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RG7X
11-14-2012, 05:58
I recently received my first assignment in Florida and had to store my 3 Glocks with my military sponsor while I searched for housing. After a about a month, I picked up the guns and believe it or not, all the slides on all 3 Glocks have rust. I just noticed this last night and about flipped. They were all wiped down, stored in their cases and I even through a few large moisture absorbing packets in the box. I usually clean them after every shoot, my sponsor said they were stored inside and I can tell they were never shot. The 19 and 26 have rust on the rear of the slide and little specs of rust all over the slide. The other 19 was just the rear portion.

I'm kind of strapped for cash and was wondering if anyone had any suggestions for refinish? Would anyone recommend calling Glock or is there a really solid company / finish? I've looked at Lone Wolf and RockYourGlock so far... :dunno:

dhoomonyou
11-14-2012, 07:43
Call GLOCK
Any rust on the barrel?

Z71
11-14-2012, 08:00
Hmmm...I just removed some sort of aftermarket steel sight from my old G17 pistol's slide.

The sight(rear sight) was rusty/rusted in the dovetail and underneath the sight on top the slide. However the slide itself wasn't rusted....and it cleaned right up and didn't stain the slide at all.

I will say that I'm familiar with rusty handguns...but at least with my older made Glocks..rust ain't an issue!

Makes me wonder if Glock has changed the slide/barrel finish/treatment?

SJ 40
11-14-2012, 08:25
Hmmm...I just removed some sort of aftermarket steel sight from my old G17 pistol's slide.

The sight(rear sight) was rusty/rusted in the dovetail and underneath the sight on top the slide. However the slide itself wasn't rusted....and it cleaned right up and didn't stain the slide at all.

I will say that I'm familiar with rusty handguns...but at least with my older made Glocks..rust ain't an issue!

Makes me wonder if Glock has changed the slide/barrel finish/treatment?They have. SJ 40

kodiakpb
11-14-2012, 08:29
What did you use to wipe the weapons down with?

SARDG
11-14-2012, 08:44
Where and how did your sponsor store your guns? I've lived fulltime in FL for 5 years, live 30' from a saltwater canal, don't take the precautions that you did, have Gen2s through Gen4s, and have no such problem. Florida Fish and Wildlife uses Glocks and I'm sure have no such problem - and many LEOs rarely shoot their guns if not for quals and probably don't clean them that often.

Z71
11-14-2012, 09:14
I googeled 'rusty Glocks'....and apparently even old Glocks can turn into a ball of rust!!

My guess on why the stored pistols rusted....somebody checked them out and didn't wipe them down.

Some folks can touch a gun..and it's fine...others have corrosive sweat/fingerprints.

Also gun-cases/pistol-cases really can draw moisture..or at least retain enough moisture to cause grief.

Who knows??...Even stainless steel rusts!

mongo356
11-14-2012, 12:07
You say you put moisture packets in with the guns?

Sometimes the ingredients to those can include sodium & cobalt chloride, personally I'll take my chances with moisture.

Add some handling and movement possibly some dust from the packet, not to mention that the packet itself will draw moisture in.

If my guns are stored for a long period of time, I slather them in oil or grease and clean before the next use.

GThirtyTwo
11-14-2012, 13:09
I eezox mine and rarely clean it unless it's shot these days. It gets salt water, sweat, moisture from showers, rain, all kinds of stuff on it and not a drop of rust. Hell it didn't rust before it had the Eezox.

4Rules
11-14-2012, 13:28
Send them back to Glock (http://us.glock.com/customer-service/customer-support). Glock will re-finish them.

GLOCK, Inc.
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cajun_chooter
11-14-2012, 14:09
can 't be... someone on here said GLOCKS DON'T RUST !

Bruce M
11-14-2012, 17:49
If I had to guess I would also guess that perhaps one of the chemicals in the absorbent packet reacted with the Glock. Not seeing the rust it is of course about impossible to say for sure, but I have had some good luck in removing surface rust from a couple of blued and stainless guns by rubbing the area with an oil soaked rag or sometimes with some oil and very fine steel wool (make sure you get all the little tiny flecks of the steel wool off the gun as that stuff rusts when you sneeze.)

