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kaech
11-18-2012, 09:47
Well since I've gotten an FDE glock I found that a weekend/600 rounds at the range really gets the frame/dust cover black (dont notice as much on my tactical black frames)LoL! My question is Do any of you have experience cleaning with simple green? Will it work any better than 90% rubbing alcohol And brush? Right now the only thing that takes it completely off is rubbing alcohol,hoppes 9,ballistol then more rubbing alcohol to get the oil off.....see where this is going

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lyodbraun
11-18-2012, 10:01
Id say it would be fine to use simple green is some good stuff, but just to be sure test it on a spot before doing the whole thing...

SJ 40
11-18-2012, 10:01
I tend to favor cleaning with Ballistol,however I mix it 30% Ballistol to 70% isopropyl alcohol,91 % in a pump sprayer.
Best cleaner I have come across whether it's smokeless or black powder,levees the plastic Glock uses with a nice sheen not dried out like non chlorinated solvents.

Tried using Simple Green on black powder,cleaned well but did nothing that Ballistol didn't but didn't leave a non rusting oil behind like Ballistol, Just my experiences. SJ 40

kaech
11-18-2012, 10:22
Id say it would be fine to use simple green is some good stuff, but just to be sure test it on a spot before doing the whole thing...

Yeah it does state (test a spot b4 use)

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kaech
11-18-2012, 10:24
I tend to favor cleaning with Ballistol,however I mix it 30% Ballistol to 70% isopropyl alcohol,91 % in a pump sprayer.
Best cleaner I have come across whether it's smokeless or black powder,levees the plastic Glock uses with a nice sheen not dried out like non chlorinated solvents.

Tried using Simple Green on black powder,cleaned well but did nothing that Ballistol didn't but didn't leave a non rusting oil behind like Ballistol, Just my experiences. SJ 40

I too have mixed the two. I just dont like use'in the ballistol on my frames. The mixture sure works well on barrels

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wrczx3
11-18-2012, 10:27
I got my 27 as a police trade in and it was disgusting when I bought it. I used simple green to get all the crap out of the frame texture and it worked great. The mixture is 50-50.

kaech
11-18-2012, 10:29
You know i always clean my glocks after each range trip/weekend and im beginning to dislike it. Im getting to the point where i wanna break 'em down and put 'em in the dishwasher.LoL!... with the dry cycle off of course........:screwy:

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Arc Angel
11-18-2012, 10:44
:) Don't mind me; and, yes, I know this is the Internet; however I would strongly encourage you NOT to use any of the following products on either a Glock, or any other polymer frame pistol: Hoppes' #9, Alcohol, or Simple Green.

Once in awhile I'll use a little isopropyl alcohol in order to clean up molybdenum disulfide residue, but only on or inside the barrel. I never see anyone mention it in these threads; but Simple Green does NOT react well with other gun cleaning chemicals, and some metal finishes. Alcohol and polymer frames should be kept apart, too.

For use on a Glock, Ballistol has just the right mixture of mineral oil and Stoddard's solution (?) to get the polymer frame really clean without unduly wearing it out.

kaech
11-18-2012, 10:57
:) Don't mind me; and, yes, I know this is the Internet; however I would strongly encourage you NOT to use any of the following products on either a Glock, or any other polymer frame pistol: Hoppes' #9, Alcohol, or Simple Green.

Once in awhile I'll use a little isopropyl alcohol in order to clean up molybdenum disulfide residue, but only on or inside the barrel. I never see anyone mention it in these threads; but Simple Green does NOT react well with other gun cleaning chemicals, and some metal finishes. Alcohol and polymer frames should be kept apart, too.

For use on a Glock, Ballistol has just the right mixture of mineral oil and Stoddard's solution (?) to get the polymer frame really clean without unduly wearing it out.

Yeah i figured I'd ask around before I just sprayed the frame down. Otherwise I've been using rubbing alcohol and toothbrush for a few years now it works great. The FDE frame is a little stubborn though

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kodiakpb
11-18-2012, 11:04
A little bit of Ballistol on a toothbrush is all you need. I have a hard time believing its not removing the powder residue on your frame.

SJ 40
11-18-2012, 11:14
A little bit of Ballistol on a toothbrush is all you need. I have a hard time believing its not removing the powder residue on your frame.It does leave my OD's spotless. SJ 40

kaech
11-18-2012, 11:31
A little bit of Ballistol on a toothbrush is all you need. I have a hard time believing its not removing the powder residue on your frame.

It does,after a few applications. I asked about simple green cause im looking for a easier way. 600/700 rounds of augila sure does leave a tan dustcover/rails caked thick

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kaech
11-18-2012, 11:33
It does leave my OD's spotless. SJ 40

After how much shooting 200 rounds tops...right?

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kaech
11-18-2012, 11:37
1 Passover

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GaryC
11-18-2012, 11:51
:) Don't mind me; and, yes, I know this is the Internet; however I would strongly encourage you NOT to use any of the following products on either a Glock, or any other polymer frame pistol: Hoppes' #9, Alcohol, or Simple Green.

Once in awhile I'll use a little isopropyl alcohol in order to clean up molybdenum disulfide residue, but only on or inside the barrel. I never see anyone mention it in these threads; but Simple Green does NOT react well with other gun cleaning chemicals, and some metal finishes. Alcohol and polymer frames should be kept apart, too.

For use on a Glock, Ballistol has just the right mixture of mineral oil and Stoddard's solution (?) to get the polymer frame really clean without unduly wearing it out.

