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Davegrave
12-02-2012, 10:25
I don't get it. I sunk. It's gone. We know why.
Why do people keep sinking money into the ocean to go "solve the mysteries"?
We don't need any more info for ship building purposes. We know what went wrong, we build ships differently now. There have been countless wrecks since that have been studied. We have radar and sonar to avoid impacts and lighter stronger materials.


I get that it was a unique story. I get that it captivated the world. But it was forever ago. None of these mysteries matter. It doesn't matter if two guys disagree over where the cracks started or where pieces broke off and fell in the ocean. It doesn't matter if some guy was having an affair on the voyage.

All these "researchers" just seem like the guys at the gunshop who have to fight over stupid minutia about which barrel is gonna get shot out faster or which gun helps you acquire your sight picture that fraction of a second sooner when the SHTF...
Just pig headed people wasting small fortunes to further their silly d-measuring contest.

I wish they'd argue about who could build a better water purifier for villages in third world countries instead of weather the bow of the ship was at 90 degrees or 87 degrees when it sank.

I'm almost done, I promise. But it's also hilarious to me that a bunch of countries agreed to "protect" the WRECKAGE from destructive exploration. We (humans) screwed up and sunk a monsterous ship full of things that have no natural place in the ocean and now we take steps to make sure those things stay there forever. God forbid we remove any of that mess little by little at least while we're down there anyway to "solve mysteries". We should do that on highways too.

tantrix
12-02-2012, 10:29
Agreed. But come on...you're talking about a country that made a movie (actually more than one) about 9/11, which was so lame I was actually embarrassed to hear of the 1st one.

If it will make money, we'll exploit it in a heartbeat.

bchandler
12-02-2012, 10:32
Because people who can afford it want to go on the pretenses of science, but really it's mostly just fun (Cameron et al). I don't think there's any research being done on the titanic using legitimate scientific funding to do useful things like research impact mechanics, etc.

HollowHead
12-02-2012, 10:34
While I agree about the "mystery" aspect of your post, I completely understand the fascination with the event and the wreck. The Titanic is the case study of Post-Victorian arrogance and folly. HH

bush pilot
12-02-2012, 10:35
Didn't Obama blame George Bush for the Titantic sinking?

RonS
12-02-2012, 10:36
1% genuine interest in the history.
50% greed,
49% look at me.

As far as the protection goes, I think it is about half and half "You don't desecrate graves" and "If someone wants to do it, we need to stop them because we can't have people doing stuff, who knows where that might lead."

FullClip
12-02-2012, 10:40
Yep, think it's time to move on from the Titantic, Emilla Erhart, Roswald, Elvis, and Bigfoot. Let's get up to date in our searches for the truth and find out about if our President was really born in the USA.

Davegrave
12-02-2012, 10:52
Lets not forget that every few years someone new decides to pick up the trail of Jack the Ripper. Thank god. He's been on the lam for far too long. Lets serve him up a hot plate of justice.

tantrix
12-02-2012, 10:55
Lets not forget that every few years someone new decides to pick up the trail of Jack the Ripper. Thank god. He's been on the lam for far too long. Lets serve him up a hot plate of justice.

:rofl:

Right after we interview Charlie Manson for the 200th time.

jakebrake
12-02-2012, 10:57
for the same reason we still here about who killed jfk.

FullClip
12-02-2012, 10:57
Lets not forget that every few years someone new decides to pick up the trail of Jack the Ripper. Thank god. He's been on the lam for far too long. Lets serve him up a hot plate of justice.


He's emigrated to Canada and has his own Home-Improvement / handy-Man Show on CBC. Hiding in plain sight deal....:whistling:

Mrs.Cicero
12-02-2012, 11:14
I don't care as long as it's not my money they are spending on it. I have other obsessions.

relayman
12-02-2012, 11:17
Yep, think it's time to move on from the Titantic, Emilla Erhart, Roswald, Elvis, and Bigfoot. Let's get up to date in our searches for the truth and find out about if our President was really born in the USA.
Some mysteries will remain unsoved . :supergrin:

TBO
12-02-2012, 11:19
It was the first False Flag in modern times...

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Annoyedgrunt
12-02-2012, 11:21
Yep, think it's time to move on from the Titantic, Emilla Erhart, Roswald, Elvis, and Bigfoot. Let's get up to date in our searches for the truth and find out about if our President was really born in the USA.

I must have missed this... is that when Lee Harvey Oswald assassinated the alien at area 51 with the magic bullet? :dunno:

TBO
12-02-2012, 14:51
Homeland security was involved in the coverup.

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Altaris
12-02-2012, 15:07
:rofl:

Right after we interview Charlie Manson for the 200th time.

I heard from someone somewhere that he is a total nutcase. I think we need to interview him again just to make sure. :supergrin:

Slug71
12-02-2012, 15:08
Ship design?

Glockgeezer
12-02-2012, 15:32
Because the liberals keep hoping for some other outcome. Like it will really make a difference. "It still sunk!" Get a life!

concretefuzzynuts
12-02-2012, 15:33
:rofl:

Right after we interview Charlie Manson for the 200th time.