My guess is that with a little work you may be able to get rid of the rust and then keep it away. No offense to the folks that do it for a living but in my limited experience refinishing a gun sometimes does not add the cost of the refinishing to the value of the gun. Although it may well help improve our pride in the gun.

Frank V
11-14-2012, 19:00
If I had to store a gun for a long period & it'd be unattended, I'd clean it well oil it well & coat it with a pretty liberal coating of Rig gun grease!

ccr
11-14-2012, 19:32
RG7X
i answered your email this morning. Please feel free to ask any questions you may have

JCM1976
11-14-2012, 20:21
I use eezox on everything I own including my Les Baer, the stuff is incredible.

Bodyarmorguy
11-14-2012, 21:00
Yep, they rust.

http://www.glocktalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1391053

The thick looking matter on the frame rails is tetra grease that despite being in lace, the metal still corroded. This was on a coworker's pistol. This and another one were both replaced by Glock under warranty.

http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z251/bodyarmorguy/RustyCartridge.png
http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z251/bodyarmorguy/RustyGlock1.png
http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z251/bodyarmorguy/RustyGlock3.png
http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z251/bodyarmorguy/RustyGlock6.png
http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z251/bodyarmorguy/RustyGlock7.png

RG7X
11-14-2012, 22:15
I checked in with a guy at work who works with corrosion on rockets and has dealt with guns for 40+ years. He came over and checked them out and speculated that there must have still been a little bit of sweat and oil on the slide lacerations (where the majority of rust was located). That mixed with sitting in a case in a box for a month must have done it. We cleaned it up quite a bit with solvent and a brass brush wire. Most of everything looked much better but I'm sure I'll be getting this coated with something more resistant to corrosion. It may have also had something to do with the salt packets? I'm not sure but the slide on one my G19s had rust spots all over the slide. It was a rude awakening for sure.

RG7X
11-14-2012, 22:24
I eezox mine and rarely clean it unless it's shot these days. It gets salt water, sweat, moisture from showers, rain, all kinds of stuff on it and not a drop of rust. Hell it didn't rust before it had the Eezox.

I've seen that same scenario with several people which is why I was extremely shocked. Only other possibility I could speculate was the new finish some folks have been mentioning. All 3 of my Glocks are 2012 Gen 3s.

SJ 40
11-14-2012, 22:27
If I had to store a gun for a long period & it'd be unattended, I'd clean it well oil it well & coat it with a pretty liberal coating of Rig gun grease!This,for long term rust free storage. SJ 40

Made in Austria
11-14-2012, 23:31
What did you use to wipe the weapons down with?


I would like to know that too! That all three guns have rust on them is highly unlikely and suggests that they could have been unknowingly wiped down with something corrosive or stored the wrong way.

RG7X
11-15-2012, 17:29
I would like to know that too! That all three guns have rust on them is highly unlikely and suggests that they could have been unknowingly wiped down with something corrosive or stored the wrong way.

Silicone rag

kda
11-15-2012, 18:37
I agree with the two above that mentioned Eezox. Fantastic stuff. It simply works.

Police305
11-15-2013, 00:25
Glocks DO rust. I took out my EDC G26 (which I carry in a fanny pack) and it had very tiny rust-colored dots on the front left hand side of the slide, just above the "26" engraving! I'm gonna rub it down with some steel whool and gun oil to remove the small dots.

TxGlock9
11-15-2013, 02:10
Silicone rag

That's only going to do so much.

trekgod3
11-15-2013, 04:36
Are you sure they weren't stored in a garage or other non-air conditioned space? I also live in Florida, less than a quarter mile from a river and a half mile from the ocean. All my glocks are stored indoors and are just fine. I haven't even cleaned them after my last range trip 6 months ago.

RG7X
11-15-2013, 05:22
Hey guys, this was last year and problem was solved! They are OK now as I had all of them refinished. The 26 was done by CCR (nickel boron) and I ended up getting the other ones done by WE Birdsong (Black-T). See link below for more details. I never did find out exactly what happened but I think they were stored in the garage (outside my control at that point). I've come to believe the root cause was the sweat and oil from hands (which was not properly wiped down) reacted terribly with poor storage (from sponsor) in humid FL. http://www.glocktalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1487401

BamaBud
11-15-2013, 07:59
Read this:
http://www.thegunzone.com/rust.html

dakrat
11-15-2013, 08:05
after all these lube threads in here, someone is still using silicone rag??!. keep it simple. aerosol CLP. spray and wipe. congrats on your orders to FL.

AGERanger
11-17-2013, 11:51
Just a quick response to the comment above regarding the Tetra grease. I too, have had rusting problems when storing firearms with Tetra grease anywhere on them, even while stored in an air conditioned, humidity controlled room, with desiccant in the safe. I have since stopped using any Tetra products for this reason...

Bruce M
11-17-2013, 15:06
I have Tetra grease on the rails of a few guns including a Sig or two, a USP that is carried during the week, and some Glocks including the one I carry weekends and have no rust on any.

tonyparson
11-17-2013, 17:14
I have Tetra grease on the rails of a few guns including a Sig or two, a USP that is carried during the week, and some Glocks including the one I carry weekends and have no rust on any.

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WayneJessie
11-18-2013, 09:23
can 't be... someone on here said GLOCKS DON'T RUST !

If it's made out of steel it'll rust. Surface treatments and metal treatments lead some to think rust is a thing of the past.

Glocks n' Crocs
11-18-2013, 21:33
Just a quick response to the comment above regarding the Tetra grease. I too, have had rusting problems when storing firearms with Tetra grease anywhere on them, even while stored in an air conditioned, humidity controlled room, with desiccant in the safe. I have since stopped using any Tetra products for this reason...

Tetra grease is a lithium grease (if Im correct) and will eventually separate back into oil and the lithium additive. This would allow rust to form. How quickly did this gun rust from the time you applied the Tetra grease?

If you are looking into a replacement for Tetra I recommend Super Lube. Best stuff out there for guns.

http://d13z1xw8270sfc.cloudfront.net/origin/170652/super_lube_can.jpg

R3508
11-18-2013, 22:01
Mine are mostly dry and dirty. No rust...

Buckshot Barry
11-18-2013, 22:28
Glocks DO rust. I took out my EDC G26 (which I carry in a fanny pack) and it had very tiny rust-colored dots on the front left hand side of the slide, just above the "26" engraving! I'm gonna rub it down with some steel whool and gun oil to remove the small dots.

Same thing here. 2012 G23 Austria. Little specs of rust on the slide while in my fanny pack. Cleaned up pretty good when my fingernail, then I went with a coat of Mobil 1 20W50. After 2 applications and 2 months later the slide looks almost perfect.

I use to get bent all out of shape about firearms finish, then I started shooting SASS about 11 years ago. Those new cowboy guns have gotten all scratched up over time. They still work just fine. They are tools and I no longer get upset about the finish on my "working" guns.

RG7X
11-19-2013, 05:09
Same thing here. 2012 G23 Austria. Little specs of rust on the slide while in my fanny pack. Cleaned up pretty good when my fingernail, then I went with a coat of Mobil 1 20W50. After 2 applications and 2 months later the slide looks almost perfect.

I use to get bent all out of shape about firearms finish, then I started shooting SASS about 11 years ago. Those new cowboy guns have gotten all scratched up over time. They still work just fine. They are tools and I no longer get upset about the finish on my "working" guns.

Agreed. Plus it adds more character and feels more personal to me.

Fatdaddy
11-19-2013, 06:11
Are you sure they weren't stored in a garage or other non-air conditioned space? I also live in Florida, less than a quarter mile from a river and a half mile from the ocean. All my glocks are stored indoors and are just fine. I haven't even cleaned them after my last range trip 6 months ago.

Temperature change with moisture present will make a gun sweat. Any chance you've been shooting that cheap Tula ammo?

Bill Lumberg
11-19-2013, 07:16
Any gun commonly available gun oil will do. Sweaty guns/hands when handling the weapons prior to storage is a common culprit. Oil doesn't negate the salt from your hands. Avoid militec if corrosion is at all a concern. Good lube, just doesn't protect against corrosion.

bcj128
11-19-2013, 11:24
I use FrogLube almost exclusively. Firstly, it just works 100%, and gets into the pores of the metal. Second, I can treat/clean all my guns and my wife doesn't turn up her nose at me when I come back from the garage.

MajorD
11-19-2013, 11:28
Honestly carry and hard use guns will get dings scratches and even rust at times- when the rust thing happens I remove it with steel wool and keep on truckin I have never refinished a gun as it only does a couple things- sooner or later if you use the gun it will wear again and you will be back at square one. It costs$ better left for ammo and in older guns decreases value and in modern guns does not add any. Granted I live in a place with no salt air like Florida so that is a factor, but even my old blue steel ankle carry j frame gets covered in snow ice and rain frequently and any small rust spots just rub off.

SCmasterblaster
11-19-2013, 13:52
No such rust troubles here in VT. I simply coat my handguns with BreakFree CLP.

greenlion
11-19-2013, 21:56
If I had to store a gun for a long period & it'd be unattended, I'd clean it well oil it well & coat it with a pretty liberal coating of Rig gun grease!

That is what I use to use too, until I began a corrosion test of several of the most common lubricant/protectants. RIG Gun Grease, Rem oil, and Tetra gun grease all did miserably, rusting in the first 3 days. Safariland CLP and Eezox are still relatively rust free after 4 months.

I think the Rig grease is thick and does not get down into tiny crevices in metal that is not finished very smoothly. I'd say if it was heated and then applied, it would do better.

BigCheese03012
11-19-2013, 22:09
Super lube for guns ? Na, stick with cosmoline! That stuff works! IMO mosins that are swamped in cosmoline have much better bores than the nicer looking ones without.

LT642
11-20-2013, 06:40
I have noted rust on our issued Glock pistols, especially on the rear sight and barrel hood.
I use EEZOX, this seems to keep the rust under control

Funny thing is, my older gen 3 and gen 2 pistols have never showed signs of rust. I think we all agree that newer Glock pistols are more prone to rust. Just means more frequent cleaning and lubrication.

Glocks n' Crocs
11-20-2013, 17:47
Anyone ever use products like this? http://www.wd40specialist.com/products/corrosion-inhibitor/

http://www.wd40specialist.com/images/product-corrosion.png

RG7X
02-01-2014, 06:57
FWIW, I found a pretty cool article on the topic if anyone is interested.

http://www.theprepared.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=90

1eyedjack
02-01-2014, 08:29
I agree with the two above that mentioned Eezox. Fantastic stuff. It simply works.
Same here. I had always used Break Free CLP until a gunsmith friend of mine gave me some Eezox to try a few years ago. Great stuff.

skip4309
02-01-2014, 08:43
Owned all types of guns for over 50 years...the only ones that have ever rusted were the ones exposed to the elements like moisture/high humidity...and that was in the truck of a car that leaked...something extreme happened that caused yours to rust...don't blame Glock...

RG7X
02-01-2014, 09:53
Owned all types of guns for over 50 years...the only ones that have ever rusted were the ones exposed to the elements like moisture/high humidity...and that was in the truck of a car that leaked...something extreme happened that caused yours to rust...don't blame Glock...

Before you accuse anyone of something you should have background information or evidence (read the thread). No one here blamed Glock.

RG7X
02-01-2014, 09:59
FWIW check out my post, #26. No hard feelings.

ShallNotBeInfringed
02-01-2014, 10:15
It is cost. Do you guys want a hundred bucks added to each gun, so they can't rust? Two hundred? It can be done, but what would we as consumers get charged for it?

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RG7X
02-01-2014, 10:24
It is cost. Do you guys want a hundred bucks added to each gun, so they can't rust? Two hundred? It can be done, but what would we as consumers get charged for it?

sent from my rotary wall phone

Really great questions posed on the topic. I personally would pay for it! However, I know from a top level perspective it's probably not worth the investment if consumers don't have a high level demand to justify the extra costs involved. There are products out that do sell on the corrosion resistant finishes on various firearm components. Until then, I guess I'll stick with paying extra on price and wait for Black-T.

