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KY Moose
12-12-2012, 03:36
http://www.freedomworks.org/blog/jborowski/speaker-boehner-removing-fiscal-conservatives-from

And one more reason their party will go the route of the Whig Party.



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cowboywannabe
12-12-2012, 03:41
physical or fiscal?

Smacktard
12-12-2012, 04:32
physical or fiscal?


Both :rofl:


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TangoFoxtrot
12-12-2012, 04:35
http://www.freedomworks.org/blog/jborowski/speaker-boehner-removing-fiscal-conservatives-from

And one more reason their party will go the route of the Whig Party.



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Boehner needs more prozac!

hogfish
12-12-2012, 04:41
http://www.freedomworks.org/blog/jborowski/speaker-boehner-removing-fiscal-conservatives-from

And one more reason their party will go the route of the Whig Party.



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Because the physical cliff is looming. :tongueout:

KY Moose
12-12-2012, 04:45
physical or fiscal?

Haha. Sorry, I didn't have my coffee at that time.


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The Machinist
12-12-2012, 05:30
Call Speaker Boehner (https://secure.freedomworks.org/site/Advocacy?alertId=563&pg=makeACall) and tell him to restore these genuine fiscal conservatives to their respective committees.
I found this part to be most amusing. Surely, the author knows she's just asking us to engage in a fruitless waste of our time.

barbedwiresmile
12-12-2012, 08:08
Call Speaker Boehner and tell him to restore these genuine fiscal conservatives to their respective committees.


Genuine fiscal conservatives. Lmao.

Atlas
12-12-2012, 08:27
Genuine fiscal conservatives. Lmao.

Yeah, it would be funny, if... :crying:

evlbruce
12-12-2012, 14:21
He's preparing to compromise. Which means finding a happy middle ground between the liberal Republicans and progressive Democrats.

Ruble Noon
12-12-2012, 14:59
He's probably afraid that one of the physical conservatives will get physical with him.

aspartz
12-12-2012, 21:06
Once again the GOP is selling out the true tea party folks. It's time for the party to split into the party of God and the party of smaller government.

ARS

janice6
12-12-2012, 21:10
Can't you just feel it slipping in.

GAFinch
12-13-2012, 09:15
Once again the GOP is selling out the true tea party folks. It's time for the party to split into the party of God and the party of smaller government.

ARS

Hate to burst your bubble of bigotry but many of the Tea Party folks are also very religious. Intergenerational justice and subsidiarity (smaller fed gov) have their roots in Judeo-Christian philosophy. The Tea Party movement wasn't designed to secularize the GOP but to scrutinize people's fiscal views, which are easier and more important to verify than someone's religious claims.

aspartz
12-13-2012, 10:54
Hate to burst your bubble of bigotry but many of the Tea Party folks are also very religious. Intergenerational justice and subsidiarity (smaller fed gov) have their roots in Judeo-Christian philosophy. The Tea Party movement wasn't designed to secularize the GOP but to scrutinize people's fiscal views, which are easier and more important to verify than someone's religious claims.

Actually, the tea party WAS formed to secularize the party. Only much later did the like of Bachmann and Perry claim to be the leaders of the movement.

DOMA is not smaller government. You cannot say you favor smaller less intrusive government out of one side of your mouth, while the other side says you want the government to enforce your selected moral code.

ARS

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hogfish
12-13-2012, 12:59
Hate to burst your bubble of bigotry but many of the Tea Party folks are also very religious. Intergenerational justice and subsidiarity (smaller fed gov) have their roots in Judeo-Christian philosophy. The Tea Party movement wasn't designed to secularize the GOP but to scrutinize people's fiscal views, which are easier and more important to verify than someone's religious claims.

Yeah, I heard that dude being interviewed yesterday, too. :yawn:

lostone1413
12-13-2012, 13:45
He's preparing to compromise. Which means finding a happy middle ground between the liberal Republicans and progressive Democrats.

That is 100% correct. Bone Head is no way t he Conservative that the liberal media including Fox News wants you to believe he is!
Look when he first got the job head of the house They had Ron Paul in line for a job that would let him question the Feds just a little bit Bone Head did everything he could to block Paul from getting the appointment.
Watching the Domocraps and the Repubcraps is no different then watching WWE Wrestling. The election was close because you really have very little difference between Husama and Romney

lostone1413
12-13-2012, 13:49
Once again the GOP is selling out the true tea party folks. It's time for the party to split into the party of God and the party of smaller government.

ARS

Very true what you said. The thing is when the Tea Party took off in 08 it was really a spin off of the Ron Paul Revolution. Soon when you heard anything about the Tea Party even on Fox News the name Ron Paul never came up. The old guard Repubcraps for the most part had killed the true party

GAFinch
12-13-2012, 15:40
Actually, the tea party WAS formed to secularize the party. Only much later did the like of Bachmann and Perry claim to be the leaders of the movement.

