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jhoagland
11-22-2012, 20:21
Would a RIA stock 1911 handle this load from CorBon?
Nope, I don't mind sounding stupid up front to prove from being stupid and hurting myself.
Thanks.:whistling:

firefighter4215
11-22-2012, 20:44
It might, but why risk it? +p is enough. Some would argue standard pressure is enough. Just my $.02

jhoagland
11-22-2012, 21:05
Hard to turn down free ammo.

Andy W
11-22-2012, 21:27
I've never seen a +p+ .45 load, let alone one from Corbon. I didn't see it on their website either. If it really is +p+ I wouldn't shoot it through a 1911, at least not very many of them. Really there is no reason to load .45 ACP that hot in the first place. A standard pressure 230 grain JHP should handle your self defense needs just fine.


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Andy W
11-22-2012, 21:32
Do you have more information on this ammo? Maybe a product number or some pics of the markings on the box and on the cases?


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Merkavaboy
11-22-2012, 22:48
No such thing as a 45 ACP+P+.

WinterWizard
11-23-2012, 00:32
No such thing as .45 ACP +P+.

jhoagland
11-23-2012, 04:07
OK, I'll get it and take a picture. This info was over the phone. So would a 1911 handle +p then? I'm just curious. I've been carrying Golden Saber and Speer for Ummm, 6 years.

4949shooter
11-23-2012, 07:39
I would be careful firing certain +p ammo in a 1911, Hoagland. I had a series 80 Colt yerars back, and firing Remington 185 grain +p ammo, it broke the slide stop. You would be better off firing +p .45 ammo through a Glock.

The Remington was loaded hot though, so maybe the Corbon wouldn't be as bad.

It looks pretty hot though:

http://www.shopcorbon.com/Self-Defense-JHP/45-Auto-Plus-P-185gr-CORBON-Self-Defense-JHP/SD45185-20/100/Product

SCmasterblaster
11-23-2012, 09:07
If I recall right, CorBon makes +p ammo. Winchester and Federal and a few others makes +p+ ammo, but in 9mm and .38 Special only.

Andy W
11-23-2012, 10:01
I would be careful firing certain +p ammo in a 1911, Hoagland. I had a series 80 Colt yerars back, and firing Remington 185 grain +p ammo, it broke the slide stop. You would be better off firing +p .45 ammo through a Glock.

The Remington was loaded hot though, so maybe the Corbon wouldn't be as bad.

It looks pretty hot though:

http://www.shopcorbon.com/Self-Defense-JHP/45-Auto-Plus-P-185gr-CORBON-Self-Defense-JHP/SD45185-20/100/Product

Corbon loads their +p ammo pretty warm. You might get a heavier recoil spring if you want to shoot a lot of them.


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SCmasterblaster
11-23-2012, 10:08
Corbon loads their +p ammo pretty warm. You might get a heavier recoil spring if you want to shoot a lot of them.


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Years ago I chronographed the 115gr JHP CorBon load. It averaged 1370 fps!

clarkz71
11-23-2012, 10:49
Corbon loads their +p ammo pretty warm. You might get a heavier recoil spring if you want to shoot a lot of them.


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I agree. I shot Reminton +P 185gr in my Series70
Colt Gold Cup. You could feel the slide bottom out.
That's why that other guy broke a slide stop.

I think the stock spring is 18 lbs, check on that.
get a Wolff 20 or 22 lb spring and you should be OK.

That's what I did and had no problems

uz2bUSMC
11-23-2012, 10:57
Would a RIA stock 1911 handle this load from CorBon?
Nope, I don't mind sounding stupid up front to prove from being stupid and hurting myself.
Thanks.:whistling:

I don't know how the heat treating is now but as I understand it the RIA gun are inconsistent. If it has any weak points, the +P"+" might expose it sooner rather than later.

Zombie Steve
11-23-2012, 11:24
16 pound spring is standard. If you plan on shooting it a lot, drop in an 18 pound spring. If your brass is still getting flung into the next county, consider something even stronger.