Charles Manson's Epic Question - YouTube

Dragoon44
12-02-2012, 15:45
But it's also hilarious to me that a bunch of countries agreed to "protect" the WRECKAGE from destructive exploration.

I find it interesting that not once in your rant about "wreckage", "Monsterous ship" and "Mess". not once did you acknowledge that not only is it a shipwreck it is where 1,502 people lost their lives.

And THAT is one reason the site should remain undisturbed.

tous
12-02-2012, 15:51
In a never-ending, relentless search for the truth, the Hollywood hippie socialists will one day prove that George Bush sank the Titanic and Dick Cheney helped him.

Davegrave
12-02-2012, 15:55
I find it interesting that not once in your rant about "wreckage", "Monsterous ship" and "Mess". not once did you acknowledge that not only is it a shipwreck it is where 1,502 people lost their lives.

And THAT is one reason the site should remain undisturbed.

More people died in 9/11. We didn't just leave the heap there. :dunno:
We disturb all the non-white burial grounds we find in other less "civilized" countries.
The respect for the dead card doesn't apply or we wouldn't be rooting around down there constantly.

Dragoon44
12-02-2012, 16:07
More people died in 9/11. We didn't just leave the heap there. :dunno:
We disturb all the non-white burial grounds we find in other less "civilized" countries.
The respect for the dead card doesn't apply or we wouldn't be rooting around down there constantly.

Examining the wreckage to determine what actually happened and why is completely different from just looting the wreckage.

if the wreckage of 9/11 was 3.8 miles down at the bottom of the ocean the wreckage would still be there.

What technology exactly is it you believe that can remove the wreckage of a "monsterous ship" from 3.8 miles down in the ocean?

tantrix
12-02-2012, 16:13
More people died in 9/11. We didn't just leave the heap there. :dunno:
We disturb all the non-white burial grounds we find in other less "civilized" countries.
The respect for the dead card doesn't apply or we wouldn't be rooting around down there constantly.

I've mentioned this before in regards to Egypt. Americans will go dig those people up that have been at rest for 1,000+ years for no legitimate reason...just in the name of 'science' and because Egypt will let them.

Dragoon44
12-02-2012, 16:21
I've mentioned this before in regards to Egypt. Americans will go dig those people up that have been at rest for 1,000+ years for no legitimate reason...just in the name of 'science' and because Egypt will let them.

That is because those dead Egyptians from the pharaonic dynasty period of Egypt were not muslims. They don't let non muslims dig up dead muslims or even touch a dead muslim body.

Davegrave
12-02-2012, 16:28
Examining the wreckage to determine what actually happened and why is completely different from just looting the wreckage.

if the wreckage of 9/11 was 3.8 miles down at the bottom of the ocean the wreckage would still be there.

What technology exactly is it you believe that can remove the wreckage of a "monsterous ship" from 3.8 miles down in the ocean?

I know everything can't be brought back up. It just seems to me that the fatalities don't seem like a valid excuse for not allowing people to bring anything up.

That aspect was just a minor end note of my rant though. The people acting like they're curing AIDS or bringing about world peace by discovering some piece of the ballroom 1000 yards away on the ocean floor is my main pet peeve.

Dragoon44
12-02-2012, 16:32
That aspect was just a minor end note of my rant though. The people acting like they're curing AIDS or bringing about world peace by discovering some piece of the ballroom 1000 yards away on the ocean floor is my main pet peeve.

The way I look at it it's their money if they want to spend it and other peoples money willing to fund the expeditions then more power to them. But I would agree that the funds could be used more productively to help people in need.

But that has rarely ever been the priority with people with that kind of money to spend. (It costs millions of dollars to fund an expedition to the wreck.)

I get more peeved about the millions the govt. gives away to people to do stupid stuff like study the sex life of frogs, etc.

TBO
12-02-2012, 16:36
Amen.

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Davegrave
12-02-2012, 16:38
We certainly agree there!
And I agree it's their right. And good for them if that's what they're into. I wish I could indulge my interests as completely as they do.

Dragoon44
12-02-2012, 17:07
We certainly agree there!
And I agree it's their right. And good for them if that's what they're into. I wish I could indulge my interests as completely as they do.

Hey, apply for a grant to study why people investigate the Titanic!

:supergrin:

NeverMore1701
12-02-2012, 17:27
Why did I spend a thousand dollars on knives this month?


Because I enjoy them.

larry_minn
12-02-2012, 19:10
I have been to a couple Titanic exhibits. One the "goal" of the exhibit was for this kid to go down to titanic. (which he did) I guess to be youngest person to go down.

aplcr0331
12-02-2012, 19:32
Because it's easy and a lot of historians (not all) are intellectually lazy. One of the most famous events of the 20th century has so much scholarship written about it that it is an easy exercise in "research". Not all historians mind you, just a lot of them. They're not as bad as the social scientist are about research though. And.....perhaps a few people have some genuine interest in a boat as well.

tous
12-02-2012, 19:41
Hey, apply for a grant to study why people investigate the Titanic!

