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bigmoney890
11-19-2012, 13:38
What are your guys thoughts on used surplus GI magazines? For those of you who don't like them, at what price would you consider buying some? And for those who love them, what do you usually pay for them?


Just bought a 3 pack for $20 at one of the copious local military surplus shops, and i figured at 7 bucks a piece including taxes, it can't hurt to stock up. Not a great deal, but better than spending twice as much online for new aluminum/steel mags.

Leigh
11-19-2012, 14:02
I've used them for years and as long as the spring and follower are good the unit is GTG.

That said, I've had the best luck with C-Products brand (black teflon coated) at about $10 each. AIM Surplus has quality aluminum mags. Stay away from any AR magazine (metal or plastic) made by USA Brand/ProMag/Thermold as they are generally junk.

While I do own and use a number of Magpul Pmags, their torture-testing is pretty unrealisitc for those of us in a non-combat world.

bigmoney890
11-19-2012, 14:07
Stay away from any AR magazine (metal or plastic) made by USA Brand/ProMag/Thermold as they are generally junk.


I've heard this in the past few months, but the $200 for 50 mags from CDNN is just soooo tempting. So while on their site today ordering some Glock magazines, I added a thermold 20 round mag in my cart. Gonna take it to the range a few times and test it out. If it's gtg, ill buy the 50 pack, if it doesn't, I only wasted $4.96 on the one mag.

K. Foster
11-19-2012, 14:47
Used USGI are fine. As long as they aren’t too used. Inspect the whole mag, spine, feed lips, base plate for dents or cracks. I run MagPul followers in all my USGI’s.

bigmoney890
11-19-2012, 14:55
Used USGI are fine. As long as they arenít too used. Inspect the whole mag, spine, feed lips, base plate for dents or cracks. I run MagPul followers in all my USGIís.


Looking into followers right now, they all checked out fine at the store. Once I got home I checked all of them in my gun, all seated fine, dropped free, locked back when empty, and all of them feed fine. I'll probably order some magpul followers in a few weeks and continue to pick up a 3 pack every time I go into town.

LA_357SIG
11-19-2012, 15:14
Looking into followers right now, they all checked out fine at the store. Once I got home I checked all of them in my gun, all seated fine, dropped free, locked back when empty, and all of them feed fine. I'll probably order some magpul followers in a few weeks and continue to pick up a 3 pack every time I go into town.

I have had good luck with Brownells new production GI mags. This is the first 10/$99 pack I bought and installed Magpul followers on. TBH I have a slight distrust for used aluminum magazines. I never bought any, 5 I have gotten in trade deals over the years all have turned out to be trash. No NIW aluminum mag I bought has given me any problems whatsoever.
http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k252/chrisq_01/1300740297.jpg

bigmoney890
11-19-2012, 15:19
I have had good luck with Brownells new production GI mags. This is the first 10/$99 pack I bought and installed Magpul followers on. TBH I have a slight distrust for used aluminum magazines. I never bought any, 5 I have gotten in trade deals over the years all have turned out to be trash. No NIW aluminum mag I bought has given me any problems whatsoever.
http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k252/chrisq_01/1300740297.jpg


At $10 ea. plus $2 per mag for magpul followers i'd rather just buy pmags.



But these mags will be just in case a ban goes into effect and for range use. For any classes I'll be using PMAGs, and my gun will be kept loaded with a PMAG for home defense as well

faawrenchbndr
11-19-2012, 15:35
Avoid CProducts...........they went don hill flyer Larry C sold the company.
I REALLY like Colt 20 round mags. Mil-surp are good mags.
Brownells normal have some for around $11 each

Leigh
11-19-2012, 15:53
Avoid CProducts...........they went don hill flyer Larry C sold the company.

My CP have been flawless (albiet 3-4 years old)...made somewhere in CT....who took over the company?

