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Kentguy
12-12-2012, 06:58
Electronic Powder Scales... I currently use an RCBS 10-10 balance beam scale, however I was always wondering if these scales were worth the money they charge for them? How accurate and how long will one of these last? Let's say you had the money to spend on one of these babies, which one would you get? and why?

RCBS ChargeMaster 1500 Powder Scale and Dispenser Combo 110 Volt

http://www.midwayusa.com/product/772151/rcbs-chargemaster-1500-powder-scale-and-dispenser-combo-110-volt

Lyman 1200 DPS 3 Digital Powder System
http://www.lymanproducts.com/lyman/scales-measures/1200-DPS.php

Hornady Lock-N-LoadŽ Auto Charge™ Powder Dispenser
http://www.hornady.com/store/Lock-N-Load-Auto-Charge-powder-dispenser/

PACT High Speed Digital Precision Powder Dispenser and Scale 110 Volt
http://www.midwayusa.com/product/574898/pact-high-speed-digital-precision-powder-dispenser-and-scale-110-volt

SmartReloader Isd Reloading Powder Scale Dispenser

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I tossed this in just for the heck of it... Digital Powder Dispensers
Electronic Powder Measure Comparison Test

http://www.6mmbr.com/powderdispensers01.html

SARDG
12-12-2012, 07:55
I have that RCBS and really like it. It responds quickly and has always been accurate when checked with check weights. The trickler is great for working up loads. You can find it a lot cheaper than Midway though, and there is a rebate on RCBS until the the end of the year I think.

The manual is available online so you can read about it. You can buy the scale and trickler separately, but that ends up costing more.

F106 Fan
12-12-2012, 08:08
I bought the Chargemaster Combo a couple of months ago and it seems to work very well.

I use the CM specifically for rifle reloading and it's nice that I can have the CM trickling the next charge while I deal with seating the bullet over the previous charge. The next charge is usually ready by the time I get another primed case in the press.

I also have the Dillon D-Terminator and it seems to be very accurate. I've had it for more than a year and it doesn't seem like there are going to be any issues.

When I load rifle, I trickle the charge with the CM and then verify it with the D-Terminator before dumping the powder in the case.

I wouldn't use any scale without verifying the accuracy with check weights. Not calibration weights, check weights.

http://www.midwayusa.com/find?userSearchQuery=check+weights

Richard

ron59
12-12-2012, 08:23
I hated my Dillon beam scale.

I know everybody says you have to spend big money to get a quality digital scale, but I took Brian Enos' advice and bought this one:
http://www.uniquetek.com/site/696296/product/GT1250

$65. I've had it two years and it works great. I bought a set of check weights and verify accuracy everytime I use it.... dead on.

Here's where Brian discusses it, he sells the same one for $10 more:
http://www.brianenos.com/store/be.scale_be.html

I'll never use a beam scale again, and if this one crapped out I would think about just getting another. Either that or the Dillon one that is $130 or so.

Kentguy
12-12-2012, 08:32
This Dillon scale?

http://www.dillonprecision.com/content/p/9/pid/25213/catid/7/D_Terminator_Electronic_Scale

Boxerglocker
12-12-2012, 08:53
Digital scales are well worth the cost over a balance beam. I have a Dillon E-terminator as my primary bulk loading scale that I started reloading with and then back in August got the Hornady Auto-Charge for my precision rifle loads.
I paid $191 delivered from Graf's.

Here is the thread http://www.glocktalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1438629

And my actual scale in action:
http://youtu.be/N2Tpvvg-IDg

ron59
12-12-2012, 11:09
This Dillon scale?

http://www.dillonprecision.com/content/p/9/pid/25213/catid/7/D_Terminator_Electronic_Scale

Yep, that one.

Hoser
12-12-2012, 11:59
For checking things, you cant beat a beam scale.

If you want a reading in a hurry, then a digital scale is an easy option.

If your criteria is weighing something under 1/10th of a grain, get a beam scale or a very expensive digital scale.

I have one of the RCBS dispenser combos and it works just fine for short range rifle ammo. Past 600 yards at small targets little stuff matters.

Colorado4Wheel
12-12-2012, 12:57
Beam scales are cool. They are all mechanical and old school looking. You just don't get the same nostalgia from a Electric scale. I like to look cool and part of that process is having a complicated looking scale for a newbie to look at. When they leave I do have a digital that I hide under my hat.

Fwdftw
12-12-2012, 13:05
I hated my Dillon beam scale.

