Two or three times a week. Bada-bum!


She was embedded, after all...

czsmithGT
11-10-2012, 10:16
Infidelity is not an uncommon occurrence in the military community. The separations caused by unaccompanied tours and TDY trips are conducive to transgressions by both parties in a marriage.

This is true. Probably a lot more high ranking officers than we know about. Everyone has heard the stories about Ike and Patton. Doesn't make them bad officers, and Ike even became president, although as I recall the press didn't really talk about his military dalliances until later although they surely knew about them.

That said, there is a difference between what the General may have done while stationed in Afghanistan and what is required as head of the CIA. You can't expect to get away with that and remain head of one of our front line intelligence operations. Puts him too much at risk for blackmail. I'm quite surprised he passed the background check for the CIA job, although I did read it was the CIA itself rather than the FBI who did the check which seems strange.

I bet in the fullness of time when most of the story comes out, his affair had some impact on what decisions were made and what reports came out of the CIA in the run up to and aftermath of the Benghazi attack. Right now it doesn't appear to be the CIA's finest hour, and Petraeus' testimony to Congress in the aftermath is odd to say the least.

All in all a sad day for one of our best military leaders.

Sporaticus
11-10-2012, 10:41
he just had a affair,it really isnt a big deal...now im wondering if it was just sex or does she love him or was it all for the book

If you really think it wasn't a big deal, that calls your integrity into question. If it wasn't a big deal, he wouldn't be stepping down, or the story wouldn't be as significant.

It IS a big deal. Which is why he is stepping down from a very important position. And why his reputation will be tarnished in the annals of history. All those ribbons on his chest, negated by a series of bad decisions.

Averageman
11-10-2012, 10:50
he just had a affair,it really isnt a big deal...now im wondering if it was just sex or does she love him or was it all for the book
The point lost on this was that he was one of the Authors of General Order Number 1.
Everyone who made a bad decision and got busted for Sex, Drinking, Porn, hell; even Smoking Dope should be able to walk up and punch him right in the snot box without any repercussions.
He made rules even he couldn't live by and they punished others for the same infractions.
While you were on patrol he was laying up with her getting his brass shined.

HollowHead
11-10-2012, 11:00
he just had a affair,it really isnt a big deal...

This is very disturbing. HH

janice6
11-10-2012, 11:02
My wife is toast.

Kingarthurhk
11-10-2012, 11:05
http://i.i.com.com/cnwk.1d/i/tim/2012/10/10/bebenewirth_620x465.jpg

jtull7
11-10-2012, 11:07
She Offered Her Honor, He Honored Her Offer, and All Through the Night It Was Honor and Offer.

railfancwb
11-10-2012, 12:09
She Offered Her Honor, He Honored Her Offer, and All Through the Night It Was Honor and Offer.

Cha-Ching! We have a winner!


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Generalcarry
11-10-2012, 12:27
If you really think it wasn't a big deal, that calls your integrity into question. If it wasn't a big deal, he wouldn't be stepping down, or the story wouldn't be as significant.

It IS a big deal. Which is why he is stepping down from a very important position. And why his reputation will be tarnished in the annals of history. All those ribbons on his chest, negated by a series of bad decisions.



How about Commander-In-Chief Bill Clinton and a girl with a blue dress in the Oval Office? Doesn't a CIC trump 4 stars? Oh yeah :shame::shame::shame:, that was just Bill being Bill.

Carrys
11-10-2012, 12:49
I don't care what this does to the General, he made his choices. And to be honest, I'm not sure he in fact did it.

But what does strike me, is how many so called "men" here would toss their partner aside after the years may not have been as kind to her as he wanted. Never mind that she may have put up with him and his crap for 30 years, loved and honored him for 30 years.......she doesn't look like a hot young cutie any longer......she must go.

Yeah, what men.

HollowHead
11-10-2012, 12:53
But what does strike me, is how many so called "men" here would toss their partner aside after the years may not have been as kind to her as he wanted. Never mind that she may have put up with him and his crap for 30 years, loved and honored him for 30 years.......she doesn't look like a hot young cutie any longer......she must go.

