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blueiron
11-16-2012, 02:21
Back when I was around it was a white CVPI, then it was a gold Dodge Intrepid. I have seen Mustang GTs locally. No markings though.

http://www.allpar.com/squads/police-cars/challenger.html

collim1
11-16-2012, 02:41
Ours in normal black and whites that were recently equipped with tag readers. The guys found and made an arrest on two stolen vehicles in the first month! This after years of the admin not believing they would work.

CanIhaveGasCash
11-16-2012, 05:09
I've seen them use this for traffic and patrol and it is probably one of my favorite "marked" units. Unfortunately I can't display the photo.


http://www.flickr.com/photos/ral11us/5394128337/

trdvet
11-16-2012, 06:54
Houston PD

http://i52.tinypic.com/19xtoo.jpg

Ducowti
11-16-2012, 07:32
These "ghost" units as they're known around here, with shades-lighter markings, are effective. One local dept. has one with ALPRs on the trunk (which kind of gives up the stealth factor, but there are plenty of oblivious fish...)


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Glock Holliday
11-16-2012, 07:47
I really don't see the point of a fully marked black-and-white Challenger... but the stealth version is pretty cool.

steveksux
11-16-2012, 08:29
Jambog! http://www.glocktalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1453399:wavey:

Randy

Bruce M
11-16-2012, 09:57
"Leeper said the corporate donor who gave the Mercurys to the state has asked to remain anonymous."

http://www.flhsmv.gov/fhp/PhotoGallery/2004/Marauder.htm


http://www.flhsmv.gov/fhp/PhotoGallery/2004/images/PG120904.jpg

Ajon412
11-16-2012, 10:19
On my prior department (IIRC around 1999-2001), we were utilizing marked yellow Taxi Cabs (CVPI's) for Aggressive Driving Enforcement. It took a few days and numerous 911 calls later for the motoring public to realize that they were actually Police vehicles.......I remember during the first week of deployment, a few motorist refused to yield / pull over...:wow:... It was interesting to see a uniformed officer conducting a traffic stop in a yellow taxi cab with a full light package on the side of the road. Needless to say it was extremely effective. I'm not sure if they're still being utilized.

blueiron
11-16-2012, 11:47
Jambog! http://www.glocktalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1453399:wavey:

Randy

Critic! :tongueout:

Ducowti
11-16-2012, 12:25
On my prior department (IIRC around 1999-2001), we were utilizing marked yellow Taxi Cabs (CVPI's) for Aggressive Driving Enforcement....

...I'm not sure if they're still being utilized.

They are in NYC and surrounding suburbs.



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lndshark
11-16-2012, 13:09
There was a department in Ontario, Canada (it was either Halton Regional or Hamilton) that was utilizing a maroon CVPI, tinted windows with a white TAXI hat on the roof. The hat had the departments phone number printed on it :rofl: I'll see if I have a pic at home...


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Schaffer
11-16-2012, 13:47
I'm sure my Cheif would be on board for the challenger. He's a huge mopar nut and wants a challenger of his own.

CJStudent
11-16-2012, 14:07
That gray Challenger sure was purty!

CGMK
11-17-2012, 02:06
On my prior department (IIRC around 1999-2001), we were utilizing marked yellow Taxi Cabs (CVPI's) for Aggressive Driving Enforcement. It took a few days and numerous 911 calls later for the motoring public to realize that they were actually Police vehicles.......I remember during the first week of deployment, a few motorist refused to yield / pull over...:wow:... It was interesting to see a uniformed officer conducting a traffic stop in a yellow taxi cab with a full light package on the side of the road. Needless to say it was extremely effective. I'm not sure if they're still being utilized.

NYPD was using them like crazy in manhattan when I was stationed there from 2005-07.

Hack
11-17-2012, 17:35
Ft. Bliss, TX used to use any captured civilian car as the point man car, and then they would light up with regular patrol car. Worked OK.

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lndshark
11-17-2012, 20:03
Found it :rofl:

http://www.carzi.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/ontario-undercover-police-taxi.jpg

lndshark
11-17-2012, 20:04
Seattle PD:

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m7y7ebcDIG1rqvefao1_500.jpg

Kingarthurhk
11-17-2012, 21:46
I would love to see one of those in action. When I am running around in my POV people are being flat out morons.

jpa
11-18-2012, 16:58
I'd love to see how effective these units are. Not effective at enforcement but at actually getting citizens to stop. A regular car, no markings, regular passenger car plates, lights up like a christmas tree? Uniformed officer or not, I doubt I would stop before a marked car showed up or their dispatch confirmed they had a car (my car) failing to yield. Seems to me like this would probably happen pretty often, tying up other marked cars from handling calls.

blueiron
11-18-2012, 17:17
I'd love to see how effective these units are. Not effective at enforcement but at actually getting citizens to stop. A regular car, no markings, regular passenger car plates, lights up like a christmas tree? Uniformed officer or not, I doubt I would stop before a marked car showed up or their dispatch confirmed they had a car (my car) failing to yield. Seems to me like this would probably happen pretty often, tying up other marked cars from handling calls.

