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snerd
12-08-2012, 11:17
Not again?!?!

If they fought half as hard to implement policies that would create jobs as they do to compensate those who can't find a job. we would have been out of this recession years ago. (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/12/06/unemployment-extension-fiscal-cliff_n_2249521.html)

Democrats in Congress demanded on Thursday that any upcoming "fiscal cliff" deal include a continuation of federal unemployment insurance, which is set to expire at the end of the year.

http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2012/12/dems_seek_extension_of_unemployment_compensation_in_fiscal_cliff_talks.html

QNman
12-08-2012, 11:55
But if they extend unemployment insurance further, the unemployment numbers will rise (again)...

aircarver
12-08-2012, 15:33
Why not just state it: They want 'unemployment benefits for life' .... :steamed:

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Brucev
12-08-2012, 17:07
The demokrats must extend unemployment insurance. They have to pay for the votes they bought for the recent election.

rj1939
12-08-2012, 18:32
I wondered how long it would take for this subject to become the "crisis of the day".

czsmithGT
12-08-2012, 18:53
Doesn't anyone in Washington understand that a multitude of people getting unemployment benefits won't even look for a job (they would pretend to look for one) until their benefits are about up. 26 weeks and out would put a lot more people to work doing something besides watching TV all day. But Pelosi says unemployment benefits stimulate the economy (or was that food stamps).

cowboy1964
12-08-2012, 19:09
Let them extend it to forever. We can get the collapse over and done with that much sooner.

cheapshot
12-09-2012, 06:06
Let them extend it to forever. We can get the collapse over and done with that much sooner.Yep. Might as well just get it over with.

MLM
12-09-2012, 08:15
Was reading in today's paper that extending the current level of long-term unemployment benefits another year would add 300,000 jobs to the economy.

QNman
12-09-2012, 08:16
Was reading in today's paper that extending the current level of long-term unemployment benefits another year would add 300,000 jobs to the economy.

:rofl:

Sounds like the NY Times. An article by Nancy Pelosi.

jeanderson
12-09-2012, 09:36
There are help wanted signs up all over the country. A big reason these jobs go unfilled is because of the extension of unemployment benefits.

Look at the chart below. This shows the number of people transitioning from unemployment to work or self-support. It is from Denmark. In 1998 (red line), unemployment benefits ran for 5 years and (big surprise) most people found work right around the time benefits ran out. The green line show the same data for 2005, when the law was changed to limit unemployment to 4 years. And again, most found work right around the time unemployment ran out.


http://i1246.photobucket.com/albums/gg614/photobug410/denmark-unemployment.jpg

Is anyone really surprised by this? Congress has extended unemployment benefits to 99 weeks and never before have their been so many long-term unemployed. Just a coincidence, right?

Cavalry Doc
12-09-2012, 09:59
http://www.merckmanuals.com/media/home/figures/PED_umbilical%20cord.gif

Next, job is actively searched for, if not found.

When you pay people to do nothing, don't be surprised if they do nothing.

snerd
12-09-2012, 10:42
The helping hand up turned into a handout that encourages sloth and apathy. Party on, dudes!

series1811
12-10-2012, 07:24
Let them extend it to forever. We can get the collapse over and done with that much sooner.

QE 25 and a million dollars for everybody. What a party we will have.

aircarver
12-10-2012, 08:04
QE 25 and a million dollars for everybody. What a party we will have.

... But the cake will cost $2 million then ... :frown:

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series1811
12-10-2012, 09:19
... But the cake will cost $2 million then ... :frown:

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Oh, snap. You've just found the one small flaw in an otherwise perfect plan. :supergrin:

If only the liberals got that.

Fear Night
12-10-2012, 09:47
But if they extend unemployment insurance further, the unemployment numbers will rise (again)...
Your avatar describes perfectly how I feel about this situation.

kirgi08
12-10-2012, 09:56
Why,it's a walk away.Take care of you and yours.Folks I'm gonna postulate,If you can't secure your family for 2+ yrs your gonna have situations and circumstances that are mind boggling.'08.

QNman
12-10-2012, 10:31
Your avatar describes perfectly how I feel about this situation.

Thanks. It's a self portrait.

podwich
12-10-2012, 19:10
Gosh! I can't imagine how much employees are paying (through their employers) for all this insurance!

What? They're not? So how's it insurance then?

Welfare. Government cheese (err filet mignon).

pugman
12-11-2012, 06:07
There are help wanted signs up all over the country. A big reason these jobs go unfilled is because of the extension of unemployment benefits.

Look at the chart below. This shows the number of people transitioning from unemployment to work or self-support. It is from Denmark. In 1998 (red line), unemployment benefits ran for 5 years and (big surprise) most people found work right around the time benefits ran out. The green line show the same data for 2005, when the law was changed to limit unemployment to 4 years. And again, most found work right around the time unemployment ran out.

Is anyone really surprised by this? Congress has extended unemployment benefits to 99 weeks and never before have their been so many long-term unemployed. Just a coincidence, right?

Ironically, I believe Ohio was the 1st state where the 99 weeks of unemployment benefits was going to expire.

Remember, the security guards many offices had for several months as people rolled off the benefits - they were anticipating violence

and in a survey posted several weeks after these first waves were coming off...fully 1/3 were gainfully employed full time within a week...a week.

The type of person who will take unemployment for 99 weeks are the same ones who in the unions were on "call back" for in some cases 15 or more years.

Remember the UAW's job pool where if you were laid off, but a job came up, you didn't have to take it...yet you still get paid?

Atlas
12-11-2012, 06:32
Why should anyone be surprised?

For 60 years or so we have subsidized non-work, non-productivity.
Do that long enough and many begin to see it as "normal".

Get government the hell out of the marketplace, period.
Get government out of employment, out of the contract between worker and employer.
No more minimum wage, no more unemployment insurance, no more Socialist inSecurity.

All these things are effect though, not cause.
Cause is allowing the government to stray from the letter and intent of Article 1, Section 10 of the Constitution.

But then, we've moved on beyond the Constitution now, haven't we?

Enjoy your socialist oligarchy while it lasts...
You asked for it; you asked the DNC when they were in the driver's seat, you asked the GOP when they were in power.
Now, you got it!

snerd
12-11-2012, 09:38
........ Get government the hell out of the marketplace, period. Get government out of employment, out of the contract between worker and employer. No more minimum wage, no more unemployment insurance, no more Socialist inSecurity.....
Never gonna happen voluntarily. It most likely will not happen violently. So that leaves just a slow collapse, like the last gasps of a dying man. A shame.......... she was a beauty in her prime.