Guys drop heavier springs in 1911's and shoot .45 Super all the time. If the case web in the brass is up to the task, shouldn't be a problem.

jhoagland
11-25-2012, 13:58
Thanks for all the replies guys. I still have not got it yet. I get so busy sometimes I can't find time to change my mind.

SCmasterblaster
11-25-2012, 19:44
Thanks for all the replies guys. I still have not got it yet. I get so busy sometimes I can't find time to change my mind.

Just let us know if they are labeled .45 ACP +p+.

TeamCorbon
11-26-2012, 06:30
We have never made any 45 auto ammunition that was +P+.

The OP's question, yes it is safe to use any of our ammunition in your 1911 pistol. The advice about the heavier recoil spring is good.

Thank you,

SCmasterblaster
11-27-2012, 09:38
We have never made any 45 auto ammunition that was +P+.

The OP's question, yes it is safe to use any of our ammunition in your 1911 pistol. The advice about the heavier recoil spring is good.

Thank you,

I don't recall if CorBon makes ANY rounds in +p+.

TeamCorbon
11-28-2012, 07:06
We did make some 38 Spl in a 115 gr JHP in +P+ back in the early 90's.

clarkz71
11-28-2012, 07:25
We did make some 38 Spl in a 115 gr JHP in +P+ back in the early 90's.

What do you feel is the best SD ammo
you have for a G23? Most like 165gr.

I currently use Golden Saber in 165gr.

TeamCorbon
12-01-2012, 11:08
Seriously, any of our 40 loads are really good. I would feel comfortable with JHPs in 135, 150 or 165 gr, PowRball or DPX. They all work extremely well in a 40.

SCmasterblaster
12-01-2012, 11:14
When I get my G22, I'll be sure to use CorBon ammo for CCW.

samurairabbi
12-01-2012, 11:30
We did make some 38 Spl in a 115 gr JHP in +P+ back in the early 90's.

Is +P+ an official SAAMI rating classification? I had thought it was an "imformal" market-driven hype ... Sort of like the XXX rating porno flicks used to advertise.

SCmasterblaster
12-01-2012, 11:38
Is +P+ an official SAAMI rating classification? I had thought it was an "imformal" market-driven hype ... Sort of like the XXX rating porno flicks used to advertise.

I think that you are correct. There is no official SAAMI stated pressure for +p+. This doesn't stop me from CCWing WW 9mm +p+ 115gr JHP rounds.

Andy W
12-01-2012, 19:20
When I get my G22, I'll be sure to use CorBon ammo for CCW.

I'm not the Corbon guy but when I shoot .40 I prefer 180 grain bullets. The recoil is a lot more manageable + it's a nice heavy bullet. Those Corbon loads, while good, are probably gonna be harder to control.


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PBR Sailor
12-01-2012, 20:31
If it is military issue ammunition, it will beat the hell out of your pistol. There was some .45 ACP loaded with 230 grain projectiles at 950 fps that was issued to certain US Navy and US Army personnel. I would not shoot it out of a RIA 1911.

Andy W
12-01-2012, 20:50
If it is military issue ammunition, it will beat the hell out of your pistol. There was some .45 ACP loaded with 230 grain projectiles at 950 fps that was issued to certain US Navy and US Army personnel. I would not shoot it out of a RIA 1911.

That's interesting. That's 100 fps faster than regular 230 grain hardball. Do you know what it was for? Seems like the standard stuff would do the job just fine.


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PBR Sailor
12-03-2012, 11:18
That's interesting. That's 100 fps faster than regular 230 grain hardball. Do you know what it was for? Seems like the standard stuff would do the job just fine.


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I was told by a vendor that this ammunition was loaded for military personnel engaged in unconventional warfare. Maybe it's true and maybe it's not. I shot some through my Kimber and it was hot. It really beat the daylights out of my pistol. I would not recommend shooting it.

Andy W
12-03-2012, 18:06
I was told by a vendor that this ammunition was loaded for military personnel engaged in unconventional warfare. Maybe it's true and maybe it's not. I shot some through my Kimber and it was hot. It really beat the daylights out of my pistol. I would not recommend shooting it.
I bet it would be fine through a Glock 21, HK, or P220 though.




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