Maybe the idea was started by libertarians, but the bulk of Tea Party-minded voters are either religious or don't object to religious morals. Tea Party politicians, including Rand, pushed a pro-life bill in the House and Senate this year. Militant atheist conservatives make up a fraction of a percent of this country.

DOMA is not smaller government. You cannot say you favor smaller less intrusive government out of one side of your mouth, while the other side says you want the government to enforce your selected moral code.

When gay "marriage" is implemented somewhere, religious institutions get increasingly marginalized and eventually shut down rather than violate their principles. The services then get replaced by government-run ones which cost more and increase the size of government. This will get worse when the abortion mandate goes into effect. These socially progressive ideas aren't about fairness, they're about nationalizing adoption and foster care agencies, schools, hospitals, clinics, soup kitchens, etc. and about breaking down the family unit in order to make people more dependent on government.

Kablam
12-13-2012, 16:25
Actually, the tea party WAS formed to secularize the party. Only much later did the like of Bachmann and Perry claim to be the leaders of the movement.

DOMA is not smaller government. You cannot say you favor smaller less intrusive government out of one side of your mouth, while the other side says you want the government to enforce your selected moral code.

ARS

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You're full of crap. That is NOT why the tea party spun up, and you know it. Please, just because YOU hate religion and faith so much, doesn't mean that anything good HAS to be completely secular. Why do some let their ideological zeal obscure fact and pragmatism?

aspartz
12-13-2012, 16:34
You're full of crap. That is NOT why the tea party spun up, and you know it. Please, just because YOU hate religion and faith so much, doesn't mean that anything good HAS to be completely secular. Why do some let their ideological zeal obscure fact and pragmatism?
Me thinks the lady dost protest too much.

ARS

aspartz
12-13-2012, 16:49
Maybe the idea was started by libertarians, but the bulk of Tea Party-minded voters are either religious or don't object to religious morals.
The late entrants to the tea party (like Bachmann and Perry) are indeed from the religious faction of the GOP. The early members were trying to distance themselves from the compassionate conservatives and neo-cons.
Tea Party politicians, including Rand, pushed a pro-life bill in the House and Senate this year. Militant atheist conservatives make up a fraction of a percent of this country.In your opinion, what then differentiates the tea party from the neo-cons of GWB?



When gay "marriage" is implemented somewhere, religious institutions get increasingly marginalized and eventually shut down rather than violate their principles. Does the government force them to shut down or are their services no longer desired by the population? The government did not protect the buggy whip industry, nor should they set policy to support the church from a changing marketplace.
The services then get replaced by government-run ones which cost more and increase the size of government.Services which the real tea party would oppose.
This will get worse when the abortion mandate goes into effect.Abortion mandate? If you mean a mandate the abortion be a covered service, the tea party position (the smaller government position) is that the government has no authority to decree what is covered by a provate insurance contract.
These socially progressive ideas aren't about fairness, they're about nationalizing adoption and foster care agencies, schools, hospitals, clinics, soup kitchens, etc. and about breaking down the family unit in order to make people more dependent on government.Incorrect, they are about freedom. If government was kept small none of these would be nationalized, instead community organizations would be responsible. They my be secular organizations, but it would still be non-governmental money.

ARS

Kablam
12-13-2012, 17:01
Me thinks the lady dost protest too much.

ARS

Meaning what?

hogfish
12-13-2012, 17:27
You're full of crap. That is NOT why the tea party spun up, and you know it. Please, just because YOU hate religion and faith so much, doesn't mean that anything good HAS to be completely secular. Why do some let their ideological zeal obscure fact and pragmatism?

Why did they call themselves "The Tea Party"? :dunno:

Kablam
12-13-2012, 20:03
To secularize the GOP? Sorry, I don't see the connection.

aspartz
12-14-2012, 05:42
To secularize the GOP? Sorry, I don't see the connection.
Lets go back to the GOP before the Southern Strategy. Back when most of the college educated people in the country were Republicans.

ARS

Cavalry Doc
12-14-2012, 06:52
Once again the GOP is selling out the true tea party folks. It's time for the party to split into the party of God and the party of smaller government.

ARS

You're mixing issues again. How you find a way to link everything to religious beliefs other than your own is amusing, but it's killing your credibility. One trick pony.

aspartz
12-14-2012, 07:03
You're mixing issues again. How you find a way to link everything to religious beliefs other than your own is amusing, but it's killing your credibility. One trick pony.
This is not mixing issues. The GOP has an identity problem. On hand wants smaller government, while the other wants to grow the government to protect the people's morals from themselves. These goals are diametrically opposed to each other. In the recent election the latter hand pushed the believers in the former totally out of the tent.

You are free to be as religious as you wish, that is your right. All I ask is that you respect others and allow them the same. Growing the government to enforce your morals hurts the party.

ARS