SCmasterblaster
02-01-2014, 11:16
It made me want to check my 3rd Gen G17 for rust here in VT. Whew - no rust.

tango44
02-01-2014, 16:30
My G26 stays in my safe for months last year here in sunny FL during a job related travel and never rusts!
FrogLube is all I use!

AgentM79
02-02-2014, 09:28
Padded cases are notorious for trapping moisture. Perhaps clean, lubricated guns were put in a case that, unbeknownst to the owner, had taken on some moisture prior to storage. Or, the well-meaning friend storing the guns put them in an out-of-the-way place where moisture got to them (near an AC duct, or somewhere that wasn't protected by climate control).

Regardless, the OP has my sympathy. I had two nice guns damaged @16 years ago when my roof leaked, and a hidden compartment inside a closet got wet. The guns were in a padded case, and properly cleaned/lubricated. Live and learn - I went out and got a gun safe with a "Goldenrod". I also check my guns frequently to make sure they are OK. One thing I absolutely DID learn - the one gun that WASN'T damaged was stored in an MTM Long-Term handgun storage case. No foam, and it comes with a dessicant pack. I now store ALL of my handguns in MTM's outstanding product.

clarkz71
02-02-2014, 09:43
Where and how did your sponsor store your guns? I've lived fulltime in FL for 5 years, live 30' from a saltwater canal, don't take the precautions that you did, have Gen2s through Gen4s, and have no such problem. Florida Fish and Wildlife uses Glocks and I'm sure have no such problem - and many LEOs rarely shoot their guns if not for quals and probably don't clean them that often.

Same here, in fact I live in a Condo across the street from
the Atlantic Ocean, Ft Lauderdale

AND I carry IWB. When I'm home, it's in my MTAC holster
sitting on the coffee table or night stand.

I do have the grey Teflon finish, that may be the difference.

No special lubes. Clean and wipe down once a month with CLP.

Clem Eastwood
02-02-2014, 22:06
i have had early glocks I have carried with tennifer that I never had an issue with. a month after I started carrying one with the new finish it had a few rust specs on it. since CCR refinished it I haven't had a problem.

Photoman642
02-02-2014, 22:44
I had a 2011 Glock 26 and the slide rusted after one week in my front pocket. If you want to end any possibility of rust, send it to Robar and have it NP3+ refinished.

Bill Lumberg
02-03-2014, 09:56
Mine get sweated on days at a time sometimes, (gen 4). Zero corrosion problems. I use CLP most of the time. I did have a 1911 get some surface rust, despite being stainless, when I used only militec-1. Even during my fascination with militec, didn't have any glock rust. Did have M4 rust.

4-Fun
02-03-2014, 11:11
It is cost. Do you guys want a hundred bucks added to each gun, so they can't rust? Two hundred? It can be done, but what would we as consumers get charged for it?

sent from my rotary wall phone

HELLO--that hundred dollars is already added to the cost of each gun.
So now one must add another $100 to the first $100 hoping the metal treatment will do that which was paid for with the first $100 after after paying another $100?

Glock 23 Nutter
02-03-2014, 11:31
I'd check for rust on all my Glocks...

...if I didn't have to take all the marine grease off'em ta do it.
(maybe at the next cleanin')

:supergrin:




Nutter

flysubcompact
02-03-2014, 14:11
i have had early glocks I have carried with tennifer that I never had an issue with....


Never seen a spec of rust on my old 2.5 G27. I live in the hot, humid south. I guess a 2.5 gen is tenifer finish?

deputy tom
02-03-2014, 19:11
Padded cases are notorious for trapping moisture....

This just prompted me to go check on a blued rifle I'd lubed with Ballistol and stuck in a padded nylon soft case two and a half years ago. It was down in my basement all that time and as of ten minutes ago hadn't rusted. I did wipe it down again with Ballistol and put it in my safe. Thanks for the reminder. And I haven't seen rust on any of my Glocks yet. tom. :cool: