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24601
11-12-2012, 23:34
I'm curious how many of you CCW with a light attached to your glock? carrying around a stand-alone flashlight in your pocket doesn't count....i'm talking x300, tlr-1, etc....

i carry my 32c with x300 as my ccw...

PrecisionRifleman
11-12-2012, 23:36
I'm curious how many of you CCW with a light attached to your glock? carrying around a stand-alone flashlight in your pocket doesn't count....i'm talking x300, tlr-1, etc....

i carry my 32c with x300 as my ccw...

Leave the light at home, and get yourself some decent night sights installed.

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Gombey
11-12-2012, 23:41
Leave the light at home, and get yourself some decent night sights installed.

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Night sights don't help you identify the target. I can't seem to understand statements like this. But I agree, a set of night sights are a good investment.

As to the op, for CCW I like to carry a flashlight. I don't like the extra hassle of trying to cover up the bulk added by the light.

PrecisionRifleman
11-13-2012, 00:08
Night sights don't help you identify the target. I can't seem to understand statements like this. But I agree, a set of night sights are a good investment.

As to the op, for CCW I like to carry a flashlight. I don't like the extra hassle of trying to cover up the bulk added by the light.

If you need a tactical light to identify your target and determine a person to be a threat your in deep crap when it comes time to explain that to the jury. It just doesn't make sense. Seriously leave the dang thing at home....bunch of internet commandos...

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24601
11-13-2012, 00:17
If you need a tactical light to identify your target and determine a person to be a threat your in deep crap when it comes time to explain that to the jury. It just doesn't make sense. Seriously leave the dang thing at home....bunch of internet commandos...

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Internet commando? Not quite. I am an ex leo though so I've been down roads that most just speculate about. And we have a saying....I'd rather be judged by twelve than carried by six...

And to everyone else, yes I have a good set of night sights...

ffs....

TxGlock9
11-13-2012, 01:39
I don't see how a tac-light wouldn't help. In a defensive situation it would only help.

Police305
11-13-2012, 03:51
Having a Tac-light attached to your CCW is a really good idea. The Tac-light can serve other purposes as well by simply detaching it and using it as a stand alone flashlight!

Gombey
11-13-2012, 04:57
If you need a tactical light to identify your target and determine a person to be a threat your in deep crap when it comes time to explain that to the jury. It just doesn't make sense. Seriously leave the dang thing at home....bunch of internet commandos...

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LOL!!! Ok sparky!


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fuzzy03cls
11-13-2012, 08:13
Tried it for 6 months. A normal armed citizen that conceals everyday. No LEO, no combat zones, no going looking for trouble.....I could not find a use in my SD needs to carry around a weapon mounted light. I still carried a handheld, & with some training in how to effectively use a handheld if I ever need too in that fashion is far better.

24601
11-13-2012, 09:01
i'm not knocking anyone on whether they choose to carry an attached light or not....about 15-20% of the time, i detach it for carry for various reasons....there's no doubt that it adds more weight, makes for a bulkier CCW, and is a little harder to conceal due to the added length and/or your choice of clothing due to geographic area/time of year....

but for me personally, those factors above don't bother me and i don't let my geographic area/weather conditions (ie hot as hell) dictate what i carry for my CCW (i live in texas too)

i like having the attached light for a few reasons:
the added weight reduces muzzle flip allowing for faster, accurate follow up shots

it frees up one hand

and worst case scenario with someone on top of you and you being able to only pull off a belly shot, the light gives enough distance between the two of you that the chances of knocking the slide out of battery is, for the most part, nil...

PrecisionRifleman
11-13-2012, 12:17
Tried it for 6 months. A normal armed citizen that conceals everyday. No LEO, no combat zones, no going looking for trouble.....I could not find a use in my SD needs to carry around a weapon mounted light. I still carried a handheld, & with some training in how to effectively use a handheld if I ever need too in that fashion is far better.

Ding Ding Ding. We have a winner here folks.

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TxGlock9
11-13-2012, 14:17
Different strokes for different folks.

Travelin' Jack
11-13-2012, 14:46
I tried a TLR-1 on my carry gun... way too big.

I do keep a Surefire Minimus head lamp on my person, right next to my Leatherman. I use them both frequently for my job, if I did something else for a living I wouldn't carry either.

cowboy1964
11-13-2012, 15:34
Too much hassle to CCW a weapon light. It limits your holster choices. Plus you have no general-purpose light (I do not recommend pulling your weapon simply to detach a light so you can use it).

Figure out a way to carry a regular light. Mine is attached to the underside of my Safariland 123 mag pouch. Simple and effective.

Tornado_Racing
11-13-2012, 15:49
i'm not knocking anyone on whether they choose to carry an attached light or not....about 15-20% of the time, i detach it for carry for various reasons....there's no doubt that it adds more weight, makes for a bulkier CCW, and is a little harder to conceal due to the added length and/or your choice of clothing due to geographic area/time of year....

but for me personally, those factors above don't bother me and i don't let my geographic area/weather conditions (ie hot as hell) dictate what i carry for my CCW (i live in texas too)

i like having the attached light for a few reasons:
the added weight reduces muzzle flip allowing for faster, accurate follow up shots

it frees up one hand

and worst case scenario with someone on top of you and you being able to only pull off a belly shot, the light gives enough distance between the two of you that the chances of knocking the slide out of battery is, for the most part, nil...