Much depends on the PR campaign that must go along with the use of these vehicles. PSAs that inform, educate, and remind the public that unmarked traffic enforcement vehicles are operating in a given jurisdiction, to let the motoring public know that these vehicles are legitimate law enforcement, that they are currently operating, and that zero tolerance is in effect for dangerous driving.

It removes the 'whacker element' for compliance, it lets the public know that the police may be watching from unexpected quarters, and gives ample warning to the public that bad and dangerous driving will be dealt with.

Done correctly, it can work on several levels. If a Sergeant just throws a unmarked unit at an officer on a whim and says 'bag everything you see', then a variety of problems could occur.

DaBigBR
11-18-2012, 20:10
I'd love to see how effective these units are. Not effective at enforcement but at actually getting citizens to stop. A regular car, no markings, regular passenger car plates, lights up like a christmas tree? Uniformed officer or not, I doubt I would stop before a marked car showed up or their dispatch confirmed they had a car (my car) failing to yield. Seems to me like this would probably happen pretty often, tying up other marked cars from handling calls.

The vast majority of people wouldn't think twice about stopping. It's not really any different than when the B4C Camaros and SSP Mustangs were out there. Similar even to unmarked Dodge Chargers and Impalas today. I'm sure they're plenty effective.

DaBigBR
11-18-2012, 20:17
From a previous thread:

Indiana State Police:

http://tapatalk.com/mu/a6898f1e-8cb7-1c03.jpg

NEOH212
11-19-2012, 15:20
From a previous thread:

Indiana State Police:

http://tapatalk.com/mu/a6898f1e-8cb7-1c03.jpg

Well, I can honestly say that if I was going to be a cop, I'd want to get in with Indiana State Police!

:cool:

AZLawDawg
11-19-2012, 15:49
Back when I was around it was a white CVPI, then it was a gold Dodge Intrepid. I have seen Mustang GTs locally. No markings though.

http://www.allpar.com/squads/police-cars/challenger.html

I think those are out of one of the east valley departments (I saw one in our parking lot), I do know it certainly ain't us.

4949shooter
11-19-2012, 15:54
An Atlantic City Expressway car:

http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh289/4949shooter/Troop%20Pics/Newesttroopcar-1.jpg

blueiron
11-19-2012, 15:57
http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh289/4949shooter/Troop%20Pics/Newesttroopcar-1.jpg


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[Cannoli Express :supergrin:]


Great photo and I like the graphics.

4949shooter
11-19-2012, 16:01
LOL we can throw the Cannoli's in a cooler and have them out to you in a day or so. :supergrin:

blueiron
11-19-2012, 16:04
LOL we can throw the Cannoli's in a cooler and have them out to you in a day or so. :supergrin:

After all your work with the storm, you need some Arizona distilled tequila.

4949shooter
11-19-2012, 16:20
After all your work with the storm, you need some Arizona distilled tequila.

Sounds good for after the coyote hunting.

jpa
11-21-2012, 22:32
Much depends on the PR campaign that must go along with the use of these vehicles. PSAs that inform, educate, and remind the public that unmarked traffic enforcement vehicles are operating in a given jurisdiction, to let the motoring public know that these vehicles are legitimate law enforcement, that they are currently operating, and that zero tolerance is in effect for dangerous driving.

It removes the 'whacker element' for compliance, it lets the public know that the police may be watching from unexpected quarters, and gives ample warning to the public that bad and dangerous driving will be dealt with.

Done correctly, it can work on several levels. If a Sergeant just throws a unmarked unit at an officer on a whim and says 'bag everything you see', then a variety of problems could occur.

Good point. I think as you say, the biggest part is whether the public is informed that they will have unmarked non-conventional police vehicles playing in traffic. Back when I was a police cadet, the agency I was with had a gold Mercury Cougar and a green Chevy Lumina (yeah, that long ago) issued to the detectives. People constantly refused to stop for them and they always needed a marked car to assist.

blueiron
11-21-2012, 23:01
I think as you say, the biggest part is whether the public is informed that they will have unmarked non-conventional police vehicles playing in traffic.


The best part is that if an agency plays up the information end of it, the motoring public will tend to drive a bit more conservatively, not knowing if the Mustang behind them or the Toyota Camry that they want to pass is a police car.

A bit of uncertainty isn't always a bad thing. :supergrin: