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rsagona1
11-12-2012, 15:03
Hey guys,
I've got 9 weeks left of a 27 week academy. Family & friends are asking me what I need as graduation/birthday gifts.

I've been keeping a list, I was wondering if you could offer me specific product suggestions.


Duty Bag-

I'd like a bag that will sit in the trunk and carry everything from books, notepads, my small first aid kit given to me, my issued camera and forensics kit.

Edit: This is one I have been looking at: http://www.511tactical.com/All-Products/Bags-Backpacks/Patrol/Patrol-Ready.html

Handheld flashlight-

I'd like a good Surefire handheld light that can attach to your gunbelt. Surefire has a lot of models, I don't want it rechargable. Any suggestions? I can't stand the Maglight, you can't run in it. Granted, I will keep the maglight in the car.


That's about it (for now..)

Thank you.

Patchman
11-12-2012, 16:01
Back up /off duty gun (your flavor).
Off duty holster.
Trauma plate for your Level IIIA vest.
(A Level IIIA vest if your agency doesn't issues one)
Handy dandy multi-tool.
Second pair of cuffs.

I waver back and forth about a cell phone that's exclusively used for work.

I find if you're working nights, a rechargable flashlight is more economical. If you're working days, you can get by with a non-rechargable. I would also have a second light (LED-long burn time) that's used for evidence search, etc...

cowboywannabe
11-12-2012, 16:28
what does your agency not issue?

a BUG is always top on the list. hopefully a descent vest is issued.

blueiron
11-12-2012, 16:45
Keep the following in mind:

Some agencies carry a ton of equipment in the trunks of their units and officers can barely get a lunch box in them.

Other agencies carry next to nothing and you could carry a couple of fully loaded military duffles in the trunk.

and...

Some FTOs require you to have all your own gear ready each day and you'll work out of that gear. Some FTOs want you to work out of their gear, so you can see how they do it. Some FTOs will have you carry all your paperwork/gear and they will carry their's as well. With smaller cars like the Charger, Caprice/Impala, and Taurus; this can be a question of space.

With the above in mind, go talk to your agency FTOs and see what they want, since you will be responsible to them and have to fit in to what the agency and they want.

I'd would ask for gift certificates, so you can have time to buy the essentials that work for you.

Gombey
11-12-2012, 16:57
A good knife

RocPO
11-12-2012, 17:31
Extra cuffs.
Good flashlight. Battery junction has rechargeable CR 123s, I've been using them for a year and a half now with no problems in Surefire, Fenix and some other flashlight brand I forget the name of.
Extra magazines for duty gun.
Pens and notepads. Buy the big pack of notepads from officemax or staples. You'll be surprised how many you go through.
Ticket holder.
Economy size bottle of skell gel and 2 smaller containers for pocket carry. (Purell or your preference. I like germ x cause it smells good)
Cuff keys. The long kind.

boomhower
11-12-2012, 20:43
For your flashlight I have a Surefire V70 and a G2 LED and love them. I don't think that light is still made but I imagine they have something similar.
That 5.11 bag is very nice and will work well.
A nice metal clipboard, doubles as a blank report holder and writing surface.
Definitely a second set of handuffs and holder.
A decent multi-tool.
Trauma plate.
A BUG.
A rifle.
First aid kit, make sure it includes a CPR mask.
Summer and winter gloves.
A nice pair of sunglasses. Once you get your credentials you can get Oakley's for a song though US standard issue.
A couple extra mags to keep in your door pocket.


You'll go through a ton of gear and have a big pile of crap that doesn't work for you like the rest of us. Just claim your work gear on your taxes. If you can qualify with an off-duty buy a gun a year and write it off.

SCSU74
11-12-2012, 21:34
I'd look hard at the surefire fury series if you don't want rechargeable. If you change your mind the new surefire lawman is awesome.

Get a good knife, ZT blades are awesome I have a 300 it's a great blade.

Not sure what your policy is, but peacekeeper makes a bad ass baton, asp/monodnocks are pretty worthless.

Get a good pair of gloves, I haven't found any better than mechanix.

Good sunglasses, oakleys are the standard for a reason.


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EKUJustice
11-13-2012, 11:39
Good pair of boots if the ones the provide are junk.
Nice knife
2nd pair of cuffs colored ones are nice if allowed as its easier to get them back as to not hand over your nice new S&W and when you get them back receive a junk pair
Pocket recorder is nice also

boomhower
11-13-2012, 12:19
Also if you buy a second pair of cuffs get a pair of hinged. It's nice to have both as each are better at some situations than the other.

rockapede
11-13-2012, 12:28
Hey guys,
I've got 9 weeks left of a 27 week academy. Family & friends are asking me what I need as graduation/birthday gifts.