+1

My daily carry rig (minus spare mags)
G19
Viridian X5L Gen2
http://imageshack.us/a/img832/2097/dscf4528s.jpg
http://imageshack.us/a/img805/7735/dscf4688w.jpg

TxGlock9
11-13-2012, 17:06
+1

My daily carry rig (minus spare mags)
G19
Viridian X5L Gen2
http://imageshack.us/a/img832/2097/dscf4528s.jpg
http://imageshack.us/a/img805/7735/dscf4688w.jpg

very nice..

TK-421
11-13-2012, 17:14
If I could find an IWB holster that I liked that included space for a light, then I'd put a light on it. So long as it didn't make it too much harder to conceal. But I'd also make sure to carry a regular flashlight, just in case I needed only a light for something.

24601
11-13-2012, 22:44
+1

My daily carry rig (minus spare mags)
G19
Viridian X5L Gen2
https://imageshack.us/a/img832/2097/dscf4528s.jpg
https://imageshack.us/a/img805/7735/dscf4688w.jpg

nice setup! i see your viridian doesn't stick out as much as the x300....how do you like it? and where did you get your kydex?

http://justwaitingtodie.com/craigs/01.JPGhttp://justwaitingtodie.com/craigs/02.JPGhttp://justwaitingtodie.com/craigs/03.JPG

closetoreality
11-14-2012, 00:27
In a real situation a tactical light can be deadly if not used correctly.


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TK-421
11-14-2012, 00:36
In a real situation a tactical light can be deadly if not used correctly.


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In a real situation, a gun can be deadly if not used correctly.

In a real situation, a knife can be deadly if not used correctly.

In a real situation, a car can be deadly if not used correctly.

In a real situation, a bow can be deadly if not used correctly.

336bl
11-14-2012, 00:39
lights and night sights are a gimmick--you'll never see the front sight if something bad happens--lights on an auto just adds bulk---stay alert--stay away from dark places... :)

closetoreality
11-14-2012, 00:44
In a real situation, a gun can be deadly if not used correctly.

In a real situation, a knife can be deadly if not used correctly.

In a real situation, a car can be deadly if not used correctly.

In a real situation, a bow can be deadly if not used correctly.

I'm sorry did I offend you? Would you like me to get into how long it takes your eyes to adjust their night vision and how that is affected by a sure fire, or how easily your able to compromise yourself if not used properly. Tac lights are meant to be used for mere seconds and split seconds at a time.


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TK-421
11-14-2012, 00:50
I'm sorry did I offend you? Would you like me to get into how long it takes your eyes to adjust their night vision and how that is affected by a sure fire, or how easily your able to compromise yourself if not used properly. Tac lights are meant to be used for mere seconds and split seconds at a time.


0311

No, didn't offend me, just trying to point out that no **** it's dangerous if you don't know what you're doing, but so is a lot of other stuff. So just make sure you know what you're doing with it, and it won't be an issue. If he wants to put one on his CCW, then I think it's safe to say he trusts himself with one, and knows what he's doing.

And if tac lights are meant to be used for mere seconds, and split seconds at a time, why do we watch cop shows that show cops clearing houses with their tac lights turned on instantly? There is no one way to use a tac light. You use it however it works best for you. What works best for you doesn't mean that's the only way to do it. Something else might work better for me, and a third thing might work even better for a third person.

Cochese
11-14-2012, 00:52
If I carry my duty gun on my days off its a G17/X300 in a ColoradoHolster™

www.coloradoholster.com

closetoreality
11-14-2012, 00:57
Do you have any idea how quickly a tac light eats through a battery?

I was giving friendly advice, take it for what it's worth. But you can go ahead and keep basing your facts off of the tv show 'cops' and ill base mine off of my time in the sandbox.


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Cochese
11-14-2012, 01:07
Do you have any idea how quickly a tac light eats through a battery?

I was giving friendly advice, take it for what it's worth. But you can go ahead and keep basing your facts off of the tv show 'cops' and ill base mine off of my time in the sandbox.


0311

Not sure if you are talking to me? And not sure if serious. :rofl:

I carry a pistol for 10 hours a day at work. With a light on it. I take it out of the holster usually a minimum of once per shift. I work at night.

I sure as hell do have an idea how they eat batteries. My facts aren't from COPS, they are from being in uniform for the last eight years working graveyards in major metro areas in two states.

I happen to prefer to fight/train the same. I have a lot of time on guns with lights. 1911, Glock 34, Glock 17, USP, Sig P226....

It makes sense to carry it the same way all the time. I'm not in the sandbox/suck/blah blah but it ain't exactly a walk in the park back home, good sir.

Thanks for your service.

closetoreality
11-14-2012, 01:13
Wasn't directed towards you. But thanks for the feedback.


