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faawrenchbndr
12-10-2012, 10:30
The new Marine rail gun will NOT be hand fit.
Seems kinda cheesey for a pistol of that price.



Discuss.......:popcorn:

Three-Five-Seven
12-10-2012, 10:37
CNC is available today. It's the 21st century. Tolerances can be achieved with machines today that could only be achieved by hand 50 years ago.

FGC will still be "hand" fitted.

glock2740
12-10-2012, 10:46
The video on Addicts posted by John, from Colt's Custom Shop (I think with the manager, IIRC) said that the actual one's going to the Marine's would not be hand fitted, but that the one's sold to civilians would be hand fitted in the Custom Shop and would also come with a 1" test target (he didn't say at how many yards, but I would assume it's at 25 yards). He also said they would come with an Otis cleaning kit and be shipped out in a Pelican case. No price was mentioned, but on several posts and threads. it is speculated to be in the 2K range. I guess part of the cost being so high is due to the Otis cleaning kit and the Pelican case. :rofl:

Here's the link for the video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=InYPnIgzbdE

SPIN2010
12-10-2012, 11:04
CNC is available today. It's the 21st century. Tolerances can be achieved with machines today that could only be achieved by hand 50 years ago.

This is a good point. Sadly, only if the company keeps the tooling maintained, QC checking, and actually following a runoff on each CNC machine tool used.

I have had more than my share of "CNC'd" pistols that should have been hand fitted. I will bet a few other people on here have as well. :whistling:

faawrenchbndr
12-10-2012, 11:04
$2k+ for a assembled line pistol.........what a rip off!

alwaysshootin
12-10-2012, 11:12
$2k+ for a assembled line pistol.........what a rip off!

Yes, but it's what the marines use! :rofl: :rofl:

matt_lowry123
12-10-2012, 11:33
$2k+ for a assembled line pistol.........what a rip off!


I'm with you!! I'd rather just spend a little more and get something better.

hooligan74
12-10-2012, 12:04
Agreed, disappointing for a gun at that pricepoint.

fnfalman
12-10-2012, 12:48
$2k+ for a assembled line pistol.........what a rip off!

But it has cool paint job, cool grips and cool name.:faint:

Batesmotel
12-10-2012, 12:52
That is the contract price. Learn about Gvt contracting. That price will include support. Not just the end sale.

At one time we had a Gvt contract for some very special battery packs. We quoted the shelf price and the contract price. Contract price was much higher but included guaranteed support that shelf price did not.

faawrenchbndr
12-10-2012, 12:56
I understand the contract price includes service.
Still seems a bit high for a production gun.

bac1023
12-10-2012, 12:58
$2k+ for a assembled line pistol.........what a rip off!

No doubt

You're spending $500 just for the name alone.

Goldendog Redux
12-10-2012, 13:00
I can't tell from the video what, if any treatment the front strap has...Why does Colt have such an aversion to checkered front straps?

No way I would buy that thing over a TRP and I like Colt. I also do not like a diarrhea colored pistol

MD357
12-10-2012, 13:28
$2k+ for a assembled line pistol.........what a rip off!

Kimber will be jealous.

glock2740
12-10-2012, 13:42
Why does Colt have such an aversion to checkered front straps?

Because Colt only builds base 1911's. Plus, it lets the gun owner select what they want done to the front strap, when they send it off to be built. Leave the checkering/golfballing/stippling, etc., to someone who knows what they're doing.

:rofl:

faawrenchbndr
12-10-2012, 14:58
Kimber will be jealous.

I think I would rather have the Desert Warrior over the Colt.

MD357
12-10-2012, 22:25
I think I would rather have the Desert Warrior over the Colt.

I wouldn't..... but that's just me. I've been shopping for a new railed 1911 and the Colt Rail guns I've been picking up lately have been pretty darn tight. These guns are supposedly hand fit, but I won't be paying $2K for one, IF that's what they cost?

bac1023
12-10-2012, 22:52
Kimber will be jealous.