Yeah, what men.

Hell must have just frozen over as I actually agree with you for once. HH

janice6
11-10-2012, 13:13
I don't care what this does to the General, he made his choices. And to be honest, I'm not sure he in fact did it.

But what does strike me, is how many so called "men" here would toss their partner aside after the years may not have been as kind to her as he wanted. Never mind that she may have put up with him and his crap for 30 years, loved and honored him for 30 years.......she doesn't look like a hot young cutie any longer......she must go.

Yeah, what men.


You really believe everything you see and hear.

mac66
11-10-2012, 14:13
he just had a affair,it really isnt a big deal...now im wondering if it was just sex or does she love him or was it all for the book

No, it's a really big deal. He is the head of the CIA and she got classified documents out of him. Can you say "national security compromised"? There is a reason why people like Petraus shouldn't be messing around with anybody let alone a journalist.

RonS
11-10-2012, 16:16
And Rommel was killed by an allied fighter bomber while serving at the front.

HollowHead
11-10-2012, 16:30
And Rommel was killed by an allied fighter bomber while serving at the front.

So Petraeus banging his biographer is a cover story? If they wanted him out, why not have him admit to stealing office supplies or something that wouldn't drag his wife and family into it? Didn't the head of the FAA (or something) bow out gracefully with just a D.U.I. arrest? HH

Sporaticus
11-10-2012, 16:35
How about Commander-In-Chief Bill Clinton and a girl with a blue dress in the Oval Office? Doesn't a CIC trump 4 stars? Oh yeah :shame::shame::shame:, that was just Bill being Bill.

Was I defending Klinton? Do two wrongs make a right?

Newt Gingrich, a serial adulterer ran for the republican party nomination. I didn't support him. But he will run again, and he will have a good chance of getting the nomination. Then when he loses, the republican party will start wondering why once again, they lost.

America has decided that adultery is okay. I didn't. Petraeus is the head of the CIA, and adultery makes him blackmailable, even though I don't think he would go so far as to betray the nation.

But just because America has lost it moral standards, doesn't mean adultery is right.

4949shooter
11-10-2012, 16:41
It wasn't okay for Clinton and it wasn't okay for Patreus.

Actually, as head of the CIA, it was worse on the part of Patreus.

Sporaticus
11-10-2012, 16:42
David Axelrod: General, when you go before the Congressional committee investigating Benghazi, we need to you stick to the story we have presented. Certain things don't really need to be recounted or mentioned.

Petraes: I will be under oath, and will tell the truth.

David Axelrod: General, the "truth" is not always black or white. There can often be truth in just about anything you say, if you say it right. I need you to assure me you will stick to the story.

Petraes: I will be under oath, and will tell the truth.

David Axelrod: General, does the name Paula Broadwell ring any bells? We know certain things...... and it would be a shame if your family found out.

Petraes: Perjury is a felony. Adultery isn't. I will tell the truth under oath.


So either Petraes put the information out there to take away the administrations leverage, or word got leaked.

czsmithGT
11-10-2012, 16:45
David Axelrod: General, when you go before the Congressional committee investigating Benghazi, we need to you stick to the story we have presented. Certain things don't really need to be recounted or mentioned.

Petraes: I will be under oath, and will tell the truth.

David Axelrod: General, the "truth" is not always black or white. There can often be truth in just about anything you say, if you say it right. I need you to assure me you will stick to the story.

Petraes: I will be under oath, and will tell the truth.

David Axelrod: General, does the name Paula Broadwell ring any bells? We know certain things...... and it would be a shame if your family found out.

Petraes: Perjury is a felony. Adultery isn't. I will tell the truth under oath.


So either Petraes put the information out there to take away the administrations leverage, or word got leaked.

Petraeus already lied before Congress when he testified a few days after Sept 11. So whatever caused him to resign now is not because he was threatened with being outed.

unit1069
11-10-2012, 17:10
Interesting to note, in the first minute of the interview, Jon Stewart notes that Stanley Mchrystal (sp) also had a journalist embedded with him, and he ended up being fired. Petraeus gets blackmailed after he had this journalist embedded with him.