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Clutch Cargo
11-14-2012, 01:17
I don't even carry a wallet (my stuff is in a business card holder). I also carry keys, a knife and my weapon. If I'm headed for trouble, I carry an extra magazine or two.

Cochese
11-14-2012, 01:20
Wasn't directed towards you. But thanks for the feedback.


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Okay wasn't sure, but it still applies. I'm a department firearms instructor and armorer in addition to patrol, FWIW.

I have zero military experience and respect what you do. I'd like to enlist as a reserve in the Army if I could guarantee a CID appointment.

I'm getting too old now!

Cochese
11-14-2012, 01:22
I don't even carry a wallet (my stuff is in a business card holder). I also carry keys, a knife and my weapon. If I'm headed for trouble, I carry an extra magazine or two.

I have to carry two wallets. One with badge/ID and one is a money clip credit card thingy. One car key only (Audi switchblade) and a Microtech switchblade. Usually just a G26 here and maybe a 17 mag if I'm lucky.

Clutch Cargo
11-14-2012, 02:30
I have to carry two wallets. One with badge/ID and one is a money clip credit card thingy. One car key only (Audi switchblade) and a Microtech switchblade. Usually just a G26 here and maybe a 17 mag if I'm lucky.
I forgot to say money clip. I've no room for cash in a card holder.
Microtech:cool:
Sadly, Texas will not even let me carry the Camillus auto knife I was issued while in the military. San Antonio police already kept an expensive Spyderco folder. I carry a quality 4" fixed blade and am GTG in the state.

fuzzy03cls
11-14-2012, 08:20
And if tac lights are meant to be used for mere seconds, and split seconds at a time, why do we watch cop shows that show cops clearing houses with their tac lights turned on instantly? There is no one way to use a tac light. You use it however it works best for you. What works best for you doesn't mean that's the only way to do it. Something else might work better for me, and a third thing might work even better for a third person.
I might suggest you take some night/low light shooting classes. You will understand how to use a light effectively

Cochese
11-14-2012, 10:32
Have to agree there. TV is for entertainment. Lights are used sparingly, especially clearing buildings. Ambient lighting is key if present. Otherwise, light is on/off a lot to prevent tracking of officers by a concealed suspect.

kodiakpb
11-14-2012, 11:50
Yes I carry with a TAC light. I've been using weapon mounted lights for the better part of 20 years. There is no downside to me using a TAC light.

SCSU74
11-14-2012, 12:57
Internet commando? Not quite. I am an ex leo though so I've been down roads that most just speculate about. And we have a saying....I'd rather be judged by twelve than carried by six...

And to everyone else, yes I have a good set of night sights...

ffs....

Wow that guy is an idiot. To answer your question, when off duty I either carry my duty 17 or backup 19 with an x300 in a ctac holster. I also carry a light in my pocket for tasks that don't need a pistol AND illumination :)


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SCSU74
11-14-2012, 13:00
If I could find an IWB holster that I liked that included space for a light, then I'd put a light on it. So long as it didn't make it too much harder to conceal. But I'd also make sure to carry a regular flashlight, just in case I needed only a light for something.

Comp-tac ctac. Was skeptical, but I like it a lot so far. Carried in a crossbreed prior. Ordered mine for Glock 17 also works with my 19


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Tornado_Racing
11-14-2012, 17:17
nice setup! i see your viridian doesn't stick out as much as the x300....how do you like it? and where did you get your kydex?

http://justwaitingtodie.com/craigs/01.JPGhttp://justwaitingtodie.com/craigs/02.JPGhttp://justwaitingtodie.com/craigs/03.JPG
Very comfortable to carry and the X5L seems to fit the G19 very well.

I get all of my holster stuff from knifekits.com

TxGlock9
11-14-2012, 19:52
I'm sorry did I offend you? Would you like me to get into how long it takes your eyes to adjust their night vision and how that is affected by a sure fire, or how easily your able to compromise yourself if not used properly. Tac lights are meant to be used for mere seconds and split seconds at a time.


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For informational purposes, I would like to learn more about how to use a tac light properly in self defense situations. All I do know for now is that it can get me in trouble if the hiding suspect can identify me and me not him...

Gombey
11-14-2012, 20:32
I never thought about using my light off duty. Seemed too cumbersome, but the holsters posted make it seem doable.

But I usually carry my 27 off duty with a light in my pocket...I may try the 'ole 22 with light one day.

Warp
11-14-2012, 20:52
I did, for a short time. Not anymore. Pocket flashlight gets that duty.

MeanAction
11-16-2012, 05:32
I'll be honest, My M95 on my AK helps me see the front sight post in low light. That's just me though. Seriously though, I carry a light at night in me pocket or jacket pocket or in this neat little easy access pouch in my cargos.

SouthpawG26
11-16-2012, 06:31
I find concealed carry with a light in conventional IWB/OWB/AIWB no more troublesome than without. Most of the time, it's the grip that detemines how much the gun prints, not the length of slide and barrel, nor the additonal length added by the bigger WMLs.