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plouffedaddy
12-08-2012, 15:45
Looks like Colt wants to compete with the Sport...


1 in 8 twist
FF rail
Match trigger

MSRP of $899 (street price should be under $800...)


Link (http://www.lipseys.com/itemdetail.aspx?itemno=COLE6900&mfg=Colt&family=AR-15+Rifle+Series)

ddbtoth
12-08-2012, 15:53
Amazing what happens when you lose a big old government contract, isn't it?

3RASER
12-08-2012, 16:04
How did they lose a contract?

ddbtoth
12-08-2012, 16:06
How did they lose a contract?

Apparently FN was doing a good job.

3RASER
12-08-2012, 16:10
I just googled it. Remington is providing M4s as well it would appear.

The Pirate
12-08-2012, 16:14
Any pics of it yet?


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3RASER
12-08-2012, 16:49
Any pics of it yet?


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I couldn't find any.

Beanie-Bean
12-08-2012, 17:04
Nice...I may have to add this one to my list. Thanks for the info.

glock031
12-08-2012, 17:50
I just googled it. Remington is providing M4s as well it would appear.

Remmington hasn't provided any M4's. The contract that Remmington won has been disputed. It will be re-bid. IF Remmington does win the re-bid they still have to pay Colt royalties for Colt's Intellectual property known as the TDP for M4's.

faawrenchbndr
12-08-2012, 17:53
The beginning of the end for Colt.........

mjkeat
12-08-2012, 18:04
I just don't see Remington doing as good as Colt has done. In fact I wouldn't be surprised if Remington produced M4's of equal quality to the rest of the ARs Freedom Group produces.

I think Colt is making great business moves in the civilian market. Something I've wanted to see for a long time. Maybe soon we'll be able to purchase a 692?, a midlength version of their 6920 w/ pinned low profile gas block.

cesaros
12-08-2012, 18:07
we have several brand spankin new M4's here...all Colt.

Did this loss of Govt contract just happen?

faawrenchbndr
12-08-2012, 18:08
As long as Colt stays always from the no frills models they will
do very well.

scrunt
12-08-2012, 18:29
Remmington hasn't provided any M4's. The contract that Remmington won has been disputed. It will be re-bid. IF Remmington does win the re-bid they still have to pay Colt royalties for Colt's Intellectual property known as the TDP for M4's.

No one has to pay Colt anything for M4's, all rights to the M4 are owned by the US Army and they can award the contract/contracts to as many manufactures as they wish.

Take a look here (http://www.armytimes.com/news/2009/07/army_carbine_070609w/)

glock031
12-08-2012, 19:17
No one has to pay Colt anything for M4's, all rights to the M4 are owned by the US Army and they can award the contract/contracts to as many manufactures as they wish.

Take a look here (http://www.armytimes.com/news/2009/07/army_carbine_070609w/)

Believe what you will. Many incorrect writeups on the internet about this subject. Colt lost sole source status but that 2009 writeup is incorrect as to the TDP.

It's pretty common knowledge that Colt owns the TDP. Any other manufacture that wins the bid for M4's will have to pay Colt thier due royalties.

Those LE6900's may be a custom order. Colt will do custom orders for a thousand or more. That's how the Colt 6720 came about.

Pasted from your link......

LIGHT CARBINE 5.56MM 16" 30+1

Lipsey's Item No:COLE6900
UPC No:098289019707
MFG Model No:LE6900
Family:AR-15 Rifle Series
Model:Light Carbine
Type:Rifle
Action:Semi-Auto
Caliber:223 Rem | 5.56 NATO
Capacity:20+1
# of Magazines:1
Mag Description:30 rd. Magpul Pmag
Rate-of-Twist:1-in-8"
Finish:Matte Black
Stock:Collapsible / Folding Stock
Stock Description:Six Position Collapsible
Barrel Length:16.1
"Weight (empty):6 lbs.
Additional Info:Full Floated Barrel
Additional Info:Single Stage Match Trigger
Additional Info:Aluminum Hand Guard

ithaca_deerslayer
12-08-2012, 19:41
Are they mil spec? If they drop that maybe they can sell AR's for $400.

Warp
12-08-2012, 20:05
Believe what you will. Many incorrect writeups on the internet about this subject. Colt lost sole source status but that 2009 writeup is incorrect as to the TDP.

It's pretty common knowledge that Colt owns the TDP. Any other manufacture that wins the bid for M4's will have to pay Colt thier due royalties.

Those LE6900's may be a custom order. Colt will do custom orders for a thousand or more. That's how the Colt 6720 came about.


Exactly.

LL6
12-09-2012, 09:12
This Oct article from Military.com may explain some of the background about Colt and the contract.
http://www.military.com/daily-news/2012/10/18/colt-again-blocks-armys-advanced-m4-plans.html?ESRC=army-a.nl

fuzzy03cls
12-10-2012, 08:16
The beginning of the end for Colt.........
:rofl:

M&P15T
12-10-2012, 08:45
Being objective about it, Colt knows that Military demand for their product is going to drop of rapidly, in the near future. So, they're gonna start focusing on civilian sales until the next conflict kicks off.

glock031
12-10-2012, 08:59
Being objective about it, Colt knows that Military demand for their product is going to drop of rapidly, in the near future. So, they're gonna start focusing on civilian sales until the next conflict kicks off.

Makes sense with the wars winding down.

fnfalman
12-10-2012, 10:21
Are they mil spec? If they drop that maybe they can sell AR's for $400.

Since that they don't have a full-auto trigger group, I'd dare say that they aren't "mil-spec".

As a matter of fact, I'd dare say that the Colts civilians can buy aren't "mil-spec" unless one can show me that they can own a Colt identical to what issued to a GI.

Some of the parts maybe mil-spec. Hell, most of the parts maybe mil-spec, but it ain't all mil-spec.

fnfalman
12-10-2012, 10:26
Looks like Colt wants to compete with the Sport...


1 in 8 twist
FF rail
Match trigger

MSRP of $899 (street price should be under $800...)


Link (http://www.lipseys.com/itemdetail.aspx?itemno=COLE6900&mfg=Colt&family=AR-15+Rifle+Series)

Sounds like a distributor's special. However, Colt would be smart to make a no frille version and sell a whole boatload of them the way Smith&Wesson sells the M&P Sport.

plouffedaddy
12-10-2012, 10:50
Sounds like a distributor's special. However, Colt would be smart to make a no frille version and sell a whole boatload of them the way Smith&Wesson sells the M&P Sport.


Agreed. The Colt name still holds a lot of value in the AR community but a lot of shooters just aren't willing to dish out that kind of cash for a 6920 or other similarly priced model.

fnfalman
12-10-2012, 11:03
Agreed. The Colt name still holds a lot of value in the AR community but a lot of shooters just aren't willing to dish out that kind of cash for a 6920 or other similarly priced model.

Not everybody wants a fancy handguard or fancy buttstock or fancy grip or fancy rails or fancy whatever.

Those that do can buy the pricier model.

Hell, bring back the old SP-1 receivers and sell it cheap.

TedG
12-10-2012, 12:04
I think it's great!

If Colt sells the 6900 for $700-$900, they will take back a lot of the market. In turn, the other makers will lower their prices to compete. This is all good for the consumer.... you and me.

TedG
12-10-2012, 12:06
The beginning of the end for Colt.........

I believe it is going to be quite the opposite.

This will be the beginning of the end for many of the small insignificant AR makers. Survival of the fittest. Natural selection.

Colt will reign.