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xkon
11-27-2012, 15:09
Going to start reloading for the 454 casull. Wondering which projectiles, weight and brand, you guys use for this. Going to be using for range use but will be loading to near max loadings. Trying to look for the best bargain on them.


Also, does anyone load the 454 on the dillon square deal b press using the 45 colt dies?

Hoser
11-27-2012, 15:59
I have shot a bunch of 454 over the years.

The most unpleasant bullet weight to shoot was the 260s loaded around max. Just horrible recoil.

I got excellent accuracy out of the Hornady 300 gn XTP. The Sierra 300 soft point was right behind.

I finally settled on cast 378gn gas checked linotype. Nice soft recoil and accurate as can be inside 100 yards.

Win 296 and Vhit N110 were the powders for top end loads.

Luckily I ordered a 45 ACP Cylinder from Freedom Arms so when the flinch starts I can shoot some 45 ACP to chill out.

I load mine on a 550 and 1050 with 454 dies.

xkon
11-27-2012, 20:27
Where did you end up buying your bullets from?

JBnTX
11-27-2012, 22:17
I shoot the Hornady 300 grain XTP for the hotter loads, and for the wimpy stuff I use Missouri Bullets 300 Grain TCFP.

SDGlock23
11-28-2012, 08:19
I've used the 300gr Speer Deepcurl bullets with good results using H110. For midrange loads 2400 had done very well.

24gr 2400 will shoot a 250gr XTP @ 1400 fps, which is just about right since that bullet isn't designed to be driven super fast. 24gr 2400 also shoots a Beartooth 280gr WFNGC @ 1360 fps, which recoils pretty easy, yet will kill just about anything. That's what I love about the .454/.45 Colt, you don't have to load them extreme to have something effective.

I have a lot of the Missouri 300gr TCFP bullets but haven't messed with them much yet in .454, but I've loaded some kinda warm in .45 Colt. Seems like a good bullet and inexpensive as well.

fredj338
11-28-2012, 10:03
After decades of shooting big bores, I just have no use for a jacketed bullet for anything. The 454 was made to run heavy bullets fast. For me, 285gr & up. Go mild 1000fps for plinking & run them to 1500 for serious work. I loaded mine on a 550B, the SDB should handle it & you can use 45colt dies.

xkon
11-28-2012, 14:30
After decades of shooting big bores, I just have no use for a jacketed bullet for anything. The 454 was made to run heavy bullets fast. For me, 285gr & up. Go mild 1000fps for plinking & run them to 1500 for serious work. I loaded mine on a 550B, the SDB should handle it & you can use 45colt dies.

The issue with the SDB is the overall length because there is less room than the 550B. So I was told by Dillon that the 255gr bullets would be fine but anything heavier might be too long to fit before seating. I might have to end up getting a single stage press just for the 454

Colorado4Wheel
11-28-2012, 15:24
Sounds like a really good reason to trade up to a 550 rather then get a SS.

fredj338
11-28-2012, 18:13
The issue with the SDB is the overall length because there is less room than the 550B. So I was told by Dillon that the 255gr bullets would be fine but anything heavier might be too long to fit before seating. I might have to end up getting a single stage press just for the 454

No, it would still work, you would just have to feed the bullet up into the die before seating. PITA, but should still work.:dunno:

GIockGuy24
11-29-2012, 09:31
The rifling is much faster in my Casull than in the 45 Colt Blackhawk. I can tell just from running a bore brush down the barrels. I've great good results with 360 grain cast bullets. In jacketed bullets the high velocity rated Hornady 300 grain XTP's work well. Hornady now makes a low velocity version also. The 1300 - 1700 fps version is the original. Freedom Arms says not to use 45 Colt dies but they usually work alright. The chambers in the Casull do seem tighter in diameter than in the Ruger though. Back in the 1980's a 50 round box of ammo was $45 and a 50 round box of new brass was $22. The factory loaded powder is Accurate #9. W-296 and H-110 work extremely well too. My Casull included load data for different powders but only with Freedom Arms-made bullets, which were the only ones designed for the Casull velocities at the time.