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Drjones
12-07-2012, 23:47
Man, I am watching my dreams of a completed AR for Christmas dissipate with each mouse click......not a decent upper in stock ANYWHERE.

Does anyone have a stash they can clue me in on? :dunno: :crying:

ETA: Looking specifically for a completed upper, carbine-length, BCM with a quad-rail. Free float would be ideal. I have had my eye on a couple at MidWest Industries, but they haven't responded to my email, do not answer their phones and all voicemail boxes are full.

Additionally, they recently edited their website to disable online ordering for uppers & say their uppers are "call to check, in-store pick-up only."

bigmoney890
12-08-2012, 00:46
Rainerarms.com
Dsgarms.com


Both have plenty of uppers. Palmettostatearmory.com does as hell but they have a spotty reputation.

larson1122
12-08-2012, 04:24
http://www.bravocompanyusa.com/AR15-Upper-Receiver-Groups-s/1.htm?searching=Y&sort=11&cat=1&show=100&page=1

faawrenchbndr
12-08-2012, 07:44
The end of the world is 12 days away and you do not have an upper?!? :wow:

WoodenPlank
12-08-2012, 07:52
OP, are you looking for a bare upper receiver, or a complete upper receiver group?

Magelk
12-08-2012, 09:06
http://www.bravocompanyusa.com/AR15-Upper-Receiver-Groups-s/1.htm?searching=Y&sort=11&cat=1&show=100&page=1

What he said.


And it will ship lightning fast.

Drjones
12-08-2012, 11:12
OP, are you looking for a bare upper receiver, or a complete upper receiver group?


Sorry it was late when I posted this thread, I modified my OP to clarify.

Drjones
12-08-2012, 11:31
I really had my eye on this one: http://www.midwestindustriesinc.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=category.display&category_ID=1113

But MI doesn't seem to want to sell any to anyone who doesn't physically walk through their doors....

BCM themselves have these listed:
http://www.bravocompanyusa.com/BCM-16-M4-Upper-Receiver-Daniel-Defense-p/bcm-urg-m4%2016%20ddox7.htm

http://www.bravocompanyusa.com/BCM-16-M4-Carbine-Upper-Receiver-Centurion-Arms-p/bcm-urg-m4-16-c4-7.htm

But both are a bit more than the MI in my first link. Are they truly better handguards? Because that's all that's different between them...

I guess at this point I'd be willing to pay a little more to BCM directly in order to actually get something.

What do you guys think?:dunno:

WoodenPlank
12-08-2012, 11:33
The DD OmegaX rail on that first BCM link is one hell of a rail system, IMO.

bmoore
12-08-2012, 11:35
I think you may want to just buy a standard BCM upper and go from there. Shoot it, then find out what you wanna hang on the handguards. Unless you are dead set on a quad rail, then I vote for Daniel Defense.

http://www.bravocompanyusa.com/BCM-M4-16-Upper-Receiver-Group-p/bcm-urg-m4-16.htm


http://www.bravocompanyusa.com/BCM-16-Mid-Length-LIGHT-WEIGHT-Upper-Receiver-p/bcm-urg-mid-16lw.htm

Drjones
12-08-2012, 12:03
I think you may want to just buy a standard BCM upper and go from there. Shoot it, then find out what you wanna hang on the handguards. Unless you are dead set on a quad rail, then I vote for Daniel Defense.

http://www.bravocompanyusa.com/BCM-M4-16-Upper-Receiver-Group-p/bcm-urg-m4-16.htm


http://www.bravocompanyusa.com/BCM-16-Mid-Length-LIGHT-WEIGHT-Upper-Receiver-p/bcm-urg-mid-16lw.htm


I'm positive that I want:

- To mount my SF X300

- Possibly a vertical foregrip (might make my girl more comfortable when shooting, we'll see what she likes)

- At some point, an Aimpoint or EOTECH.

- To not mess with trying to install a FF handguard myself.

The lower is no big deal, but the handguards.....uh-uh....

WoodenPlank
12-08-2012, 12:12
I'm positive that I want:

- To mount my SF X300

- Possibly a vertical foregrip (might make my girl more comfortable when shooting, we'll see what she likes)

- At some point, an Aimpoint or EOTECH.

- To not mess with trying to install a FF handguard myself.

The lower is no big deal, but the handguards.....uh-uh....

Unless you're bound and determined to mount that X300 in front of the front sight (as opposed to at an angle beside/behind it), you can accomplish all of that with a MOE handguard. I put one on my new PSA middy upper, and it's rock solid. Weight isn't bad, either, and it gives me plenty of flexibility to mount extra gear. At the moment, it just has an IWC low-profile QD sling socket (requires drilling the hand guard) and a MOE vertical grip. I'm considering a small rail segment on the front to support my Surefire 600 Scout, though.

bmoore
12-08-2012, 12:12
I'm positive that I want:

- To mount my SF X300

- Possibly a vertical foregrip (might make my girl more comfortable when shooting, we'll see what she likes)

- At some point, an Aimpoint or EOTECH.