Are these so called journalists really acting as commissars for the Obama regime?

I recall Colin Powell's 2008 endorsement of Candidate Barack Obama on live tv, where Powell was visibly unnerved and practically incoherent. At the time I wondered what the Radical Left was holding over his head, Powell's discomfort and shakiness was so obvious.

I do believe all high-visibility military, conservatives, moderates, Republican, Independent, and religious (excepting Islam, of course) be very wary of these "journalists".

It's also worth remembering that in McChrystal's case the Rolling Stone hack claimed that it was some troops under McChrystal's command who disrespected the Commander-In-Chief. I believe subsequent investigation into the matter proved that this hack deliberately fabricated certain incidents to promote the Left's agenda and because of his ability President Obama brought McChrystal back to contribute to our efforts in Afghanistan.

The greatest danger to America is the radicalized Leftist Media, not that any thinking person needs any more proof of their Marxist bias and adherence to Stalin's command, "All serve the Party".

fnfalman
11-10-2012, 19:38
Petreus should have gotten a freakin' medal!!!

fnfalman
11-10-2012, 19:40
If you really think it wasn't a big deal, that calls your integrity into question. If it wasn't a big deal, he wouldn't be stepping down, or the story wouldn't be as significant.

It IS a big deal. Which is why he is stepping down from a very important position. And why his reputation will be tarnished in the annals of history. All those ribbons on his chest, negated by a series of bad decisions.

No, it's not a big deal.

People are humand and not Christ or Buddha. They are fallable. I don't have an issue with some failings as long as they're no big deal. Extramarital sex is no big deal.

Benjamin Franklin did it. Thomas Jefferson did it. Ike did it.

HollowHead
11-10-2012, 19:49
Extramarital sex is no big deal.


Integrity is one of those things that costs nothing but its lack costs everything. HH

fnfalman
11-10-2012, 20:38
Integrity is one of those things that costs nothing but its lack costs everything. HH

While that's great and all, but tell me that you have never even made a white lie in your life?

Averageman
11-10-2012, 20:44
Petreus should have gotten a freakin' medal!!!
So while he punished his subordinates under General Order Number One, he was slipping her the gerkin and he needs a medal?
You might want to rethink that.

czsmithGT
11-10-2012, 20:44
No, it's not a big deal.

People are humand and not Christ or Buddha. They are fallable. I don't have an issue with some failings as long as they're no big deal. Extramarital sex is no big deal.

Benjamin Franklin did it. Thomas Jefferson did it. Ike did it.

Seems to me that there should be one person in 300 million who could have headed the CIA without the baggage of blackmail-baiting personal transgressions.

TBO
11-10-2012, 20:45
Zero sum arguments...

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427
11-10-2012, 20:49
No, it's not a big deal.

People are humand and not Christ or Buddha. They are fallable. I don't have an issue with some failings as long as they're no big deal. Extramarital sex is no big deal.

Benjamin Franklin did it. Thomas Jefferson did it. Ike did it.

He betrayed the person who trusted him the most. If he's willing to do that to the person who cares about him the most, what else is he willing to do?

Mrs. VR
11-10-2012, 20:50
Typically, I lean towards there always being two sides of a story, cheating doesn't happen in a vacuum, and I don't really care who people sleep with. That said, when you have a security clearance, which the gov paid tens of thousands of dollars for, it behooves you to NOT put yourself in compromising positions.

They ASK YOU FLAT OUT about stuff like this. You ARE held to a different standard, and if you want to keep your job, you damn sure live up to it.


Just stupid, stupid, stupid.

Averageman
11-10-2012, 20:51
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2230947/Sex-Under-Desk-David-Petraeus-resigns-head-CIA.htm
He betrayed the person who trusted him the most. If he's willing to do that to the person who cares about him the most, what else is he willing to do?
Aparently have sex under the desk with a writer who also was in the military.

HollowHead
11-10-2012, 21:07
While that's great and all, but tell me that you have never even made a white lie in your life?

