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PzGren
11-27-2012, 22:36
A few years ago I had bought an old Anschütz full stocked .22 l.r. rifle that was in excellent condition. I fell in love with it right away and research showed that it was manufactured before 1958. Over the last years, I have bought several earlier Anschütz 1422s and one 1420.

I really enjoy the 54 action and find them great shooters. I had been looking for another full stocked 1423 for years and have only recently been rewarded; I found a very early 1423!

It is in used but decent condition and will become my shooter.

http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z159/Andyd173/14232nd.jpg

And some of the other ones

http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z159/Andyd173/Exportrifles.jpg

vafish
11-28-2012, 06:43
I have 4 anschutz rifles, but they are the target rifles.

From what I have read anschutz accuracy requirements to leave the factory are the same for their target and field rifles.

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country85
11-28-2012, 08:18
I think I'm in love! lol That 1423 is a beautiful gun. Really like the double set triggers. Just out of curiosity, What would one expect to pay for a rifle of that quality? I know the target models are up there, but never have seen a field model for sale personally.

PzGren
11-28-2012, 08:58
I think I'm in love! lol That 1423 is a beautiful gun. Really like the double set triggers. Just out of curiosity, What would one expect to pay for a rifle of that quality? I know the target models are up there, but never have seen a field model for sale personally.

Country85,

the 1423s are extremely rare, the 1418 with the 64 action is much more frequent but will still bring a premium over a regular rifle.

54 sporters start at $650 and go usually up to $1,000, maybe $1,200 for excellent rifles with the regular trigger. The DST, Deutscher Stecher is rare and boosts the price.

I have never seen a 1423 for sale in the U.S. and the only way to go is to buy it in Europe and go through lenghty and costly export and import procedures. Importing guns from Germany is not cheaper than buying them domestically, it just allows access to rare models, like the 1423.

I would estimate reasonable value for the lower 1423 in the photo at $1,400 without the scope but would never sell it for that amount. This one will actually be given to my oldest son next spring as a present for his MCAT results. Once he is a doctor, he will not need handouts from me, I guess.

http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z159/Andyd173/DSCF4572.jpg

As for the "new" one, it shows more wear and does not have the original buttplate and has some German scope mount permanently attached to it, that would lessen collectors value here. However, that mount costs about $600 and serves my purpose in an excellent way - I love period appropriate scopes and bases and will use those rings to mount a Hensoldt 4x32 Diasta that I have somewhere among my stash.

Bill Keith
11-29-2012, 13:13
I'm jealous! Fine looking stable of guns. I have had a 1958 Savage-Anschutz model 64 for many years and have a Leupold vari-x II in 3-7X on it. It is my #1 squirrel rifle! I would like to have a Mannlicher stocked one but never have run across one. Few years back, did purchase a new CZ452 FS and am very happy with that gun. Use it with the iron sights, and the Mannlicher stock is great on it.:wavey:

RJ's Guns
11-29-2012, 17:55
I have been looking for a 1423, for years, with no luck. I have a 1418, but I much prefer the 54 action to the 64 action. I thought that the 1423 had a model 54 action, I have never heard of a 53 action, so I have no frame of reference.
RJ

PzGren
11-29-2012, 21:08
I have been looking for a 1423, for years, with no luck. I have a 1418, but I much prefer the 54 action to the 64 action. I thought that the 1423 had a model 54 action, I have never heard of a 53 action, so I have no frame of reference.
RJ

I edited the post for the typo; it is a 54 action. I also agree with the superiority of the 54 action over the 64 action. The 54 has a nicer trigger and locking lugs but both have the same quality barrel.

bac1023
11-29-2012, 22:50
Very nice Andy

They're beautiful rifles. :cool:

Bow Commander
11-30-2012, 00:30
The 54 action is the ****. :dancingbanana:

PzGren
11-30-2012, 05:29
Thanks Brian and BowCommander.

I have had a closer look at the mounts. I have changed the scope and am using a Hensoldt now that I had. Those mounts are known as the SEM, Suhler Einhakmontage. The 2008 list price at Frankonia, the biggest German gundealer is €879, or US$ 1,143!

It is a very nice quick detachable mount but I am glad that I did not have to pay that much for it.

http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z159/Andyd173/DSCF7173.jpg

http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z159/Andyd173/DSCF7174.jpg

http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z159/Andyd173/DSCF7175.jpg

HexHead
11-30-2012, 06:30
What's the deal with the double triggers on a bolt action rifle?