- To not mess with trying to install a FF handguard myself.

The lower is no big deal, but the handguards.....uh-uh....


Here you go (this is a lightweight barrel)

http://www.bravocompanyusa.com/BCM-16-Mid-Length-LIGHT-WEIGHT-Upper-Receiver-p/bcm-urg-mid-16lw%20ddl9.htm


Here is an M4 with omega

http://www.bravocompanyusa.com/BCM-16-M4-Upper-Receiver-Daniel-Defense-p/bcm-urg-m4%2016%20ddox7.htm

bmoore
12-08-2012, 12:14
Unless you're bound and determined to mount that X300 in front of the front sight (as opposed to at an angle beside/behind it), you can accomplish all of that with a MOE handguard. I put one on my new PSA middy upper, and it's rock solid. Weight isn't bad, either, and it gives me plenty of flexibility to mount extra gear. At the moment, it just has an IWC low-profile QD sling socket (requires drilling the hand guard) and a MOE vertical grip. I'm considering a small rail segment on the front to support my Surefire 600 Scout, though.

+1 to this. MOE guards can put most of your basic needs on, light, sling mounts and vert grip.

Drjones
12-08-2012, 12:16
The DD OmegaX rail on that first BCM link is one hell of a rail system, IMO.


Yeah but how is it functionally different than the Centurion or Midwest Industries, and how is it better in a way to justify being over $100 more than the upper with Midwest handguards?

I'm totally OK with paying for quality, hence my decision to go with BCM, but I also think there's a point where you see diminishing returns.....

WoodenPlank
12-08-2012, 12:17
Here you go (this is a lightweight barrel)

http://www.bravocompanyusa.com/BCM-16-Mid-Length-LIGHT-WEIGHT-Upper-Receiver-p/bcm-urg-mid-16lw%20ddl9.htm

That's not a bad option, either, considering it's a $519 upper with a $300 (at BCM pricing) rail already installed. $20 off of Bravo's pricing for the two seperately, and BCM does the install job for you.

bmoore
12-08-2012, 12:20
That's not a bad option, either, considering it's a $519 upper with a $300 (at BCM pricing) rail already installed. $20 off of Bravo's pricing for the two seperately, and BCM does the install job for you.

That one would be my choice.:cool:

WoodenPlank
12-08-2012, 12:21
Yeah but how is it functionally different than the Centurion or Midwest Industries, and how is it better in a way to justify being over $100 more than the upper with Midwest handguards?

I'm totally OK with paying for quality, hence my decision to go with BCM, but I also think there's a point where you see diminishing returns.....

In my experience, the DD rails are the strongest rails for the weight I have tried. I have the DD Mk. 18 RIS II (upgraded, 2-piece Lite Rail, basically) rail on my SBR, and I can't make that rail flex if I try - yet it weighs barely more than the Troy/VTAC 9" tube I replaced with it (when you account for barrel nut weight and the rail segments for the VTAC). The DD rail was significantly more expensive, but it's a much better design, IMO.

The DD is .5" longer, is a full quad rail(as opposed to using bolt-on segments), and still weighs about the same as a slick 9" rail - that's pretty damn impressive.

Drjones
12-08-2012, 12:33
Thanks for the clarification, WoodenPlank. :)


So what are your thoughts on this unit here:
http://www.bravocompanyusa.com/BCM-16-M4-Upper-Receiver-Daniel-Defense-p/bcm-urg-m4%2016%20ddox7.htm


Thanks for the suggestion on the MOE....I'm embarrassed to admit this because I know function should come over form with defensive guns, but...I just hate the way they look.

I like the look of the quad-rail, in addition to the functionality of being able to mount whatever I want directly to it without buying additional parts like you do with the MOE. :embarassed:

bmoore
12-08-2012, 12:42
So what are your thoughts on this unit here:
http://www.bravocompanyusa.com/BCM-16-M4-Upper-Receiver-Daniel-Defense-p/bcm-urg-m4%2016%20ddox7.htm



:

:thumbsup:

WoodenPlank
12-08-2012, 12:42
Thanks for the clarification, WoodenPlank. :)


So what are your thoughts on this unit here:
http://www.bravocompanyusa.com/BCM-16-M4-Upper-Receiver-Daniel-Defense-p/bcm-urg-m4%2016%20ddox7.htm


Thanks for the suggestion on the MOE....I'm embarrassed to admit this because I know function should come over form with defensive guns, but...I just hate the way they look.