If you don't know the difference between a white lie and banging another woman behind your wife's back, my answer is meaningless. HH

Averageman
11-10-2012, 21:09
If you don't know the difference between a white lie and banging another woman behind your wife's back, my answer is meaningless. HH
It would now luck more like multiple Women.
The original hacked his e-mail to scare off another Mistress.
Viagra, aint it a wonder drug.

HollowHead
11-10-2012, 21:20
It would now luck more like multiple Women.
The original hacked his e-mail to scare off another Mistress.
Viagra, aint it a wonder drug.

I can just imagine the late night punchlines if he had been a rear admiral. HH

fnfalman
11-10-2012, 22:30
If you don't know the difference between a white lie and banging another woman behind your wife's back, my answer is meaningless. HH

Let's just say that your priorities are mine are a wee bit different when it comes to sex and such. I don't see a bit of diddling as a big deal.

fnfalman
11-10-2012, 22:31
It would now luck more like multiple Women.
The original hacked his e-mail to scare off another Mistress.
Viagra, aint it a wonder drug.

General Sheridan said that a soldier who won't f, won't fight. Petraus was a pretty good fightin' soldier, which to me is a hell lot more important than a couple of stranges here and there.

HollowHead
11-10-2012, 22:54
Let's just say that your priorities are mine are a wee bit different when it comes to sex and such. I don't see a bit of diddling as a big deal.

Are you not single/never-married, Sir? HH

BlackPaladin
11-10-2012, 23:27
Someone already mentioned "the generals" general order in referance to acts punishable. I greatly dislike people who make rules that they cannot live by themselves.

In this matter, HH has it right.

fx77
11-11-2012, 04:13
So having an affair with Paula Broadwell was "bad judgement?"
I disagree..Having an affair with Janet Nepolitano is bad judgement. :)

frizz
11-11-2012, 04:28
I can just imagine the late night punchlines if he had been a rear admiral. HH
Lower half or upper half?

4949shooter
11-11-2012, 04:29
General Sheridan said that a soldier who won't f, won't fight. Petraus was a pretty good fightin' soldier, which to me is a hell lot more important than a couple of stranges here and there.

Granted Patreus was a good soldier. There are plenty of good soldiers out their who cheated on their spouses over the years. They were still good soldiers despite it.

However, Patreus achieved a position of significance and prestige in his life above that of the common soldier. By breaking his own rules and compromising United States security, he lost all of it.

Now instead of being the highly respected individual he was, he is just a common soldier. He gave it all up for a piece of ass. Do you want us to respect him now?

Bren
11-11-2012, 05:16
Now instead of being the highly respected individual he was, he is just a common soldier. He gave it all up for a piece of ass. Do you want us to respect him now?

Have to agree with fnfalman and Gen. Sheridan on this. Soldiers are hired to kill people and break things, not teach Sunday School and help lost puppies. On a forum where most seem to live in Mr. Rogers' Neighborhood, that may be hard to understand.

Bruce H
11-11-2012, 05:39
The SOB broke his word to his wife. How many others did he break his word to.

4949shooter
11-11-2012, 06:20
Have to agree with fnfalman and Gen. Sheridan on this. Soldiers are hired to kill people and break things, not teach Sunday School and help lost puppies. On a forum where most seem to live in Mr. Rogers' Neighborhood, that may be hard to understand.

Yes, as I said, his extramarital affair(s) did not negatively impact his performance as a soldier.

As head of the CIA is where he balked.

happyguy
11-11-2012, 06:30
No, it's not a big deal.

People are humand and not Christ or Buddha. They are fallable. I don't have an issue with some failings as long as they're no big deal. Extramarital sex is no big deal.

Benjamin Franklin did it. Thomas Jefferson did it. Ike did it.

But Mom, Billy's parents let him do it!:crying:

Regards,
Happyguy :)

happyguy
11-11-2012, 06:38
Have to agree with fnfalman and Gen. Sheridan on this. Soldiers are hired to kill people and break things, not teach Sunday School and help lost puppies. On a forum where most seem to live in Mr. Rogers' Neighborhood, that may be hard to understand.

What he did as a soldier was a violation of the U.C.M.J.

It is a crime that military enlisted and officers all know is a crime and many careers have been ended because of it.

He was just lucky enough to keep it under wraps until he retired and unlucky enough that it came out during his tenure at the CIA.

We lost a great leader because he couldn't keep his pants zipped up and follow regulations.

Regards,
Happyguy :)

Kingarthurhk
11-11-2012, 09:44
Typically, I lean towards there always being two sides of a story, cheating doesn't happen in a vacuum, and I don't really care who people sleep with. That said, when you have a security clearance, which the gov paid tens of thousands of dollars for, it behooves you to NOT put yourself in compromising positions.

They ASK YOU FLAT OUT about stuff like this. You ARE held to a different standard, and if you want to keep your job, you damn sure live up to it.


Just stupid, stupid, stupid.

I agree it is stupid. Families get hurt by this sort of thing. However, it seems if you are military you get a "boys will be boys" mentality. For instance, compare and contrast the scandal in Colombia. The Secret Service was in serious hot water. However, the military guys involved got a pass.

50 Cent
11-11-2012, 12:30
Have to agree with fnfalman and Gen. Sheridan on this. Soldiers are hired to kill people and break things, not teach Sunday School and help lost puppies. On a forum where most seem to live in Mr. Rogers' Neighborhood, that may be hard to understand.

I agree - I don't want soldiers to be Red-Cross wannabes. Blow stuff up, terminate with extreme prejudice, XPD whatever you want to call it. Just try and keep it within the guidelines of the Geneva Convention or at least don't get caught going all Waffen-SS in front of a camera. I'll cut military personnel slack all day long as long as the bad-guy body count is respectable.

BUT NOT IF YOU ARE THE HEAD OF THE CIA. I'm not going to crucify him for an affair - I'm going to crucify him for being the head of our intelligence bureau and now subject to blackmail / pressure either offshore or domestic. Either could compromise our safety and get innocents killed.

cowboy1964
11-11-2012, 12:47
The lady can do some push ups.

All this talk about how he was the head of the CIA and subject to blackmail..... um, Bill Clinton???

Halojumper
11-11-2012, 13:04
Not my style at all, but she is cute. I give her a 6 out of 10.

No, not the bottom one. The top one!

faawrenchbndr
11-11-2012, 13:07
No, not the bottom one. The top one!

Top one,......nothing special.
Bottom one,.....scary.

Halojumper
11-11-2012, 13:10
Top one,......nothing special.
Bottom one,.....scary.

They ALL are!

HollowHead
11-11-2012, 13:37
The lady can do some push ups.

All this talk about how he was the head of the CIA and subject to blackmail..... um, Bill Clinton???

Hillary didn't care and Bill knew this. HH

Jake Starr
11-11-2012, 13:38
Maybe he was tired of the CIA and was practicing to become a Secret Service agent....:whistling:

czsmithGT
11-11-2012, 13:42
The lady can do some push ups.

All this talk about how he was the head of the CIA and subject to blackmail..... um, Bill Clinton???

Clinton was impeached for trying to cover it up by lying.

Java Junky
11-11-2012, 14:15
Evidently, I'm not alone:

http://video.foxnews.com/v/1961392548001/

Nestor
11-11-2012, 16:36
I'm sorry, but I guess that I'll never get it.
How his personal life has anything to do with his job, since this affair didn't affected the national security in any way (according to the Canadian media at least)?
WTF he did resign?
It's his personal thing whom he sleeps with...
Jeebuuss...

Sveke
11-11-2012, 16:40
The SOB broke his word to his wife. How many others did he break his word to.

If my wife looked like his, I'd be breaking her ass.....

If a wife thinks that years gone by equal letting yourself go to crap, she deserves it.

OK everyone freak out, my rear end is in the gym 4 days a week minimum. I'm certainly not gonna be some old fat guy. That's for sure. My wife knows it and works out too. 2 way street where I live.



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HollowHead
11-11-2012, 16:51
If my wife looked like his, I'd be breaking her ass.....