:rofl:

faawrenchbndr
12-11-2012, 05:26
I wouldn't..... but that's just me. I've been shopping for a new railed 1911 and the Colt Rail guns I've been picking up lately have been pretty darn tight. These guns are supposedly hand fit, but I won't be paying $2K for one, IF that's what they cost?

I really have nano solid plans do for a railed 1911.

tango44
12-11-2012, 06:56
No matter what, a $2K pistol does not make any sense at all!

MD357
12-11-2012, 07:18
I really have nano solid plans do for a railed 1911.

Que???

MD357
12-11-2012, 07:26
No matter what, a $2K pistol does not make any sense at all!

Only to the lesser informed maybe. :supergrin:

faawrenchbndr
12-11-2012, 08:03
Que???

Dang auto-correct.......no solid plans for a railed 1911.
Have you gotten hands on a Double Star?

xx78
12-11-2012, 13:06
I want one.

fnfalman
12-11-2012, 14:20
Now I'm confused. Is the actual Marines pistol non-hand fitted or the commercial version non-hand fitted?

I've always thought that the Marines version will not receive hand fitting while the commercial version will.

faawrenchbndr
12-11-2012, 15:16
Marine pistol will NOT be hand fitted......nothing but the best for
our Military! :faint:

MD357
12-11-2012, 22:38
Dang auto-correct.......no solid plans for a railed 1911.
Have you gotten hands on a Double Star?

The one I handled lately did NOT impress, when they first came out, the ones I saw were pretty nice. Waiting on a local shop to get a DW Specialist in.

MD357
12-11-2012, 22:40
Marine pistol will NOT be hand fitted......nothing but the best for
our Military! :faint:

That's the way they wanted it.... apparently they wanted "modularity".... so I'm told.

m2hmghb
12-11-2012, 23:02
Marine pistol will NOT be hand fitted......nothing but the best for
our Military! :faint:

They wanted parts commonality to reduce the workload on armorers. Remember the old MEU-SOC pistols were all hand fitted by armorers, the quality showed but that was a lot of time and effort that could have been spent on other things. I'd wager with the budget cuts coming they were trying to reduce costs as much as possible, that same armorer could be rebarreling an M16A4 for instance.

glock2740
12-12-2012, 05:43
Waiting on a local shop to get a DW Specialist in.
I bet those are gonna be NICE. :cool:

spcwes
12-12-2012, 07:52
No matter what, a $2K pistol does not make any sense at all!

Kind of with you on this statement. I can buy 2 pistols, holsters, ammo and still have money left over for $2k and they will do anything I need them to do.

For the record I still like 1911s but meh, what is this gun gonna bring to the table that a TRP won't? The name?

BrazosCoTX
12-16-2012, 18:04
I have a basic Colt Rail Gun. If I put some Gunner's Grips on it, throw some night sights on it, and and a MSH with a lanyard loop, will I have pretty much the same gun as the ones the USMC is getting (aside from the finish -- I like the black Ceracote min came with)?

glock2740
12-16-2012, 18:21
For the record I still like 1911s but meh, what is this gun gonna bring to the table that a TRP won't? The name?
Don't forget front strap checkering. :cool:

Ruggles
12-16-2012, 19:03
No matter what, a $2K pistol does not make any sense at all!

Did you just kick me in the jewels or poke me in the eye, I am not sure :rofl:

faawrenchbndr
12-16-2012, 19:59
No matter what, a $2K pistol does not make any sense at all!

Naw,........living in Miami does not make any sense at all! :tongueout:

RetailNinja
12-17-2012, 14:22
The roll mark is enough to make me urp. I would gladly buy a desert warrior and mc operator before dropping coin on this. I tried bringing up the lack of checkering on another board and was beaten back with an internet stick. I love TALO's Wiley Clapps. I don't know why colt won't blend the features of their XSE with that.

ca survivor
12-18-2012, 15:47
$2k+ for a assembled line pistol.........what a rip off!
but it comes in a Pelican case, not a cardboard box :rofl:

fnfalman
12-18-2012, 16:04
but it comes in a Pelican case, not a cardboard box :rofl:

And Marine Special Ops Operators will be using them too.