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Deriffe
11-14-2012, 15:05
Traded my STI Guardian for a new Springfield Armory Micro Compact 1911 .45acp. Had so much trouble with the STI, I just couldn't trust it for carry. The Springfield runs like a champ and is even easier to conceal than the STI was. It's my third Springfield and all are fantastic. The paddle holster that came with the standard Springfield kit is perfect for concealed carry (for me at least).

Jim Watson
11-14-2012, 15:14
What does the new owner plan to do about your problems?

Ocean_glocker
11-14-2012, 15:22
What does the new owner plan to do about your problems?

They're his problems now... :tongueout:


PICS!

Jim Watson
11-14-2012, 15:25
Internet Ethics, huh?

faawrenchbndr
11-14-2012, 15:39
Wow,........Micro Compacts are generally a PITA to keep running.
Hope Lady Karma doesn't lash out and bite ya in the arse when you least expect it!

If it happens,.......you've only yourself to blame! :wavey:

glock2740
11-14-2012, 16:46
Were the problems disclosed before the trade?

Spiffums
11-14-2012, 16:59
I thought it was common knowledge that micro 1911s don't run. Anything less under 5 inches is problematic.

Three-Five-Seven
11-14-2012, 17:24
Why do guys insist on trying to make these bastardized guns work.

Get a Glock, for heavens sake.

Big Bird
11-14-2012, 20:44
I had a STI Ranger II and it went back to STI twice for the same problem that was never resolved. It would FTF the 6th round of every magazine. STI loads their test mags to 5 rounds and it would come back saying it functions fine--they shot 10 magazines through it. None were loaded past 5 rounds. The dealer that sold it to me took it back and allowed me to buy something else with a full credit on the STI.

Now my Sig 1911 and SA 1911 and even my Kimber SIS Pro have been flawless except for the small batch of bad primers I had with some of my reloads. Not the guns fault.

bac1023
11-14-2012, 21:36
Get a Glock, for heavens sake.

Yeah, they work great these days...:whistling:

countrygun
11-14-2012, 21:51
I thought it was common knowledge that micro 1911s don't run. Anything less under 5 inches is problematic.

I used to think that, but the record of the Commander caused me to rethink it.

Then i got a Kimber compact (because I couldn't find a Star PD for love or money) even with lots of ammo through it without a bobble I was still sure a shorter one wouldn't work.

Then my wife brought home a Kimber URII and I chewed her out because I knew it couldn't work. she went right out the door stepped up to our firing range and fired mag after mag.

I threw my crystal ball away.:embarassed:

(I still think hers is the exception)

Smokin45
11-14-2012, 22:28
Traded my STI Guardian for a new Springfield Armory Micro Compact 1911 .45acp. Had so much trouble with the STI, I just couldn't trust it for carry. The Springfield runs like a champ and is even easier to conceal than the STI was. It's my third Springfield and all are fantastic. The paddle holster that came with the standard Springfield kit is perfect for concealed carry (for me at least).

Did you tell the new owner it was a turd? Im guessing not...

Lady Karma might be paying you a visit when you least expect her...

bac1023
11-14-2012, 22:35
I don't care much for small 1911s, but they have come a long way over the last 10 years or so.

RGbiker
11-14-2012, 22:46
Why do guys insist on trying to make these bastardized guns work.

Get a Glock, for heavens sake.

Or a SA XDs in .45acp. About same size as G26.

faawrenchbndr
11-15-2012, 05:39
Get a Glock, for heavens sake.

Those Gen 4 models are great, with all that brass bouncing off your face & all! :whistling:

Deriffe
11-15-2012, 07:48
What does the new owner plan to do about your problems?

I traded it BACK to the same gun store I purchased it from. I bought THEIR problem, they now have it back. This is the same gun store I took the "turd" back too for warranty repairs to try to fix it so yes, they were fully aware of the situation and STILL gave me a good trade in for it. Apparently, the fact that I have purchased multiple firearms and accessories from this shop ensured they wanted to go the extra mile to keep me happy, and I am VERY happy with my micro compact. It works and after 4 boxes of ammo, not one single piece of brass to my face.

