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hpracing007
11-11-2012, 20:17
Thinking about it... a little pricey... Maybe towards the end of the week I can snag a couple of craigslist for cheaper.

I've never actually been to a major race of any type. Anyone know what exactly is a general admission ticket is?

Hurricanes
11-11-2012, 20:40
I would have loved to, but I don't have that kind of money to spend. Hotels were going for ridiculous amounts of money per night, and the ticket prices were pretty expensive. If I ever decide to spend that kind of money to see a Formula 1 race in person, I'll be watching it in Europe not in the States.
-Joel

Altaris
11-12-2012, 07:59
I think all car racing is pretty dumb (Nascar, F1, drag-racing), but with all of the hype around town this past month it has even got me tempted to try and watch it. I have quite a few friends that have tickets.

You are right about the hotel prices as well. I also have 3 different friends that live in apartments and condos downtown, that are renting them out for the week at insanely high prices.

slick64
11-12-2012, 08:13
I'll be there! Can't wait. This season has been one of the best ever.

Slug71
11-12-2012, 11:47
I wish. :o:(

Slug71
11-12-2012, 11:51
I think all car racing is pretty dumb (Nascar, F1, drag-racing), but with all of the hype around town this past month it has even got me tempted to try and watch it. I have quite a few friends that have tickets.

You are right about the hotel prices as well. I also have 3 different friends that live in apartments and condos downtown, that are renting them out for the week at insanely high prices.

F1 is very different from NASCAR and Drag racing. Its a lot like Indy Cars but sooo much more advanced. They sound incredible! The steering wheel alone cost something like $20,000!!:what:

slick64
11-12-2012, 12:05
F1 is very different from NASCAR and Drag racing. Its a lot like Indy Cars but sooo much more advanced. They sound incredible! The steering wheel alone cost something like $20,000!!:what:

A bit higher than that. Some are in the $60K and above range.

Each team is a manufacturer, and has to develop their own cars within certain guidelines. They have some of the best engineers in the world.

I have heard they spend more on catering, then some Nascar Teams use for a full season.

Its not just about the on-track racing that I enjoy, but the pursuit of technology and the competition between the top teams like McLaren and Ferrari who like Williams have been around awhile.

Red Bull has done an amazing job for not being in very long, but most of the credit goes to Adrian Newey for Design, and then Christian Horner for running the operation.

HollowHead
11-12-2012, 12:11
I used to go to the Meadowlands GP all the time back in the eighties. Great stuff... HH

Baba Louie
11-12-2012, 12:57
Been to a couple here in Las Vegas back in the day. Like other races, you get to see a blur of color whiz by, hear some awesome engine/gear shifting, but don't really get to see "the Big Picture".

Where you observe the race is important. A good Bar with a big screen TV is just about right. Or a seat with a view of a hairpin w/ straightaway either coming or going.

Bring a good camera and enjoy.

However, on a related note, most of the women are lean, lithe, fast, hot, colorful, fun to watch and, sadly, also priced way out of my league. :whistling:

phil evans
11-12-2012, 13:45
we live in austin, we will hunker down next week end and abandon the roadways&infrastructure to the interlopers.

boomhower
11-12-2012, 15:17
Nope. Ticket prices aren't to bad for what it is but hotel rates are absolutely insane.

A bit higher than that. Some are in the $60K and above range.

Each team is a manufacturer, and has to develop their own cars within certain guidelines. They have some of the best engineers in the world.

I have heard they spend more on catering, then some Nascar Teams use for a full season.

Its not just about the on-track racing that I enjoy, but the pursuit of technology and the competition between the top teams like McLaren and Ferrari who like Williams have been around awhile.

Red Bull has done an amazing job for not being in very long, but most of the credit goes to Adrian Newey for Design, and then Christian Horner for running the operation.

I don't know if it's that much but it is staggeringly large. Top NASCAR teams spend around 120mil/year(30mil car times four cars). Hendrick and Rousche are likely the only two that spend that much. F1 teams on the other spend around $250mil for two cars for the big three teams, though it's rumored Red Bull spent $350mil winning the 2011 title. So on average then spend around double. That's not at all surprising though. I'd hate to see what they spend a season just in travel costs. Flying the cars and equipment all over the world. Flying the crew, paying hotels, food, etc. The costs have to be staggering.

It's also the technical aspect of F1 that draws me in. Until DRS and Pirelli the races were typically extremely boring.

slick64
11-12-2012, 15:35
Nope. Ticket prices aren't to bad for what it is but hotel rates are absolutely insane.



I don't know if it's that much but it is staggeringly large. Top NASCAR teams spend around 120mil/year(30mil car times four cars). Hendrick and Rousche are likely the only two that spend that much. F1 teams on the other spend around $250mil for two cars for the big three teams, though it's rumored Red Bull spent $350mil winning the 2011 title. So on average then spend around double. That's not at all surprising though. I'd hate to see what they spend a season just in travel costs. Flying the cars and equipment all over the world. Flying the crew, paying hotels, food, etc. The costs have to be staggering.