Is Stoddard's solution the same thing as Stoddard Solvent?

http://www.atsdr.cdc.gov/csem/stoddard/docs/stoddard.pdf

SJ 40
11-18-2012, 12:09
After how much shooting 200 rounds tops...right?

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kaech
11-18-2012, 12:29
300-500 rounds but then again I am shooting my handloads for ammunition. SJ 40

Must be clean powder. Mabey its the augila

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gunsmoke92
11-18-2012, 12:55
Dawn dish soap, a scrub brush, some warm water, and about 5 minutes of your time. No mixing, no fuss, no muss, nothing but a clean frame. Dry, lube, and return to service. What could be easier?

Arc Angel
11-18-2012, 15:23
Is Stoddard's solution the same thing as Stoddard Solvent?

http://www.atsdr.cdc.gov/csem/stoddard/docs/stoddard.pdf

Yes it is; and in excessive amounts it's been reported to be a carcinogen, too. (I should have called it, 'solvent'.) :freak:

For whatever it's worth I just spent 30 minutes reviewing my notes on Glock maintenance. MarkCO describes Glock's D6 polymer as being highly acid resistant; 'Better, in fact, than steel.'

On the other hand The Metropolitan Art Museum describes acid formulation as one of the main contributors to the deterioration of plastic artifacts; AND, according to the museum this deterioration can begin as early as 70 to 80 years into the life of many plastic pieces. Worse, once it begins, it's irreversible.

(Perhaps I should point out that museum plastic art is almost completely STATIC. Glock pistols, on the other hand, are used dynamically - 'Frame harmonics' and all that!) ;)

So, do whatever you want. I keep straight alcohol off my polymer frames; and I always use snap caps whenever I dry fire (like everyday). Maybe what I really need to do is to call Smyrna, and lean all over one of the tech support people until he finally breaks down and tells me alcohol is OK; and I really don't need to use anymore snap caps, either! :supergrin:

In any event straight alcohol isn't used in anybody's commercial gun cleaning kit; and, as far as I'm concerned, neither should it be. Most of the guns I've owned have turned out to be, 'life investments' for me; and, now that I'm selling them off, the fact that I've taken very good and very gentle care of them is reflected in the high prices I've been getting. :)

Averageman
11-18-2012, 15:39
I use simple green to clean turbine engines.
Not a bad product and rather gentle. I'm not sure what it does to poly frames, but it doesn't seem to bother a wiring harness.

GaryC
11-18-2012, 16:15
Yes it is; and in excessive amounts it's been reported to be a carcinogen, too. (I should have called it, 'solvent'.) :freak:

For whatever it's worth I just spent 30 minutes reviewing my notes on Glock maintenance. MarkCO describes Glock's D6 polymer as being highly acid resistant; 'Better, in fact, than steel.'

On the other hand The Metropolitan Art Museum describes acid formulation as one of the main contributors to the deterioration of plastic artifacts; AND, according to the museum this deterioration can begin as early as 70 to 80 years into the life of many plastic pieces. Worse, once it begins, it's irreversible.

(Perhaps I should point out that museum plastic art is almost completely STATIC. Glock pistols, on the other hand, are used dynamically - 'Frame harmonics' and all that!) ;)

So, do whatever you want. I keep straight alcohol off my polymer frames; and I always use snap caps whenever I dry fire (like everyday). Maybe what I really need to do is to call Smyrna, and lean all over one of the tech support people until he finally breaks down and tells me alcohol is OK; and I really don't need to use anymore snap caps, either! :supergrin:

In any event straight alcohol isn't used in anybody's commercial gun cleaning kit; and, as far as I'm concerned, neither should it be. Most of the guns I've owned have turned out to be, 'life investments' for me; and, now that I'm selling them off, the fact that I've taken very good and very gentle care of them is reflected in the high prices I've been getting. :)

Thank you for this and all the other great information you provide on this forum.

:perfect10:

DougW
11-18-2012, 16:23
Simple Green is a surfactant that is petroleum based. It will stress crack CPVC like a animal fat or petrolium product would in a 24 hour immersion test. That being said, the Glock is probably made from a form of ABS and is very chemical resistant and durable (but I am sure Glock would never reveal that secret).

Plastics are used is chemical and solvent applications, but not the same plastics. Using a 20% Simple Green in water would probably never hurt a Glock. I would hesitate to use alcohol though.

AK47Man
11-18-2012, 17:03
Yep..That frame sure is dirty...50-50 mix of Simple Green will do it....I would consider using a cleaner brand ammo on your range trips....

kaech
11-18-2012, 17:26
Yep..That frame sure is dirty...50-50 mix of Simple Green will do it....I would consider using a cleaner brand ammo on your range trips....

Yeah, i just cant beat SG's augila case price. Its down fall is if you shoot 600 at a time it gets very dirty

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Glock Junkie
11-18-2012, 19:26
Yeah, i just cant beat SG's augila case price. Its down fall is if you shoot 600 at a time it gets very dirty

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What are you paying a case?

AustinTx
11-18-2012, 22:44
Stuff affects plastic different ways. I have an old Motorola 3 watt cell phone, it's old. Been stored, case zipped up, in the garage about 15 years. I got it out recently, to get the antenna for something else. The plastic cover, on the antenna (flexible when new, like rubber) broke apart when I touched it and the plastic cover on the handset cord had turned to some sort of gooey liquid. It just ran off the coiled cord, into the case. One plastic turned to liquid and the other lost all it's flexibility.