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9mmmountaineer
11-25-2012, 22:29
Looking to buy a Troy front sight, and magpul rear MBUS just bc it's what I came up with in my mind as a good combo.

Any reason not to do so, also I'm having a hard time figuring whether to buy folding front sight or stationary.

Any advice is appreciated, also recently purchased primary arms micro dot and I plan to co witness with my BUIS, can y'all help steer me in the right direction


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faawrenchbndr
11-25-2012, 22:42
I prefer Troy sights over all others.
The combo you have in mind should work as well.

Cole125
11-25-2012, 22:44
That combo would work, but you would be better off spending the extra $50 and getting a Troy rear sight.

A folding front sight is better than a fixed, gives you the choice to shoot with or without irons in the picture when using the red dot.

nipperwolf
11-26-2012, 05:02
That combo would work, but you would be better off spending the extra $50 and getting a Troy rear sight.

Agreed.

A folding front sight is better than a fixed

And a metal sight is stronger than a plastic one.

cowboy1964
11-26-2012, 07:41
I prefer a fixed A2 front sight, even with the EoTech. If the red dot goes down you instantly have a backup sight without having to futz around. Also you can instantly tell that your red dot still has good alignment because it will be right on top of the front post if your head is in the normal position.

But Troy's front and rear would be nice.

mjkeat
11-26-2012, 08:48
Why the mixing of manufacturers w/ the back-ups?

Big Bird
11-26-2012, 09:00
I prefer fixed BUIS. They don't interfere with the sight picture with a lower 1/3 cowitness. But if you really need to use your BUIS you need them NOW not after taking a few seconds to put them up. I can close 25 yards in the time it takes most of you to flip up a pair of sights.

My go to sights at a Troy fixed A4 front and a Larue BUIS on the back. Its about as bombproof a setup as you can get. The Daniel Defense 1.5 fixed set is also very good. You can have the DD set for $120--about what you'd pay for a Troy rear. My setup runs about $150.

M&P15T
11-26-2012, 09:09
I have Troys on my AR, they are very beautifully made, high quality.

As most will say, having folding BUISs gives you more options, let's you decide if you want to co-witness, lower 1/3rd, or fold them out of the way.

More options is always better.

MrMurphy
11-26-2012, 09:13
By preference, I run a fixed front and folding rear. Currently have a fixed rear because I don't argue with free.

Since my normal arrangement is an Aimpoint and fixed front, neither is likely to fail, but if the Aimpoint for some weird reason does die, the front sight is just 'there' and you can at worst, center the bad guy in the tube and fire, or use the Aimpoint as a giant rear sight and still get hits until you flip up the rear.

Other prefer fixed front/rear for instant backup in case of failure (Larry Vickers being known for this). I'm not going to tell an ex Delta guy what to do, but even Delta guys argue about that one.

I'm ok with folding fronts for some purposes, especially if you're using a variable power scope since there won't be any instant transition there.

It's a personal thing.

mjkeat
11-26-2012, 09:42
Maybe I'm wrong but the BUIS do not dictate the type of cowitness. That's done w/ the optic's mount.

M&P15T
11-26-2012, 11:28
Maybe I'm wrong but the BUIS do not dictate the type of cowitness. That's done w/ the optic's mount.

Correct.

My point was that BUISs that flip up/down give you options.

9mmmountaineer
11-26-2012, 11:29
Why the mixing of manufacturers w/ the back-ups?

Simply bc I'm cheap and the only rear iron sight I have experience with in the MBUS. Mine came as a flat Top and I've been using cheap optics and want to step up in the world.

I guess I'll go ahead and get the troy front sight... and depending if i can find a deal on the rear too. The only reason I'm not going full MBUS is bc i am going to try it On my m&p OR gas block. I wouldn't want melted sights.

I'm getting them as a Christmas present from the 'ol lady and wanted to get a combo she could afford, where did you get your Combo for $120?



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9mmmountaineer
11-26-2012, 11:57
I have Troys on my AR, they are very beautifully made, high quality.

As most will say, having folding BUISs gives you more options, let's you decide if you want to co-witness, lower 1/3rd, or fold them out of the way.

More options is always better.

I think this is why I have to go with folding sights


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M&P15T
11-26-2012, 12:32
I think this is why I have to go with folding sights


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It's Cyber Monday, there is a link here to some deals. There are some folding BUIS deals to be had in it.

Good luck finding what you want at the right price.

mvician
11-26-2012, 13:14
And a metal sight is stronger than a plastic one.



