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DARKSHADOW
11-25-2012, 18:29
I cought this on an episode of Columbo titled "Now you see him".

It shows someone screwing a suppressor into a revolver. And no, it wasn't a Nagant. And by into, I mean he screwed it to the inside of the barrel and not to the outside. The first pic is with the suppressor, second pic as he was screwing it in.

I had to rewind a pause the TV and took the pics with my phone.
Enjoy. :whistling:

http://imageshack.us/a/img692/5854/silentrevolver2.jpg

http://imageshack.us/a/img163/8352/silentrevolver1.jpg

97XJ_Sport
11-25-2012, 18:48
At least one of the bad cops in "Magnum Force" slipped a suppressor onto his Python. I always thought that was pretty funny.

gwalchmai
11-25-2012, 19:01
Movie magic. Happens all the time. Considering all the inaccuracies that we notice about TV and the movies, why do we watch them at all?

97XJ_Sport
11-25-2012, 23:52
Movie magic. Happens all the time. Considering all the inaccuracies that we notice about TV and the movies, why do we watch them at all?

Doesn't mean they aren't entertaining.

TK-421
11-25-2012, 23:57
From RED. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1245526/

Is it just me, or wouldn't the front sight sticking up get in the way of the scope, since the scope doesn't appear to be mounted above the front sight?

http://www.imfdb.org/images/thumb/0/07/Red_305.jpg/600px-Red_305.jpg

arclight610
11-26-2012, 00:05
From RED. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1245526/

Is it just me, or wouldn't the front sight sticking up get in the way of the scope, since the scope doesn't appear to be mounted above the front sight?

http://www.imfdb.org/images/thumb/0/07/Red_305.jpg/600px-Red_305.jpg

No. The focal point of the scope isn't the front sight base, it is "beyond" the front sight base. So, the front sight base doesn't show up on higher magnifications. On lower magnification, it shows up as a little black blob on the lower part of the view.

http://maxicon.com/guns/optics/cmmg_leup_pr_fsb_3x-2-a.jpg

TK-421
11-26-2012, 00:08
Well I think scopes need to work like I think they should, so that I can be right more often. :tongueout:

Lowjiber
11-26-2012, 05:37
From RED. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1245526/

Is it just me, or wouldn't the front sight sticking up get in the way of the scope, since the scope doesn't appear to be mounted above the front sight?

http://www.imfdb.org/images/thumb/0/07/Red_305.jpg/600px-Red_305.jpg
There's a gun in that picture?:rofl:

eruby
11-26-2012, 06:19
Same thing in The Sting. Screwed a suppresor on a revolver. Either the hit lady, or the guy protecting Redford from the hit lady.

Hooray for Hollywood!!

ithaca_deerslayer
11-26-2012, 06:22
Those were special bottle neck cartridges that shoot through the inside of the reduced diameter supressor barrel.

Don't you even own a gun?

ithaca_deerslayer
11-26-2012, 06:24
There's a gun in that picture?:rofl:

The pretty face is going to get hit the face with brass :)

aaronmj
11-26-2012, 07:04
Those were special bottle neck cartridges that shoot through the inside of the reduced diameter supressor barrel.

Don't you even own a gun?


It's not a suppressor, it's a turkey - full choke!

DARKSHADOW
11-26-2012, 21:16
Those were special bottle neck cartridges that shoot through the inside of the reduced diameter supressor barrel.

Don't you even own a gun?

It's not a suppressor, it's a turkey - full choke!

Thanks guy's, ya learn something new every day. :supergrin:

:rofl:

Mushinto
11-26-2012, 23:32
Well I think scopes need to work like I think they should, so that I can be right more often. :tongueout:

That's funny.

MadMonkey
11-27-2012, 00:02
There are internally threaded barrels.

TK-421
11-27-2012, 00:07
That's funny.

If you don't think I'm right, then I'm going to change the laws of the universe so that I'm right. :tongueout:

:rofl:

cgwahl
11-27-2012, 01:20
Agarralo Como Puedas - Cantar en la ducha - YouTube

Paul53
11-27-2012, 01:36
Silencers screw into the barrels of the revolvers that never need reloading.

Foxtrotx1
11-27-2012, 01:54
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=internally+threaded+barrels

You can put a suppressor on a non nagant revolver. It's dampens the muzzle blast. Yes there is still noise from the cylinder gap. But it still reduces the noise.

DARKSHADOW
11-27-2012, 06:09
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=internally+threaded+barrels

You can put a suppressor on a non nagant revolver. It's dampens the muzzle blast. Yes there is still noise from the cylinder gap. But it still reduces the noise.

Thanks for the link. :wavey:

But, I would like to see an internally threaded revolver in either a 38 special or 357 magnum. (like the one in the pic's)
Most of the internally threaded barrels seem to be heavy with enough material for the bore of the barrel & suppressor to line up, and still have enogh material to thread.

To thread the inside of a typical revolver barrel and still be able to line up the bore of the suppressor and barrel, and still be able to fire a full sized bullet chambered correctly for that barrel. You would think the material left would be paper thin. Again I'm not talking about a bull or oversized barrel, I'm talking about the revolver in the pic's I posted.
:dunno:

ETA: They did show him loading the gun before installing the suppressor, and they were either 38 special, or 357 mag.

gwalchmai
11-27-2012, 06:30
Thanks for the link. :wavey:

But, I would like to see an internally threaded revolver in either a 38 special or 357 magnum. (like the one in the pic's)
Most of the internally threaded barrels seem to be heavy with enough material for the bore of the barrel & suppressor to line up, and still have enogh material to thread.