It's also the technical aspect of F1 that draws me in. Until DRS and Pirelli the races were typically extremely boring.

You better double that number....I know McLaren and Ferrari were spending roughly $750M per year not that long ago.

robin303
11-12-2012, 15:42
Not going to the race but in charge of the helo operations at the KHYI [San Marcus] airport from 8am to 12pm Fri thru Sun and landings every 5 min. I heard 120,000 people and 70,000 from out of country. Do you believe these people are paying $1500 for two flights for 3 days for a 15 min flight.:faint: Don't know the price of tickets.:dunno:

slick64
11-12-2012, 15:52
Slight research has shown that the top teams have drastically cut budgets from the highs I previously stated. Red Bull had an estimated budget of 300M Euros, and McLaren was slightly higher.

Here are some numbers from 2009:
No. 1: Ferrari
Current Value: $1.05 billion
Owner: Fiat Group
Country: Italy
2009 Revenue: $308 million
2009 Operating Budget: $320 million
Major Sponsors: Marlboro, Shell

No. 2: McLaren Mercedes
Current Value: $805 million
Owners: Ron Dennis, TAG Group
Country: U.K.
2009 Revenue: $267 million
2009 Operating Budget: $385 million
Major Sponsors: Vodafone, Mobil 1

No. 3: Mercedes
Current Value: $260 million
Owner: Daimler
Country: Germany
2009 Revenue: $104 million
2009 Operating Budget: $140 million
Major Sponsors: Petronas, Autonomy

No. 4: Renault
Current Value: $245 million
Owners: Gerard Lopez, Eric Lux
Country: France
2009 Revenue: $176 million
2009 Budget: $295 million
Major Sponsors: Total, Bridgestone

No. 5: Red Bull
Current Value: $240 million
Owner: Red Bull
Country: Austria
2009 Revenue: $96 million
2009 Operating Budget: $175 million
Major Sponsors: Total, Rauch

No. 6: Williams
Current Value: $205 million
Owner: Frank Williams
Country: U.K.
2009 Revenue: $132 million
2009 Operating Budget: $150 million
Major Sponsors: AT&T, Philips, RBS

slick64
11-12-2012, 15:54
Not going to the race but in charge of the helo operations at the KHYI [San Marcus] airport from 8am to 12pm Fri thru Sun and landings every 5 min. I heard 120,000 people and 70,000 from out of country. Do you believe these people are paying $1500 for two flights for 3 days for a 15 min flight.:faint: Don't know the price of tickets.:dunno:

Convenience is everything. The race will be about schmoozing and entertaining sponsors and clients.

robin303
11-12-2012, 16:17
Convenience is everything. The race will be about schmoozing and entertaining sponsors and clients.

You got that right. One of the big wigs is Bill Gates. I doubt I see him but who knows. I want to mess with him and tell him I have a problem with my digital mouse.:rofl:

slick64
11-12-2012, 17:01
You got that right. One of the big wigs is Bill Gates. I doubt I see him but who knows. I want to mess with him and tell him I have a problem with my digital mouse.:rofl:

The IT Industry Leaders are all involved highly in F1. CFD is one of the leading technologies for the teams. They have some of the most advanced computers in the world.

hpracing007
11-12-2012, 17:13
Are they for sure doing it next year? (Don't know how the F1 contracts work) I might wait meh

slick64
11-12-2012, 17:24
Are they for sure doing it next year? (Don't know how the F1 contracts work) I might wait meh

TX is coughing up $25M per year for the rights to host the race. We'll see.....mostly Governments pay that fee.

robin303
11-12-2012, 17:37
Are they for sure doing it next year? (Don't know how the F1 contracts work) I might wait meh

I was told every year. That plus 4 more events. One was motorcycles and other type of races and also two music events.

Altaris
11-12-2012, 17:40
They are going to have to expand the road leading to it at some point. I had several co-workers do the run around the track last week. I heard there was quite a bit of traffic with just that, and the people running were only a tiny fraction of what will show up for an actual event.

TK-421
11-12-2012, 17:48
I would go if I didn't have to pay for a ticket, especially since I'm so close. However, with ticket prices being high, I'll just either watch it at home, or a bar, if I feel like drinking.

Slug71
11-12-2012, 17:49
Slight research has shown that the top teams have drastically cut budgets from the highs I previously stated. Red Bull had an estimated budget of 300M Euros, and McLaren was slightly higher.


They cut budgets a few years ago to a certain limit. Whatever the top teams spend now is about what poorer teams could always only afford.
One of the biggest costs was fuel. Thats why we no longer see pit stops for fuel.

Of the changes, was going to a 2.4L V8 from a 3.0L V10.
Those engines can now run a full race reliably at 18000rpm(governed by the FIA, they can reliably run at 21000rpm) VS having 1 or 2 pit stops with the V10s(18000rpm).

All the electronics in cars coming out now, were used in one way or another by F1 Cars/Teams 10 years ago.
A perfect example is the Paddle shifter behind the steering wheel. Fords now are coming out with them.