I've been keeping a list, I was wondering if you could offer me specific product suggestions.


Duty Bag-

I'd like a bag that will sit in the trunk and carry everything from books, notepads, my small first aid kit given to me, my issued camera and forensics kit.

Edit: This is one I have been looking at: http://www.511tactical.com/All-Products/Bags-Backpacks/Patrol/Patrol-Ready.html
Handheld flashlight-

I'd like a good Surefire handheld light that can attach to your gunbelt. Surefire has a lot of models, I don't want it rechargable. Any suggestions? I can't stand the Maglight, you can't run in it. Granted, I will keep the maglight in the car.


That's about it (for now..)

Thank you.

I use a large laptop backpack for my patrol bag. The computer slots are PERFECT for papers/folders and I can fit everything else I need to in the other pockets.

As for the light: if you want a Surefire the only one that interests me at a decent price is the Fury.

Other necessities:
-Extra mags
-Lots of batteries
-Tourniquet you can apply with one hand
-QuikClot
-flex cuffs
- a pocket flashlight that's bright enough to function as a primary if need be. My recommendation is the JetBeam BC10.
-back up gun if not issued but allowed
-couple of packs of cigarettes (no joke, people are MUCH more talkative when you give them a smoke)
-good folding knife. Doesn't have to be expensive, I've been carrying a $25 Kershaw Skyline for a while that's very nice.
-pocket voice recorder (cell phone app can work too)
-Leatherman or other multitool
-standard dust/allergy masks (great for spitters)
-hand sanitizer
-small thermos

All of the above either keep me safe or sane.

beatcop
11-13-2012, 12:52
See if there's a "clothing allowance"...how much, what can be purchased other than clothing. No sense in duplicating.

Report tin
spare badge or one piece job if you can (name,badge, ribbon)
good pens if you have a "dressy" type uniform
cruiser bag...galls is fine
gloves-thin black leather or fancy cut resistant
some vionex
"shorter" raincoat...goretex

RyanNREMTP
11-13-2012, 13:11
Good rain jacket or coat if you don't already have one.

I think the gift cards are the best answer thus far.

Sent from my Federation issued communicator.

Panzergrenadier1979
11-13-2012, 14:12
I have socks and T-shirts that I use exclusively for work; they are always on my Christmas list.

collim1
11-13-2012, 23:21
I prefer the seat back organizer to a bag. I have had this one for years.

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e90/collim1/d2950_Dp.jpg

A S&W jframe is hard to beat for a backup gun. If you are issued a Glock 17/22 then the G26/27 makes perfect sense.

Unless your agency issues CR123 batteries then I would not want a Surefire light for duty use. If they dont issue a duty light think about a Pelican or Streamlight rechargeable to carry on your belt, with the Magcharger as a backup.

BlackPaladin
11-13-2012, 23:56
Merano wool socks and a small digital recorder for your pocket.

Cochese
11-14-2012, 00:52
Hey guys,
I've got 9 weeks left of a 27 week academy. Family & friends are asking me what I need as graduation/birthday gifts.

I've been keeping a list, I was wondering if you could offer me specific product suggestions.


Duty Bag-

I'd like a bag that will sit in the trunk and carry everything from books, notepads, my small first aid kit given to me, my issued camera and forensics kit.

Edit: This is one I have been looking at: http://www.511tactical.com/All-Products/Bags-Backpacks/Patrol/Patrol-Ready.html

Handheld flashlight-

I'd like a good Surefire handheld light that can attach to your gunbelt. Surefire has a lot of models, I don't want it rechargable. Any suggestions? I can't stand the Maglight, you can't run in it. Granted, I will keep the maglight in the car.


That's about it (for now..)

Thank you.

Most 5.11 stuff is trash. Hate to say it but it's true.

http://www.lapolicegear.com/maoptaatbag.html

I would snag one of these.

I have a diplomatgear LAPG bag that is going on six years old. Full of molle and has **** attached all over. Bulletproof but they don't make them anymore.

Lights...

If you MUST have a Surefire...

http://www.surefire.com/illumination/flashlights/p2x-fury-dual-output.html

In a V70.

http://www.surefire.com/v70-speed-holster.html

If you can get over needing to have a SF...

http://site.gregmcgeeengineering.com/MC-G33.html

...or

http://nitecore.com/productDetail.aspx?id=70

Cochese
11-14-2012, 00:55
A good knife

Best patrol knife ever, IMO.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/KERSHAW-black-BLUR-ASSISTED-opening-Knife-1670TBLKST-tactical-tanto-tip-Blem-/280843577427#vi-content

merlynusn
11-14-2012, 04:06
If you get cigarettes, get a pack of Newports and a pack of Malboros. If you are in poorer areas, use the Newports, nicer areas, use the Malboros (or Camels) if you had to pick just one.