I like the look of the quad-rail, in addition to the functionality of being able to mount whatever I want directly to it without buying additional parts like you do with the MOE. :embarassed:

Personally, I'd spend the $80 extra to get the 16" mid-length with the DD Lite rail, or get the same setup without the lightweight barrel. 2" longer rail system, slightly better gas system, longer sight radius for irons. It will weight slightly more, though.

As for the MOE handguards, there are lots of items out there now designed to interface directly with the slots on the MOE handguard. The MOE vertical grip is a great example. Impact Weapons Components (IWC) makes a whole slew of accessories that bolt directly to the MOE handguard - everything from sling mounts to light mounts, plus a few other handy items. Plus, a set of MOE mid-length hand-guards ia about one tenth the price of a DD rail. :whistling:

Drjones
12-08-2012, 12:50
At some point I may get a mid-length, but again I just really like the looks of the M4 profile barrel and additionally, I'm trying to save weight to make my girl more comfortable with it too.

I think the sight radius is really a non-issue for the distances we'll be shooting (100yds and under and home defense).

Thanks for the info on the MOE, I'll look more closely at them too....

WoodenPlank
12-08-2012, 12:54
At some point I may get a mid-length, but again I just really like the looks of the M4 profile barrel and additionally, I'm trying to save weight to make my girl more comfortable with it too.

I think the sight radius is really a non-issue for the distances we'll be shooting (100yds and under and home defense).

Thanks for the info on the MOE, I'll look more closely at them too....

In all honesty, the weight difference between the lightweight middy with the Lite rail and the carbine with OmegaX is pretty minimal. However, getting you hand an extra 2" farther out on the handguard can help a LOT with the balance and percieved weight of the carbine.

Either one will server you well, but I am quickly coming to prefer the middy.

Matthew Courtney
12-08-2012, 13:13
I am glad that I am not the only one that does not like the look of the MOE handguard, but I do not like the look of the M4 barrel, either. The M4 barrel is also heavier that a lightweight barrel with no purpose for the weight.

I must agree with Plank about the extra 2 inches of hand guard that the middy gives you. Those 2 inches give you better leverage, and if you have long arms they help you extend you arm to a point that is more naturally comfortable. If you can extend your weak arm enough that it is positioned similarly to a weaver pistol stance, you are in a position to control the rifle as if it is an extension of your will. It does not get any better than that for CQB.

WoodenPlank
12-08-2012, 13:18
I am glad that I am not the only one that does not like the look of the MOE handguard, but I do not like the look of the M4 barrel, either. The M4 barrel is also heavier that a lightweight barrel with no purpose for the weight.

I must agree with Plank about the extra 2 inches of hand guard that the middy gives you. Those 2 inches give you better leverage, and if you have long arms they help you extend you arm to a point that is more naturally comfortable. If you can extend your weak arm enough that it is positioned similarly to a weaver pistol stance, you are in a position to control the rifle as if it is an extension of your will. It does not get any better than that for CQB.

I'm not a huge fan of the MOE handguard's looks, but it doesn't annoy me either. I do appreciate the similicity of it, though, and how well it works for being as inexpensive as it is.

Drjones
12-08-2012, 13:33
Do you guys think $719 is a reasonable price for this, keeping in mind that I still have to spring for the BCG & Charging handle?

http://www.bravocompanyusa.com/BCM-16-M4-Upper-Receiver-Daniel-Defense-p/bcm-urg-m4%2016%20ddox7.htm

I'm thinking about just doing it as I'm tired of trying to chase Midwest Industries...

mjkeat
12-08-2012, 14:00
If you don't need a rail get their non railed upper and throw a MOE HG on it.

WoodenPlank
12-08-2012, 14:18
Do you guys think $719 is a reasonable price for this, keeping in mind that I still have to spring for the BCG & Charging handle?

http://www.bravocompanyusa.com/BCM-16-M4-Upper-Receiver-Daniel-Defense-p/bcm-urg-m4%2016%20ddox7.htm

I'm thinking about just doing it as I'm tired of trying to chase Midwest Industries...

It's a $450-500 upper with a $270 rail already on it. If it's what you want, then it's worth it. In the end, that decision comes down to you, though.

collim1
12-10-2012, 08:57
Buddy of mine doing a build ran into the same problem. He called Stag and they had uppers in stock. He ordered it direct from Stag on Friday, expecting it any day now.

cowboy1964
12-10-2012, 09:05
Do you guys think $719 is a reasonable price for this, keeping in mind that I still have to spring for the BCG & Charging handle?


$719 is a pretty expensive upper. I suppose if you REALLY want that rail and don't want to mess with installing it yourself...

mjkeat
12-10-2012, 09:37
The upper is $439 the cheapest I could find the rail was $254. That's $693. They want $719 for both, assembled by professionals. I say it's a decent price.