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USMCsilver
11-22-2012, 09:01
Buy or pass @ $35? :dunno:

bmoore
11-22-2012, 09:28
I'm not into the polymer lowers.

larson1122
11-22-2012, 13:15
Pass and pick up one of these instead: http://palmettostatearmory.com/index.php/ar-15-05/lower-parts/lower-receivers/palmetto-state-armory-blemished-lower-receiver.html

Or sign up for their email newsletter and wait for them to go on sale for Black Friday.

WoodenPlank
11-22-2012, 14:03
Buy or pass @ $35? :dunno:

PASS.

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Cole125
11-22-2012, 14:13
Maybe for a dedicated .22 lr build, for 5.56 PASS.

03Cobra
11-22-2012, 19:09
with lowers available at $69 from PSA I would pass - but at $35 it may be worth testing out as long as you have a backup in the PSA

MrMurphy
11-22-2012, 19:52
Run away from it like a $3 hooker with gonoherposyphilitis B.

yellowhand
11-22-2012, 23:53
I built one last year.
Had the parts sitting around.
Placed a 20 inch pencil barrel upper(5.56) onto it and took it to the range.
Fired 300 rounds and not one problem.
Service grade for accuracy.
All of my mags fit, used four types/brands, steel, alum, plastic.
All feed and dropped free.
Have since built three more for other people.
Two 5,56 and a dedicated 22lr.
No one has reported any problems.
My wife shoots ours :upeyes: once a month and still no issues.
She likes the lite weight.
Hope this helps...
My SHTF weapon of choice is still one of the FALs:wavey:

Roger1079
11-23-2012, 05:40
I agree with the above poster that mentioned caliber. For a .22LR, polymer fits the bill. For .223 polymer would be my last choice especially with other options like PSA being as inexpensive as they are.

amd65
11-23-2012, 07:24
I put together a New Frontier poly lower AR last year. I had a spare upper and BCG.
The complete lower with internals and stock was $79.
It has worked perfectly through 500rds so far...I like it.

mac66
11-23-2012, 09:13
For $35 I would buy several of them to play with. Polymer lowers are the wave of the AR future IMO just like the Glock was the wave of the future of pistols.

BTW, I have a couple Cav Arms lowers which work well.

KML
11-23-2012, 09:38
Check out this review


http://www.gunsholstersandgear.com/2012/09/20/ati-omni-ar15-polymer-lower-unboxing-and-initial-thoughts/

WoodenPlank
11-23-2012, 16:51
For $35 I would buy several of them to play with. Polymer lowers are the wave of the AR future IMO just like the Glock was the wave of the future of pistols.

BTW, I have a couple Cav Arms lowers which work well.

Glocks were designed for polymer from the beginning. So was the SCAR.

The AR platform was not. Look at all the attempts to make a polymer-framed 1911. They pretty much all suck.

$35 for a polymer lower, $50-70 for an aluminum one made to spec(even if it has a cosmetic blemish). Not a hard ****ing decision.

mixflip
11-24-2012, 01:51
After seeing pictures of that polymer AR lower with broken receiver pin holes...I really lost all confidence in any and all polymer AR lowers. I have never seen an aluminum lower break.

onebigelf
11-24-2012, 08:25
I have two. One is a dedicated .22LR and is great fun. The other is an ultra lightweight built for my 5'1" Irish Redhead (87lbs). Both have run flawlessly, several thousand rounds in the .22 and about 800 on the 5.56. I have a spare complete lower on a Spikes Tactical receiver just in case.

John

Rooster Rugburn
11-24-2012, 11:16
For $35, curiosity would get the better of me. Why not? You have other rifles if you ever find yourself in N. Dallas needing a Noveske and a Glock with a 30 round mag in a drop leg holster.

mac66
11-24-2012, 12:25
Glocks were designed for polymer from the beginning. So was the SCAR.

The AR platform was not. Look at all the attempts to make a polymer-framed 1911. They pretty much all suck.

$35 for a polymer lower, $50-70 for an aluminum one made to spec(even if it has a cosmetic blemish). Not a hard ****ing decision.

If a viable plastic had been around at the time the AR probably would have been designed for it. It is really immaterial what it was designed for.

WoodenPlank
11-24-2012, 18:40
If a viable plastic had been around at the time the AR probably would have been designed for it. It is really immaterial what it was designed for.

How do you figure? The dimensions of the receivers were designed with aluminum in mind. Trying to replicate it in polymer is going to sacrifice size or strength. You can only sacrifice so much in size before you're unable to use standard parts.

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Foxtrotx1
11-24-2012, 19:41
If a viable plastic had been around at the time the AR probably would have been designed for it. It is really immaterial what it was designed for.

I'm so glad a mechanical engineer such as your self has chimed in.

mac66
11-25-2012, 10:08
I'm so glad a mechanical engineer such as your self has chimed in.

I shouldn't have to remind you that many things previous made and designed of one thing, i.e., wood, stone, bronze, copper, brass, iron, steel, aluminum are now made of something else.

mac66
11-25-2012, 10:15
How do you figure? The dimensions of the receivers were designed with aluminum in mind. Trying to replicate it in polymer is going to sacrifice size or strength. You can only sacrifice so much in size before you're unable to use standard parts.

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You are essentially arguing that something that already exists can't be done. (Bumblebees can't fly) Polymer lowers have already been made for 10+ years and they work.

Your real argument is basically the same as
the "if men were meant to fly they would have wings" argument against airplanes.

WoodenPlank
11-25-2012, 10:22
You are essentially arguing that something that already exists can't be done. (Bumblebees can't fly) Polymer lowers have already been made for 10+ years and they work.

Your real argument is basically the same as
the "if men were meant to fly they would have wings" argument against airplanes.

Polymer lowers also break at a significantly higher rate than forged or billet aluminum lowers do. Just because it can be made does not mean it is an adequate replacement.You're basically arguing that one of the contraptions from Red Bull Flugtag is just as good as a 747.

bmoore
11-25-2012, 10:23
You are essentially arguing that something that already exists can't be done. (Bumblebees can't fly) Polymer lowers have already been made for 10+ years and they work.

Your real argument is basically the same as
the "if men were meant to fly they would have wings" argument against airplanes.

......

AZson
12-18-2012, 20:31
I'll buy, where do you get them?

jakebrake
12-18-2012, 20:32
Maybe for a dedicated .22 lr build, for 5.56 PASS.

i'd go with that.

WoodenPlank
12-18-2012, 20:56
I'll buy, where do you get them?

Good luck finding ANY lowers right now for anything but outrageous prices.

yellowhand
12-18-2012, 21:11
Good luck finding ANY lowers right now for anything but outrageous prices.

I got three in today from;
http://palmettostatearmory.com/index.php/review/product/list/id/10324/category/42/

But, they are now out, as of today, as well as for everything else.
The things work as I noted above somewhere.
I suspect these are like Jeeps.
My Wrangler has 170,000 plus miles and is all original and has never been rebuilt. And looks new.
Other people get 20,000 miles and need new rearends, trannys and engines.
For the 20,000 miles guys, Jeeps breakdown and are worthless, for me, best vehicle I've ever own.
Abuse anything and it breaks.