Leigh
11-19-2012, 15:56
Also inspect the # of weld dimples on the spine....most quality 30-round aluminum mags have no less than proably 6/7 or so. More is probably better than less in this regard. Some Korean (I think) versions I've seen had as little as three (probably not good).

faawrenchbndr
11-19-2012, 16:00
My CP have been flawless (albiet 3-4 years old)...made somewhere in CT....who took over the company?

Larry sold about two years ago,........quality went to crap,
orders that were paid for were never filled, a general nightmare.
Search ARFcom or M4Carbie

mjkeat
11-19-2012, 16:01
Nothing wrong w/ GIs. I still use some of the ones I found in a MRE case sitting in the garbage dumpster.

Leigh
11-19-2012, 16:05
Keep in mind, Colt-marked aluminum magazines are made by contractors such as Labelle and Circle-K (both good), to not so good such as Sanchez and Cooper Industries (and I'm sure maybe some others). Not bashing Colt at all, but they haven't made their own mags in many, many years.

Leigh
11-19-2012, 16:06
Larry sold about two years ago,........quality went to crap,
orders that were paid for were never filled, a general nightmare.
Search ARFcom or M4Carbie

That sucks, I didn't know that. Thankfully, there are still some good aluminum GI makers out there.

Leigh
11-19-2012, 16:17
All said, I have a 20-rounder from VN that has very little finish left, a silver metal follower and a 40+ year old spring that is still reliable. I guess everything is relative.

faawrenchbndr
11-19-2012, 16:17
Keep in mind, Colt-marked aluminum magazines are made by contractors such as Labelle and Circle-K (both good), to not so good such as Sanchez and Cooper Industries (and I'm sure maybe some others). Not bashing Colt at all, but they haven't made their own mags in many, many years.

Very true,......however, I've ever been let down by a straight twenty
rounder with an alloy follower. :supergrin:

Leigh
11-19-2012, 16:19
Very true,......however, I've ever been let down by a straight twenty
rounder with an alloy follower. :supergrin:

Funny, faaw, I just posted about the exact same type of mag with no issues...Ha!
:supergrin:

Leigh
11-19-2012, 16:23
I think we can all agree that quality AR mags (metal or synthetic) are out there and available for a reasonable price. I think $10-12 bucks for a quality GI mag magazine is still a bargain.

I don't know how many of you guys lived thru Clinton's AWB (Sept 94/Sept 2004) but prices were insane and I will NEVER be held hostage like that again!

faawrenchbndr
11-19-2012, 16:27
I don't know how many of you guys lived thru Clinton's AWB (Sept 94/Sept 2004) but prices were insane and I will NEVER be held hostage like that again!

:supergrin:

I fired the M16 for the first time in 1985. Bought my 1st AR in
1989. Been there,.....dealt with that. :whistling:

Jason D
11-19-2012, 16:28
I have used pretty much nothing but GI magazines for the last decade. My guns don't really prefer one contractor over another, as I have never had a problem with any of them. I think 10 bucks or less for a used but good shape magazine isn't that bad. I wouldn't pay more than that normally.

I also have a dozen or so Brownells magazines and the couple I have tested have been 100% reliable. I have recently started buying Pmags and while I have again about a dozen of them. I have yet to try them out.

Leigh
11-19-2012, 16:39
:supergrin:

I fired the M16 for the first time in 1985. Bought my 1st AR in
1989. Been there,.....dealt with that. :whistling:

M16 in '84 courtesy of some "polite gentlemen" on Parris Island, SC.

First AR in '91-92 when my LGS had ALL of 3 flavors; Colt, Bushmaster, and possibly Olympic Arms (?)

I went with a Colt "LW Sporter" for about $519 + Kentucky sales tax.

Wow. That said, I feel really old.

faawrenchbndr
11-19-2012, 16:51
Yep,......old school, old dirt. :cool:

Leigh
11-19-2012, 16:55
My guns don't really prefer one contractor over another, as I have never had a problem with any of them.