Nice that the haters automatically assumed I was a P.O.S. Karma is a two way street dipstick.

glock2740
11-15-2012, 08:15
I traded it BACK to the same gun store I purchased it from. I bought THEIR problem, they now have it back. This is the same gun store I took the "turd" back too for warranty repairs to try to fix it so yes, they were fully aware of the situation and STILL gave me a good trade in for it. Apparently, the fact that I have purchased multiple firearms and accessories from this shop ensured they wanted to go the extra mile to keep me happy, and I am VERY happy with my micro compact. It works and after 4 boxes of ammo, not one single piece of brass to my face.

Nice that the haters automatically assumed I was a P.O.S. Karma is a two way street dipstick.Your original post makes you sound like a POS. Learn to tell the whole story the first time so you don't sound like a dipstick. :upeyes:

bac1023
11-15-2012, 08:36
It was an easy assumption since you only told half the story. :dunno:

faawrenchbndr
11-15-2012, 09:20
.....

Nice that the haters automatically assumed I was a P.O.S. Karma is a two way street dipstick.

Take a step back & read your first post.......common sense.
Sad that you can not see that. :dunno:

sns3guppy
11-15-2012, 09:28
Your original post makes you sound like a POS. Learn to tell the whole story the first time so you don't sound like a dipstick.

His original post simply says he traded the firearm. He didn't provide details.

You did that when you made assumptions about what the original poster said.

I read his post and saw his intent: he wasn't posting about the trade arrangements. He was posting about the improvement in the new firearm over the old.

Lots of posters quick to assume the worst. Interesting.

Clutch Cargo
11-15-2012, 10:37
I thought it was common knowledge that micro 1911s don't run. Anything less under 5 inches is problematic.

Never had an issue with Commander/Champion length (4-4.25") pistols. Micro size pistols are realitively new, while the 4" models are time-proven.

Clutch Cargo
11-15-2012, 10:39
Why do guys insist on trying to make these bastardized guns work.

Get a Glock, for heavens sake.
The 1911 platform has 100 years of proven reliability. All machines are subject to having a lemon now and then.

Deriffe
11-15-2012, 11:06
The 1911 platform has 100 years of proven reliability. All machines are subject to having a lemon now and then.

Absolutely, in addition to 6 Glocks, I now have 4 1911's and love them. I just have zero patience for problems with one I paid so much for. For the price of that STI, I expected it to be flawless. It wasn't. I replaced it. The micro has thus far been flawless.

ArmoryDoc
11-15-2012, 11:12
His original post simply says he traded the firearm. He didn't provide details.

You did that when you made assumptions about what the original poster said.

I read his post and saw his intent: he wasn't posting about the trade arrangements. He was posting about the improvement in the new firearm over the old.

Lots of posters quick to assume the worst. Interesting.

This place is really bad about making assumptions with a greater-than-thou attitude. :dunno:

Jim Watson
11-15-2012, 11:57
I am glad the OP dumped his problem back on the dealer who knew what the score was.
Hmm. Wonder what the DEALER did with it?

I think the manufacturer should get one chance to rectify a problem under warranty.
If they can't fix it, turn it over to a real gunsmith.
And let the world know about it. I would not run down the maker without giving him that one chance, but that is all he would get.

Or, as is common, "get rid of it." Hopefully to somebody who knows what he is getting and is willing to deal with it.

faawrenchbndr
11-15-2012, 12:09
This place is really bad about making assumptions with a greater-than-thou attitude. :dunno:

If it looks, walks & talks like a duck,........call it a duck. :dunno:

glock2740
11-15-2012, 22:13
If it looks, walks & talks like a duck,........call it a duck. :dunno:
Ditto. The OP made his first post "sound" pretty shady/crappy/POS like. He could have made it better by rectifying it later, but has gone on the defensive since being called out, and rightfully so. Anyone who wants to defend him for his first post, can blow that smoke up somebody elses arse.

prez1967
11-15-2012, 22:22
I have nothing nice to say about the OP or his attitude.... I'll go on my way...