Just think of the reliability and efficiency thats to come.

boomhower
11-12-2012, 21:07
They cut budgets a few years ago to a certain limit. Whatever the top teams spend now is about what poorer teams could always only afford.
One of the biggest costs was fuel. Thats why we no longer see pit stops for fuel.

Of the changes, was going to a 2.4L V8 from a 3.0L V10.
Those engines can now run a full race reliably at 18000rpm(governed by the FIA, they can reliably run at 21000rpm) VS having 1 or 2 pit stops with the V10s(18000rpm).

All the electronics in cars coming out now, were used in one way or another by F1 Cars/Teams 10 years ago.
A perfect example is the Paddle shifter behind the steering wheel. Fords now are coming out with them.

Just think of the reliability and efficiency thats to come.

They are changing to turbo V6's in 2014.

Slight research has shown that the top teams have drastically cut budgets from the highs I previously stated. Red Bull had an estimated budget of 300M Euros, and McLaren was slightly higher.

Here are some numbers from 2009:
No. 1: Ferrari
Current Value: $1.05 billion
Owner: Fiat Group
Country: Italy
2009 Revenue: $308 million
2009 Operating Budget: $320 million
Major Sponsors: Marlboro, Shell

No. 2: McLaren Mercedes
Current Value: $805 million
Owners: Ron Dennis, TAG Group
Country: U.K.
2009 Revenue: $267 million
2009 Operating Budget: $385 million
Major Sponsors: Vodafone, Mobil 1

No. 3: Mercedes
Current Value: $260 million
Owner: Daimler
Country: Germany
2009 Revenue: $104 million
2009 Operating Budget: $140 million
Major Sponsors: Petronas, Autonomy

No. 4: Renault
Current Value: $245 million
Owners: Gerard Lopez, Eric Lux
Country: France
2009 Revenue: $176 million
2009 Budget: $295 million
Major Sponsors: Total, Bridgestone

No. 5: Red Bull
Current Value: $240 million
Owner: Red Bull
Country: Austria
2009 Revenue: $96 million
2009 Operating Budget: $175 million
Major Sponsors: Total, Rauch

No. 6: Williams
Current Value: $205 million
Owner: Frank Williams
Country: U.K.
2009 Revenue: $132 million
2009 Operating Budget: $150 million
Major Sponsors: AT&T, Philips, RBS

Sorry, I'm just not buying that. Everything I've seen says Red Bull spent $300mil+ in 2011.

dac1204
11-12-2012, 22:25
They are changing to turbo V6's in 2014.



Sorry, I'm just not buying that. Everything I've seen says Red Bull spent $300mil+ in 2011.


They probably did considering that estimate is from 2009.

Left-Right
11-13-2012, 07:01
I think you can get 95% of the experience by attending the practice sessions and qualifying, then skipping the race. For me, the two best things about F1 are 1) the sounds, and 2) watching the abrupt changes in direction. Also, you have more freedom to move around the track during those two days. Don't know if they sell day tickets or if you have to buy the complete race package, but it would be worth looking into.

hpracing007
11-15-2012, 22:50
http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/21663_10100685087286473_881290058_n.jpg

:dancingbanana:

If someone told me a month ago that I would finally have a job I enjoy going to, live in a sweet apartment, and attend an F1 race... I would have called b.s.!

Clutch Cargo
11-16-2012, 03:14
I never pay for a hotel room in most any part of the U.S. and many parts of the world. I stay at a Brothers home.

Slug71
11-17-2012, 13:13
Wish I was going. :(
Busy watching the Qualifying now on DVR.

Slug71
11-17-2012, 13:14
They are changing to turbo V6's in 2014.


Yup. Though its not yet 100% confirmed last I read. I believe theyre gonna be twin-turbo 1.6L V6s.

MooseJaw
11-17-2012, 15:43
GP weekends at the Glenn.. back in the early 70's..

3 days of infield camping, bonfires, mud, women, a little drinking.. and oh yeah, a race..


Hope you enjoy your 2 hrs in a bleacher seat, watching a video screen.. :whistling:

220-9er
11-17-2012, 16:40
GP weekends at the Glenn.. back in the early 70's..

3 days of infield camping, bonfires, mud, women, a little drinking.. and oh yeah, a race..


Hope you enjoy your 2 hrs in a bleacher seat, watching a video screen.. :whistling:

And for $5 you could walk down the center of the garage and talk to the team members and even some of the drivers.
The weather wasn't so great a few times though.

MarinePride
11-17-2012, 19:25
I refuse to add to the wealth of the Ecclestone family who runs F1. I'm sick of seeing his daughter Tamarra in the Daily Mail lounging about on a beach somewhere, breaking up with someone, or buying another mansion.

hpracing007
11-17-2012, 22:18
http://youtu.be/kA1D0tHuEFg
Clip from qualifying

http://youtu.be/6VLnfOAODhY
Clip from historic f1 race