If a wife thinks that years gone by equal letting yourself go to crap, she deserves it.

OK everyone freak out, my rear end is in the gym 4 days a week minimum. I'm certainly not gonna be some old fat guy. That's for sure. My wife knows it and works out too. 2 way street where I live.



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That is so shallow, it shoud come with a "No Diving" warning. HH

wingryder
11-11-2012, 17:04
The point lost on this was that he was one of the Authors of General Order Number 1.
Everyone who made a bad decision and got busted for Sex, Drinking, Porn, hell; even Smoking Dope should be able to walk up and punch him right in the snot box without any repercussions.
He made rules even he couldn't live by and they punished others for the same infractions.
While you were on patrol he was laying up with her getting his brass shined.

QFT brother!

czsmithGT
11-11-2012, 17:07
I'm sorry, but I guess that I'll never get it.
How his personal life has anything to do with his job, since this affair didn't affected the national security in any way (according to the Canadian media at least)?
WTF he did resign?
It's his personal thing whom he sleeps with...
Jeebuuss...

If he was stupid enough to get caught betraying the person he was married to for 35 years, do we really want him to head the nation's top intel agency?

HollowHead
11-11-2012, 17:13
If he was stupid enough to get caught betraying the person he was married to for 35 years, do we really want him to head the nation's top intel agency?

This. Has John Profumo taught us nothing? HH

wingryder
11-11-2012, 17:15
No, it's a really big deal. He is the head of the CIA and she got classified documents out of him. Can you say "national security compromised"? There is a reason why people like Petraus shouldn't be messing around with anybody let alone a journalist.

+1!!! I am just catching this thread, but there is a ton of great points here!

When I was in the Military (late '80's) I had a pretty high level security clearance. We were obligated to report ANY contact we had with foreign nationals, or media! In Europe, it was Standard Operating Procedure to target people with Clearances and extort and blackmale them for information. I would hope that a guy like Patraeus would know better!

I miss the TRUE military men in charge like Schwarzkopf!

happyguy
11-11-2012, 17:38
I don't see a bit of diddling as a big deal.

Nor lying it seems. Or breaking ones word.

Regards,
Happyguy :)

Nestor
11-11-2012, 17:39
If he was stupid enough to get caught betraying the person he was married to for 35 years, do we really want him to head the nation's top intel agency?

How about your Presidents than?

:rofl:

mad220860
11-11-2012, 17:42
One ugly *****!!

tsmo1066
11-11-2012, 17:46
The point lost on this was that he was one of the Authors of General Order Number 1.
Everyone who made a bad decision and got busted for Sex, Drinking, Porn, hell; even Smoking Dope should be able to walk up and punch him right in the snot box without any repercussions.
He made rules even he couldn't live by and they punished others for the same infractions.
While you were on patrol he was laying up with her getting his brass shined.

This!

I could overlook a lot if it weren't for the fact that this man destroyed the careers of other soldiers for violating the same order that he himself was violating wholesale.

The fact that he authored that order himself just takes the hypocrisy involved to a whole new level!

He is guilty of violating one of the oldest holy commandments in the military, "Never issue an order that you yourself are not willing to obey."

gjk5
11-11-2012, 17:49
he just had a affair,it really isnt a big deal...now im wondering if it was just sex or does she love him or was it all for the book

It is a big deal.

Cheaters are scumbags who cannot keep their word on one of the most important agreements you can make.

If you are tired of ****ing your wife divorce her, don't be a weak willed a-hole and cheat on her.

People fall out of love or even grow to despise their spouse. Be a man and accept it and move on. THEN put your peener in someone else.

gjk5
11-11-2012, 17:50
If my wife looked like his, I'd be breaking her ass.....

If a wife thinks that years gone by equal letting yourself go to crap, she deserves it.

OK everyone freak out, my rear end is in the gym 4 days a week minimum. I'm certainly not gonna be some old fat guy. That's for sure. My wife knows it and works out too. 2 way street where I live.



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You are really a class act Skeve, you make that clearer with every post.

HollowHead
11-11-2012, 17:53
How about your Presidents than?

:rofl:

You would be surprised just how little our Presidents actually know about ultra-black stuff. IIRC, FDR didn't even know about the Manhattan Project, and Truman had to be told what Trinity, Fatman and Little Boy were. HH

norton
11-11-2012, 17:59
This. Has John Profumo taught us nothing? HH

Christine Keeler.
Yowzah.

czsmithGT
11-11-2012, 18:17
How about your Presidents than?

:rofl:

Marriage cheaters and liars as President do not excuse the same in any head of other government agencies including Cabinet Officers, Congress and especially including the top National Security Agency leaders. This country is going down the drain fast and I wonder when the USA disappears where people who want to be free will go? Canada can't stand alone on this continent.

czsmithGT
11-11-2012, 18:20
You would be surprised just how little our Presidents actually know about ultra-black stuff. IIRC, FDR didn't even know about the Manhattan Project, and Truman had to be told what Trinity, Fatman and Little Boy were. HH

On December 6, the day before the bombing of Pearl Harbor, Roosevelt authorized the Manhattan Engineering District. The letter from Albert Einstein to President Franklin D. Roosevelt led to the Manhattan Engineering District, also known as "the Manhattan Project," a national crash program racing to develop atomic weapons before Nazi Germany.

faawrenchbndr
11-11-2012, 18:25
No, it's not a big deal.

People are humand and not Christ or Buddha. They are fallable. I don't have an issue with some failings as long as they're no big deal. Extramarital sex is no big deal.

Benjamin Franklin did it. Thomas Jefferson did it. Ike did it.

Just lost what little bit of respect I had for you, another Army man
with little to no scruples. :faint:

wingryder
11-11-2012, 18:27
The military and spook community aren't a social experiment! There are rigid and specific rules for a reason! Cheating on your spouse and fraternization is taken VERY seriously in the military for great reason... and it is NOT about the pain it causes your spouse! You dying in combat also causes pain to your spouse! It is more about your commitment to your mission, your judgement, your character, and your ability to be trusted... especially with CLASSIFIED INFORMATION!

Look, if you are just some 60 year old dude, working at the local factory, and Paris Hilton walks in and wants to take you home and eat crackers in your bed, GREAT, only you care about your wife's feelings... So, go for it dude! Sadly, the reality is that stuff like this never happens... because 25 year old hotties aren't usually attracted to 60 yo losers.

Now, there are several reasons why 25 yo women would be attracted to 60 yo men... Money or power.... OR INFORMATION! The USMJ is there for a reason! The code of conduct expected of Civil Servants who possess a security clearance is also very specific and there for a reason!

If you think cheating on your wife is okay, fine! I guess that is something that will only effect the two of you... But, the Military and the Government has a different take on it... that is, It say's a lot about your character and your ability to be trusted

czsmithGT
11-11-2012, 18:36
The military and spook community aren't a social experiment! There are rigid and specific rules for a reason! Cheating on your spouse and fraternization is taken VERY seriously in the military for great reason... and it is NOT about the pain it causes your spouse! You dying in combat also causes pain to your spouse! It is more about your commitment to your mission, your judgement, your character, and your ability to be trusted... especially with CLASSIFIED INFORMATION!

Look, if you are just some 60 year old dude, working at the local factory, and Paris Hilton walks in and wants to take you home and eat crackers in your bed, GREAT, only you care about your wife's feelings... So, go for it dude! Sadly, the reality is that stuff like this never happens... because 25 year old hotties aren't usually attracted to 60 yo losers.

Now, there are several reasons why 25 yo women would be attracted to 60 yo men... Money or power.... OR INFORMATION! The USMJ is there for a reason! The code of conduct expected of Civil Servants who possess a security clearance is also very specific and there for a reason!

If you think cheating on your wife is okay, fine! I guess that is something that will only effect the two of you... But, the Military and the Government has a different take on it... that is, It say's a lot about your character and your ability to be trusted

Very well said

4949shooter
11-11-2012, 19:32
Very well said

Agreed. Also, I just read General Order #1, and it specifically prohibits sexual encounters between non married personnel in a deployed environment.