SigFTW
11-16-2012, 09:43
Assumptions are bad however over reacting is also just as bad. Your story lacked detailed and the question was asked for clarity by glock2740. You could have dismissed it all with your second response without all the rant and name calling.

I'm glad you were able to get rid of your problem gun, nothing is more frustrating than an unreliable gun.

R0CKETMAN
11-18-2012, 07:09
Glad you got rid of the pos. Not sure the compact was a viable alternative.

AZson
11-18-2012, 12:19
Friend of mine uses STI's to compete, they are more trouble then I would want to deal with.

ca survivor
11-18-2012, 12:21
my rule #1 don't buy used 1911s, unless I can test fire it.

AZson
11-18-2012, 12:24
What does the new owner plan to do about your problems?

Then all STI's should have them listed.

mc1911
11-26-2012, 09:09
I saw 3inch 1911's struggle so I bought a CW45 from Kahr.

faawrenchbndr
11-26-2012, 09:56
Bought this Compact used, sight unseen.
Had it tweaked a bit,......runs smoother than a Swiss watch!

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c341/faawrenchbndr/5f98220e0d24c54b707e62df1aae2860.jpg

kirgi08
11-26-2012, 11:03
A bit.'08. :faint:

RYT 2BER
11-26-2012, 18:12
Bought this Compact used, sight unseen.
Had it tweaked a bit,......runs smoother than a Swiss watch!

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c341/faawrenchbndr/5f98220e0d24c54b707e62df1aae2860.jpg

Im not a 1911 guy but damn that thing is hot!! :thumbsup:

.45 Combat
11-26-2012, 18:32
Why do guys insist on trying to make these bastardized guns work.

Get a Glock, for heavens sake.

Or an HK. Even a full size 1911 works.

MD357
11-27-2012, 08:45
Why do guys insist on trying to make these bastardized guns work.

Get a Glock, for heavens sake.
http://img384.imageshack.us/img384/2435/glock21kb1sh.jpg

Yeah, get a glock.... because shooting one-handed is cool.

Wyoming
11-27-2012, 09:30
I thought it was common knowledge that micro 1911s don't run. Anything less under 5 inches is problematic.

Almost correct. Nothing shorter than Commander 4" may be problematic.

MStarmer
11-28-2012, 10:02
Bought this Compact used, sight unseen.
Had it tweaked a bit,......runs smoother than a Swiss watch!

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c341/faawrenchbndr/5f98220e0d24c54b707e62df1aae2860.jpg


That's not even fair to post one of Chuck's guns... :faint::faint:

Beretta92guy
12-29-2012, 19:04
Why do guys insist on trying to make these bastardized guns work.

Get a Glock, for heavens sake.

yeah, and get a welders face-shield when you buy that glock for the brass-to-the-face you get slammed with:upeyes:

Beretta92guy
12-29-2012, 19:05
What does the new owner plan to do about your problems?

thats why i NEVER buy used guns, worse than buying a used car, IMO......

faawrenchbndr
12-29-2012, 20:00
my rule #1 don't buy used 1911s, unless I can test fire it.

I bought my Springer Compact sight unseen,.......however I DID have plans for it. :whistling:

sawgrass
12-29-2012, 21:54
thats why i NEVER buy used guns, worse than buying a used car, IMO......

The majority of my guns have come from two or three dealers that I trust. Most of them have been used and I haven't had trouble with any of them. I prefer that someone else take that new gun hit. A couple of my favorite guns are 100 years old.

These Model 1909 Argentine Mausers are soon to be 101!

glock2740
12-29-2012, 22:06
The majority of my guns have come from two or three dealers that I trust. Most of them have been used and I haven't had trouble with any of them. I prefer that someone else take that new gun hit. A couple of my favorite guns are 100 years old.

These Model 1909 Argentine Mausers are soon to be 101!
Those are gorgeous.

sawgrass
12-29-2012, 22:11
Those are gorgeous.