:supergrin:

I want a grant to study whether some feller on the ocean bottom one day, whilst bathed in green light, will utter the words, "I think there's a squatch in these woods."

Dragoon44
12-02-2012, 19:51
I want a grant to study whether some feller on the ocean bottom one day, whilst bathed in green light, will utter the words, "I think there's a squatch in these woods, because I hear what sounds like wood against wood"

Fixed it for ya.

:tongueout::supergrin::wavey:

TBO
12-04-2012, 15:49
http://cim-cim-images.cdn2.comcast.net/fc03img/Comcast_CIM_Prod_Fancast_Image/86/760/1335197282298_2x1_Overlay_640_320.jpg

Glock20 10mm
12-04-2012, 15:58
Probably because they are not sure how it sunk.














































humor...

GeorgiaGlocker
12-04-2012, 16:00
We had better study it while we can. Bob Ballard states that the Titanic will be practically gone in another 50 years due to the ocean enviroment that it lies in.

fnfalman
12-04-2012, 16:03
What about the Loch Ness monster?

TK-421
12-04-2012, 16:08
Because people who can afford it want to go on the pretenses of science, but really it's mostly just fun (Cameron et al). I don't think there's any research being done on the titanic using legitimate scientific funding to do useful things like research impact mechanics, etc.

Agreed. If I had the money to spare, or could find a way to get funding, I'd want to go too. It's fun, it's cool, it's really really deep and takes specialized equipment to do. And I just want to see what it looks like in person.

Apparently they're going to make a cruise ship called the Titanic II, that's supposed to be a fairly close replica of the original, I think it will be pretty cool. It'd at least let me get a good look at the whole thing as it was in it's heyday, instead of as it sits now on the ocean floor.

Now if only I could actually afford the prices they'll charge for the good, fancy, first class suites. :supergrin:

tous
12-04-2012, 17:15
What about the Loch Ness monster?

So, you're saying that the Loch Ness Monster needs a National Geographic Channel special on investigating the cause of the Titanic sinking from a mythical, fresh-water creature's perspective? :headscratch:

I smell Fedreral grant! :snoopy:

And, what if Bigfoot encounters the Loch Ness Monster and neither of them believe the other exists? Would that cause a temporal paradox? :headscratch:

Elliott
12-05-2012, 08:44
So, you're saying that the Loch Ness Monster needs a National Geographic Channel special on investigating the cause of the Titanic sinking from a mythical, fresh-water creature's perspective? :headscratch:

I smell Fedreral grant! :snoopy:

And, what if Bigfoot encounters the Loch Ness Monster and neither of them believe the other exists? Would that cause a temporal paradox? :headscratch:

I actually saw Bigfoot trying to get a picture of Obama’s birth certificate!

MrKandiyohi
12-05-2012, 12:18
They're investigating many other wrecks. That one just gets more coverage - and more investigation I'm sure.

Check out pictures of the wreckage of the Lusitania or the Britannia.

TheExplorer
12-05-2012, 12:21
Simply because it was considered an "unsinkable" ship. Even though there is no such thing. The fact that it was decorated like a royal palace intrigues people as well.

Mrs.Cicero
12-06-2012, 12:46
In hopes of other benefits...

http://news.yahoo.com/filmmaker-cameron-expedition-finds-weird-deep-sea-life-215833028.html

Huaco Kid
12-06-2012, 16:03
There was a second iceberg behind the icy knoll.

tous
12-06-2012, 16:04
There was a second iceberg behind the icy knoll.

:supergrin:

:thumbsup:

TK-421
12-06-2012, 16:16
There was a second iceberg behind the icy knoll.

:animlol:

CanMan
12-07-2012, 11:59
Was Jimmy Hoffa on the Titanic?

byf43
12-07-2012, 13:09
Was Jimmy Hoffa on the Titanic?

I was waiting to see how long it would take, to dig up. . . no. . . wait. . . bring up, Jimmy Hoffa!!!!

okie
12-07-2012, 14:40
What about the Loch Ness monster?

3 fiddy - YouTube
:rofl::rofl:

okie
12-07-2012, 15:39
Titanic is one of my favorite subjects and I love to watch shows about her. I hope they continue doing so:thumbsup:

tous
12-07-2012, 16:12
Titanic is one of my favorite subjects and I love to watch shows about her. I hope they continue doing so:thumbsup:

Yes, but we all know how easy it is to entertain you. Put on an ELO tape and you're good for a whole day.

:supergrin:

:wavey:

okie
12-07-2012, 16:15
Yes, but we all know how easy it is to entertain you. Put on an ELO tape and you're good for a whole day.

:supergrin:

:wavey:

You are so right, Doug:supergrin::rofl:

MrGlock21
12-07-2012, 23:55
..Why do people keep sinking money into the ocean to go "solve the mysteries"?...

Because there is a market to entertain and tickle the human mind which is inquisitive and prying.
I, personally, dont give a ^^^^