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gwalchmai
11-25-2012, 19:03
Is it possible to get fingerprints from shell casings found at a crime scene or are they usually burned off?

This is just idle curiosity, btw... :supergrin:

stolenphot0
11-25-2012, 19:04
I load all my magazines wearing gloves.

HollowHead
11-25-2012, 19:05
If tv is to be believed, the heat of firing makes them even easier to see. HH

Patchman
11-25-2012, 19:08
To be safe, you know the beggers who hold open doors at a bank or some place? I ask them to load my mags. I usually give them $5 for each mag.

Scott3670
11-25-2012, 19:08
Yes, fingerprints can be recovered from fired casings, and it's fairly common to recover prints that can be identified. And fwiw, I spent 15 years working in a crime lab, so I hope that lends credibility to my comment.

Detectorist
11-25-2012, 19:10
Fingerprints are found on shell casings all the time.

Detectorist
11-25-2012, 19:11
Yes, fingerprints can be recovered from fired casings, and it's fairly common to recover prints that can be identified. And fwiw, I spent 15 years working in a crime lab, so I hope that lends credibility to my comment.

It sure does. However, I've spent 15 years watching crime dramas on TV. lol

Patchman
11-25-2012, 19:12
Yes, fingerprints can be recovered from fired casings, and it's fairly common to recover prints that can be identified. And fwiw, I spent 15 years working in a crime lab, so I hope that lends credibility to my comment.

Then it was definitely $30 to $40 well spent so far. :whistling:

HollowHead
11-25-2012, 19:12
This is exactly why you should only own revolvers. HH

Averageman
11-25-2012, 19:15
Is it possible to get fingerprints from shell casings found at a crime scene or are they usually burned off?

This is just idle curiosity, btw... :supergrin:
Time to pack those bags and get to the airport?

Scott3670
11-25-2012, 19:18
It sure does. However, I've spent 15 years watching crime dramas on TV. lol

:rofl::rofl:

scratchy wilson
11-25-2012, 19:35
Is it possible to get fingerprints from shell casings found at a crime scene or are they usually burned off?

This is just idle curiosity, btw... :supergrin:





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Averageman
11-25-2012, 19:37
The oils on your fingerprints get on the shell casing they stay there until you fire and then they almost get burnt in to the casing when the bullet is fired.
When we used brass and steel shell casings for Tank Cannons, if you let the casing set out in the elements you could actually see the very clear handprints on it after a couple of days.

jdavionic
11-25-2012, 19:40
Is it possible to get fingerprints from shell casings found at a crime scene or are they usually burned off?

This is just idle curiosity, btw... :supergrin:

Dang it...you seemed like a good guy. Now you're going to go away for many years. Do they have internet access in prison?

Bruce M
11-25-2012, 19:44
Time to pack those bags and get to the airport?
:rofl::rofl:

Patchman
11-25-2012, 19:49
The oils on your fingerprints get on the shell casing they stay there until you fire and then they almost get burnt in to the casing when the bullet is fired.
When we used brass and steel shell casings for Tank Cannons, if you let the casing set out in the elements you could actually see the very clear handprints on it after a couple of days.

Yeah, but 155 mm tank cannon shells (or whatever) are wimpy compared with 10 mm handgun ammo. :whistling:

noway
11-25-2012, 19:56
Their's a guy in UK that has perfect the recovery of fingerprints on casings. If you don't want to get caught

1: load the cases with gloves
2: use a revolver and dispose of your empties
3: or just don't commit any crimes.

TK-421
11-25-2012, 20:15
Just hang a bag on your slide, so that it picks up the shell casings for you. Criminals are known to use socks. If you don't want to be considered ghetto, use one of these.

Akuna Brass Catcher II - YouTube

fireguy129
11-25-2012, 20:19
will that work if I hold my gat sideways yo?

noway
11-25-2012, 20:25
http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2008/jun/03/fingerprints.bullets

And the Dr name is Bond :)

itisbruno
11-25-2012, 20:58
Yes, fingerprints can be recovered from fired casings, and it's fairly common to recover prints that can be identified. And fwiw, I spent 15 years working in a crime lab, so I hope that lends credibility to my comment.


http://ncis-la.maxupdates.tv/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/Abby-Sciuto-b.jpg

samurairabbi
11-25-2012, 21:08
Just hang a bag on your slide, so that it picks up the shell casings for you. Criminals are known to use socks. If you don't want to be considered ghetto, use one of these.

Akuna Brass Catcher II - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fa2CLPjkKGg)

Does this remind anyone else here of a really sloppy condom?

Foxtrotx1
11-25-2012, 21:11
Well if you place the pistol inside a bag it will catch powder and casings.

The powder is important because it masks the distance the shooting occurred at.

ClydeG19
11-25-2012, 21:16
If you've absolutely, positively have to take someone out...use a revolver or gloves while loading your mag.:whistling:

TK-421
11-25-2012, 21:42
Well if you place the pistol inside a bag it will catch powder and casings.

The powder is important because it masks the distance the shooting occurred at.

What does it take to get burnt powder off the skin? Does it come off with regular soap and water? Or would they still be able to detect gunshot residue even after you washed your hands?

Mushinto
11-25-2012, 22:20
What does it take to get burnt powder off the skin? Does it come off with regular soap and water? Or would they still be able to detect gunshot residue even after you washed your hands?

No worries, Cold water will do it. :whistling:

CAcop
11-25-2012, 22:49
Just hang a bag on your slide, so that it picks up the shell casings for you. Criminals are known to use socks. If you don't want to be considered ghetto, use one of these.

Akuna Brass Catcher II - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fa2CLPjkKGg)

That reminds me of a Hell's Angel that was contacted by a Livermore police officer outside a bowling alley in a truck. There were a couple of Mongols inside. The HA had a Mac-10 with suppressor and brass catcher in his truck. He never gave an answer for why he didn't shoot the cop.

Angry Fist
11-25-2012, 22:52
When do we get a link to your, uh... shennanigans? :whistling:

gwalchmai
11-26-2012, 04:31
It's just idle curiosity is why.

If I was doing something I'd pick up some of the local cops' .45 ACP brass from the range (they have great once-fired Speer stuff), and handload 230gr Gold Dots in a .45 Colt revo, then spread the cops' brass around the scene.

Quincy and Sam would probably figure that out, though.

Foxtrotx1
11-26-2012, 06:42
What does it take to get burnt powder off the skin? Does it come off with regular soap and water? Or would they still be able to detect gunshot residue even after you washed your hands?

Talking about powder burns on the victim.