Thanks.
I have a soft spot for fine machining and pretty wood.
These two are consecutively numbered and unfired actually.
I have a couple of others that are shooters.

sawgrass
12-29-2012, 22:32
All of these .22's were used except SW model 63.
SW model 41 with two barrels
Beretta model 89
Ruger MK III Hunter
Old Iver Johnson that was my Papaw's
SW model 63

glock2740
12-29-2012, 22:40
Thanks.
I have a soft spot for fine machining and pretty wood.
These two are consecutively numbered and unfired actually.
I have a couple of others that are shooters.

All of these .22's were used except SW model 63.
SW model 41 with two barrels
Beretta model 89
Ruger MK III Hunter
Old Iver Johnson that was my Papaw's
SW model 63
Very nice SG. :cool:

Ruggles
12-29-2012, 22:44
The majority of my guns have come from two or three dealers that I trust. Most of them have been used and I haven't had trouble with any of them. I prefer that someone else take that new gun hit. A couple of my favorite guns are 100 years old.

These Model 1909 Argentine Mausers are soon to be 101!

They can't build that kinda of sexy anymore :)

Ruggles
12-29-2012, 22:45
I think 4" 1911 can run and run well. The 3" 1911s are hit and miss in my experience.

sawgrass
12-29-2012, 22:47
They can't build that kinda of sexy anymore :)

I think that too. Even though I'm hopin' for a little sexy next week!:whistling: But you have to wait until it's here.

sawgrass
12-29-2012, 22:53
They can't build that kinda of sexy anymore :)

The CMP is trying with these Special grade M1's. They do not have the Grace of the Argentine's.

glock2740
12-29-2012, 23:05
The CMP is trying with these Special grade M1's. They do not have the Grace of the Argentine's.
:wow: Wow SG! You have some great taste in your firearms. :thumbsup:

sawgrass
12-29-2012, 23:08
:wow: Wow SG! You have some great taste in your firearms. :thumbsup:

I don't post a lot of pics because I don't use a hosting site etc...but I saw that thread where you kinda told someone to put up or shut up so I thought I better post a few pics..:rofl:

ETA: When I know you better I'll show you my Beretta's. :)

glock2740
12-29-2012, 23:19
I don't post a lot of pics because I don't use a hosting site etc...but I saw that thread where you kinda told someone to put up or shut up so I thought I better post a few pics..:rofl:

ETA: When I know you better I'll show you my Beretta's. :)
You should give Photobucket a try. I like it alot. I can't wait to see those Beretta's. :cool:

sawgrass
12-29-2012, 23:27
You should give Photobucket a try. I like it alot. I can't wait to see those Beretta's. :cool:

I'll take a pic of them when there is natural light.
I LOVE type M Berettas and BHP's almost as much as 1911's.

glock2740
12-29-2012, 23:32
I'll take a pic of them when there is natural light.
I LOVE type M Berettas and BHP's almost as much as 1911's.
I want an 92 Inox someday as well as a BHP. But the BHP will be going to Tussey's to have the barrel cut down and then off to Metaloy to be hardchromed. I want one just like this...:cool:

http://i914.photobucket.com/albums/ac341/OU1911/05.jpg

sawgrass
12-29-2012, 23:37
Well....it's not posting...?
Probably too much drift away from topic.

sawgrass
12-30-2012, 00:16
Dunno...:dunno:

glock2740
12-30-2012, 00:21
Are you using GT's pic space for your pics?

gommer
12-30-2012, 14:32
Traded my STI Guardian for a new Springfield Armory Micro Compact 1911 .45acp. Had so much trouble with the STI, I just couldn't trust it for carry. The Springfield runs like a champ and is even easier to conceal than the STI was. It's my third Springfield and all are fantastic. The paddle holster that came with the standard Springfield kit is perfect for concealed carry (for me at least).


Hmm, needs a disclaimer in the subject. I totally came into this thread thinking you found a place to trade off your wife.

Ugh. Got my hopes up for nothin'. :upeyes:

Bren
12-30-2012, 14:59
I've never found a gun that wouldn't work for me - if they have a problem, I fix it. They're guns, not the space shuttle. I'd love to buy guns at blowout prices from you guys that have all the trouble.