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WiskyT
11-28-2012, 16:33
A parcel was at my door when I came home today. In it were two palstic bags containing 36# of once fired brass. One bag is mostly 9 and 40, the other entirely 45 ACP Speer with LPP.

I guess I'm going to have to buy a mold and dies for 45ACP, no more excuses. My Springfield Armory 1911 that has been sitting unfired since 1993 is finally going to have to start earning it's keep.

I'm going with a Lee 3 die set, the primer parts to convert my Pro1000 to LPP, and I'm undecided between a 230TC or 230RN 6 banger from Lee. I'll go with the TL design. I'm so cheap I'm debating getting a Lee sizer. Do you think they'll need to be sized?

I already have the shellplate because I bought one years ago thinking I would reload 30-06 on the 1000 using it as a single stage.

DoctaGlockta
11-28-2012, 17:01
Boy you think you know a guy.

You don't reload 45acp :dunno:

You will be using the Wonder Powder ya?

WiskyT
11-28-2012, 17:05
Boy you think you know a guy.

You don't reload 45acp :dunno:

I need another caliber to reload like a whole in the head. But, free brass is free brass. I took an oath as a CRB and I have to honor it.

norton
11-28-2012, 17:06
When you said fun bags, I was thinking about something else:whistling:

I am going to try a Lee 6 cavity. Asking for one for Christmas, probably in .358 105 grain swc.
I end up sizing all of my Lee mold thrown bullets. I use the Lee sizer kit.

WiskyT
11-28-2012, 17:11
You'll like the six cavity. It's much nicer and 3 times faster than the two banger.

wdphillips
11-28-2012, 18:31
Wisky...

Did you ever do the 30-06 on the Pro 1000? I was thinking along the same lines. .45acp #2 shell plate?

WiskyT
11-28-2012, 18:41
Wisky...

Did you ever do the 30-06 on the Pro 1000? I was thinking along the same lines. .45acp #2 shell plate?

No, I never did it. But I don't see how it can't work as long as you take the indexing rod out and manually index it when the carrier is nearly all the way down. If that won't do it, you could just keep the shell in place and rotate the toolhead, or you could just use it as a single stage.

At the time, I was using a Lee hand press for '06 since I had a small bench with no room for a SS press in addition to my 1000. I just got by with the hand press since I only shoot 50 rounds every couple of years. Now I have a bigger bench with an RCBS partner mounted for small jobs.

When I get the 1000 set up for 45ACP, I might burn off a box of '06 just to try out the 1000 as a bastardized turret job with the rifle rounds. It should even seat primers if my guess is correct.

I don't remember the shell plate number, but I think it's #2. 45ACP, '06, 308 and a few others use the same plate.

SARDG
11-28-2012, 20:41
When you said fun bags, I was thinking about something else:whistling:
Me too... :cool:

labdwakin
11-30-2012, 14:23
I have used both of those boolits in TL and liked the TC style better. The Lee LRN design actually has a shoulder on it between the driving bands and the beginning of the ogive of the boolit. The TC design was easier to get good fill-out in the mould for me. If I were in your shoes, I'd use the truncated cone.

fredj338
11-30-2012, 15:11
Not a TL guy, but the std 228grRN 2 groove is a very good bullet design & you can still tumble lube them. if you hate loading the 45acp, just send the brass to me, I'll pay shipping.:supergrin:

WiskyT
11-30-2012, 18:18
I picked up my order of 5,000 WLP and 2x100 230grain XTP bullets . So I've got the gun, powder, brass, primers, press, JHP's, and now I just need to order the dies, mold, sizer and primer parts.

I think I'll go with the TC because it will mimic the XTP's. I'll get the sizer and hopefully not need it.

WiskyT
11-30-2012, 18:21
Me too... :cool:

Yes, I over-promise and under-deliver. It seems the more you disappoint people, the more successful you will be these days. Look for me to occupy the White House soon.

labdwakin
12-01-2012, 02:23
I picked up my order of 5,000 WLP and 2x100 230grain XTP bullets . So I've got the gun, powder, brass, primers, press, JHP's, and now I just need to order the dies, mold, sizer and primer parts.

I think I'll go with the TC because it will mimic the XTP's. I'll get the sizer and hopefully not need it.

I started out not using the sizer then decided what the heck since it was so simple to use and actually saw a difference in ease of loading just because there was more diameter uniformity. My experience has been that the Lee 6 cavity moulds can be finicky and kind of a pain to use with the big 45 boolits. I'd also suggest reading some threads about making them work better over on Castboolits.com.

WiskyT
12-01-2012, 08:05
I started out not using the sizer then decided what the heck since it was so simple to use and actually saw a difference in ease of loading just because there was more diameter uniformity. My experience has been that the Lee 6 cavity moulds can be finicky and kind of a pain to use with the big 45 boolits. I'd also suggest reading some threads about making them work better over on Castboolits.com.

With my 9mm 120 TC plain bullet, I don't size them. They chamber in everything I own at the 0.357" they fall at. They also are easily placed on the belled case. With my 158LRN TL, they sit on the belled case and chamber easily in my SW 66, but are a little tight in all of my Rugers. With my 180 TC plain 40SW bullet, I tried a few of them unsized the other day and they were tippy on the case mouth when seating and I had a couple that didn't go fully into battery in the Glock. So the 9's don't get sized, the 38's and 40's do.

I'll get the 45 sizer just so I have it. With shipping the way it is, if I need it later it will kill me to order one by itself since I seldom make orders anymore for other stuff. The question is, do I get 0.451", 0.452". or 0.454"?

labdwakin
12-01-2012, 18:07
. The question is, do I get 0.451", 0.452". or 0.454"?

I just use the 0.452"... that's the standard diameter for lead boolits in the 45 ACP.

WiskyT
12-01-2012, 18:48
I just use the 0.452"... that's the standard diameter for lead boolits in the 45 ACP.

That's probably what I'll do. But, in many guns, you can use a bigger bullet and 0.454 is only a teensy weensy bit bigger. A bigger bullet, as long as it chambers, is always better or equal to a smaller one.

labdwakin
12-02-2012, 00:33
That's probably what I'll do. But, in many guns, you can use a bigger bullet and 0.454 is only a teensy weensy bit bigger. A bigger bullet, as long as it chambers, is always better or equal to a smaller one.


This is true... but you'll probably have to beagle your mould to get it to drop boolits big enough for the sizer to have any impact. I've had two of these moulds now and both of them dropped at around .4525 or .452 on the nose.

WiskyT
12-02-2012, 07:04
This is true... but you'll probably have to beagle your mould to get it to drop boolits big enough for the sizer to have any impact. I've had two of these moulds now and both of them dropped at around .4525 or .452 on the nose.

Thanks. I'll get the 0.452" then. Hopefully I won't need it.