CW Mock
11-14-2012, 08:26
I have an Eagle Industries patrol bag - it's been a beast like most Eagle gear.

I have found the greatest challenge in a duty bag is resisting the temptation to carry 50 metric tons of stuff. If you have your own assigned car like I do, not as big a deal. For my unluckier LEOs working pool cars of questionable reliability - you are going to have to load and unload that pig daily, maybe more if your squad croaks. Less you have the easier it is. I carry just the essentials now:

Patrol bag with forms, pens, sanitizer, Nik kits/evidence gear, batteries, spare cuffs and ammo. MRE and some water. Basically if it don't fit in the bag, it don't go. It gets heavy fast.

Rifle in Eagle bag.

"War Bag" with Kevlar Pen15 helmet, gas mask, etc.

My campaign hat trap.

Ticket book.

I keep everything in the trunk but my ticket book. Nothing to shift or fly around in case of a crash/pursuit and nothing extra to tempt a CHUD from breaking the car window and stealing.

Just starting out, don't try and buy it all at once. Money can be tight, and honestly you might not make FTO/probation. Pass that, see what cops and FTOs in your department do and take notes. Everyone has their own style.


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11A
11-14-2012, 08:46
The only thing I would add to the list of what others have wrote is to get a weapon light, if you're allowed to have them by agency policy.


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SCSU74
11-14-2012, 11:41
Best patrol knife ever, IMO.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/KERSHAW-black-BLUR-ASSISTED-opening-Knife-1670TBLKST-tactical-tanto-tip-Blem-/280843577427#vi-content

Had one before my ZT, it is a great little knife for the price!


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Sharky7
11-14-2012, 11:43
Best patrol knife ever, IMO.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/KERSHAW-black-BLUR-ASSISTED-opening-Knife-1670TBLKST-tactical-tanto-tip-Blem-/280843577427#vi-content

I agree. It's affordable enough as well if you jack it up trying to gain access to a locked door, you aren't going to be too mad at yourself. I've been using that knife for about 5 years.

Sharky7
11-14-2012, 11:46
extra handcuffs, leg cuffs, spit socks, extra pistol/ar magazines, and a bail out bag.

It's tough when you get out of the academy right away - your view on certain types of gear will change over the next few years as you start to use them in the field. You will learn what you like and what to look for after some time on the street.

Congrats on your time at the academy!

Bruce M
11-14-2012, 12:54
Over the years have had some use for a pair of binoculars, in addition to some of the other stuff mentioned. Of course I also get some use from a bottle of ibuprophen and a box of bicarbonate of soda.

gigab1te
11-14-2012, 15:21
If your agency doesn't issue one, get a nice digital voice recorder.

Cochese
11-14-2012, 17:31
I agree. It's affordable enough as well if you jack it up trying to gain access to a locked door, you aren't going to be too mad at yourself. I've been using that knife for about 5 years.

Mine is a pry tool!

I love it.

beatcop
11-14-2012, 19:00
cheap slim jim, plastic wedge, and some 1/8" bendable wire rod has helped a lot of people out...sometime other cops who lock the key in the car.

One crazy friend had a maul he would pound door down with (take home car). Everyone laughed at him, but after you have busted a few doors with feet you start to think that wasn't such a bad idea.

Gills63
11-14-2012, 20:05
+1 on digital recorder. Don't know your weather but any under armour. Its hard when your just starting out, cause you don't know what works for you. Also a lot of the basics will be issued or covered in a uniform allowance.



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SCSU74
11-15-2012, 19:58
+1 on digital recorder. Don't know your weather but any under armour. Its hard when your just starting out, cause you don't know what works for you. Also a lot of the basics will be issued or covered in a uniform allowance.



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Love under armour. I wear the tnp t's, long compression shorts, and heat gear socks every day. Way more comfortable than regular T's and boxers


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rsagona1
11-16-2012, 08:35
Most 5.11 stuff is trash. Hate to say it but it's true.

http://www.lapolicegear.com/maoptaatbag.html

I would snag one of these.

I have a diplomatgear LAPG bag that is going on six years old. Full of molle and has **** attached all over. Bulletproof but they don't make them anymore.

Lights...

If you MUST have a Surefire...

http://www.surefire.com/illumination/flashlights/p2x-fury-dual-output.html

In a V70.

http://www.surefire.com/v70-speed-holster.html

If you can get over needing to have a SF...

http://site.gregmcgeeengineering.com/MC-G33.html

...or

http://nitecore.com/productDetail.aspx?id=70

That maxpedition sure looks nice..


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