PzGren
11-30-2012, 07:12
What's the deal with the double triggers on a bolt action rifle?

Hexhead,

it is a set- trigger. This one is called DST, or Deutscher Stecher. When the rear trigger is pulled, it reduces pull of the front trigger down to a few ounces. If not activated, the front trigger has a normal trigger resistance.

HexHead
11-30-2012, 07:18
Thanks. Very cool. And that Mannlicher stock find is a beautiful rifle.

PzGren
11-30-2012, 10:22
Thanks. Very cool. And that Mannlicher stock find is a beautiful rifle.

Thanks again, Hexhead. I am very glad that I found it - and believe me I have been looking for one!

PzGren
12-03-2012, 08:11
I got most of the rough work done, I have sighted in the scope with the help of the see-through mounts and will have to do only fine-adjustments now. At least I will be on the paper:whistling:.

The stock will need some more care but so far I am very pleased with this rifle and cannot wait to shoot it next week end! I might also rust blue the bolt handle, which is a little pale.

http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z159/Andyd173/DSCF7177.jpg

http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z159/Andyd173/DSCF7183.jpg

RJ's Guns
12-03-2012, 13:04
I might also rust blue the bolt handle, which is a little pale.

http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z159/Andyd173/DSCF7177.jpg

http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z159/Andyd173/DSCF7183.jpg


I have reason to believe that if you "rust blue the bolt handle," you will substantially decrease the resale value of the rifle. But I may be wrong.

RJ

PzGren
12-03-2012, 13:38
I have no intention at all to sell it. I am now giving three 54 sporters and a KKJ to my kids.

Resale value? I want to enjoy the gun shooting it, not putting it in a display cabinet.

bac1023
12-09-2012, 13:14
That looks great, Andy :thumbsup:

HAMMERHEAD
12-09-2012, 13:43
Really a nice, nice gun. Love the Euro style stock and the scope mount. That is first class stuff.
Congrats

HAMMERHEAD
12-09-2012, 13:47
PS, is that a multi leaf rear sight?

jarubla
12-09-2012, 17:23
Those are some beauty rifles! Well done on a hard earned collection.

I am huge fan of the Mannlicher stock, though the Steyr is a bit $ for my budget. I have had a beady eye on a Ruger 10/22 Talo International for a while. I know, I know, it will not hold a candle to one of these precise German beauties.

BTW...with lovely examples like these my mind also goes to another German standard of excellence. You don't happen to have a Korth or two lurking in your collection, do you? ;) :cool:

-Jay

PzGren
12-09-2012, 23:34
Those are some beauty rifles! Well done on a hard earned collection.

I am huge fan of the Mannlicher stock, though the Steyr is a bit $ for my budget. I have had a beady eye on a Ruger 10/22 Talo International for a while. I know, I know, it will not hold a candle to one of these precise German beauties.

BTW...with lovely examples like these my mind also goes to another German standard of excellence. You don't happen to have a Korth or two lurking in your collection, do you? ;) :cool:

-Jay

Thanks for the compliment. Of course, I do have a Korth made in 1969 under the watchful eye of old Willi Korth himself. I even visited their old shop in Ratzeburg, Germany, and chatted with the master gunsmith.

http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z159/Andyd173/DSCF4995.jpg

PzGren
12-09-2012, 23:36
PS, is that a multi leaf rear sight?

Thanks Hammerhead,

yes, that is the multileaf rear sight. The sporters also came with other rear sights but the folding leaf is the most common that I encountered. They are also used on the early 1415/1416.

PzGren
12-09-2012, 23:37
That looks great, Andy :thumbsup:

Thanks Brian,

I really love the rifle. It is an eye-candy and has the perfect balance for me.

bac1023
12-11-2012, 21:43
Thanks for the compliment. Of course, I do have a Korth made in 1969 under the watchful eye of old Willi Korth himself. I even visited their old shop in Ratzeburg, Germany, and chatted with the master gunsmith.

http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z159/Andyd173/DSCF4995.jpg

I always enjoy seeing that pic, Andy. :cool:

PzGren
12-11-2012, 22:12
I always enjoy seeing that pic, Andy. :cool:

...and now you know what I "stole" it for.

bac1023
12-11-2012, 22:24
Yeah, that was amazing. :)