To thread the inside of a typical revolver barrel and still be able to line up the bore of the suppressor and barrel, and still be able to fire a full sized bullet chambered correctly for that barrel. You would think the material left would be paper thin. Again I'm not talking about a bull or oversized barrel, I'm talking about the revolver in the pic's I posted.
:dunno:

ETA: They did show him loading the gun before installing the suppressor, and they were either 38 special, or 357 mag.You can see the bullets in the chambers in the lower pic. I don't think the barrel thickness would be an issue. If you made the threads half the thickness of the barrel it should be fine. The pressure shouldn't be all that high at that point. Besides, the threaded barrel will replace any material removed once it's screwed in.

Sam Spade
11-27-2012, 07:32
Agarralo Como Puedas - Cantar en la ducha - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KS2Th_qeBb4)

What revolver has a cylinder that swings to the right?

Bren
11-27-2012, 08:11
From RED. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1245526/

Is it just me, or wouldn't the front sight sticking up get in the way of the scope, since the scope doesn't appear to be mounted above the front sight?

You can see the front sight, but it still works.

Bren
11-27-2012, 08:13
Thanks for the link. :wavey:

But, I would like to see an internally threaded revolver in either a 38 special or 357 magnum. (like the one in the pic's)
Most of the internally threaded barrels seem to be heavy with enough material for the bore of the barrel & suppressor to line up, and still have enogh material to thread.

To thread the inside of a typical revolver barrel and still be able to line up the bore of the suppressor and barrel, and still be able to fire a full sized bullet chambered correctly for that barrel. You would think the material left would be paper thin. Again I'm not talking about a bull or oversized barrel, I'm talking about the revolver in the pic's I posted.
:dunno:

ETA: They did show him loading the gun before installing the suppressor, and they were either 38 special, or 357 mag.


Been shooting revolvers for a long time - most of mine have MUCH thicker barrels than most of my autos, given that revolver barrels don't have to move. I take it you don't own many revolvers?

Mushinto
11-27-2012, 09:56
What revolver has a cylinder that swings to the right?

Good catch. I never noticed that before. Charter Arms DID make such a revolver, but not then.

FL Airedale
11-27-2012, 11:02
I liked the suppressors on the man from U.N.C.L.E. They were the size of a roll of Lifesavers and reduced the sound to a soft pffft.

janice6
11-27-2012, 11:08
What revolver has a cylinder that swings to the right?


I bought my lefty daughter a Charter Arms J frame .38 Special with a cylinder that swings to the right. Replaced her 642. She is quite fast and accurate with it.

Dennis in MA
11-27-2012, 11:33
At least one of the bad cops in "Magnum Force" slipped a suppressor onto his Python. I always thought that was pretty funny.

Worst was he BEAT it on and off (stop snickering) of that fine piece of CT Machinery. It was like the gun shot HIM in the past as he hammered the thing on and off the gun with his gloved hand.

What revolver has a cylinder that swings to the right?

I bought my lefty daughter a Charter Arms J frame .38 Special with a cylinder that swings to the right. Replaced her 642. She is quite fast and accurate with it.

Didn't Freedom Arms make them as well? Or do they just do the opposite-side loading gate thingy?

cgwahl
11-27-2012, 12:16
What revolver has a cylinder that swings to the right?


The video was probably rotated to get around the video checker on youtube.

fnfalman
11-27-2012, 12:23
There were revolvers modified to have gas sealed cylinders and take silencers.

Just because the mass doesn't know it, doesn't mean that nobody had thought about it and have made it. So, no the TV/movie isn't wrong in this case.

ilgunguygt
11-27-2012, 12:26
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=internally+threaded+barrels

You can put a suppressor on a non nagant revolver. It's dampens the muzzle blast. Yes there is still noise from the cylinder gap. But it still reduces the noise.
The nagant has a gas sealing system that prevents it from having a barrel/cylinder gap, at least with the proper ammo. If it werent for the lack of gap it would be no more apt to be suppressed than any other revolver.

Dennis in MA
11-27-2012, 12:34
No. The focal point of the scope isn't the front sight base, it is "beyond" the front sight base. So, the front sight base doesn't show up on higher magnifications. On lower magnification, it shows up as a little black blob on the lower part of the view.

http://maxicon.com/guns/optics/cmmg_leup_pr_fsb_3x-2-a.jpg

You know, if you scroll past that pic really fast, it looks like you're aiming at someone's plumber's crack. LOL

Jack23
11-27-2012, 13:28
Some of the most prominent fiction writers also need to brush up on there gun savvy if they are going to write about them in their books. On more than one occasion James Patterson has written a scene where someone "Clicked the safety off their Glock". No excuse for that kind of carelessness.

arclight610
11-27-2012, 13:39
Some of the most prominent fiction writers also need to brush up on there gun savvy if they are going to write about them in their books. On more than one occasion James Patterson has written a scene where someone "Clicked the safety off their Glock". No excuse for that kind of carelessness.

http://www.tarnhelm.com/gifs/GlockSafetyLg.jpg

:whistling:

Foxtrotx1
11-27-2012, 14:25
The nagant has a gas sealing system that prevents it from having a barrel/cylinder gap, at least with the proper ammo. If it werent for the lack of gap it would be no more apt to be suppressed than any other revolver.

I'm well aware. I was referring to NON nagant revolvers.