I know everybody says you have to spend big money to get a quality digital scale, but I took Brian Enos' advice and bought this one:
http://www.uniquetek.com/site/696296/product/GT1250

$65. I've had it two years and it works great. I bought a set of check weights and verify accuracy everytime I use it.... dead on.

Here's where Brian discusses it, he sells the same one for $10 more:
http://www.brianenos.com/store/be.scale_be.html

I'll never use a beam scale again, and if this one crapped out I would think about just getting another. Either that or the Dillon one that is $130 or so.


Ive always heard you want a digital scale that has A/C Power ?

Kentguy
12-12-2012, 13:23
Colorado4Wheel...I like to look cool and part of that process is having a complicated looking scale for a newbie to look at. When they leave I do have a digital that I hide under my hat. :cool: That's just too much! :rofl:

Fwdftw..."Ive always heard you want a digital scale that has A/C Power ?"

All I can say is I wouldn't consider buying one of these if it were battery driven... you'd go broke trying to keep it up and running.

I have always had a balance beam scale and although it is outstanding, the scale it'self is not my real concern. I like the powder dispenser feature of these units.

Those of you who have one, do you find that they are spot on accurate with the charge amount given? All the time? Or is this another "close enough is good enough" situation?

Chime in and let me know.

Thanks

fredj338
12-12-2012, 13:26
The RCBS & Hornady seem to run well. I love my Dillon, always works, always accurate. Just stay away form the cheap stuff, it will fail you.

Colorado4Wheel
12-12-2012, 13:46
I have one of these
http://www.oldwillknottscales.com/assets/images/jscale/js-vg-closed.jpg

http://www.oldwillknottscales.com/jennings-jscale-jsvg40.html

I don't use it for weight powder very often. I use it for weighting bullets. I would trust it with powder but I am opposed to using two scales for powder. I have always used my Dillon Beam for powder and see no reason to change.

The electric is battery operated. They last fine and I have a lot of rechargables for it anyway. It is about .05gr off of my Dillon and my Check weights. You can see it struggling with the 5 gr. It wants to call it 4.9 or 5. My home made 5 gr check weight is just a smidge heavier and it reads the same on both. I have a home made 5gr that I use with out tweezers. The good ones stay in the bag most the time. .05 grs is of zero consequence in the end.

ron59
12-13-2012, 11:43
Colorado4Wheel...I like to look cool and part of that process is having a complicated looking scale for a newbie to look at. When they leave I do have a digital that I hide under my hat. :cool: That's just too much! :rofl:

Fwdftw..."Ive always heard you want a digital scale that has A/C Power ?"

All I can say is I wouldn't consider buying one of these if it were battery driven... you'd go broke trying to keep it up and running.



Kent and Ftdftw:

I don't weigh every powder throw, by any means. I don't even double-check at each session. The Dillon powder measure is VERY consistent.

I might get it out once a month or so. It's possible that the batteries get weak and not weighing correctly, that's why I use the check weights first. I throw 10 charges just to make sure the powder is settled and such (same thing I do before starting a loading session), then have the case containing powder I want to weigh.

I power up the unit, let it sit for a few minutes, touching it every so often (it will self power off within a minute or two) to let it get warmed up good. I then hit the ZERO button, weigh the check weights.... then pour the powder in from the case. Since I started using my current recipe (147gr molys with 3.1gr TG) last fall... I haven't had to touch my powder measure whatsoever... still throwing exactly what it was.

Even for the short period of time I need it when I did change recipes, it doesn't go through batteries quickly.

fredj338
12-13-2012, 13:08
The scale won't eat batteries if you turn it off. The issue is the scale may start to drift if the power level changes. So an ac direct has some advantages but alos disadvantages as it may also cause issues, depending on what else is on the circut. By quality, either way, it will likely work. By crap either way, it will fail sooner than later.

Colorado4Wheel
12-13-2012, 13:35
The scale won't eat batteries if you turn it off. The issue is the scale may start to drift if the power level changes. So an ac direct has some advantages but alos disadvantages as it may also cause issues, depending on what else is on the circut. By quality, either way, it will likely work. By crap either way, it will fail sooner than later.


My scale (which is very similar to his) has a battery check feature that tells you if the battery is low.

SCmasterblaster
12-13-2012, 13:39
I'd go with the Lyman scale.

Kentguy
12-14-2012, 09:08
Have you ever read this article?

http://www.accurateshooter.com/technical-articles/reloading/ten-commandments-for-electronic-scales/