Not really.

9mmmountaineer
11-26-2012, 16:43
It's Cyber Monday, there is a link here to some deals. There are some folding BUIS deals to be had in it.

Good luck finding what you want at the right price.

Where is the link?


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nipperwolf
11-26-2012, 17:22
Where is the link?


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http://campaign.r20.constantcontact.com/render?llr=c46lnihab&v=001kSkfsfL4g8hb9Ota4BaCR0qqySyNGT2FTv0EZ5kUHPVzmeaNqZsP4UigKRlvq5dvlE9yOCzY7tNsBJFFIPBWawkAubQwG1e 7BYKwmjGQYQ0xO6UtQymdsA%3D%3D

YHM set for $129

9mmmountaineer
11-26-2012, 19:23
Seems like a good deal, anybody recommend YHM? I like their look and I watched nutnfancy's shot show review on the company, seem pretty cool family owned and all.


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nipperwolf
11-26-2012, 19:54
Seems like a good deal, anybody recommend YHM?

:upeyes:

Good luck.

Brian Brazier
11-26-2012, 20:37
I perfer A2 front sight with a Daniel Defense A1.5 fixed rear sight, I also like to run optics absolute co witness, but everyone is different.

Brian Brazier
11-26-2012, 20:52
And a metal sight is stronger than a plastic one.

Not true, in a drop test Magpuls faired better than Troy

boomhower
11-26-2012, 21:14
Not true, in a drop test Magpuls faired better than Troy

Hardly enough to draw any conclusions one. One MBUS staying closer to zero than one Troy is hardly a scientific conclusion. A sample of one proves nothing. MBUS's may very well hold up to drops better than Troy's, but neither you nor I have sufficient data to prove it either way.

Brian Brazier
11-26-2012, 21:20
http://kitup.military.com/2012/07/back-up-iron-sight-drop-test.html

mvician
11-26-2012, 21:23
it really wasn't a drop test......it was more like a swing it like an axe test. If you read it directly from

http://vuurwapenblog.com/2012/07/08/buisoptic-drop-test/

One thing I did not mention in the post which was sent to KitUp (due to word count limitations) was that after dropping the MBUS twice, I picked the rifle up, held it over my head like the maul I used to split seasons' worth of firewood while growing up in Alaska, and swung it down on a concrete shooting table, with the MBUS taking all of the impact. It did not break or shift POI by anything more than 1MOA.

:cool:

Brian Brazier
11-26-2012, 21:48
it really wasn't a drop test......it was more like a swing it like an axe test. If you read it directly from

http://vuurwapenblog.com/2012/07/08/buisoptic-drop-test/



:cool:

I never saw that part, dont think the Troys or any other metal folding sight could take that abuse. I have nothing against Troys, I have one, it is definatley the most tacticool of all the folding rear sights, but they can fail, my previous one fail, I know stick had one fail, but any sight can.

20South
11-26-2012, 22:22
Simply bc I'm cheap and the only rear iron sight I have experience with in the MBUS. Mine came as a flat Top and I've been using cheap optics and want to step up in the world.

I guess I'll go ahead and get the troy front sight... and depending if i can find a deal on the rear too. The only reason I'm not going full MBUS is bc i am going to try it On my m&p OR gas block. I wouldn't want melted sights.

I'm getting them as a Christmas present from the 'ol lady and wanted to get a combo she could afford, where did you get your Combo for $120?



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Primary Arms had the Troy folding rear for 79.99. Not sure if the deal is still going.

SCSU74
11-26-2012, 23:44
Simply bc I'm cheap and the only rear iron sight I have experience with in the MBUS. Mine came as a flat Top and I've been using cheap optics and want to step up in the world.

I guess I'll go ahead and get the troy front sight... and depending if i can find a deal on the rear too. The only reason I'm not going full MBUS is bc i am going to try it On my m&p OR gas block. I wouldn't want melted sights.

I'm getting them as a Christmas present from the 'ol lady and wanted to get a combo she could afford, where did you get your Combo for $120?



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You could save some money going with a DD fixed front and folding rear of your choice. DD makes a great product and it works awesome with an x300 in front of it


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Brian Brazier
11-27-2012, 00:00
Primary arms sale on Troys is over, I agree with SCSU74 the DD fixed fron is a great way to go.

9mmmountaineer
11-27-2012, 06:18
I was going to get the Troy deal bc they offered the front sight for 79.99 also but they were out of stock when I checked


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