Agreed. Back in the day, the WWW was scant with reviews so I was always keen to look for items that DoD trashed (i.e. Sanchez brand M16 mags and some companies for the M9 9mm mags).

Prior to anything synthetic, Labelle was known as the "King" of reliable AR15/M16 mags and were not more expensive (if at all) than some other so-so contractor's offerings.

As for PMags, they are constructed quite well and possibly over-engineered like true AK steel mags, which suits me just fine.

And being less than low-drag-high-speed, the LAST thing I need is to have a defective AR mag when my 200-meter paper target decides to go all rogue on me at the range!
:supergrin:

Leigh
11-19-2012, 16:56
Yep,......old school, old dirt. :cool:


Roger that.

bigmoney890
11-19-2012, 17:00
I think we can all agree that quality AR mags (metal or synthetic) are out there and available for a reasonable price. I think $10-12 bucks for a quality GI mag magazine is still a bargain.

I don't know how many of you guys lived thru Clinton's AWB (Sept 94/Sept 2004) but prices were insane and I will NEVER be held hostage like that again!

All of the magazines I picked up today were marked 09/04.
I presume they were all made as the ban expired, but they are still marked Gov't/LE use only.

John Biltz
11-20-2012, 01:19
Depends on how used they are. GIs are really good at breaking things. It also depends on how you are planning on using them. For range work? Sure, why not. Personally, I think PMAGs are cheap and a quality product so its what I buy.

FatBoy
11-20-2012, 11:53
What are your guys thoughts on used surplus GI magazines? For those of you who don't like them, at what price would you consider buying some? And for those who love them, what do you usually pay for them?


Just bought a 3 pack for $20 at one of the copious local military surplus shops, and i figured at 7 bucks a piece including taxes, it can't hurt to stock up. Not a great deal, but better than spending twice as much online for new aluminum/steel mags.

The last new "GI" mags I bought were $90/10 shipped(currently OOS), and DSG has PMags for $100/10 +shipping this week. Just sayin'.
http://dsgarms.com/ProductInfo/DSGHOLIDAYPK1.aspx

ETA: Copes has $90/10 D&H w/ MagPul followers Free ship this week http://www.copesdistributing.net/black-friday-pack-ar15-30rd-wmagpul-follower-black-p-5733.html

bigmoney890
11-20-2012, 12:04
All of the magazines I picked up today were marked 09/04.
I presume they were all made as the ban expired, but they are still marked Gov't/LE use only.

I stand corrected, 2 of the 3 mags i picked up are marked 07/04, but all 3 are marked Gov't/LE use only

Depends on how used they are. GIs are really good at breaking things. It also depends on how you are planning on using them. For range work? Sure, why not. Personally, I think PMAGs are cheap and a quality product so its what I buy.

The GI mags are for range use only

The last new "GI" mags I bought were $90/10 shipped(currently OOS), and DSG has PMags for $100/10 +shipping this week. Just sayin'.
http://dsgarms.com/ProductInfo/DSGHOLIDAYPK1.aspx

I've been looking around and have seen the 10 pack on dsgarms.com, but I'd rather just pay the $12 for pmags than the $10 for GI mags. That's just a personal preference. But at $7 a piece for the used GI mags I found, it's about half the price of shipped PMAGs and they are all in good shape.

wwcadre
11-21-2012, 09:55
I have about 70 GI surplus mags. Most of them were used and just given to me. I changed all the springs and followers with new ones and have yet to have a problem with any of them.

That being said, I am very impressed with the Pmags and Troy battle mags. I think they are a vast improvement in design and function. I will probably pick up a few, 20 or so, of them to add to my stash. Im kind of a magazine horder.

bigmoney890
11-21-2012, 11:24
Well I have no doubt that the old GI mags will function fine.

The pre-ban I got from my parents functioned fine on sunday and i'm about to head out to the range again and I shall test the ones I got on monday. If they function fine then i'm good to go, if not, i'll change out the followers and then run them.